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July 26, 2018, 02:14:26 PM
What are you on about BADecker? You point me to an article about ID and origin of life, primarly, Which i actually says has Lots of good points, and is overall a very good article - and you accuse me of trying to discredit it!! Do me the courtesy of Reading before you answer. Thank you.

Its not me Who has come up with a theory for ID, you pointed me to ID, remember! You dont belive in evolution, fair  Enough. But just because evolution is not true acording to you, does not make ID true default. It does not work that Way, cant be one thing, must be the other. Just because i cant Walk on water does not make it imposdible for all others. One just needs to figure out that you need to frezz it, then you Can. Its called lack of knowlage.

You fiercely resist evolution, yet accept ID! A consept with zero proof What so ever. How come? Where did your need for 100% proof go Here?

Now it is you who didn't read the article. The article wasn't about ID even though it had some talk about ID in it.

The article is about how evolution doesn't have any solid proof behind it. It is about that most of evolution is just talk so that lay people have faith in evolution. It has to do with the fact that when scientific evolutionists get right down to the science of evolution, they realize that there is essentially nothing there, and that evolution should be banned as a scientific theory.

The article only talks about ID because ID is just about the only alternative to evolution that we can come up with. Since evolution has not even one shred of proof, but only has a bunch of talk that there is proof, the whole idea of evolution falls into the same class as religion. But ID is evident all around us.

Did you miss the part about the author himself:
(For what it is worth, I am myself a complete agnostic. Faith and atheism both seem to me categorical beliefs in something one doesn’t know. ID certainly provides no support for the existence of a loving Sunday School god, given that in almost all places and all times most people have lived in misery and died in agony.)

Then he goes on to say:
To me, though, things look designed. By what, I don’t know.


The whole idea of evolution has to do with random mutations. Random mutations are as far from design as you can get. But our experience of design - people making machines - takes things that don't have so much order in them, and make it into more order. It's called design. Random mutation is disorder, not more order. Random mutation is not design, but the opposite of design.

Everything operates in an orderly fashion. The complexity of order in the universe is extremely great. So, the order is great. The ID is great. That's just the opposite of random mutation. Somebody talked you into believing that randomness and mutation have to do with intelligent design, because the universe is orderly, like it was designed. You have a backwards, self-contradictory religion going for yourself in evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

''The whole idea of evolution has to do with random mutations'' Another classic lie by badecker.

''Evolution is not a random process. The genetic variation on which natural selection acts may occur randomly, but natural selection itself is not random at all. The survival and reproductive success of an individual is directly related to the ways its inherited traits function in the context of its local environment. Whether or not an individual survives and reproduces depends on whether it has genes that produce traits that are well adapted to its environment. ''


Yet, many websites and books talk about the random mutations of evolution. You can find some of them if you Google "evolution random mutation."

If the evolution process doesn't work by random mutations, then it is guided - which it is by cause and effect - by someone or something that is thousands of times smarter than our smartest scientists or groups of scientists. How can evolution be smarter than scientists? Scientists have yet to figure out how to create their first life from scratch. But, something made nature to have life on Earth in countless forms and countless numbers of procreations.

We don't have a hint of a method that describes this process in evolution theory. Basically all evolution theory says is that it happened. It would be a lot easier and more accurate to say that there is an All-knowing and All-powerful Creator that designed and made all of nature, than to think that evolution in any form we can come up with, could make nature.

Evolution is a hoax. And thank you for helping to show this.

Cool

Any website about anything might have the words random in it, we use it all the time. Poker is random, a lot of luck is involved, wouldn't you say? Science hasn't proved that everything is guided or has a cause.
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July 26, 2018, 11:35:17 AM
What are you on about BADecker? You point me to an article about ID and origin of life, primarly, Which i actually says has Lots of good points, and is overall a very good article - and you accuse me of trying to discredit it!! Do me the courtesy of Reading before you answer. Thank you.

Its not me Who has come up with a theory for ID, you pointed me to ID, remember! You dont belive in evolution, fair  Enough. But just because evolution is not true acording to you, does not make ID true default. It does not work that Way, cant be one thing, must be the other. Just because i cant Walk on water does not make it imposdible for all others. One just needs to figure out that you need to frezz it, then you Can. Its called lack of knowlage.

You fiercely resist evolution, yet accept ID! A consept with zero proof What so ever. How come? Where did your need for 100% proof go Here?

Now it is you who didn't read the article. The article wasn't about ID even though it had some talk about ID in it.

The article is about how evolution doesn't have any solid proof behind it. It is about that most of evolution is just talk so that lay people have faith in evolution. It has to do with the fact that when scientific evolutionists get right down to the science of evolution, they realize that there is essentially nothing there, and that evolution should be banned as a scientific theory.

The article only talks about ID because ID is just about the only alternative to evolution that we can come up with. Since evolution has not even one shred of proof, but only has a bunch of talk that there is proof, the whole idea of evolution falls into the same class as religion. But ID is evident all around us.

Did you miss the part about the author himself:
(For what it is worth, I am myself a complete agnostic. Faith and atheism both seem to me categorical beliefs in something one doesn’t know. ID certainly provides no support for the existence of a loving Sunday School god, given that in almost all places and all times most people have lived in misery and died in agony.)

Then he goes on to say:
To me, though, things look designed. By what, I don’t know.


The whole idea of evolution has to do with random mutations. Random mutations are as far from design as you can get. But our experience of design - people making machines - takes things that don't have so much order in them, and make it into more order. It's called design. Random mutation is disorder, not more order. Random mutation is not design, but the opposite of design.

Everything operates in an orderly fashion. The complexity of order in the universe is extremely great. So, the order is great. The ID is great. That's just the opposite of random mutation. Somebody talked you into believing that randomness and mutation have to do with intelligent design, because the universe is orderly, like it was designed. You have a backwards, self-contradictory religion going for yourself in evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

''The whole idea of evolution has to do with random mutations'' Another classic lie by badecker.

''Evolution is not a random process. The genetic variation on which natural selection acts may occur randomly, but natural selection itself is not random at all. The survival and reproductive success of an individual is directly related to the ways its inherited traits function in the context of its local environment. Whether or not an individual survives and reproduces depends on whether it has genes that produce traits that are well adapted to its environment. ''


Yet, many websites and books talk about the random mutations of evolution. You can find some of them if you Google "evolution random mutation."

If the evolution process doesn't work by random mutations, then it is guided - which it is by cause and effect - by someone or something that is thousands of times smarter than our smartest scientists or groups of scientists. How can evolution be smarter than scientists? Scientists have yet to figure out how to create their first life from scratch. But, something made nature to have life on Earth in countless forms and countless numbers of procreations.

We don't have a hint of a method that describes this process in evolution theory. Basically all evolution theory says is that it happened. It would be a lot easier and more accurate to say that there is an All-knowing and All-powerful Creator that designed and made all of nature, than to think that evolution in any form we can come up with, could make nature.

Evolution is a hoax. And thank you for helping to show this.

Cool
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July 26, 2018, 10:32:41 AM
What are you on about BADecker? You point me to an article about ID and origin of life, primarly, Which i actually says has Lots of good points, and is overall a very good article - and you accuse me of trying to discredit it!! Do me the courtesy of Reading before you answer. Thank you.

Its not me Who has come up with a theory for ID, you pointed me to ID, remember! You dont belive in evolution, fair  Enough. But just because evolution is not true acording to you, does not make ID true default. It does not work that Way, cant be one thing, must be the other. Just because i cant Walk on water does not make it imposdible for all others. One just needs to figure out that you need to frezz it, then you Can. Its called lack of knowlage.

You fiercely resist evolution, yet accept ID! A consept with zero proof What so ever. How come? Where did your need for 100% proof go Here?

Now it is you who didn't read the article. The article wasn't about ID even though it had some talk about ID in it.

The article is about how evolution doesn't have any solid proof behind it. It is about that most of evolution is just talk so that lay people have faith in evolution. It has to do with the fact that when scientific evolutionists get right down to the science of evolution, they realize that there is essentially nothing there, and that evolution should be banned as a scientific theory.

The article only talks about ID because ID is just about the only alternative to evolution that we can come up with. Since evolution has not even one shred of proof, but only has a bunch of talk that there is proof, the whole idea of evolution falls into the same class as religion. But ID is evident all around us.

Did you miss the part about the author himself:
(For what it is worth, I am myself a complete agnostic. Faith and atheism both seem to me categorical beliefs in something one doesn’t know. ID certainly provides no support for the existence of a loving Sunday School god, given that in almost all places and all times most people have lived in misery and died in agony.)

Then he goes on to say:
To me, though, things look designed. By what, I don’t know.


The whole idea of evolution has to do with random mutations. Random mutations are as far from design as you can get. But our experience of design - people making machines - takes things that don't have so much order in them, and make it into more order. It's called design. Random mutation is disorder, not more order. Random mutation is not design, but the opposite of design.

Everything operates in an orderly fashion. The complexity of order in the universe is extremely great. So, the order is great. The ID is great. That's just the opposite of random mutation. Somebody talked you into believing that randomness and mutation have to do with intelligent design, because the universe is orderly, like it was designed. You have a backwards, self-contradictory religion going for yourself in evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

''The whole idea of evolution has to do with random mutations'' Another classic lie by badecker.

''Evolution is not a random process. The genetic variation on which natural selection acts may occur randomly, but natural selection itself is not random at all. The survival and reproductive success of an individual is directly related to the ways its inherited traits function in the context of its local environment. Whether or not an individual survives and reproduces depends on whether it has genes that produce traits that are well adapted to its environment. ''
legendary
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July 26, 2018, 08:03:42 AM
What are you on about BADecker? You point me to an article about ID and origin of life, primarly, Which i actually says has Lots of good points, and is overall a very good article - and you accuse me of trying to discredit it!! Do me the courtesy of Reading before you answer. Thank you.

Its not me Who has come up with a theory for ID, you pointed me to ID, remember! You dont belive in evolution, fair  Enough. But just because evolution is not true acording to you, does not make ID true default. It does not work that Way, cant be one thing, must be the other. Just because i cant Walk on water does not make it imposdible for all others. One just needs to figure out that you need to frezz it, then you Can. Its called lack of knowlage.

You fiercely resist evolution, yet accept ID! A consept with zero proof What so ever. How come? Where did your need for 100% proof go Here?

Now it is you who didn't read the article. The article wasn't about ID even though it had some talk about ID in it.

The article is about how evolution doesn't have any solid proof behind it. It is about that most of evolution is just talk so that lay people have faith in evolution. It has to do with the fact that when scientific evolutionists get right down to the science of evolution, they realize that there is essentially nothing there, and that evolution should be banned as a scientific theory.

The article only talks about ID because ID is just about the only alternative to evolution that we can come up with. Since evolution has not even one shred of proof, but only has a bunch of talk that there is proof, the whole idea of evolution falls into the same class as religion. But ID is evident all around us.

Did you miss the part about the author himself:
(For what it is worth, I am myself a complete agnostic. Faith and atheism both seem to me categorical beliefs in something one doesn’t know. ID certainly provides no support for the existence of a loving Sunday School god, given that in almost all places and all times most people have lived in misery and died in agony.)

Then he goes on to say:
To me, though, things look designed. By what, I don’t know.


The whole idea of evolution has to do with random mutations. Random mutations are as far from design as you can get. But our experience of design - people making machines - takes things that don't have so much order in them, and make it into more order. It's called design. Random mutation is disorder, not more order. Random mutation is not design, but the opposite of design.

Everything operates in an orderly fashion. The complexity of order in the universe is extremely great. So, the order is great. The ID is great. That's just the opposite of random mutation. Somebody talked you into believing that randomness and mutation have to do with intelligent design, because the universe is orderly, like it was designed. You have a backwards, self-contradictory religion going for yourself in evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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July 26, 2018, 12:45:38 AM
What are you on about BADecker? You point me to an article about ID and origin of life, primarly, Which i actually says has Lots of good points, and is overall a very good article - and you accuse me of trying to discredit it!! Do me the courtesy of Reading before you answer. Thank you.

Its not me Who has come up with a theory for ID, you pointed me to ID, remember! You dont belive in evolution, fair  Enough. But just because evolution is not true acording to you, does not make ID true default. It does not work that Way, cant be one thing, must be the other. Just because i cant Walk on water does not make it imposdible for all others. One just needs to figure out that you need to frezz it, then you Can. Its called lack of knowlage.

You fiercely resist evolution, yet accept ID! A consept with zero proof What so ever. How come? Where did your need for 100% proof go Here?
legendary
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July 25, 2018, 11:37:58 AM

LOL!

You can't conflate 6,000 years old text with modern day science. I ask you; with all those examples you gave me - could they have done those 2000-6000 years ago when the text was written?

About conflation, science has done the conflation within itself without 6,000-y-o texts, already.

For example. It is common knowledge that if you pass a direct current through water, the water separates into hydrogen and oxygen. This is a fact. It is a solid fact that works every time. On the other hand, science theory is not fact, just as regular theory is not fact. The way that science makes science theory into a fact, is to say that it is factual that science theory is NOT fact.

So, the Theory of Evolution is fact in the sense that the Theory factually exists, just like all the other science theories. But, evolution itself is not known to be fact. How do we know? Because science tells us that it is factually a science theory.

Since we have no known-to-be factual evidence of evolution, evolution remains a theory. Yes, evolution is factually a science theory. But no, evolution is not known to be factual in itself.


Back in the early 1800s, there were court cases in the United States and the States. Nobody is alive who can explain any of those court cases to us from first hand observing of them being set in place. We find out about them from written record.

The interesting thing about those court cases is, we might think we understand them just by reading them, but English from the early 1800s was different than it was today. It takes a lot of study to figure out what a witness in one of those court cases really meant by what he said. But, the point is that the witnesses were still eye-witnesses, and are to be believed based on their sincerity in observation.

The Bible is eye witness accounts, just like science is. So, there is a form of conflation between the two. The similarity is that the Bible is written as fact. If it is telling a story within its pages, it says that it is just a story. This is just like science. Science is factual observations, except where it says that it is not fact. When does science say it is not fact? In science theory. So, both the Bible and science tell us when they are speaking factually and when they are not.


Evolution theory is said by science to factually be a theory, which means that evolution is factually not a fact. Yet evolution is touted as fact in multitudes of books, and on multitudes of web pages. Since many of the people who say that evolution is a fact, know that it is factually not a fact (aka, science theory), yet they present it as fact...

Evolution is a hoax.

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July 25, 2018, 05:20:13 AM
The fact that nobody has one scientifically factual, proven example of evolution, proves that we don't know that evolution is even possible. Monkeys, just like any other animals, have offspring of the same kind that the parents were, except if you breed them, just like you might breed other kinds of animals.

None of that is evolution in the form of evolution theory evolution. Without even one factual proof, why do people even think that evolution might exist?

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Yup - because talking snakes, men that walk on water, women that literally ascend to a magic place in the sky, and a big skydaddy - is a MUCH better theory?

Please explain your theory. And tell us how it is better than evolution theory.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

EDIT:

Top 10 Animals Who Can Talk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZiBbxjrDRE



These People Are Walking On Water

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-DZ0f0_NCA



WOMEN IN SPACE - NASA's Women Shuttle Astronauts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1v2EyWR6Ic



STEVE HAYES: Tired Old Queen at the Movies - THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1if-Liq8mc


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LOL!

You can't conflate 6,000 years old text with modern day science. I ask you; with all those examples you gave me - could they have done those 2000-6000 years ago when the text was written?
legendary
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July 25, 2018, 04:13:26 AM

Read the article at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/07/fred-reed/signature-in-the-cell-and-intelligent-design/ to understand why evolution is extremely doubtful. Since it is extremely doubtful, promoting evolution as fact turns evolution into a hoax being perpetrated by jokers who know it is not factual, and who know it is extremely doubtful, but talk it up as being factual, anyway.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Very good article. Lots of very good points. Unfortunatly Its about origin of life primary, not evolution. On the origian of life, Well your guess is as good as mine. You Can bring Down the hand of god Or aliens if you like. The article use countless word saying evolution cant be prove, just to replace it with another theory, ID, that has abdolutly no proof What so ever! If it cant be this, it must be that! Narr thats not How it works. Proof of ID Thank you, Or dismiss it. That is What you do to evolution (never mind there is plenty of proof for evolution). Forgot all the scenice along the way?

What a cruel programmer it is! Invent the mosquito, put a bug in it, and have it kill of a billion of my other creations. Hmmm How is that for ID? Maybe it should just be D Smiley

Actually, the article is about evolution way more than it is about abiogenesis. Why? Because, while abiogenesis is a form of evolution in itself, it is a tiny, tiny part of the whole evolution idea. The only reason why evolutionists talk about it at all, is to distract from the point that there isn't any proof for evolution at all.

And that is exactly what you are doing with your post. Distracting from the fact that there is no evolution, and trying to condemn an article that shows how little real suggested evidence there really is for evolution. Then state your own idea of ID, and try to turn the whole thing into religion.

Well, you are kinda right. Evolution is a religion for those who barely understand it. Even though the article doesn't seem to say it directly, it DOES say it indirectly. How?
There are scientists who are not proponents of ID but simply see that much of official Darwinism does not make sense or comport with the evidence.
So, it takes a scientist to see that the evolution idea is messed up.

The point stands, evolution is a hoax, and a religious hoax for average people.

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July 25, 2018, 12:21:15 AM

The EVOLUTION OF BLOCKCHAINS and SMART CONTRACTS ..


Why would they not be able to make connections between calcium objects?
Say in a 100000 years We dig up a cellphone anno 1990 and a smartphone anno 2018, not knowing anything about phones, Why would We ever Think they are related? Dont look anything alike, Can barely communitcate, have very few simarly funktions. What on Earth would make us Think they are related? Just metal, plastic and wires in Common. But the fact is they are related. Its called evolution.
Its not one thing, in the case calcium that makes the proof, Its all the small dots, function, shape, size, materiale, etc. And Its called evolution.


Neither of you is talking evolution theory evolution (ETE), which is the kind of evolution shown in the OP. Rather, you both are using semantics - playing with the language. This shows that evolution doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Consider one of the basics regarding missing link determinations in ETE. The amount of mutation change has to be so small between evolution stages, that you would not be able to tell the difference between directly before and directly after evolved creatures without DNA measurements.

Why does the mutation change have to be this small? Because if it weren't, we would be able to find evolution changes going on right now (if they existed), among all kinds of species all over the place. Yet we haven't found even one that we can prove. That's why ETE promoters theorize that the mutations have to be this tiny. It gives them a chance to suggest that evolution exists, even though they can't prove even one instance.

The whole idea of using skulls dated multiple thousands of years apart, gives ETE a chance. But it most definitely doesn't factually show or prove even one instance of ETE.

Read the article at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/07/fred-reed/signature-in-the-cell-and-intelligent-design/ to understand why evolution is extremely doubtful. Since it is extremely doubtful, promoting evolution as fact turns evolution into a hoax being perpetrated by jokers who know it is not factual, and who know it is extremely doubtful, but talk it up as being factual, anyway.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Very good article. Lots of very good points. Unfortunatly Its about origin of life primary, not evolution. On the origian of life, Well your guess is as good as mine. You Can bring Down the hand of god Or aliens if you like. The article use countless word saying evolution cant be prove, just to replace it with another theory, ID, that has abdolutly no proof What so ever! If it cant be this, it must be that! Narr thats not How it works. Proof of ID Thank you, Or dismiss it. That is What you do to evolution (never mind there is plenty of proof for evolution). Forgot all the scenice along the way?

What a cruel programmer it is! Invent the mosquito, put a bug in it, and have it kill of a billion of my other creations. Hmmm How is that for ID? Maybe it should just be D Smiley
legendary
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July 24, 2018, 08:52:16 PM
The fact that nobody has one scientifically factual, proven example of evolution, proves that we don't know that evolution is even possible. Monkeys, just like any other animals, have offspring of the same kind that the parents were, except if you breed them, just like you might breed other kinds of animals.

None of that is evolution in the form of evolution theory evolution. Without even one factual proof, why do people even think that evolution might exist?

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Yup - because talking snakes, men that walk on water, women that literally ascend to a magic place in the sky, and a big skydaddy - is a MUCH better theory?

Please explain your theory. And tell us how it is better than evolution theory.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

EDIT:

Top 10 Animals Who Can Talk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZiBbxjrDRE



These People Are Walking On Water

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-DZ0f0_NCA



WOMEN IN SPACE - NASA's Women Shuttle Astronauts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1v2EyWR6Ic



STEVE HAYES: Tired Old Queen at the Movies - THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1if-Liq8mc


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July 24, 2018, 05:00:19 PM
The fact that nobody has one scientifically factual, proven example of evolution, proves that we don't know that evolution is even possible. Monkeys, just like any other animals, have offspring of the same kind that the parents were, except if you breed them, just like you might breed other kinds of animals.

None of that is evolution in the form of evolution theory evolution. Without even one factual proof, why do people even think that evolution might exist?

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool

Yup - because talking snakes, men that walk on water, women that literally ascend to a magic place in the sky, and a big skydaddy - is a MUCH better theory?
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July 24, 2018, 01:37:14 PM
Everything develops from simple to complex. However, our brain has huge potential, which we use at 5-7%. The theory of evolution can not explain this.

The brain gets fully used, the 10% thing is a myth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_percent_of_the_brain_myth
legendary
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July 24, 2018, 12:15:52 PM
The fact that nobody has one scientifically factual, proven example of evolution, proves that we don't know that evolution is even possible. Monkeys, just like any other animals, have offspring of the same kind that the parents were, except if you breed them, just like you might breed other kinds of animals.

None of that is evolution in the form of evolution theory evolution. Without even one factual proof, why do people even think that evolution might exist?

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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July 24, 2018, 11:48:12 AM
Have you not noticed that there are so many different kinds of monkeys? It's completely possible that one kind of monkey evolved to be humans and all the others evolved in different ways. There are so any different species in the world and they are all evolving in different ways. I don't know that much about evolution, but I've had it explained to me before. In a way, you can just say that we are one of the types of monkeys. We have just evolved to have bigger brains and walk upright. I'd say we got pretty lucky to come out this way.
legendary
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July 24, 2018, 11:28:45 AM
Nothing develops from simple to complex without programming.

The programmer is more complex than the complex thing he programmed, just to be able to program it.

If a programmer programs something or things to be simple, and then to develop into something complex from that simplicity, he is a very complex programmer.

Entropy, which penetrates everything all around us, is really the conversion of complexity to ever more simplicity.

Cause and effect in everything shows that everything is programmed.

Nothing develops from simple to complex without programming.

Evolution doesn't happen without a programmer making it to happen. Since there is not even one factual evolution happenstance having ever been found, but countless numbers of like-begets-like happening, why do people promote something like evolution? After all, without factual happenstance of it, even one time, how does anyone know it is happening?

Evolution is a hoax.

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July 24, 2018, 07:24:15 AM
Everything develops from simple to complex. However, our brain has huge potential, which we use at 5-7%. The theory of evolution can not explain this.
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July 24, 2018, 03:34:51 AM

The EVOLUTION OF BLOCKCHAINS and SMART CONTRACTS ..


Why would they not be able to make connections between calcium objects?
Say in a 100000 years We dig up a cellphone anno 1990 and a smartphone anno 2018, not knowing anything about phones, Why would We ever Think they are related? Dont look anything alike, Can barely communitcate, have very few simarly funktions. What on Earth would make us Think they are related? Just metal, plastic and wires in Common. But the fact is they are related. Its called evolution.
Its not one thing, in the case calcium that makes the proof, Its all the small dots, function, shape, size, materiale, etc. And Its called evolution.


Neither of you is talking evolution theory evolution (ETE), which is the kind of evolution shown in the OP. Rather, you both are using semantics - playing with the language. This shows that evolution doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Consider one of the basics regarding missing link determinations in ETE. The amount of mutation change has to be so small between evolution stages, that you would not be able to tell the difference between directly before and directly after evolved creatures without DNA measurements.

Why does the mutation change have to be this small? Because if it weren't, we would be able to find evolution changes going on right now (if they existed), among all kinds of species all over the place. Yet we haven't found even one that we can prove. That's why ETE promoters theorize that the mutations have to be this tiny. It gives them a chance to suggest that evolution exists, even though they can't prove even one instance.

The whole idea of using skulls dated multiple thousands of years apart, gives ETE a chance. But it most definitely doesn't factually show or prove even one instance of ETE.

Read the article at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/07/fred-reed/signature-in-the-cell-and-intelligent-design/ to understand why evolution is extremely doubtful. Since it is extremely doubtful, promoting evolution as fact turns evolution into a hoax being perpetrated by jokers who know it is not factual, and who know it is extremely doubtful, but talk it up as being factual, anyway.

Evolution is a hoax.

Cool
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July 24, 2018, 02:00:05 AM
Why would they not be able to make connections between calcium objects?
Say in a 100000 years We dig up a cellphone anno 1990 and a smartphone anno 2018, not knowing anything about phones, Why would We ever Think they are related? Dont look anything alike, Can barely communitcate, have very few simarly funktions. What on Earth would make us Think they are related? Just metal, plastic and wires in Common. But the fact is they are related. Its called evolution.
Its not one thing, in the case calcium that makes the proof, Its all the small dots, function, shape, size, materiale, etc. And Its called evolution.
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July 24, 2018, 01:50:18 AM
Yes, but, forum rules say we are not to start topics that are specifically for defaming people. So, staying on topic...

Evolution is a hoax, and the info in my previous post (along with other stuff) proves it.

Oh so it was you that snitched on me Cheesy..I suppose you told Jesus too    you little snitch  Cheesy..
But it's ok for everyone to defame Mr Trumps ?..

I think the word socialism upset them the most not the defaming Cheesy. and then you snitched to Mr moderator    the hitler dude who hates freedom of speech Cheesy..
Any Badecker trying to get some tezos if I get some I will give you some for being a cabbage Cheesy..No I love you really  Wink..

I bet you told off everyone to the teacher  Cheesy..Miss miss he just done this and that  Cheesy..

Back on topic in case Mr moderator moderates me Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  I must be the most deleted person on here  Cheesy..
I will evolve blockchain and smart contracts into something good Wink..

What can you evolve in the blockchain space that someday we can use in everyday life Badecker ?  ..
Do you have any ideas   and please don't say god  Grin..

The EVOLUTION OF BLOCKCHAINS and SMART CONTRACTS ..
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July 23, 2018, 10:29:44 PM
Signature in the Cell and Intelligent Design


https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/244136-2018-07-23-signature-in-the-cell-and-intelligent-design.htm
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/693-0723081033-origin-of-life.jpg



A question that never ceases to fascinate is that of how life originated, and how and why it has progressed as it seems to have. The official story and de rigueur explanation is that that life came about through spontaneous generation from seawater. Believing this is the mark of an Advanced Person, whether one has the slightest knowledge of the matter. In academia researchers have been fired and careers ruined for questioning it. If you doubt that scientists can be ideological herd animals, as petty, intolerant, vindictive, and backstabbing as professors, read Heretic, by the PhD biotechnologist and biochemist Matti Leisola, who fell on the wrong side of the herd. Ths establishment's continuing effort to stamp out heresy looks increasingly like a protracted desperatoon.

The other, more intuitive view of life is that of Intelligent Design. When one sees an immensely complicated system all of whose parts work together with effect and apparent purpose, such as an automobile or a cell, it is natural to think that someone or something designed it. There is much evidence for this, certainly enough to intrigue those of open mind and intelligence. Those of a philosophic bent may note that Freud, Marx, and Darwin are equally relics of Nineteenth Century determinism, and that Darwin wrote when almost nothing was known about much of biology. Note also that the sciences are tightly constrained and limited by their premises, unable to think outside of their chosen box.  Others, wiser, wonder whether there are not more things in heaven and earth.

The theory of ID is seen by the official story as a form of biblical Creationism of the sort holding that the world was created in 4004 BC. This is either wantonly stupid or deliberately dishonest.  There is of course no necessary connection between ID and Buddhism, Islam, or the Cargo Cult. There are scientists who are not proponents of ID but simply see that much of official Darwinism does not make sense or comport with the evidence. Some IDers are Christians, which does not affect the validity, or lack of it, orf what they say. To judge by my mail, many people have serious doubts about the official explanation without being zealots of anything in particular.

(For what it is worth, I am myself a complete agnostic. Faith and atheism both seem to me categorical beliefs in something one doesn't know. ID certainly provides no support for the existence of a loving Sunday School god, given that in almost all places and all times most people have lived in misery and died in agony.)

To me, though, things look designed. By what, I don't know.

Two difficulties affect the presentation of ID to the public.  First, most of us have been subjected to thousands of hours of vapid "science" programs and mass-market textbooks. These tell us  that doubters must be snake-handling forest Christians with three teeth. The second is that following the argument requires more technical grasp than most have. Trying to explain the question to a network-news audience is hopeless and makes those attempting it seem foolish.


Read more at https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/07/fred-reed/signature-in-the-cell-and-intelligent-design/.


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Your a hoax.

Yes, but, forum rules say we are not to start topics that are specifically for defaming people. So, staying on topic...

Evolution is a hoax, and the info in my previous post (along with other stuff) proves it.

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