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nakisama

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on June 25, 2017, 06:43:43 PM

@allthebitandbobs You are not betting against the house at Fairlay. Like on any other exchange most of the bets matched are between users and independent professional market makers. Winners are welcome on Fairlay and we have plenty of them!

the independent professional market makers are working for you, no?
Why each time I want to take the odds and currently available amount in the market i get the message "odds just changed"?

And even in this situation, why do you make a refund of my funds used to placed that bet instead of leaving my bet available in the market?
Am I not supposed to do market making since I would be competition to the professional market makers?

I like you guys but you still have a lot of things you need to improve.
My opinion is that sports betting is HUGE, more that forecasting events and you could get a lot of attention if you take opinions into account.

allthebitandbobs

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on June 25, 2017, 06:43:43 PM

@allthebitandbobs You are not betting against the house at Fairlay. Like on any other exchange most of the bets matched are between users and independent professional market makers. Winners are welcome on Fairlay and we have plenty of them!

My bad i am still getting use to the site Wink

.Site pretty complicated for a new user but i figure out why i couldn't adjust the odds that why i taught it was fixed odds against the house Grin

.Still haven't got laying odds down yet .I manage to match my own bet on one market how ever i did it Tongue

.Looking forward to really getting the hang of things

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@allthebitandbobs You are not betting against the house at Fairlay. Like on any other exchange most of the bets matched are between users and independent professional market makers. Winners are welcome on Fairlay and we have plenty of them!

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@allthebitandbobs

We are a little bit behind schedule with the new site, where we will have those terms stated.

Regarding soccer / horse racing: Thank you for posting this here. These markets are still covered, however one of our major market makers is currently not posting any orders. We will post an update as soon as we have it.

allthebitandbobs

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Just starting betting on the site .Kinda disappointing it is not a true exchange yet i am still betting against the house.Intrested in setting up a few new markets not entirely sure my ones fall under news due

Quote from: FairlaySupport on June 19, 2017, 02:42:08 PM

This is the first time we ever asked anyone for KYC documents. This was not intended when we first started Fairlay, but our legal counsel strongly advised us to do it in this particular case. There is very strong evidence, that the funds are coming from illegimate sources. We do not want to reveal too much details about it. Just note, that among other reasons the user deposited / withdrew funds like 50 times without making any bet.

IT a strange case Guys sounds kinda dumb depositing funds what i assume from a dark market into a betting site directly Roll Eyes

.I guess i cant blame you guys for trying to cover your ass encase u get charge or get yourself into hotwater over it .IT does however open a can of worms however .Maybe u guys should put a disclaimer saying please dont deposit darknet funds directly into are site .Any such activity will force us to hold your funds until we get documentation .That should fix the problem .

masterzino

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Hello,

What happens with the Horse Race markets? Currently the whole tab is empty.
Are you discontinuing them or this is just a temporary? And do you have any plans to introduce UK Greyhounds and US Horses?

Thank you.

Nirvana25

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I am excited and tomorrow I am going to make my first bet on this site, Hope this will be very very great experience for me.

Crypto.Conyo

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Hello,
I'm experiencing the lack of the "Against" quotes for almost any football match. I'm talking about the outcomes for "Match" events.
This is not limited to minor events, but it's almost true for all football matches.
Any reason for this?
Tnx.

betg

newbie

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@fairlay any news? how can we fix that? I'm not gonna send ID or "detailed signed document documenting the source of the funds you deposited to Fairlay" because something like this is impossible to show IMO.

betg

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I had instant deposits and withdrawals here so why I would not do this if this is acceptable please tell me? You have instant withdrawal system then You say oh wait You have to play xxx before withdraw - OK now I see but locking me and telling me to prove source of the funds - what this really means?
@faita: now You know why... I don't want to have money on bitcoin sportsbook when they can anytime dissapear or lock account like they did anytime.
How can I prove the source of the funds? I don't know what are You talking about fairlay... iven if You say it's mixing anything it means just pay me lock me or do anything You want because I won't continue here for sure but I want just my deposit back - I accept it to be sent to the address which I have used to deposit.
Thanks

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Quote from: betg on June 20, 2017, 02:32:01 AM

Hello,
I have exactly said them the same - if You don't accept deposit/withdraw (instant) to other address just fix Your withdrawals to be done to the same address and I'm ok or pay me, ban me and I won't use Your service anymore.
How to prove the source of funds just tell me? And the address which You have sent me (1 of a 1000? which I used) which I cannot iven find... and I have to prove the source of funds there?? wow... impossible imo!
To the all: I have been betting with them like 50-100 btcs (estimating) and cashed out same without problems, last ones (deposits/withdrawals) was indeed without betting and was always to the new address as I never use same address twice... was hoping for surebets but their odds changed too fast and I cannot bet so I just withdraw. Finally I made 1 btc depo and withdraw same (20-30 times it worked) this time they banned and asked for something which i just CANNOT prove.

The total volume before April 15th was less than 14 BTC.

After April 15th the user sent more than 50 deposits to Fairlay while making only one bet. There is further strong evidence, that the user tried to use Fairlay for illegimate purposes and this is why we requested KYC documents in order to not violate AML laws.

faitaccompli

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If you are surebetting, then why would you constantly deposit and withdrawal? Deposits take time to confirm so you're talking at least 10-20 minutes before you can actually use the btc. Arbs can be available for literally seconds so if that's what you're going for, it makes no sense to be constantly depositing and withdrawing instead of leaving the money in the account so it is quickly available to bet.

thegreen

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Quote from: betg on June 20, 2017, 02:32:01 AM

Hello,
I have exactly said them the same - if You don't accept deposit/withdraw (instant) to other address just fix Your withdrawals to be done to the same address and I'm ok or pay me, ban me and I won't use Your service anymore.
How to prove the source of funds just tell me? And the address which You have sent me (1 of a 1000? which I used) which I cannot iven find... and I have to prove the source of funds there?? wow... impossible imo!
To the all: I have been betting with them like 50-100 btcs (estimating) and cashed out same without problems, last ones (deposits/withdrawals) was indeed without betting and was always to the new address as I never use same address twice... was hoping for surebets but their odds changed too fast and I cannot bet so I just withdraw. Finally I made 1 btc depo and withdraw same (20-30 times it worked) this time they banned and asked for something which i just CANNOT prove.

Please post your public profile to show your wagers...that will go long way in proving either way

betg

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Hello,
I have exactly said them the same - if You don't accept deposit/withdraw (instant) to other address just fix Your withdrawals to be done to the same address and I'm ok or pay me, ban me and I won't use Your service anymore.
How to prove the source of funds just tell me? And the address which You have sent me (1 of a 1000? which I used) which I cannot iven find... and I have to prove the source of funds there?? wow... impossible imo!
To the all: I have been betting with them like 50-100 btcs (estimating) and cashed out same without problems, last ones (deposits/withdrawals) was indeed without betting and was always to the new address as I never use same address twice... was hoping for surebets but their odds changed too fast and I cannot bet so I just withdraw. Finally I made 1 btc depo and withdraw same (20-30 times it worked) this time they banned and asked for something which i just CANNOT prove.

faitaccompli

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yes but we all know it's not completely anonymous. And this guy wasn't even betting. Regardless, there's obviously a lot more in play here that neither side really wants to reveal so I'm just going to leave it at that.

Tipstar

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Quote from: faitaccompli on June 19, 2017, 08:50:41 PM

Well I've personally never had any issues with withdrawals. Processed in literally seconds with no questions/documents asked. But then again, I actually use the site to make bets and don't use it as a mixer which sounds like what this guy was doing.

Crypto gambling was intended for anonymous use. No questions asked.

But again the Platform cannot stay quite when their system is being abused.

So the proper thing would be to let the user withdraw and ban him from the platform rather than asking for his personal info.

faitaccompli

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yeah soccer is always off the board 2-3 minutes before start. Don't understand it myself and it is a bit annoying but it's just a few minutes so not the worst thing in the world I guess.

BigBoy89

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Im kind of disappointed from your market maker lately. I have 2 issues:

1) Soccer 2 odds, 3 mins before the event, are staying in search, but market is empty when you open it. This makes betting on Soccer 2 on last minutes impossible.

2) Live betting odds are disapering for few minutes after any bet posted. This blocks the option to do a second bet on same live market for few minutes.

faitaccompli

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Well I've personally never had any issues with withdrawals. Processed in literally seconds with no questions/documents asked. But then again, I actually use the site to make bets and don't use it as a mixer which sounds like what this guy was doing.

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Quote from: FairlaySupport on June 19, 2017, 02:42:08 PM

This is the first time we ever asked anyone for KYC documents. This was not intended when we first started Fairlay, but our legal counsel strongly advised us to do it in this particular case. There is very strong evidence, that the funds are coming from illegimate sources. We do not want to reveal too much details about it. Just note, that among other reasons the user deposited / withdrew funds like 50 times without making any bet.

So the guy basically was using your website as a "free" mixer? Basically sent you some BTC and then a few hours later withdrew it to a different address?

Is that why you flagged the account or was it some of his deposit address which came from illegal sources like a Bitfinex account?

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