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Quote from: darxiaomi on September 23, 2022, 06:47:12 PM

Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat, i think he dont do good things to stay in F1 this two season are really bad with sparkles of light from him , but not enought to reamin in F1 for my opinion.

Sadly, as a backer of Tsunoda, I need to dispel any more illusions of him for next season. He's had more than enough chances. Great guy, decent driver, but certainly proved himself to be out of depth for F1. No need to mention Dutch GP heh.

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The goat is behind his 2 teammates and one of them did only 1 race Grin

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Maybe that is part of why he be goat? Wink

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^ 'Mathematical calculations' are nothing more than something for the fans to get interested in and to continue watching. And yeah... It's already Verstappen's season and Red Bull's. Even the books have gotten lazy and turned on the juice on Verstappen's line and made it 1.40 - 1.49 for the next race. Lol. They could be giving some value in Leclerc's line in the process tho.

Anyway, I'll make a very small bet on Vettel winning the Singapore GP. It's his favorite track and he gets lucky in it. We'll see.

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There is obviously no more of the current title contention. Max already won it, and Red Bull already won it, what's left right now is only just mathematical calculations but it's over.

I hope that Ferrari could at least keep the second place, because if they race terrible for the remainder of the season and Mercedes end up with some great results, there is a chance that Mercedes could end up with second and that would be quite difficult for Ferrari to accept. I wager Max will win this race as well, I am going to bet on that at least, because let's face it he is the best driver right now, but he also has the best car out there for sure as well.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on September 23, 2022, 06:47:12 PM

Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat

Well, Zhou Guanyu is also in a similar situation. Heck, from what I heard even Checo have bought his seat with funds from wealthy Mexican sponsors, especially at start (see here if you can stand the awful translation)

And Lando Norris father is multi millionaire and Lance Stroll father bought whole team for his son Cheesy

. That's reality, you don't have big chance to get seat in F1 if you're poor. But there is difference that some paid drivers can deliver result (c'mon, even Stroll had few podiums) and there is guys like Latifi or Mazepin.

Exactly. And while, as you said, even Stroll was able to deliver, Latifi (or Mazepin) didn't. Even Zhou had some reasonably OK races. Of course, most probably a big percentage of the blame goes to the cars too, but when the other driver with same car does on a constant manner significantly better... it's time to try somebody new.

I'm sure a lot of F1 fans are annoyed by the wealthy billionaires buying entire teams just to keep their kids entertained. And these sons of the rich are boasting that they have become real racers. And many of them, such as Mazepin, are completely unable to really become worthy athletes. Perhaps only Lando Norris has the ability to at least in the slightest degree correspond to the level of skill of the best riders. But all the same, the label "son" he will have his whole career. And this is a reality that Lando will never be able to defeat. Alas. Sad

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F1 returns for the race that will determine the title of the championship this weekend in Singapore!

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The scenario needed for Redbull & Verstappen taking the title in this race:

Verstappen holds a 116-point lead over Charles Leclerc at the top of the F1 standings with six races to go, while Red Bull team-mate Sergio Perez remains in slight contention 125 points off the Dutch driver.

Here’s how Verstappen can seal the F1 world title in Singapore:

If Verstappen wins with the fastest lap, Leclerc finishes eighth or lower and Perez finishes fourth or lower
If Verstappen wins without the fastest lap, Leclerc finishes ninth or lower and Perez finishes fourth or lower without the fastest lap
Any alternative results which don’t fit into those two scenarios and the title fight rolls on to the Japanese GP.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on September 26, 2022, 03:07:04 AM

I fear that if he cannot go back to Alpine, there's not much other chance for him in F1. I don't think that he will go into much worse cars when he already did bad in better ones.
I guess that we will have to get used to miss his big smile like the one from that McLaren 1-2 win.

Actually Alpine are in a better condition than McLaren. Because McLaren disappointed people with their performance despite having a lot of money to use for the development of their car. They had a much bigger potential than this. Everything can change next season of course if McLaren work hard to prepare a much more powerful car. They need to use their funds efficiently from now on.

Maybe Ricciardo can still do much better at Alpine compared to his performance in the current season. Because if he doesn't have any problem with Ocon like he has with Norris from time to time, he would race smoother. He is still one of the most skilled drivers on the grid. But it is hard to expect the performance he had at Red Bull from him at this point.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on September 23, 2022, 06:47:12 PM

Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat

Well, Zhou Guanyu is also in a similar situation. Heck, from what I heard even Checo have bought his seat with funds from wealthy Mexican sponsors, especially at start (see here if you can stand the awful translation)

And Lando Norris father is multi millionaire and Lance Stroll father bought whole team for his son Cheesy

. That's reality, you don't have big chance to get seat in F1 if you're poor. But there is difference that some paid drivers can deliver result (c'mon, even Stroll had few podiums) and there is guys like Latifi or Mazepin.

Exactly. And while, as you said, even Stroll was able to deliver, Latifi (or Mazepin) didn't. Even Zhou had some reasonably OK races. Of course, most probably a big percentage of the blame goes to the cars too, but when the other driver with same car does on a constant manner significantly better... it's time to try somebody new.

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Don't forget that Ricciardo left Renault not in very nice way, so I think that his return to Alpine isn't very likely. It will be interesting time when many teams still don't have full lineup for next season and many drivers without contracts.

I fear that if he cannot go back to Alpine, there's not much other chance for him in F1. I don't think that he will go into much worse cars when he already did bad in better ones.
I guess that we will have to get used to miss his big smile like the one from that McLaren 1-2 win.

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Quote from: CLS63 on September 23, 2022, 06:10:47 PM

By the way, I don't think that Ricciardo would join Williams. The biggest alternatives for him are Alpine and Haas for now. I would rather seeing him at Alpine as he can be more competitive for upper places. But it isn't all about the car of course. He needs to improve his performance and make up for this poor season. Tsunoda's extending his contract has made one thing clear that the rumours about Gasly can be true. He might really leave the team and join Alpine. But there are some other drivers also being linked with the same team so let's see.

Don't forget that Ricciardo left Renault not in very nice way, so I think that his return to Alpine isn't very likely. It will be interesting time when many teams still don't have full lineup for next season and many drivers without contracts.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on September 23, 2022, 06:47:12 PM

Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat

Well, Zhou Guanyu is also in a similar situation. Heck, from what I heard even Checo have bought his seat with funds from wealthy Mexican sponsors, especially at start (see here if you can stand the awful translation)

And Lando Norris father is multi millionaire and Lance Stroll father bought whole team for his son Cheesy

. That's reality, you don't have big chance to get seat in F1 if you're poor. But there is difference that some paid drivers can deliver result (c'mon, even Stroll had few podiums) and there is guys like Latifi or Mazepin.

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Quote from: darxiaomi on September 23, 2022, 06:47:12 PM

Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat

Well, Zhou Guanyu is also in a similar situation. Heck, from what I heard even Checo have bought his seat with funds from wealthy Mexican sponsors, especially at start (see here if you can stand the awful translation)

Yuki stands much better than Latifi, but, indeed, I don't know for how long, since he doesn't seem to improve/mature fast enough.
The thing is that Mick also may not be the right material there... and this has became visible when compared with K-Mag.

So the near future can bring a lot of changes (but although it can, I don't know if it actually will).

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Quote from: darxiaomi on September 23, 2022, 06:47:12 PM

Well like one guy say, Latifi "can be more remembered than other drivers better than him" and this its really true, the Verstappen tittle was really made for his fault, without that LW will be the champion.
But well its a healthy move by williams dropping the "paid driver" to hire a better driver.

Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat, i think he dont do good things to stay in F1 this two season are really bad with sparkles of light from him , but not enought to reamin in F1 for my opinion.

Honestly, I feel bad for Latifi because of all the hatred he is receiving because of what he has done. However, I think that this was the right choice from Williams, since they really needed to replace this guy with someone who was better, so I think this is the right choice. Nyck de Vries and Mick Schumacher from Formula 2 are two names that come to mind when thinking about good candidates. Actually, I feel very bad for him since he is the target of so much hatred for allowing Max Verstappen to win that race. In the course of his career, that could have been one of the biggest events of his life that could have led to his downfall.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on September 24, 2022, 03:56:29 PM

Latifi when the team don't want him to finish the season in 20th position. Grin

He will really be missed and remembered despite being a terrible driver. Cheesy

People have made so many memes about him so far. I hope that he is also laughing at those memes instead of getting angry with them. Williams are very likely to bring Nyck de Vries to replace him. Maybe they are one of the weakest teams in F1 now but it shouldn't matter for de Vries now. Because he is finally close to a full-season opportunity in F1. I believe that he can be more helpful for the team than Latifi.

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The goat is behind his 2 teammates and one of them did only 1 race Grin

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MEANWHILE, Jean Todd officially declined a coming back to Ferrari. Wink

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Well like one guy say, Latifi "can be more remembered than other drivers better than him" and this its really true, the Verstappen tittle was really made for his fault, without that LW will be the champion.
But well its a healthy move by williams dropping the "paid driver" to hire a better driver.

Other "paid driver" its Tsunoda, clearly Honda its putting him in that seat, i think he dont do good things to stay in F1 this two season are really bad with sparkles of light from him , but not enought to reamin in F1 for my opinion.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on September 23, 2022, 03:07:55 PM

Guys, really? Any single message about GOATifi leaving Williams at the end of season. He haven't achieved anything significant in his career and probably didn't deserved seat in F1. Though, he wasn't worst driver in F1 history. But he always will be remembered as person who played main role in last race of 2021 season and gave chance for Verstappen to become champion.
There is few options who can replace him. It's Nyck de Vries, Mick Schumacher, Daniel Ricciardo and few names from F2.
In other news, Yuki Tsunoda extended contract with Alpha Tauri for 2023 season.

Indeed Latifi has done Verstappen a really great favour for Verstappen before leaving Williams. Grin

I don't have too much to talk about him to be honest because he isn't one of the impressive drivers in F1. I don't expect him to find a new team for himself in 2023 season also. By the way, I don't think that Ricciardo would join Williams. The biggest alternatives for him are Alpine and Haas for now. I would rather seeing him at Alpine as he can be more competitive for upper places. But it isn't all about the car of course. He needs to improve his performance and make up for this poor season. Tsunoda's extending his contract has made one thing clear that the rumours about Gasly can be true. He might really leave the team and join Alpine. But there are some other drivers also being linked with the same team so let's see.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on September 23, 2022, 03:07:55 PM

Guys, really? Any single message about GOATifi leaving Williams at the end of season. He haven't achieved anything significant in his career and probably didn't deserved seat in F1. Though, he wasn't worst driver in F1 history. But he always will be remembered as person who played main role in last race of 2021 season and gave chance for Verstappen to become champion.
There is few options who can replace him. It's Nyck de Vries, Mick Schumacher, Daniel Ricciardo and few names from F2.
In other news, Yuki Tsunoda extended contract with Alpha Tauri for 2023 season.

Yes I did see this video this morning labelled as Latifi leaving Williams but had a picture of DeVries looking very excited.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdbBtlpfsds

So I guess he got his seat on the team.

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Guys, really? Any single message about GOATifi leaving Williams at the end of season. He haven't achieved anything significant in his career and probably didn't deserved seat in F1. Though, he wasn't worst driver in F1 history. But he always will be remembered as person who played main role in last race of 2021 season and gave chance for Verstappen to become champion.
There is few options who can replace him. It's Nyck de Vries, Mick Schumacher, Daniel Ricciardo and few names from F2.
In other news, Yuki Tsunoda extended contract with Alpha Tauri for 2023 season.

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Quote from: Distraction on September 23, 2022, 08:48:26 AM

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I'm not a fan of "Schumacher"

However, want to see him with a better team & engine. Ocon is recommended him for "Alpine", I know Ricciardo is a former Alpine driver but look the points between these 2 drivers. Schumacher on Hass only has 7 points against Ricciardo, It's better to invest on a young driver and give Schumacher one more chance since he has 2 good race results.

I'm hoping to see Schumacer taken "Alpine" seat and give him one last chance.

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Christian Horner stated that he hoped to see Ricciardo reaching an agreement with Alpine for next season. Because he believes that Ricciardo is still one of the best drivers on the grid now.

I can agree with this point of view definitely. I also think that Ricciardo is still a great driver despite this poor season. Maybe this season might be like this because of some in-team problem. I see Norris and Ricciardo having some problems between each other sometimes. Maybe these things are affecting Ricciardo bad mentally and we see its reflection on his performance. Concentration is the key factor in Formula 1. If you let some other problems occupying your head it would cause a significant drop in your performance. I hope Ricciardo can make a better comeback in 2023 season.

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Quote from: buwaytress on September 23, 2022, 05:15:18 AM

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Last race we don't make a huge mistake, everything is perfect. Strategy from Ferarri is good at the last race, the problem only advantage power unit (Redbull) to goat. Since we don't make a mistake, is interesting to watch for GP Singapore.

Unless, Ferarri back to the old habits and we're gonna f*ck.

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I have a question for all of you, after this little break and with the majority of position settled, if you are a team principal what you do? You start to prove 2023 piece or you keep upgrading the 2022 car?

I'm not an expert on here but if I were to be a team principal, I would focus on 2023 now because that's where I could make the most impact instead of this year, 2022 since it's not gonna make any dent or significant changes for sure. I would make sure that I could carry over the progress that I have for 2022 to 2023.

Yeah, I know mathematically the season's not determined yet but realistically, it's like trying to catch City with 10 games left to go and hoping they lose half of them (sorry for the football analogy).

I'd definitely focus on 2023, and send a B team of engineers to continue work on 2022 and prove to me it's worth salvaging, perhaps even to take over in the new season.

Quote from: delfastTions on September 23, 2022, 02:11:23 AM

By the way, if we talk about the track in Marina Bay, neither Verstappen nor Red Bull have ever won on it in its history. I wonder if Max's winning streak will be interrupted? Moreover, he has been on the podium as a winner for 5 stages in a row???
By the way, the speed record on this track belongs to Leclerc

Interesting to learn. Time for Leclerc doubling down to keep the season interesting for a little longer? Of course, the only variable we can almost count on is the engine tripping up Wink

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