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November 04, 2019, 03:56:16 AM
What do you say about the strongest beast sacrificing his life for the fleeing beasts?

I believe your country was built by the sacrifices of Patriots. Do you think the selflessness of the beast or patriot is stupidity? Do you think they are inferiors?

For the first point, kin selection. There's some fascinating information out there about evolution of social insects such as ants. It's all about passing on genetic information, which is not always the same as survival of yourself.

For the second point... What? My country was built up by geological sedimentation, and populated by successive waves of immigration over thousands of years. Patriot is a fluid and relative term. Seriously though, why would you compare reasoned human decision-making with blind undirected evolution? I'm not denying that humans are capable of acting based on their own decisions.
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November 04, 2019, 03:20:32 AM
Which is more evolved:
— Termite or monkey?
—  Gorilla or Bee?
—  Bird or horse?
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November 04, 2019, 03:13:44 AM
what we call evidence for evolution can easily fit like-begets like, simple change, and adaptation.

Evolution is a hoax.

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If "evolution" means simple change, or like begets like, or adaptation, then there is evolution all over the place.

Great, so we're agreed. That's what evolution is: like begets like, and adaptation.

Your children inherit 50% of your DNA and 50% of the other parent's DNA. Your children are like you.
Some people can naturally run faster than other people. Some wildebeest can naturally run faster than other wildebeest. If you have a herd of wildebeest with a lion or whatever chasing them, the lion catches the slower wildebeest. The faster ones survive and have children. The children inherit their parents DNA, and so are also faster than average. Over generations, the average speed increases. The species as a whole has adapted faster legs to survive lion attacks. No intelligent hand involved in the design, it just happens through natural selection.

Here's a catchy song about it.

What do you say about the strongest beast sacrificing his life for the fleeing beasts?

I believe your country was built by the sacrifices of Patriots. Do you think the selflessness of the beast or patriot is stupidity? Do you think they are inferiors?


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November 04, 2019, 01:24:47 AM
what we call evidence for evolution can easily fit like-begets like, simple change, and adaptation.

Evolution is a hoax.

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If "evolution" means simple change, or like begets like, or adaptation, then there is evolution all over the place.

Great, so we're agreed. That's what evolution is: like begets like, and adaptation.

Your children inherit 50% of your DNA and 50% of the other parent's DNA. Your children are like you.
Some people can naturally run faster than other people. Some wildebeest can naturally run faster than other wildebeest. If you have a herd of wildebeest with a lion or whatever chasing them, the lion catches the slower wildebeest. The faster ones survive and have children. The children inherit their parents DNA, and so are also faster than average. Over generations, the average speed increases. The species as a whole has adapted faster legs to survive lion attacks. No intelligent hand involved in the design, it just happens through natural selection.

Here's a catchy song about it.
legendary
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November 03, 2019, 08:01:21 PM
But the only written records we have of the prehistoric past says that God created things perfect

DNA is a biologically written record that shows humans dna contains elements of previous evolutions of animal


also hand written scripture wrote by mans hand using ink. is the thoughts, opinions of the writer.. millions of years AFTER the supposed 'god' event occured so it is not even a witness statement but just hearsay

But human DNA was made this way by God, in creation, so that mankind could naturally have authority over the animals. There wasn't any Evolution Theory Evolution (ETE).

If "evolution" means simple change, or like begets like, or adaptation, then there is evolution all over the place. Nobody has proven ETE. Mostly, ETE has been dissproven over and over as science finds one way or another that ETE doesn't exist in ways they had thought.

Keep trying. ETE just isn't there.

To prove ETE, science would have to go back into the past and track the DNA over periods of thousands of years in thousands or millions of species. DNA just doesn't exist from hundreds of thousands of years ago.

Evolution is a great big unknown. Evolution is a hoax.

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November 03, 2019, 07:50:37 PM
But the only written records we have of the prehistoric past says that God created things perfect

DNA is a biologically written record that shows humans dna contains elements of previous evolutions of animal


also hand written scripture wrote by mans hand using ink. is the thoughts, opinions of the writer.. millions of years AFTER the supposed 'god' event occured so it is not even a witness statement but just hearsay
legendary
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November 03, 2019, 03:17:41 PM
Evolution is a hoax.

Evolution is proven science, comprehensively proven.

Things didn't just spring into existence, perfectly made. Evolution isn't perfect, it just means good enough to survive. The deer whose legs give them slightly more speed than the rest of their herd will not get eaten. They will pass on their genes for faster legs to the next generation, etc etc.

Take eyes as an example. Human eyes are great, but they're not perfect. If they were designed by God, then God fucked up. Why do we have a blind spot? It's because the nerves are in front of the screen, so we need a gap in the screen so they can get signals to the brain. It's not perfect, but it's good enough, the problem isn't bad enough to affect our survival chances. Octopus eyes are much better - they evolved the right way around, with the nerves behind the screen.

Q) Why did God give octopuses correctly-designed eyes, but deliberately fucked up the human design?
A) He didn't. Not God, not design, just gradual evolution from one generation to the next over millions of years.

https://i.imgur.com/ZIvP4fI.jpg

But the only written records we have of the prehistoric past says that God created things perfect, and that a perfect angel willingly turned evil, and made the imperfections. All our scientific observations won't be accurate until we take this into account.

The more we grow in science, the more we move towards the God vs. Satan idea. Evolution is absolutely not proven, and what we call evidence for evolution can easily fit like-begets like, simple change, and adaptation.

Evolution is a hoax.

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November 03, 2019, 03:11:31 PM
I don't believe that humans evolved from apes but I do believe that evolution is real, just not the evolutionary story of humans, I believe that many animals has evolved certain traits to help the survival of their species, just watching Nat-Geo Wild would open your eyes to that fact, many bizarre characters and weapons that some animals display were not there from the beginning and they developed them to survive, for example there is a fish that learnt to survive both on land and on sea, evolution in action.
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November 03, 2019, 12:52:30 PM
Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

I will explain my belief about it in a very layman way. Many eons back, few of the monkeys got the nudge to move from trees to grasslands in search of food, the basic need. On the way and during the course of many years, they formed groups, started communicating in sign language, discovered fire, learnt that cooked food gives more energy and is easy to chew , chipped stones to make elementary weapons and we had our ancestors. All the rest who were still on the trees are still eating bananas and eating lice.
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November 03, 2019, 02:52:47 AM
Evolution is a hoax.

Evolution is proven science, comprehensively proven.

Things didn't just spring into existence, perfectly made. Evolution isn't perfect, it just means good enough to survive. The deer whose legs give them slightly more speed than the rest of their herd will not get eaten. They will pass on their genes for faster legs to the next generation, etc etc.

Take eyes as an example. Human eyes are great, but they're not perfect. If they were designed by God, then God fucked up. Why do we have a blind spot? It's because the nerves are in front of the screen, so we need a gap in the screen so they can get signals to the brain. It's not perfect, but it's good enough, the problem isn't bad enough to affect our survival chances. Octopus eyes are much better - they evolved the right way around, with the nerves behind the screen.

Q) Why did God give octopuses correctly-designed eyes, but deliberately fucked up the human design?
A) He didn't. Not God, not design, just gradual evolution from one generation to the next over millions of years.

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August 16, 2019, 09:11:15 PM

Every species on Earth share DNA.  We share 26% of our DNA with single-cell organisms, 44% with bees, 50% with bananas, 99.6% with chimpanzees. 

You did not study evolution at all.  You cannot even ask the right questions.  You have no idea what it is and why it is a fact.


But no DNA sequencing has been done over thousands of years, tracking the animals or plants, and their descendants, to know if the changes in DNA were evolution in form.

By the looks of like-begets-like, it would be more reasonable to assume that the varieties of plants and animals were started at the same time, and that no changes were made. We should be looking for the process that started them, rather than pursuing something as foolish as evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

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August 16, 2019, 07:16:16 PM

Since you can't prove any of what you are saying, and since there are all kinds of scientific contradictions to what you are saying, your ideals would be a religion, except that they are a cult the way you present them.

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Buy a clue.  There is nothing to prove.  It is a fact.  End of story.  The evidence is self-evident.

All you need is to study the existing evidence.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_14



I agree, as do your websites. There is nothing to prove. Certainly not evolution.

All the evidence supports a whole line of things other than evolution. But none of it shows the DNA sequence needed to be proven over thousands of years to even suggest that such a thing as evolution could exist at all.

The clincher is cause and effect, which shows that everything is programmed. What does random in evolution show us? That we don't know.

When you search for reasons why evolution is impossible, you find way more solid things than anything that suggests evolution is possible.

Evolution is a hoax, and for you it is a cult.

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What is impossible is making humans from dirt or rib bones.  Talking snakes are impossible.

Japanese were making pottery before Adam and Eve ate the forbidden apple. LOL.

There are living trees that are older than the presumed Biblical global flood.

The stories in the Bible are physically not possible

Even if these things are not possible^^, still no proof for evolution. Or show the DNA sequence in thousands of animal descendants that would be needed to prove evolution. Where is it?

The question isn't where we come from. The question is evolution.

Evolution is a hoax.

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August 16, 2019, 06:57:19 PM

Since you can't prove any of what you are saying, and since there are all kinds of scientific contradictions to what you are saying, your ideals would be a religion, except that they are a cult the way you present them.

Cool

Buy a clue.  There is nothing to prove.  It is a fact.  End of story.  The evidence is self-evident.

All you need is to study the existing evidence.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/15-answers-to-creationist/

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evo_14



I agree, as do your websites. There is nothing to prove. Certainly not evolution.

All the evidence supports a whole line of things other than evolution. But none of it shows the DNA sequence needed to be proven over thousands of years to even suggest that such a thing as evolution could exist at all.

The clincher is cause and effect, which shows that everything is programmed. What does random in evolution show us? That we don't know.

When you search for reasons why evolution is impossible, you find way more solid things than anything that suggests evolution is possible.

Evolution is a hoax, and for you it is a cult.

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August 16, 2019, 03:24:27 PM
^^^ God formed Adam from the dust of the ground, and breathed into him the breath of life. A little later, God made adam fall asleep, and took one of his ribs and made a woman out of it - Eve.

If you are a 6-foot-tall man, how long is one of your ribs? Certainly the rib is much shorter than you are. So, Eve was much shorter than Adam.

Then, over the years, the genetics of the two were combined, so that women and men became more similar in their height. And in some cases, there are very tall women and very short men.

The point is that it's easy to see how there could have been giants for this reason alone. And if you want to throw in the Nephilim idea, who knows what other sizes of people could have existed in the past?

So, what exactly does this have to do with explaining that evolution is a hoax? And where does science document these giant remains?

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BADecker, I found your old interview on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVzzb8THZdY


Why don't you come right out and say it? Evolution is a hoax.

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Evolution of life on this planet is an undisputed FACT.

You can shout at the top of your lungs that it is a hoax or that Earth is 6000 years old with a steel dome over it but the facts remain, well, facts.

Evolution is a fact, Earth is billions of years old.  It is a planet, like any other of the billions of planets in billions of star systems in billions of galaxies.

Since you can't prove any of what you are saying, and since there are all kinds of scientific contradictions to what you are saying, your ideals would be a religion, except that they are a cult the way you present them.

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August 16, 2019, 08:43:44 AM
^^^ God formed Adam from the dust of the ground, and breathed into him the breath of life. A little later, God made adam fall asleep, and took one of his ribs and made a woman out of it - Eve.

If you are a 6-foot-tall man, how long is one of your ribs? Certainly the rib is much shorter than you are. So, Eve was much shorter than Adam.

Then, over the years, the genetics of the two were combined, so that women and men became more similar in their height. And in some cases, there are very tall women and very short men.

The point is that it's easy to see how there could have been giants for this reason alone. And if you want to throw in the Nephilim idea, who knows what other sizes of people could have existed in the past?

So, what exactly does this have to do with explaining that evolution is a hoax? And where does science document these giant remains?

Cool

BADecker, I found your old interview on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVzzb8THZdY


Why don't you come right out and say it? Evolution is a hoax.

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legendary
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August 16, 2019, 08:01:39 AM
^^^ The Smithsonian Institute's closet is full of giant skeletons.

Small closet in the funny farm.     Cool
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August 16, 2019, 05:04:09 AM
^^^ The Smithsonian Institute's closet is full of giant skeletons.
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August 15, 2019, 11:02:44 AM
^^^ God formed Adam from the dust of the ground, and breathed into him the breath of life. A little later, God made adam fall asleep, and took one of his ribs and made a woman out of it - Eve.

If you are a 6-foot-tall man, how long is one of your ribs? Certainly the rib is much shorter than you are. So, Eve was much shorter than Adam.

Then, over the years, the genetics of the two were combined, so that women and men became more similar in their height. And in some cases, there are very tall women and very short men.

The point is that it's easy to see how there could have been giants for this reason alone. And if you want to throw in the Nephilim idea, who knows what other sizes of people could have existed in the past?

So, what exactly does this have to do with explaining that evolution is a hoax? And where does science document these giant remains?

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legendary
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August 15, 2019, 05:04:42 AM
All the folks in the Bible (man) were 15' tall giants who lived for a 1000 years unless otherwise specified. Modern humans are called the "sons of man" but we are not literal sons. We're 6' tall and live for 130 years, we were created genetically different from man, we were created after man.

Anybody who claims they are a descendant of the David or any other "man" in the Bible not specifically identified as a "son of man" is full of shit. Evolution is a massive conspiracy covering up our true history!



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August 08, 2019, 07:19:36 PM
You need to remember that Christians are people, just like all other people.

Evolutionists, and especially evolution scientists, don't adhere to the greatest tenet of science that we know of... cause and effect. C&E says that everything is programmed according to complex programming that "causes" everything to react with the "effect" that happens. Rather, science tries to make "random" to be important, when all that random is, is lack of knowledge of the cause(s) behind the effects, and how the whole thing works together.

Yet, evolution scientists use C&E in everything that they do. In fact, the greater the scientist, the more he is into finding out the cause for whatever effect he has found. Or the more he is into finding a cause for the desired effect that he wants.

In the case of evolution, the desired effect is evolution without cause. So, there is entire contradiction in the process of science when science accepts evolution theory as it is suggested. And the contradiction lies in the statement that there is knowledge that evolution is real, when the term "random" in the theory says that nowbody knows.

Why should Christians not be swayed by evolution talk that seems logical? Are Christians generally such great thinkers that they should recognize the subtle double-talk of evolution theory? But it is God Himself that maintains all Christians in their faith in Him. Even when a Christian makes a mistake - like believing in evolution - if he remains a Christian, and asks God for forgiveness for mistakes he doesn't know about, God forgives him for this.

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