Topic: Evolution is a hoax - page 54. (Read 108173 times)

Larken Rose On The Theory Of Evolution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsHkfWr5TEo

When I look at some peoples' behavior, I just can't help thinking that yesterday (or last week/month, etc.) they were still apes  

Kidding, of course, but some people really make me think that way

What you will find is scientists protecting their jobs at the universities by claiming nothing when they are questioned about evolution. Most of them know that evolution is not possible in any way we can figure it.

''people who show that evolution is a hoax'' Not understanding entropy =/= showing evolution is a hoax. Virtually every scientist, including scientists who believe in god and even non scientists who believe in god accept evolution as real. There is literally nothing to debate here, evolution is a reality and you are only opposed to it because you think it goes against god.

It's too bad about you jokers. You can't find any proof for evolution, so you badmouth people who show that evolution is a hoax. Well, there have always been false religions like evolution. And there always will be.

It's kinda funny. Over the years evolution theory has been changed so extremely much, that it doesn't match what Darwin said at all. The changes have converted evolution almost into adaptation. But there are a whole bunch of evolutionists that keep the old Darwin religion alive, and try to convert unsuspecting people into it. There must be money in it for them, somehow.

I don't believe humans come from monkeys if that's the case. But that's my belief, there is still no true evidence for it.

His brain evolved, heh, to refuse any evidence/proof of evolution, his brain has to dismiss any information that questions or disproves god.

Wow.. I haven't been here in years and BADLogic still hasn't bothered to spend 5 minutes researching evolution yet?

I can't seriously believe someone has endless hours to "debate" an issue they know nothing about... that's insane

1. Even if god was so complex, scientists would have something at least but they don't, even scientists that believe in god haven't published scientific papers or tried to make any scientific theories for god because there is 0 scientific evidence for his existence as shown in the other thread

2. No one is busy trying to prove evolution, evolution is proven beyond a doubt for quite some time now, thats why even religious people accept it.

Creationism is retarded.

Well, thank you for helping us to see that evolution is a hoax.

There are two major reasons why science won't catch up to the knowledge of Bible religion, and the understanding about the God of the universe:
1. Not enough millions of years of time to study the complexity of God, before God brings the end to all this;
2. Too busy trying to prove for things like evolution, which obviously doesn't exist.

Evolution is a hoax.

Silly boy, clearly Zeus programmed everything, the fact that you are even allowed to type here shows his greatness, silly.. There is no scientific papers because no serious scientist thinks evolution is a hoax, they all know it's real, just like most religious people know evolution is real.

No scientific papers for creationism, god, heaven, etc etc.

Check out the dictionaries and encyclopedias for definitions.

Regarding the scientific paper that shows how evolution violates the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics... probably doesn't exist, because evolution doesn't exist.

When you feel that you have free will, such feeling only shows the greatness of the Programmer in programming your feeling to be that way... programmed via C&E, of course.

You are so silly. Every aspect of scientific observation and experimentation uses C&E. Even the setting up of philosophizing operates through C&E in the mind of the philosopher.

No scientific proof for evolution theory evolution, yet?
So, evolution is still a hoax, right?

Show me the scientific paper exposing how evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. ''Entropy causes life on earth to be less complex.'' how are you defining complex? Is a baby less complex than an adult?

Cause and effect is a philosophical matter, not scientific. If you think everything has a cause then you know we have no free will which contradicts your beliefs.

Find the white paper yourself if it exists. Cause and effect in everything is programming. Why? Because if the beginning of everything was slightly different, everything would be different now, via the chain of causes and effects. All things exist exactly as they do because they were set up to exist as they do through the flow of C&E. That is programming.

Entropy causes life on earth to be less complex.

Evolution can't violate the 2nd law of Thermodynamics, because evolution doesn't exist. The fact that some people attempt to force themselves to believe in non-existent evolution, is and/or produces entropy in the lives of those people... and maybe in all of life, through the self-contradicting lie of the evolution idea. Or do you have some scientific proof for evolution all of a sudden?

Evolution is a hoax.

Show me the scientific paper/article that says everything is programmed.

Life causes entropy of the earth to decrease. This is offset by increased entropy of the sun, which is the primary source of energy for the earth. Overall, the entropy of the universe increases.

"Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics."

This shows more a misconception about thermodynamics than about evolution. The second law of thermodynamics says, "No process is possible in which the sole result is the transfer of energy from a cooler to a hotter body." [Atkins, 1984, The Second Law, pg. 25] Now you may be scratching your head wondering what this has to do with evolution. The confusion arises when the 2nd law is phrased in another equivalent way, "The entropy of a closed system cannot decrease." Entropy is an indication of unusable energy and often (but not always!) corresponds to intuitive notions of disorder or randomness. Creationists thus misinterpret the 2nd law to say that things invariably progress from order to disorder.

However, they neglect the fact that life is not a closed system. The sun provides more than enough energy to drive things. If a mature tomato plant can have more usable energy than the seed it grew from, why should anyone expect that the next generation of tomatoes can't have more usable energy still? Creationists sometimes try to get around this by claiming that the information carried by living things lets them create order. However, not only is life irrelevant to the 2nd law, but order from disorder is common in nonliving systems, too. Snowflakes, sand dunes, tornadoes, stalactites, graded river beds, and lightning are just a few examples of order coming from disorder in nature; none require an intelligent program to achieve that order. In any nontrivial system with lots of energy flowing through it, you are almost certain to find order arising somewhere in the system. If order from disorder is supposed to violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics, why is it ubiquitous in nature?

The thermodynamics argument against evolution displays a misconception about evolution as well as about thermodynamics, since a clear understanding of how evolution works should reveal major flaws in the argument. Evolution says that organisms reproduce with only small changes between generations (after their own kind, so to speak). For example, animals might have appendages which are longer or shorter, thicker or flatter, lighter or darker than their parents. Occasionally, a change might be on the order of having four or six fingers instead of five. Once the differences appear, the theory of evolution calls for differential reproductive success. For example, maybe the animals with longer appendages survive to have more offspring than short-appendaged ones. All of these processes can be observed today. They obviously don't violate any physical laws''

http://physics.gmu.edu/~roerter/EvolutionEntropy.htm

So, now you are trying to suggest that a pendulum won't ever stop swing on earth. Pendulum retardation. Simple entropy at its finest!

The obviousness of the programming is something that any simple scientist understands. Just because the term programming wasn't in common scientific use back when simple cause and effect was scientifically explained, doesn't make C&E to not be programming.

C&E programming along with entropy easily show the impossibility of evolution, at least as evolution is expressed by evolution theory.

Evolution is a hoax, and you are trying to expand the evolution hoax.

''the earth system shows signs of entropy all over the place'' What are you on about, are you trolling me or?
''The earth is NOT a closed system without entropy.'' ?? The earth is not a closed system, indeed, that's why evolution does not contradict the 2nd law of thermodynamics which clearly you don't understand at all, or just trolling. The 2nd law states ''In any closed system, the entropy of the system will either remain constant or increase.'' Earth is not a closed system, it's an isolated system. We gain radiated heat energy from the sun. This seems fairly easy to understand but religion has destroyed your brain.

Again, no scientific law says anything about things being programmed or that true randomness doesn't exist, you are just a nutjob. Show me the scientific law that says that.

The flaw in your links regarding evolution is, the earth system shows signs of entropy all over the place. This means constant upheaval. Evolution theory evolution has no way of getting around this upheaval. The earth is NOT a closed system without entropy. It's all guesswork regarding ETE.

So, what else could there be? The Bible creation story makes way more sense than evolution. If the same scientific effort had gone into creation-proving as has gone into searching for evolution, creation would have been proven long ago, scientifically.

As far as reactions go, are they actions or not? Did that little "re" throw you for a loop? Look at https://www.dictionary.com/browse/reaction?s=t for the definition of reaction, and note how many times it says that a reaction is an action.

I can understand why you are having a difficult time realizing that evolution is a hoax. You are looking at picky little things that don't have any worthwhile substance. You would strain a gnat out of your soup, but you would swallow a camel.

''Entropy shows us that this doesn't happen'' No it doesn't.
https://www.skeptical-science.com/science/claim-law-thermodynamics-disproves-evolution-nope/
https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/comments/4l3b55/my_dad_uses_entropy_to_disprove_evolution/

''Aren't they strings of C&E, actions and reactions?'' I don't care what they are, the law simply says that every action has a reaction, it does not talk about what causes an ''action'' which is what you are arguing about, saying everything is ''programmed'' which is in no way ever stated in any of our scientific laws.

Didn't you ever play pool? Or at least watch some good pool players play the game? Or haven't you looked at the posts you post to see that they are reactions of other posts? Or go to the top of the current main page of Politics & Society right in this forum. Look at Flying Hellfish's post, Request For Help From P&S Regulars where he says:What are those "trails" Flying Hellfish is talking about? Aren't they strings of C&E, actions and reactions?

Evolution is a form of simplicity to complexity, via actions-and-reactions/C&E. Entropy shows us that this doesn't happen. The fact that we can't find even one proof of evolution proves that entropy is correct, even without C&E.

Thank you for adding strength to the fact that...

Evolution is a hoax.