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Quote from: ATMD on January 04, 2019, 04:22:57 PM

Quote from: Astargath on January 04, 2019, 03:48:00 PM

Quote from: ATMD on January 04, 2019, 03:02:53 PM

If the evidence for evolution is so clear, this debate would have ended a long time ago.

It has never been scientifically proven that we came from single-celled organisms, and to use the atheist's favorite phrase:

"I won't believe anything until there is evidence" Grin

Well, among scientists there is no debate whether evolution is real or not so...

Scientists like Stephen Meyer, the director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture (CSC) for example?

Stephen Meyer >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6xRGtJHC1E.

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Quote from: Astargath on January 04, 2019, 03:48:00 PM

Quote from: ATMD on January 04, 2019, 03:02:53 PM

If the evidence for evolution is so clear, this debate would have ended a long time ago.

It has never been scientifically proven that we came from single-celled organisms, and to use the atheist's favorite phrase:

"I won't believe anything until there is evidence" Grin

Well, among scientists there is no debate whether evolution is real or not so...

Scientists like Stephen Meyer, the director of the Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture (CSC) for example?

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Quote from: Astargath on January 04, 2019, 03:48:00 PM

Quote from: ATMD on January 04, 2019, 03:02:53 PM

If the evidence for evolution is so clear, this debate would have ended a long time ago.

It has never been scientifically proven that we came from single-celled organisms, and to use the atheist's favorite phrase:

"I won't believe anything until there is evidence" Grin

Well, among scientists there is no debate whether evolution is real or not so...

Not all scientists, or even a majority of them, believe evolution. But for those who believe in evolution, too bad for them. However, there are probably way more who are protecting their job by admitting to evolution rather than what they really believe.

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Quote from: ATMD on January 04, 2019, 03:02:53 PM

If the evidence for evolution is so clear, this debate would have ended a long time ago.

It has never been scientifically proven that we came from single-celled organisms, and to use the atheist's favorite phrase:

"I won't believe anything until there is evidence" Grin

Well, among scientists there is no debate whether evolution is real or not so...

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If the evidence for evolution is so clear, this debate would have ended a long time ago.

It has never been scientifically proven that we came from single-celled organisms, and to use the atheist's favorite phrase:

"I won't believe anything until there is evidence" Grin

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 04, 2019, 11:43:41 AM

And evolution being a process that takes thousands of generations in most cases no one have ever seen it on humans with his bear eyes...

Since evolution takes thousands of years, and we have only had reliable DNA testing for a few decades, there is no way to ever prove that it was evolution that turned one creature into another. Why not? Because without DNA testing over all those thousands of years, we don't know that the two creatures didn't always exist, right from the beginning.

Evolutionists know this. That's why they suggest that evolution had to take thousands or hundreds of thousands of years. That way it is difficult to prove that evolution is wrong. So, we can't prove that evolution is wrong or right.

But the point of this topic is that evolution is a hoax. Since people are saying that evolution exists, yet they don't have proof, they are hoaxing other people.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 04, 2019, 11:41:26 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 04, 2019, 11:06:02 AM

Now you are talking about evolution theory evolution. Cool

I'm just using YOUR source to explain why you're wwrong on considering macroevolution is a thing.

You still haven't defined evolution or adaptation but still claim they're different and one is acceptable but not the other...

I'm not right or wrong about macroevolution. I was simply being kind, and showing you what it is.

I have spoken about evolution theory evolution (ETE) all over the place. Since it doesn't exist, you define it if you want it defined. ETE doesn't exist. Because of this, when knowledgeable people say it does, they are hoaxing other people.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 04, 2019, 11:43:41 AM

Quote from: michaelkelly8798 on January 04, 2019, 11:38:18 AM

You don't need to have a concept for macro evolution, you don't need to be so smart to read this between the lines, I'm talking about your believe human evolves from monkeys. I'm not talking about adaptation (to make it easier for you to understand) like grown a callus. I mean how have you observed a human growing hair like an animal to adapt to cold environments or something similar?

A human wouldn't grow hair to adapt to cold environment... That wouldn't be possible what are you even talking about?
And evolution being a process that takes thousands of generations in most cases no one have ever seen it on humans with his bear eyes...

For the monkeys part that's also completely false. Humans didn't evolve from monkeys I don't know in which school you went but you're clearly lacking some HUGE part of the scientific biological knowledge.

I know its impossible, I'm just trying to understand how far you can go with this of evolution. How can you tell this happens every x amount of years, have you lived that long? If you haven't lived that long, and this is a phenomenon that can't be observed it can't even be called science, you need to experiment and make observations in order to prove a hypothesis right. I just want to know why you are so certain this is true?

There seem to be different types of evolutionist based on what I can read from your message. I've been hearing men and primate have similar bone structures, arms, chromosomes and a whole lot more fallacies. I'd like to see how good your biological knowledge is, what did man evolve from? what's your side of the story?

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Quote from: michaelkelly8798 on January 04, 2019, 11:38:18 AM

You don't need to have a concept for macro evolution, you don't need to be so smart to read this between the lines, I'm talking about your believe human evolves from monkeys. I'm not talking about adaptation (to make it easier for you to understand) like grown a callus. I mean how have you observed a human growing hair like an animal to adapt to cold environments or something similar?

A human wouldn't grow hair to adapt to cold environment... That wouldn't be possible what are you even talking about?
And evolution being a process that takes thousands of generations in most cases no one have ever seen it on humans with his bear eyes...

For the monkeys part that's also completely false. Humans didn't evolve from monkeys I don't know in which school you went but you're clearly lacking some HUGE part of the scientific biological knowledge.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 04, 2019, 11:06:02 AM

Now you are talking about evolution theory evolution. Cool

I'm just using YOUR source to explain why you're wwrong on considering macroevolution is a thing.

You still haven't defined evolution or adaptation but still claim they're different and one is acceptable but not the other...

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 04, 2019, 10:49:52 AM

Quote from: michaelkelly8798 on January 04, 2019, 10:39:07 AM

There's no macro evolution. So my question to you is.. Why are you so certain macro-evolution exists??

My answer to you is: there is nothing like macro evolution and no scientist defends something as macro evolution I don't even know what you mean by macro evolution.

Until you define what you mean by the term macro evolution I can't help you because for me macro evolution isn't a scientific concept.

You don't need to have a concept for macro evolution, you don't need to be so smart to read this between the lines, I'm talking about your believe human evolves from monkeys. I'm not talking about adaptation (to make it easier for you to understand) like grown a callus. I mean how have you observed a human growing hair like an animal to adapt to cold environments or something similar?

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 04, 2019, 11:00:22 AM

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Macroevolution:

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroevolution

Macroevolution is evolution on a scale at or above the level of species, in contrast with microevolution, which refers to smaller evolutionary changes of allele frequencies within a species or population.

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The term macroevolution fell into a certain disfavour when it was taken over by writers such as the paleontologist Otto Schindewolf to describe their theories of orthogenesis.

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Within the modern synthesis of the early 20th century, macroevolution is thought of as the compounded effects of microevolution.[9] Thus, the distinction between micro- and macroevolution is not a fundamental one – the only difference between them is of time and scale.

Macroevolution isn't a scientific concept, it's just a word to make discussions easier to distinguish big or small time scale.

Macro evolution = micro evolution multiple times = evolution

Now you are talking about evolution theory evolution. Cool

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Quote from: BADecker on January 04, 2019, 10:55:58 AM

Macroevolution:

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroevolution

Macroevolution is evolution on a scale at or above the level of species, in contrast with microevolution, which refers to smaller evolutionary changes of allele frequencies within a species or population.

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The term macroevolution fell into a certain disfavour when it was taken over by writers such as the paleontologist Otto Schindewolf to describe their theories of orthogenesis.

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Within the modern synthesis of the early 20th century, macroevolution is thought of as the compounded effects of microevolution.[9] Thus, the distinction between micro- and macroevolution is not a fundamental one – the only difference between them is of time and scale.

Macroevolution isn't a scientific concept, it's just a word to make discussions easier to distinguish big or small time scale.

Macro evolution = micro evolution multiple times = evolution

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 04, 2019, 10:49:52 AM

Quote from: michaelkelly8798 on January 04, 2019, 10:39:07 AM

There's no macro evolution. So my question to you is.. Why are you so certain macro-evolution exists??

My answer to you is: there is nothing like macro evolution and no scientist defends something as macro evolution I don't even know what you mean by macro evolution.

Until you define what you mean by the term macro evolution I can't help you because for me macro evolution isn't a scientific concept.

Macroevolution:

Quote from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroevolution

Macroevolution is evolution on a scale at or above the level of species, in contrast with microevolution, which refers to smaller evolutionary changes of allele frequencies within a species or population.

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Quote from: michaelkelly8798 on January 04, 2019, 10:39:07 AM

There's no macro evolution. So my question to you is.. Why are you so certain macro-evolution exists??

My answer to you is: there is nothing like macro evolution and no scientist defends something as macro evolution I don't even know what you mean by macro evolution.

Until you define what you mean by the term macro evolution I can't help you because for me macro evolution isn't a scientific concept.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 04, 2019, 10:35:48 AM

Quote from: mOgliE on January 04, 2019, 10:25:18 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 04, 2019, 10:22:57 AM

Look. All you need to do is show one instance of proof that evolution theory evolution exists. If you don't or can't show the proof, you are only making yourself look foolish, right?

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Peppered moth is the most known.

Before industrial revolution the moth was white. After the industrial revolution, the moth became brown, if that's not evolution then what is it?

That's simply a form of adaptation without evolution. At best regarding evolution, it might be a form of devolution.

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You don't make any sense. A whole species saw a gene being replace by another gene. If that's not the definition of evolution then stop fooling around and give a proper definition of evolution.

Cambridge definition of evolution:
the way in which living things change and develop over millions of years

This example fits perfectly the Cambridge definition. If you have a definition on your own bring it here or stop talking in the void.

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 04, 2019, 09:59:37 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 04, 2019, 09:51:53 AM

Simply, adaptation is programmed - DNA programming - rules for change, so that the adapting creature can fit environment changes.

Evolution is the change from one kind of creature to another.

Cause and effect show that everything in the universe is programmed, including the way we think. Since we have been programmed to think one way or another, there absolutely can't be any evolution without changing the definition of evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Ok you're dumb and put on ignore. Cheers.

You seem be be a guy that is well versed in the field. Adaptation and evolution are very similar, species evolve to adapt to the environment that's totally accurate, we grow calluses as an example. BUT.. There's no macro evolution. So my question to you is.. Why are you so certain macro-evolution exists?? Since you are the science guy and this theory of evolution hasn't been tested to be truth yet why do you have so much certainty??

Please do a google search on the many scientific theories that were falsified. And then respond to my question.

From my point of view you're argument is similar to "frogs are born from mud" (which also was also a theory before a guy named Louis Pasteur said, this is not true, we have observed and reproduced the event. this is false, we can prove it with this experiment (which was then reproduced by other scientists)). Now tell me how have you observed macro evolution?

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 04, 2019, 10:25:18 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 04, 2019, 10:22:57 AM

Look. All you need to do is show one instance of proof that evolution theory evolution exists. If you don't or can't show the proof, you are only making yourself look foolish, right?

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Peppered moth is the most known.

Before industrial revolution the moth was white. After the industrial revolution, the moth became brown, if that's not evolution then what is it?

That's simply a form of adaptation without evolution. At best regarding evolution, it might be a form of devolution.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 04, 2019, 10:22:57 AM

Look. All you need to do is show one instance of proof that evolution theory evolution exists. If you don't or can't show the proof, you are only making yourself look foolish, right?

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Peppered moth is the most known.

Before industrial revolution the moth was white. After the industrial revolution, the moth became brown, if that's not evolution then what is it?

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Quote from: mOgliE on January 04, 2019, 09:59:37 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 04, 2019, 09:51:53 AM

Simply, adaptation is programmed - DNA programming - rules for change, so that the adapting creature can fit environment changes.

Evolution is the change from one kind of creature to another.

Cause and effect show that everything in the universe is programmed, including the way we think. Since we have been programmed to think one way or another, there absolutely can't be any evolution without changing the definition of evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

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Ok you're dumb and put on ignore. Cheers.

Look. All you need to do is show one instance of proof that evolution theory evolution exists. If you don't or can't show the proof, you are only making yourself look foolish, right?

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