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Aston Martin's car seems to be a hybrid between three different cars from last years variants:
Alpine, Mercedes and Red Bull.
Alpine for their pod concept with the curve on the top which is not similar to any of the above mentioned car designs.
Mercedes for the front wing design but has slight variations to make it even more aerodynamically superior in every sense of the word.
And last but certainly not least the Red Bull Racing RB18 in it's over all body structure from the 2022 season.
Hence the joke from Sergio at the end of the premier race back in Bahrain.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/sergio-perez-joins-aston-martin-banter-bahrain
Well Aston Martin did a really good job but where I think Red Bull is the strongest is evolution of the car with every race. Having them start so good is bad sign for rest of field and for viewers. I was watching every pre season testing and photos from cars to find out who has the edge. I still think Ferrari is better then it shows the standing but we will see. If you like hopium let's pray that punishment Red Bull got last year to limit the time in wind tunnel etc. will help other teams catch up. Will they be too far in standings at that point?
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Aston Martin's car seems to be a hybrid between three different cars from last years variants:
Alpine, Mercedes and Red Bull.
Alpine for their pod concept with the curve on the top which is not similar to any of the above mentioned car designs.
Mercedes for the front wing design but has slight variations to make it even more aerodynamically superior in every sense of the word.
And last but certainly not least the Red Bull Racing RB18 in it's over all body structure from the 2022 season.
Hence the joke from Sergio at the end of the premier race back in Bahrain.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/sergio-perez-joins-aston-martin-banter-bahrain
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Toto Wolf basically said that Red Bull having a big domination is not something they should be guilty of, or FIA be guilty of, that's the nature of the sport and they had it from 2014 to 2020 as well and sometimes this happens and its part of the sport. I think he is right and this domination that Red Bull has will go on for as long as other teams can't catch them, if other teams start building better cars and reach to their level then we can have some difference. Look at 2021, sure you can argue if FIA gave the title to Max or not on the last lap, but it is true that Red Bull reached close to Mercedes that year, so other teams should try to do that towards Red Bull as well. This year is already over from just two races, we know Red Bull will win, but they should work on next years car right away.
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Surely I was really too surprised by Max Verstappen he climb 13 places and went ahead of Fernando Alonso in lap 25
I don't think it is so much surprising from Max because he won from P14 to P1 last year right? In the Belgian GP 2022? That's what he could do especially with a great car, he really has performed so well. What makes me more amazed is how it was handled with the overtaking. Just wow.

Well, this is the 1st time that I am seeing it because it is the 2nd time watching a race, well like I have said I was a fan of Ferrari back then and well Michael Schumacher was number 1, so that is back in 2003, I think until Fernando Alonso take it on 2005, well Max Verstappen really has great talent and I am still seeing the recent champions that I have missed in the F1 back on 2003, so relearning history I guess, and watching Max Verstappen he surely got  quite the skill in taking the lead one after the other, but I guess he was out of time for the final lap and Fernando Alonso got penalized and manage only the 3rd position, but still Red Bull still on the lead and won with Sergio Pérez as the lead in the Jeddah Corniche Circuit,

Surely I was really too surprised by Max Verstappen he climb 13 places and went ahead of Fernando Alonso in lap 25 while Fernando Alonso has given a penalty which is why George Russell has given the 3rd place, while Fernando Alonzo was very frustrated, on what has happened, while Sergio Pérez was the champion for the Saudi Arabia Grand Prix 2023 the way he handles Jeddah Corniche Circuit and keep the lead for himself was really amazing but the most impressive was really Max Verstappen cutting pass 13 or 12 cars ahead of him, that is one incredible feat for him, here are the video highlights for the race on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxGpi0racMc]Saudi Arabia Grand Prix
Max is Max and he did the exact same thing last season on the Belgian track. The Red Bull machine is just too strong and if they need a climb 15 places they can do it, not a problem. It is really quite remarkable really.
On a dime for what he has achieved so far with only his own team mate one bettering him shows you what their engineers have on their hands.

@boltz Yeah, they have 100% record of having a safety car deployed on that track. So I don't know why I thought Sunday was the day to not have one to cost me a nice payout on my betslip.

@crwth Alonso was very lucky at having the team of Aston Martin requested a review by FIA committee on the 10 second penalty.
https://www.wtf1.com/post/fernando-alonso-podium-reinstated-after-aston-martin-wins-review

Fernando had fun time with what happened as you can see from this hilarious tweet he put out after all was set and done:
https://www.planetf1.com/news/fernando-alonso-funny-tweet-podium-trophy
source: https://twitter.com/GeorgeRussell63/status/1637549585819217923

"Hola boys!"
https://twitter.com/alo_oficial/status/1637827068653084673

He was a good sport and took it all in stride. Didn't seem to be upset or argue too much at having his 100th podium place taken away from him at the time.
Very cool and chill nando!

Max is really Max, well Max Verstappen really has some skill and potential but yes the Machine or the vehicles of Red Bull right now is quite powerful and surely this is the design of Adrian Martin Newey that the machine of red bull is so much powerful Adrian Newey has focused more on Aerodynamics that the body of the car is pretty much lightweight, he ingenuity for Newey have Mercedes and Aston struggle surely a lot,

Fernando Alonzo, instead of being upset about what happened well is surely all fun and loving, while right now we are entering the Australian GP and the track is  Melbourne Grand Prix Circuit, and we had a long break because the next game will take place On April April 2
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Surely I was really too surprised by Max Verstappen he climb 13 places and went ahead of Fernando Alonso in lap 25 while Fernando Alonso has given a penalty which is why George Russell has given the 3rd place, while Fernando Alonzo was very frustrated, on what has happened, while Sergio Pérez was the champion for the Saudi Arabia Grand Prix 2023 the way he handles Jeddah Corniche Circuit and keep the lead for himself was really amazing but the most impressive was really Max Verstappen cutting pass 13 or 12 cars ahead of him, that is one incredible feat for him, here are the video highlights for the race on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxGpi0racMc]Saudi Arabia Grand Prix
Max is Max and he did the exact same thing last season on the Belgian track. The Red Bull machine is just too strong and if they need a climb 15 places they can do it, not a problem. It is really quite remarkable really.
On a dime for what he has achieved so far with only his own team mate one bettering him shows you what their engineers have on their hands.

@boltz Yeah, they have 100% record of having a safety car deployed on that track. So I don't know why I thought Sunday was the day to not have one to cost me a nice payout on my betslip.

@crwth Alonso was very lucky at having the team of Aston Martin requested a review by FIA committee on the 10 second penalty.
https://www.wtf1.com/post/fernando-alonso-podium-reinstated-after-aston-martin-wins-review

Fernando had fun time with what happened as you can see from this hilarious tweet he put out after all was set and done:
https://www.planetf1.com/news/fernando-alonso-funny-tweet-podium-trophy
source: https://twitter.com/GeorgeRussell63/status/1637549585819217923

"Hola boys!"
https://twitter.com/alo_oficial/status/1637827068653084673

He was a good sport and took it all in stride. Didn't seem to be upset or argue too much at having his 100th podium place taken away from him at the time.
Very cool and chill nando!
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Surely I was really too surprised by Max Verstappen he climb 13 places and went ahead of Fernando Alonso in lap 25
I don't think it is so much surprising from Max because he won from P14 to P1 last year right? In the Belgian GP 2022? That's what he could do especially with a great car, he really has performed so well. What makes me more amazed is how it was handled with the overtaking. Just wow.
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Surely I was really too surprised by Max Verstappen he climb 13 places and went ahead of Fernando Alonso in lap 25 while Fernando Alonso has given a penalty which is why George Russell has given the 3rd place, while Fernando Alonzo was very frustrated, on what has happened, while Sergio Pérez was the champion for the Saudi Arabia Grand Prix 2023 the way he handles Jeddah Corniche Circuit and keep the lead for himself was really amazing but the most impressive was really Max Verstappen cutting pass 13 or 12 cars ahead of him, that is one incredible feat for him, here are the video highlights for the race on Saudi Arabia Grand Prix



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Max has around @2.3 odds to win the race...are you kidding me right now ?  Shocked Shocked like how much ahead his car actually is ? because it looks to me like he could be placed with 1 lap behind and he would still catch a top 5... . Anyway , I still hope for a great race with some key battles for key positions and maybe a safety car ? That car always have it's presence on this track.

However , my bet is completely on Piastri on this track because he loves it so much from F2.

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1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m28.485s
2   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m29.098s
3   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m29.483s
4   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m29.509s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m29.568s
6   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m29.588s
7   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m29.690s
8   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m29.698s
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m29.701s
10   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m29.761s
11   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m29.811s
12   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m29.917s
13   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m29.933s
14   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m29.953s
15   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m29.983s
16   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m30.035s
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m30.131s
18   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m30.317s
19   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m30.797s
20   Nyck de Vries   NED   Scuderia AlphaTauri   No Time Set


Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1022310/1/f1-2023-saudi-arabian-grand-prix-final-practice-results

Ferrari is still down in engine, lets see if they can compete.

Excluding RBR, the rest of the grid can be in 1 second-ish


It was clearly going to be domination for Red Bull again, Max Verstappen set up yet again another good record and he is getting used to the Jeddah Corniche Circuit cutting off perfectly to every corner, while Sergio Perez is also OK with it both Red Bull racers surely have some tips for them in navigating to the Jeddah Circuit, while rival Aston Martin Fernando Alonso is having the 3rd position for this 3rd practice, Sad to say I love Ferrari (the car) landed yet again in a close position Charles Leclerc in the 6th position while Carlos Sainz in the 10th position, while Nyck de Vries a driver that didn't drive and set no time,



Verstappen had just had problems with his transmission. He was shifting into third gear then it just locked up on him.
Announcers are saying it could be a drive shaft or a transmission failure in qualifying 2.
This could be detrimental for how the grid formation goes for race. Red Bull needs a new gearbox to fix it.
Alot of people had him being in pole tomorrow but no more. His day is done for qualifying for today.

Even with that kind of problem Max Verstappen really did a great job with the 3 practices and this has assured Red Bull that their 2 drivers will land another 1st and 2nd position tomorrow, this is for sure if there would be just smooth driving and no technical problem with their vehicle because Aston Martin is just behind the corner, and it was said that Fernando Alonso can still drive more than an hour on the Circuit because his car is really performing very well we will surely see what may happen tomorrow,

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I'm still expecting a fight from him tomorrow even if he goes last on the grid as his cars also allows him to make a recovery race but I guess we will see tomorrow.

I'm glad that I saw Ferrari having at least a decent lap and put a great effort from Leclerc to put his car 2nd fast even if he has that grid penalty but the car performed much better than the practice seasons when they were nowhere a great pace.

George Russel seems to somehow having a better knowledge of his car and even if he still struggles with the car , he managed to place with car 4th fastest and he will start tomorrow from 3rd place and he will try to overtake if he has the occasion but on the same time , I do want a duel between Alonso and Perez.
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Verstappen had just had problems with his transmission. He was shifting into third gear then it just locked up on him.
Announcers are saying it could be a drive shaft or a transmission failure in qualifying 2.
This could be detrimental for how the grid formation goes for race. Red Bull needs a new gearbox to fix it.
Alot of people had him being in pole tomorrow but no more. His day is done for qualifying for today.
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The last hour is done.

1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m28.485s
2   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m29.098s
3   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m29.483s
4   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m29.509s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m29.568s
6   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m29.588s
7   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m29.690s
8   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m29.698s
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m29.701s
10   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m29.761s
11   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m29.811s
12   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m29.917s
13   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m29.933s
14   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m29.953s
15   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m29.983s
16   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   1m30.035s
17   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   1m30.131s
18   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   1m30.317s
19   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m30.797s
20   Nyck de Vries   NED   Scuderia AlphaTauri   No Time Set


Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1022310/1/f1-2023-saudi-arabian-grand-prix-final-practice-results

Ferrari is still down in engine, lets see if they can compete.

Excluding RBR, the rest of the grid can be in 1 second-ish
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Oh what a surprise. Max Verstappen is top of both practice 1 & 2. Only 3 left to see if any of the other cars even have a chance at the Red Bull on the fastest track for the F1 circuit before qualifying starts later on today.
Have an acca I had made before the engine penalty given to Ferrari on Friday. It was for Leclerc to get pole position winning the qualification run. Well that is more than likely not going to happen from what we have all seen so far.
It is looking like another Red Bull Dominated race at Saudi Arabia this weekend.
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Funny how Ferrari is going from "this season is screwed " towards " we have such a package that we can continue to improve it during all races from now on" . Well....we're waiting , don't we ? I think all Ferrari fans desire to see them winning a championship one more time but having such a confidence in your car after in first race they had a DNF , makes me thinks maybe they are insane or trying to hide their mistakes or that car really have something special that can be improve during this year... Grin

Not really looking good for the Ferrari team Carlos Sainz landed 7th position on the FP1 while Charles Leclerc landed in the 11th position for the FP1 it was really a struggle for most drivers and for their 1st drive in the Jeddah Corniche Circuit 1st practice run so it is really complicated putting your bet for them and even though Sergio Perez got a hard time in his 1st run he still manages to land on the 2nd spot, while Max Verstappen is putting a great show and making a 1:29.617 time while in the FP2 Perez now landed 3rd, while Aston Martin's Fernando Alonso makes a great job and getting a hang on this Circuit,



Many are really complaining about this track and this Circuit was then modified and has less change than the last one so racers that have an experience in the Jeddah Corniche Circuit, will have a difficult time with these little changes, for many are really having a difficult time in dealing with this Circuit, here are the results for the FP1 and FP2 Pactices you can click the picture for provided videos,

Here are the result of the FP1 practice (Click for videos)




And here are the result of the FP2 practice (Click for videos)


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Wasn't Ferrari in the very same mindset with the second race last season?
This "we are doomed" scenario with the race just kicking off in the season's schedule just seems to be ridiculous.

Meanwhile the race weekend is about to kick-off in about 1 hour 30 minutes according to the countdown clock on the official F1 website and they have a new programme for everyone to be able to follow any updates on the races live.
So you can check that out available now on the official F1 site to have a convenient way to access everything from the practice runs all the way up to the final race on race Sundays:

Check out our all-new digital race programme for this weekend's Formula 1 stc Saudi Arabian Grand Prix 2023 in Jeddah, including features on Mercedes' George Russell and new Williams team boss James Vowles - plus stats on all 10 teams...
Experience the free race programme with animation, sound and video in the Official F1 Race Programme app, available in your App Store.
Get every edition, every race weekend on your phone.

source: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.saudi-arabian-grand-prix-read-the-all-new-digital-race-programme-here-2023.3F0qJR94yv2IFnYq9Jjdmn.html


I still want to believe that Ferrari can do better but after what I saw in FP1 and FP2 , I really doubt Ferrari can have the pace for being 2nd team in F1 because its becoming clear that Aston Martin really have a complete package from car to drivers and engineers and also a great engine from Mercedes that somehow fits more well in AM than in Mercedes itself ... .

I'm so curious what qualifiers will bring tomorrow but after what I saw in first race , I have flashbacks from the legendary year of Michael of 2002 where he simply dominated the championship by a mile and competition really stood no chance and if I remember correctly he had over 60 points advantage from 2nd place which was Barrichello. Grin
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Yup! that is why there are initial Practices so racers that are new to the Circuit or have a new vehicle will be familiar with the curve and when will they turn to corners, I think the 1st practice tomorrow will be crucial for most racers, and their vehicles as well, well the fastest recorded time in the Jeddah Corniche Circuit was and Audi RS 3 LMS TCR (2021) with a time record of 1:16.986 that was driven by Gilles Magnus, in the 2022 WTCR Race of Saudi Arabia event,
With the free practice in Jeddah, it's definitely seen there that the Red Bulls are still leading even with a rocky start with the two, like with the understeering with their cars but they had managed and they got P1 and P2 for that. The Aston Martins have gotten really good with P3 and P4, and the Mercedes at P5 and P6.

I can't wait the qualifying for this one.



If anyone is interested with the highlights, check it here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byENVlHz0PU
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Wasn't Ferrari in the very same mindset with the second race last season?
This "we are doomed" scenario with the race just kicking off in the season's schedule just seems to be ridiculous.

Meanwhile the race weekend is about to kick-off in about 1 hour 30 minutes according to the countdown clock on the official F1 website and they have a new programme for everyone to be able to follow any updates on the races live.
So you can check that out available now on the official F1 site to have a convenient way to access everything from the practice runs all the way up to the final race on race Sundays:

Check out our all-new digital race programme for this weekend's Formula 1 stc Saudi Arabian Grand Prix 2023 in Jeddah, including features on Mercedes' George Russell and new Williams team boss James Vowles - plus stats on all 10 teams...
Experience the free race programme with animation, sound and video in the Official F1 Race Programme app, available in your App Store.
Get every edition, every race weekend on your phone.

source: https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.saudi-arabian-grand-prix-read-the-all-new-digital-race-programme-here-2023.3F0qJR94yv2IFnYq9Jjdmn.html
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Funny how Ferrari is going from "this season is screwed " towards " we have such a package that we can continue to improve it during all races from now on" . Well....we're waiting , don't we ? I think all Ferrari fans desire to see them winning a championship one more time but having such a confidence in your car after in first race they had a DNF , makes me thinks maybe they are insane or trying to hide their mistakes or that car really have something special that can be improve during this year... Grin
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What makes it challenging is the track itself, for sure. Like the long straights and flowing corners, you really have to be careful by maintaining high speeds while doing those corners you know. There are tight turns that really push you to the edge and I think there would be some action in the actual race or something. The track is definitely hard, and it's a new track so less practice for them and less reference data.

Yup! that is why there are initial Practices so racers that are new to the Circuit or have a new vehicle will be familiar with the curve and when will they turn to corners, I think the 1st practice tomorrow will be crucial for most racers, and their vehicles as well, well the fastest recorded time in the Jeddah Corniche Circuit was and Audi RS 3 LMS TCR (2021) with a time record of 1:16.986 that was driven by Gilles Magnus, in the 2022 WTCR Race of Saudi Arabia event,


Ferrari should be stronger on this track cause they are the fastest on the straight line. Now the thing that will decide if this race will be close is tire management. If Ferrari has better tire degradation then in Bahrain we can have a interesting race in our hand this weekend.

What straight line? I think this Circuit just has 3 or 4 straight lines and I think Jeddah Corniche Circuit is composed of 24 corners that are really absurd for new racers, but I guess F1 vehicles can out-maneuver this kind of circuit, it was really exciting to analyze the Circuit that racers will go race on and I think they already devise a tactical plan in approaching such obscure Circuit, and I think Sergio Perez already has some idea about this track because he surely got the 2nd fastest time recorded on this track with 1:28:200, using the Red bull Racing RB18

Well ,this season is already kinda over for my boys Ferrari and Charles really don't deserve this as he just got a penalty.

Quote " BREAKING: Charles Leclerc set for Jeddah grid penalty following a switch to a third Control Electronics unit of the season 🛠️ "

I really feel sorry for Charles man as the kid deserves a strong and reliable car because he was the only one who beat Max during kart days and man...I really want to see these 2 fight with almost equal cars.

This was really a bummer well it is not Charles Leclerc's fault it was the idea of the Ferrari team was forced to be replaced the Energy Store and Control Electronics on Leclerc’s engine which is a big No for the F1 Racing community, when Charles Leclerc shouted no power on his vehicle, this is not really looking good now for the Ferrari, and right now Max Verstappen is the championship, leader.
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Well ,this season is already kinda over for my boys Ferrari and Charles really don't deserve this as he just got a penalty.

Quote " BREAKING: Charles Leclerc set for Jeddah grid penalty following a switch to a third Control Electronics unit of the season 🛠️ "

I really feel sorry for Charles man as the kid deserves a strong and reliable car because he was the only one who beat Max during kart days and man...I really want to see these 2 fight with almost equal cars.
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