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November 05, 2019, 12:31:57 PM
a monkey didnt just ovulate a human
a monkey was raped by anothr animal and a mutation was born which through a process of cross breeding multiple times became a Neanderthal
No. Broadly speaking, different species can't interbreed. I can't breed with a zebra and create a weird zebra-man.
Monkeys bred with monkeys. Natural selection over billions of years created those monkeys from single celled organisms. Monkey isn't an end state. It just seems to be a fixed state from a human timescale. Human is not a fixed state. Everything is evolving right now, just very very very slowly from generation to generation.

(do you not know how many varients of 'monkey' there are?)
Yes, different fits to different circumstances. Monkeys, apes as well. All still evolving. On a more measureable timescale, the human jaw is a good example. It has been shrinking since we started to cook food. Because natural selection no longer favours a hugely strong jaw.
https://www.thoughtco.com/human-jaw-evolution-and-food-processing-4000409
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November 05, 2019, 12:24:07 PM
if monkeys ovulate to be human why until now I have never heard of monkeys being human.

Monkeys don't give birth to humans. That would be completely crazy, and that is not evolution.
Monkeys give birth to monkeys. What happens is that over millions of years, the monkeys slowly change due to natural selection. There is no sudden switch from monkey to human. The differences accrue extremely gradually. One generation is almost indistinguishable from the next. Maybe over a hundred generations you can see a slight difference. Over millions of years the difference is crystal clear.

'Monkey' is not an end state. 'Human' is not an end state. There is no end state. Evolution is simply what happens over many generations as a species adapts to its environment.
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November 05, 2019, 07:36:11 AM
yes that's a trick that exists in this century but still believed by some people, if monkeys ovulate to be human why until now I have never heard of monkeys being human.

a monkey didnt just ovulate a human
a monkey was raped by anothr animal and a mutation was born which through a process of cross breeding multiple times became a Neanderthal
(do you not know how many varients of 'monkey' there are?)
the neanderphal had higher thyroid function(gland inside the throat which some people distinguish as the 'adams' apple)
this increased the metabolism and the ability to think more than the predecessors thus they got smarter and learned to hunt better than monkeys.
so while monkys stayed in tree's and now became aware of the risk of other animal rape/cross breeding. they stayed out of the way.. while the homosapiens took to the ground and walked and fought off any attackers
with the homosapiens more cross breading and variants occured, some lived, some died. thats the whole natural strongest and fittest survive and thrive stuff

millions of years later people started to wonder about evolution. so people started talking around camp fires about how things began. and insights about the difference between monkey thyroid and human thyroid became a story about an apple that was given to a human. and he shared it with another human of similar mutation/evolution level(dna) which became a story about ribs being exchanged. just because language at the time didnt have words for explaining how two people had similar dna and such.

these camp fire stories then spread from clan/colony to colony and each tweaked the story a little more trying to in one way understand the science and in other ways create a emotional, provocative story to entertain. whilst both still not have the language to be the 'sciency' version

those clans that used the story as a moral guide of whats right/wrong. and a story of warning to not be nosey and walk off down dark paths, let them not fall into dangerous situations of harm. thus they survived because of these stories. the stories then expanded to tell other moral rules people should follow.
like no same sex love and no sodemy as it made them sick (yes aids existed back then(though they didnt have a name for it), but due to these stories of warning, it became near non existant and not talked about once the stories scared people off from doing same sex stuff)

and thus eventually it became a religion but where the stories were a wishy washy mess of twists to previous versions of it and misunderstandings. because back then they couldnt write. so their stories were just word of mouth and vague memory of a story they hear as a kid, who heard it from someone who heard it as a kid
but people used it as their rule of law and morals
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November 05, 2019, 05:44:21 AM
yes
as styca explains
but to go into more detail

a goose has not been a goose all its ancestry.
at one point a swan and a duck made sweet love and produced an ugly offspring.. that offspring was named a goose

the whole chicken and egg thing
ofcourse the egg came first
before the egg was some small raptor like dinosaur bird that made sweet love to another bird like creature and produced the egg that became the chicken

as for human evolution.
well you just have to look at incestual hillbillies. if members of the same immediate family 'get it on' the offspring is gonna appear dang ugly ad mutated in view of what is the norm of visuals of what the parents would look like. but that offspring could then become the next evolution

also when a gorilla rapes a dolphin you might end up with this guy


basically. unless your an identical clone of your parent. you are an evolved version of them because your different then them. and thats how evolution works
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November 05, 2019, 12:47:48 AM
Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

That is why it is called “Theory” of Evolution.
No. I answered this on the 'did we land on the moon thread': We didn't descend form modern monkeys. Modern monkeys and modern humans descended from a common ancestor. Here's an analaogy to answer the quesion:
My father’s father died many years ago, but he left quite a few living descendants, including me, my sister, and my paternal cousins. To ask the question ‘If humans evolved from monkeys, how come there are still monkeys?’ is a bit like asking me ‘If you are descended from your grandfather, how come your cousins are still alive?’ The question doesn’t make any sense: why shouldn’t my cousins still be alive?.


I also do not believe with this theory about humans are evolved form of monkeys. However, evolution itself is real in terms of survivability. Living things were evolving to adapt to their environment.
Why are monkeys always brought up in these arguments? Evolution doesn't just mean that humans are descended from monkey-like creatures. If you go (a lot) further back we are descended from fish, too. If you go far enough back, all life on earth is descended from single-celled organisms.
Also if you agree that 'Living things were evolving to adapt to their environment', then you agree with the theory of evolution. That's all it is, evolving to be a better fit to current environment. The problem people have is timescales. We didn't descend from monkeys overnight, it happened over millions of years.


I’m not an expert but there explanations about this.
Yes, see above.
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November 04, 2019, 10:43:14 PM
Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

That is why it is called “Theory” of Evolution.

I also do not believe with this theory about humans are evolved form of monkeys. However, evolution itself is real in terms of survivability. Living things were evolving to adapt to their environment.

I’m not an expert but there are explanations about this.
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November 04, 2019, 04:44:36 PM
Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

The Darwins theory of evolution is still to be proved but i do believe in evolution. As the climate and condition changed for many eons, the organism adopted to the changes and evolved for survival. Specifically , monkeys who decided to move around and out of trees , evolved during the years as they covered distances in groups and in the process discovered art, sign language, fire, stones and more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh0F4FBLJRE

That's a neat science fiction talk that Dawkins does there. Not a lick of proof for it, however.

Cool
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November 04, 2019, 01:23:55 PM
Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

The Darwins theory of evolution is still to be proved but i do believe in evolution. As the climate and condition changed for many eons, the organism adopted to the changes and evolved for survival. Specifically , monkeys who decided to move around and out of trees , evolved during the years as they covered distances in groups and in the process discovered art, sign language, fire, stones and more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh0F4FBLJRE
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November 04, 2019, 11:49:35 AM
^^^ Your perceptions are being managed and manipulated, start going over the evidence with a fine-tooth comb and you'll find the devil is in the details. When you start getting fierce push-back, mocked and receive overwhelming social and financial pressure to conform to established ideals, you know you're on the right track.
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November 04, 2019, 11:34:20 AM
Some of the viewpoints expressed here seem completely insane to me, as I'm sure my viewpoints do to other people.
It's a nice debate, and it's interesting that someone who doesn't believe in evolution also doesn't believe in gravity and thinks the earth is flat. If the problem is with just accepting what you're taught without question, then I can agree with that. We must question all our assumptions. That's why this thread is good. I just find it difficult that the evidence that convinces me fails to convince other people. To me, the evidence for gravity, spherical earth and evolution through natural selection seems absolutely overwhelming.

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November 04, 2019, 11:33:28 AM
@djsugar belief is the enemy of knowing, faith has no place in the scientific arena. Prove your shit or GTFO!

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November 04, 2019, 11:26:48 AM
^^^ Your mockery adds nothing to this discussion, the current state of "modern science" is completely divorced from the scientific method in order to support a corrupt and false official narrative.

Gravity and evolution are unproven theories, deal with it.

https://i.imgur.com/Yav28gl.jpg

Gravity is real. We use it everyday.

Gravity Theory is unproven.

Cool
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November 04, 2019, 11:18:50 AM
Why there are still monkeys around if they were part of our evolutionary beginnings ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz0gFarCfBE

The Darwins theory of evolution is still to be proved but i do believe in evolution. As the climate and condition changed for many eons, the organism adopted to the changes and evolved for survival. Specifically , monkeys who decided to move around and out of trees , evolved during the years as they covered distances in groups and in the process discovered art, sign language, fire, stones and more.
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November 04, 2019, 10:55:01 AM
^^^ Your mockery adds nothing to this discussion, the current state of "modern science" is completely divorced from the scientific method in order to support a corrupt and false official narrative.

Gravity and evolution are unproven theories, deal with it.

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November 04, 2019, 10:26:02 AM
^^^ Outer space is fake, a pressurized atmosphere can't exist next to a vacuum; the earth is covered by a dome. The entirety of the big-bang/heliocentric/globe model is a giant crock of steer manure.

When you discover gravity the whole world will become less magical.

Until then, it is all domes, giants, electric fields, Damascus steel, light projections, optical aberrations, and illusions. LOL.
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November 04, 2019, 10:20:54 AM
^^^ Outer space is fake, a pressurized atmosphere can't exist next to a vacuum; the earth is covered by a dome. The entirety of the big-bang/heliocentric/globe model is a giant crock of steer manure.

The earth is flat and motionless.
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November 04, 2019, 09:58:26 AM
^^^ If it's denser than air it falls/sinks and if it's lighter it floats.

Agreed. Sinks meaning keeps sinking until it encounters something denser. Floats meaning still sinks, but sinks less than the medium it's in. Put some wood in water, and it floats - it's still sinking towards the Earth, just less than the water is, because water is denser. I can't believe we're agreed on something!

Now go bigger scale with loads of stuff in a vacuum, all sinking towards each other. Add some pressure and heat. Voila. Big ball of rock with water on the surface and air above, all sitting there together in vacuum.
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November 04, 2019, 08:54:26 AM
^^^ If it's denser than air it falls/sinks and if it's lighter it floats.
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November 04, 2019, 08:44:31 AM
As soon as you realize curved water and pressurized gas can't exist on the surface of a ball that spins a 1000 mph in a hard vacuum with no barrier, the entire game changes.

Are you really claiming that gravity is a hoax? I can't be bothered to defend that as well. Throw something up in the air and see what happens.
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November 04, 2019, 08:31:52 AM
^^^ You've been lied to about where you live, who you are and where you came from.

The evolution of spices is nonsense outside of the spinning wet rock in a vacuum you've been deluded into thinking that you live on. As soon as you realize curved water and pressurized gas can't exist on the surface of a ball that spins a 1000 mph in a hard vacuum with no barrier, the entire game changes.

Your fictional scenario on an impossible ball may seem plausible to you, but only within the framework of the heliocentric globe model and its fallacious claim to a history billions of years. Evolution is a theory that supports a bigger lie, not any kind of science backed by observable, testable, repeatable experiments and evidences.

The wildly varying results from the various radiocarbon dating methods is a perfect example of the cherry-picking that goes on in "modern science" to support their globe inspired theories and outright lies.
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