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January 10, 2025, 03:53:35 PM
Well i really have my serious doubt about Mercedes with Kimi Antonelli, i think they took a very big risk, Russel is a super driver but he still dont show the proper performance, and Hamilton is no more to safe him and the team, lets see if Kimi Antonelli is as good as predicted, i trust on Wollf eye but.....
January 10, 2025, 08:24:25 AM
Meanwhile, each team has 30 diesel trucks carrying the cars and the parts around the globe, and all the teams flying burn more fuel in one week than all the f1 cars did in a decade competing. 
But let's overcomplicate things, why not?
Well, F1 was never about environment. At least not for real, since those "logistics" were always there (and more). But let's overcomplicate things, why not?Imho F1 is about innovation in engineering (and aerodynamics) and of course, exposure, commercials, money, driving skill and some show...
I can only hope that the new regulations are about innovation in engineering and not only to add some drama for the sake of the show, but one can never be sure...
I don't remember if at any point in Formula 1, there was a guy that was hated so much even without being involved in any race for a trophy like Lawson.
Danny Ric was loved by many. Liam Lawson did a good job when Ric was injured, and afterwards, when Ric came back on his seat, Liam started acting like he is the best driver on the grid and the whole world is against him and not let him drive. When he's got his proper seat he was no longer interesting and he fared worse than Yuki.Now, after that, he's getting Checo's seat. So now, after Danny Ric fans and Yuki's, Liam has angered Checo fans too. And the Latinos have a completely different temperament, good luck with that.
If RB doesn't fix the car and it will run just like last season, the guy will have simply no chance to stay around
It's not only that RB have to fix their car. It's also that the competition has to mess up theirs badly. And with such small changes in the cars this time... I think that Liam is out of luck.That is just like saying that Saudi Arabia is going to strive to be even 60% green.
They sell fossil fuels FFS. Their business is completely encircled in polluting the atmosphere and does not want 100% electric cars on the road.
They want to put a knife in their own bellies and have petrol to be completely worthless?
Of course, they would not.
But this is not a thread on the politics of their business. It is inregards to the sport and these regulations are to make them more money just like how all businesses instate their own rules so to benefit from them in the future.
Shoot themselves in the foot? Hell no. They won't be putting these regulations in place if they want to do this.
Anyways, back to the new season and discussion on the drivers paired up with each of their respective teams:
Every 2025 F1 driver line-up ranked from worst to best!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In5i0yKEyOE
January 08, 2025, 08:49:50 AM
If RB doesn't fix the car and it will run just like last season, the guy will have simply no chance to stay around
It's not only that RB have to fix their car. It's also that the competition has to mess up theirs badly. And with such small changes in the cars this time... I think that Liam is out of luck.
If RB fixes the car and it's like before outclassing Ferrari and the McLaren it doesn't matter how bad of a driver Liam is, he will still make it to the top, just how Perez was always there near the top, when the car become the worst of the top 4, he started having problems defending the 8th place.
So, on top of that, being teammate with Max who is far ahead by any metric Liam will look like the worst driver even if he does better than Perez.
Danny Ric was loved by many. Liam Lawson did a good job when Ric was injured, and afterwards, when Ric came back on his seat, Liam started acting like he is the best driver on the grid and the whole world is against him and not let him drive.
He is 35 and Liam is 22, Danny had his chances just like Perez, at some point people get tired of waiting for a breakthrough
January 07, 2025, 09:56:53 AM
Meanwhile, each team has 30 diesel trucks carrying the cars and the parts around the globe, and all the teams flying burn more fuel in one week than all the f1 cars did in a decade competing. But let's overcomplicate things, why not?
But let's overcomplicate things, why not?Well, F1 was never about environment. At least not for real, since those "logistics" were always there (and more).
Imho F1 is about innovation in engineering (and aerodynamics) and of course, exposure, commercials, money, driving skill and some show...
I can only hope that the new regulations are about innovation in engineering and not only to add some drama for the sake of the show, but one can never be sure...
I don't remember if at any point in Formula 1, there was a guy that was hated so much even without being involved in any race for a trophy like Lawson.
Danny Ric was loved by many. Liam Lawson did a good job when Ric was injured, and afterwards, when Ric came back on his seat, Liam started acting like he is the best driver on the grid and the whole world is against him and not let him drive. When he's got his proper seat he was no longer interesting and he fared worse than Yuki.
Now, after that, he's getting Checo's seat. So now, after Danny Ric fans and Yuki's, Liam has angered Checo fans too. And the Latinos have a completely different temperament, good luck with that.
If RB doesn't fix the car and it will run just like last season, the guy will have simply no chance to stay around
It's not only that RB have to fix their car. It's also that the competition has to mess up theirs badly. And with such small changes in the cars this time... I think that Liam is out of luck.
January 06, 2025, 08:43:34 AM
I don't remember if at any point in Formula 1, there was a guy that was hated so much even without being involved in any race for a trophy like Lawson.
You can't open a tweet about F1 drivers without a f$%# word directed at him, now I even get some videos about him in the YT recommendations that are just trashing the guy, now there is even a trend on TT "everyone hates lawson".
If RB doesn't fix the car and it will run just like last season, the guy will have simply no chance to stay around unless he gets some backing and seems like he has none.
Meanwhile, each team has 30 diesel trucks carrying the cars and the parts around the globe, and all the teams flying burn more fuel in one week than all the f1 cars did in a decade competing. But let's overcomplicate things, why not?
You can't open a tweet about F1 drivers without a f$%# word directed at him, now I even get some videos about him in the YT recommendations that are just trashing the guy, now there is even a trend on TT "everyone hates lawson".
If RB doesn't fix the car and it will run just like last season, the guy will have simply no chance to stay around unless he gets some backing and seems like he has none.
Such as the 50/10 split of engine regulations between internal combustion and electrical power for an example of what is to be introduced in the 2026 season.
Meanwhile, each team has 30 diesel trucks carrying the cars and the parts around the globe, and all the teams flying burn more fuel in one week than all the f1 cars did in a decade competing.
But let's overcomplicate things, why not? January 03, 2025, 05:19:56 PM
New drivers before the new F1 season have their profiles shown on the official F1 x posts a few hours ago:
https://x.com/F1/status/1875234684642455742
https://x.com/F1/status/1875234684642455742
January 01, 2025, 10:24:38 AM
With the F1 2025 season coming there hasn't been any regulations done by the FIA to change the cars significantly compared to the 2026 season.
Except for the teams slight tweaks their engineers do along the way when once the racing is under way.
Such as the 50/10 split of engine regulations between internal combustion and electrical power for an example of what is to be introduced in the 2026 season.
Except for the teams slight tweaks their engineers do along the way when once the racing is under way.
Such as the 50/10 split of engine regulations between internal combustion and electrical power for an example of what is to be introduced in the 2026 season.
December 29, 2024, 03:39:16 PM
@stompix & @NeuroticFish
Remember seeing a video of what happened to Perez and how he was racing for the best team to getting knocked out of his seat so fast.
How Sergio Perez’s Red Bull F1 career went so wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTHZU291_TQ
Remember seeing a video of what happened to Perez and how he was racing for the best team to getting knocked out of his seat so fast.
How Sergio Perez’s Red Bull F1 career went so wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTHZU291_TQ
I think he had a great run with RedBull for his end of career and he should be proud of. However , beating Max or comparing him with Max simply cannot be done but I do think no matter the driver you would have put in that RedBull , I doubt they could perform as near as perfect as Max because his driving style is something unique and you cannot adapt to it in 1 year or 2 years or even 3 years. This being said , Sergio Perez had a great run in F1 and whenever Max will be mention in the future , I'm sure Perez name will pop up as well.
December 29, 2024, 12:32:12 PM
Remember seeing a video of what happened to Perez and how he was racing for the best team to getting knocked out of his seat so fast.
While I think that some of his good deeds were not properly highlighted, it is a good and informative video.
It looks like:
* the changes of the car towards Max' driving style un-favor Checo greatly, especially those from 2024
* something has changed lately (car balance, tire composition) and Checo's strength in conserving the tires was no longer that important
* since the moment Checo shortly had dreams on world championship, Max sees him as enemy (I've wondered why he was avoiding to help Checo with tolling at qualifying).
December 28, 2024, 09:00:24 AM
@stompix & @NeuroticFish
Remember seeing a video of what happened to Perez and how he was racing for the best team to getting knocked out of his seat so fast.
How Sergio Perez’s Red Bull F1 career went so wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTHZU291_TQ
Remember seeing a video of what happened to Perez and how he was racing for the best team to getting knocked out of his seat so fast.
How Sergio Perez’s Red Bull F1 career went so wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTHZU291_TQ
December 25, 2024, 05:19:28 AM
2025 F1 driver line-up
Driver Team Contract End
Max Verstappen Red Bull 2028
Liam Lawson Red Bull 2025
Lewis Hamilton Ferrari multi-year
Charles Leclerc Ferrari multi-year
George Russell Mercedes 2025
Andrea Kimi Antonelli Mercedes Unknown
Lando Norris McLaren "Long-term"
Oscar Piastri McLaren 2026
Lance Stroll Aston Martin
"2025 and beyond"
Fernando Alonso Aston Martin 2026
Alex Albon Williams 2025
Carlos Sainz Williams "Beyond 2026"
Nico Hulkenberg Sauber multi-year
Gabriel Bortoleto Sauber multi-year
Pierre Gasly Alpine "Long-term"
Jack Doohan Alpine 2025
Esteban Ocon Haas multi-year
Oliver Bearman Haas multi-year
Yuki Tsunoda Racing Bulls 2025
Isack Hadjar Racing Bulls 2025
https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1046665/1/2025-f1-driver-line-who-confirmed-and-rumoured-2025-grid
2 months at the start of testing, this is the current line up for the next year
Driver Team Contract End
Max Verstappen Red Bull 2028
Liam Lawson Red Bull 2025
Lewis Hamilton Ferrari multi-year
Charles Leclerc Ferrari multi-year
George Russell Mercedes 2025
Andrea Kimi Antonelli Mercedes Unknown
Lando Norris McLaren "Long-term"
Oscar Piastri McLaren 2026
Lance Stroll Aston Martin
"2025 and beyond"
Fernando Alonso Aston Martin 2026
Alex Albon Williams 2025
Carlos Sainz Williams "Beyond 2026"
Nico Hulkenberg Sauber multi-year
Gabriel Bortoleto Sauber multi-year
Pierre Gasly Alpine "Long-term"
Jack Doohan Alpine 2025
Esteban Ocon Haas multi-year
Oliver Bearman Haas multi-year
Yuki Tsunoda Racing Bulls 2025
Isack Hadjar Racing Bulls 2025
https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1046665/1/2025-f1-driver-line-who-confirmed-and-rumoured-2025-grid
2 months at the start of testing, this is the current line up for the next year
December 24, 2024, 09:14:33 AM
Are you implying that because of the poor performance some sponsors didn't renew the sponsorship contracts for next year and this came to light only after last race? If so... it could make sense.
Or moved to different levels:
https://www.f1technical.net/news/25812
Sponsors want coverage, if Perez is giving them only when he crashes then they would rather spend it in other ways.
Not to well actually.
Lance Stroll will forever be an F1 driver within the bounds of Aston Martin.
Lance Stroll will forever be an F1 driver within the bounds of Aston Martin.
It's still his son, till he does something really really stupid he will always be the second pilot, even if they manage to get Max as a driver I doubt he will kick Lance but rather Alonso, let's not forget how this would look on Lance when the other teams see his own father doesn't want him, so he would be basically ending his career forever with such a move.
December 24, 2024, 04:23:16 AM
Yep, it's official now. And yes, it's a quite strange move because:
* Checo would have deserved a proper notice in order to find himself another team (not a high chance for that, but still)
* Checo would have deserved a proper notice in order to find himself another team (not a high chance for that, but still)
Common, everyone was sure he would get fired from the middle of the season, there is no way he didn't realize what was going to happen, and probably in a private deal, they told him that a long time ago. Also for sure, it wasn't a secret because of the money involved, Perez has kept his place because of the best backing in terms of value in all of Formula 1, no way RB would try to mess with all those sponsors and pull such a move without all the paperwork.
Can see Alonso driving with Verstappen rather than with Lance.
Well, how did it turn out?
Lance Stroll will forever be an F1 driver within the bounds of Aston Martin.
Alonso wanted to stay put and drive out his days for Lance's dad afterall. No movement from him one bit.
Liam Lawson on the other hand will be alright at Red Bull. He will take orders and follow them being the green one on the team behind champion Max Verstappen.
December 23, 2024, 07:00:06 AM
I think that sponsors backed him up because he was there on the podium, it's one thing to have your name on the jersey of the guy finishing even second, but it's a completely different thing seeing the one your backing is 10 places below his teammate
Are you implying that because of the poor performance some sponsors didn't renew the sponsorship contracts for next year and this came to light only after last race? If so... it could make sense.
Last season he managed 2 wins and 2 pole positions in the first 5 races, after that the whole season he got only 2 3rds and 2 4th, so the decline was evident a year ago.
The first races he was just fine. Then - especially after Miami - he just went from bad to worse. I agree that the cars have lost their edge, even Max had difficult times - but quite some races later and he has managed to recover. So yes, it's the cars too; or especially the cars. But Checo has done good also with Force India, a weaker car. I don't know... Maybe he's not the kind of driver that can adapt to any kind of car. But how many of them are??
December 23, 2024, 06:47:49 AM
You may be right; on the other hand, exactly because of that backing he could have hoped for even more chances, since his contract was recently renewed.
It somehow feels like he or his car were sabotaged somehow, the incredible list of bad performances and bad luck is almost unnatural, especially compared to his previous years (or even the first couple of races of this year). I think that he kept feeling that he's "just this close" to be back on the top of the game.
It somehow feels like he or his car were sabotaged somehow, the incredible list of bad performances and bad luck is almost unnatural, especially compared to his previous years (or even the first couple of races of this year). I think that he kept feeling that he's "just this close" to be back on the top of the game.
I think that sponsors backed him up because he was there on the podium, it's one thing to have your name on the jersey of the guy finishing even second, but it's a completely different thing seeing the one your backing is 10 places below his teammate, a bit like Serena vs Venus, it's still Williams but not the right one.
As for the sabotage, I don't know, maybe the car was previously so good that managed to make the top 3, and now is so crappy that even Max is barely holding on to it?
Last season he managed 2 wins and 2 pole positions in the first 5 races, after that the whole season he got only 2 3rds and 2 4th, so the decline was evident a year ago.
December 23, 2024, 06:02:19 AM
Common, everyone was sure he would get fired from the middle of the season, there is no way he didn't realize what was going to happen, and probably in a private deal, they told him that a long time ago. Also for sure, it wasn't a secret because of the money involved, Perez has kept his place because of the best backing in terms of value in all of Formula 1, no way RB would try to mess with all those sponsors and pull such a move without all the paperwork.
You may be right; on the other hand, exactly because of that backing he could have hoped for even more chances, since his contract was recently renewed.
It somehow feels like he or his car were sabotaged somehow, the incredible list of bad performances and bad luck is almost unnatural, especially compared to his previous years (or even the first couple of races of this year). I think that he kept feeling that he's "just this close" to be back on the top of the game.
So yes, "looking from outside" you may be right, but I think that the situation was not that simple. With nothing announced in the last race of 2024, I myself thought that he got lucky and he will be there in the spring, as a very last chance.
December 22, 2024, 05:07:09 PM
Thanks for the nice graphic of the driver arrangement for next season.
But there is still along ways to go until the start of the 2025 season so many things can be a factor that these might not be the exact positions especially if someone gets an offer they simply can not refuse on the offseason.
There are alot of unknown faces on that list aswell. Bearman we have all seen race in F1 as the reserve driver for Ferrari. But names such as Doohan and Hadjar, I wouldn't doubt many on here haven't heard of these two drivers before. They probably got sent straight from F2 into these roles such as happened to Bearman.
What surprised me the most were the reshuffling of the Sauber drivers.
Zhou Guanyu left the team and replaced with, as I had mentioned above, another driver from F2 Gabriel Bortoleto.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/breaking-kick-sauber-confirm-rookie-bortoleto-as-second-driver-for-2025.2EL5ciR1wh3baHcobZqGl9
Didn't know Bottas was no longer going to be driving for them either but a reserve driver for Mercedes for the upcoming season instead.
Bottas Eyes Cadillac Seat in 2026 After Mercedes Reserve Role.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/cy4pj0j9z98o
Looks like they will both be rejoining eachother in the 2026 season possibly under Audi:
https://www.independent.co.uk/f1/f1-valtteri-bottas-sauber-gabriel-bortoleto-b2642263.html
But there is still along ways to go until the start of the 2025 season so many things can be a factor that these might not be the exact positions especially if someone gets an offer they simply can not refuse on the offseason.
There are alot of unknown faces on that list aswell. Bearman we have all seen race in F1 as the reserve driver for Ferrari. But names such as Doohan and Hadjar, I wouldn't doubt many on here haven't heard of these two drivers before. They probably got sent straight from F2 into these roles such as happened to Bearman.
What surprised me the most were the reshuffling of the Sauber drivers.
Zhou Guanyu left the team and replaced with, as I had mentioned above, another driver from F2 Gabriel Bortoleto.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/breaking-kick-sauber-confirm-rookie-bortoleto-as-second-driver-for-2025.2EL5ciR1wh3baHcobZqGl9
Didn't know Bottas was no longer going to be driving for them either but a reserve driver for Mercedes for the upcoming season instead.
Bottas Eyes Cadillac Seat in 2026 After Mercedes Reserve Role.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/cy4pj0j9z98o
Looks like they will both be rejoining eachother in the 2026 season possibly under Audi:
https://www.independent.co.uk/f1/f1-valtteri-bottas-sauber-gabriel-bortoleto-b2642263.html
Lots and lots of changes so far in F1 driver lineup and I'm sure more will follow in January.
I don't think Bottas can take that Cadillac seat as once you go a reserve driver role , you rarely comeback from it and Bottas has already 12 years in F1 if I remember correctly.
Zhou unfortunately lost his seat but in my opinion he should have been kept for this season as well because he barely produces any damage to the car and has a lot of big sponsors behind him too.
December 22, 2024, 03:24:04 PM
Yep, it's official now. And yes, it's a quite strange move because:
* Checo would have deserved a proper notice in order to find himself another team (not a high chance for that, but still)
* Checo would have deserved a proper notice in order to find himself another team (not a high chance for that, but still)
Common, everyone was sure he would get fired from the middle of the season, there is no way he didn't realize what was going to happen, and probably in a private deal, they told him that a long time ago. Also for sure, it wasn't a secret because of the money involved, Perez has kept his place because of the best backing in terms of value in all of Formula 1, no way RB would try to mess with all those sponsors and pull such a move without all the paperwork.
Can see Alonso driving with Verstappen rather than with Lance.
Well, how did it turn out?
December 22, 2024, 05:35:54 AM
Thanks for the nice graphic of the driver arrangement for next season.
But there is still along ways to go until the start of the 2025 season so many things can be a factor that these might not be the exact positions especially if someone gets an offer they simply can not refuse on the offseason.
There are alot of unknown faces on that list aswell. Bearman we have all seen race in F1 as the reserve driver for Ferrari. But names such as Doohan and Hadjar, I wouldn't doubt many on here haven't heard of these two drivers before. They probably got sent straight from F2 into these roles such as happened to Bearman.
What surprised me the most were the reshuffling of the Sauber drivers.
Zhou Guanyu left the team and replaced with, as I had mentioned above, another driver from F2 Gabriel Bortoleto.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/breaking-kick-sauber-confirm-rookie-bortoleto-as-second-driver-for-2025.2EL5ciR1wh3baHcobZqGl9
Didn't know Bottas was no longer going to be driving for them either but a reserve driver for Mercedes for the upcoming season instead.
Bottas Eyes Cadillac Seat in 2026 After Mercedes Reserve Role.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/cy4pj0j9z98o
Looks like they will both be rejoining eachother in the 2026 season possibly under Audi:
https://www.independent.co.uk/f1/f1-valtteri-bottas-sauber-gabriel-bortoleto-b2642263.html
But there is still along ways to go until the start of the 2025 season so many things can be a factor that these might not be the exact positions especially if someone gets an offer they simply can not refuse on the offseason.
There are alot of unknown faces on that list aswell. Bearman we have all seen race in F1 as the reserve driver for Ferrari. But names such as Doohan and Hadjar, I wouldn't doubt many on here haven't heard of these two drivers before. They probably got sent straight from F2 into these roles such as happened to Bearman.
What surprised me the most were the reshuffling of the Sauber drivers.
Zhou Guanyu left the team and replaced with, as I had mentioned above, another driver from F2 Gabriel Bortoleto.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/breaking-kick-sauber-confirm-rookie-bortoleto-as-second-driver-for-2025.2EL5ciR1wh3baHcobZqGl9
Didn't know Bottas was no longer going to be driving for them either but a reserve driver for Mercedes for the upcoming season instead.
Bottas Eyes Cadillac Seat in 2026 After Mercedes Reserve Role.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/cy4pj0j9z98o
Looks like they will both be rejoining eachother in the 2026 season possibly under Audi:
https://www.independent.co.uk/f1/f1-valtteri-bottas-sauber-gabriel-bortoleto-b2642263.html
December 22, 2024, 04:16:37 AM
The 2025 driver line-up is here officially:
Source: https://x.com/F1/status/1870055620377788737
Mercedes is really going to start with Antonelli. There have been some rumours such as they think of swapping him with Sainz from Williams recently. However it looks like there is no such thing. I'm curious about what this kid will do next season.
Leclerc - Hamilton duo at Ferrari... It sounds really lovely.
We could watch a quite fierce competition between these 2 drivers. It is a chance for Hamilton to go for his 8th title to break the record only himself too. It depends on how strong car Ferrari will give him of course.
Perez's departure was no surprise. He was terrible and didn't deserve the seat anymore. I just waited for Tsunoda also to have a chance but they chose Lawson instead. We will see if they regret it.
Source: https://x.com/F1/status/1870055620377788737
Mercedes is really going to start with Antonelli. There have been some rumours such as they think of swapping him with Sainz from Williams recently. However it looks like there is no such thing. I'm curious about what this kid will do next season.
Leclerc - Hamilton duo at Ferrari... It sounds really lovely.
We could watch a quite fierce competition between these 2 drivers. It is a chance for Hamilton to go for his 8th title to break the record only himself too. It depends on how strong car Ferrari will give him of course.Perez's departure was no surprise. He was terrible and didn't deserve the seat anymore. I just waited for Tsunoda also to have a chance but they chose Lawson instead. We will see if they regret it.
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