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fairlay

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Quote from: blueparrot on April 20, 2015, 04:42:38 AM

You should think about offering odds for Russian Premierleague?
Today are several matches and you offer no odds.

I think Russian soccer would be more popular than for example soccer from Denmark
(which you are currently offering).

Pinnacle should have odds for Russian soccer as well.

First one small correction. We never offer odds ourself. The user on our market do it (especially market makers but in principle every user how creates a bet that is not directly matched)

So we offer only the events to bet on and we resolve them and pay the winner. Now your request: The problem is, that the data feed (for match-ups and results) that we use does not offer the Russian Premierleague. We might change or extend to another data source but not in the near future.

Quote from: blueparrot on April 20, 2015, 04:42:38 AM

Additionally I think having 2FA to secure your account would be great.
I know that some people don´t have an account at all, but some prefer the
account solution and would be for sure interested in enhancing account
security.

Sure - security is always important! We already have some form of 2FA since you first need to add a cash-out address and confirm it with your email. That means that an attacker need to get control over both - email and user account. However - what is you concrete suggestion for 2FA. Should we use it only for cash outs or for bets as well. What 2FA method would you prefer?

It would be great if you can add the suggestion here so others can vote for it: https://fairlay.uservoice.com/forums/239705-general

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Quote from: fairlay on April 20, 2015, 12:55:37 AM

We had a anonymous user who got really lucky today. He wanted to place a 132BTC bet on villarreal (vs. cordoba). However - when he send the Bitcoins to the bet address for around 70minutes no block was found. So when the transaction finally was accepted the game already stared and the bet became never active. So this user was lucky and another user who's bet remained unmatched was unlucky.

So obviously it would be nice if we could proceed transactions faster and accept them already with 0 conf. However - we all know that 0 conf transactions are not secure at all but there might be solutions to accept them. One example is greenaddress.it
So our question is how many of you use greenaddress? Is it worth the effort for us to integrate them and allow 0conf transactions from them?

The person was really luck
132 btc is almost close to $30k.
Imagine if he lost $30k in a bet.

tonyq

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Quote from: fairlay on April 20, 2015, 12:55:37 AM

We had a anonymous user who got really lucky today. He wanted to place a 132BTC bet on villarreal (vs. cordoba).

VTC

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Can you please add Total predictions / Total amount / Unmatched to display in the columns for sport events like you have the other events. Also would be nice if these columns were sortable just like the "Closing In" column.

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Quote from: fairlay on April 20, 2015, 12:55:37 AM

So obviously it would be nice if we could proceed transactions faster and accept them already with 0 conf. However - we all know that 0 conf transactions are not secure at all but there might be solutions to accept them. One example is greenaddress.it

I believe it's possible to accept zero confirm transactions with a certain setup. This assumes mining pools are not evil, so this would be up to your personal risk tolerance in you trusting them.

Use a setup such as:
-Accept only standard type transactions
-With fee of at least .0001 or .0001 per 1000 bytes whichever is greater

I recall a gambling site using this setup with no issues to accept instant deposits, but still need a couple of confirmations to withdraw. This setup will prevent a user from sending a transaction to a certain mining pool that doesn't propagate to other pools.

A more advanced method would be to check for the propagation percent like shown on blockchain wallet, but think you need to keep a list of every node and query them. MyCelium and bitpay use zero confirm transactions https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/the-mathematically-secure-way-to-accept-zero-confirmation-transactions/

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Quote from: fairlay on April 20, 2015, 12:55:37 AM

We had a anonymous user who got really lucky today. He wanted to place a 132BTC bet on villarreal (vs. cordoba). However - when he send the Bitcoins to the bet address for around 70minutes no block was found. So when the transaction finally was accepted the game already stared and the bet became never active. So this user was lucky and another user who's bet remained unmatched was unlucky.

So obviously it would be nice if we could proceed transactions faster and accept them already with 0 conf. However - we all know that 0 conf transactions are not secure at all but there might be solutions to accept them. One example is greenaddress.it
So our question is how many of you use greenaddress? Is it worth the effort for us to integrate them and allow 0conf transactions from them?

Yes he is really lucky and if he is going to bet 132BTC on villarreal. He sure lose because the game was draw. And why use greenaddress if you got blockchain to support you since blockchain never had this issue before

blueparrot

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You should think about offering odds for Russian Premierleague?
Today are several matches and you offer no odds.

I think Russian soccer would be more popular than for example soccer from Denmark
(which you are currently offering).

Pinnacle should have odds for Russian soccer as well.

Additionally I think having 2FA to secure your account would be great.
I know that some people don´t have an account at all, but some prefer the
account solution and would be for sure interested in enhancing account
security.

fairlay

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We had a anonymous user who got really lucky today. He wanted to place a 132BTC bet on villarreal (vs. cordoba). However - when he send the Bitcoins to the bet address for around 70minutes no block was found. So when the transaction finally was accepted the game already stared and the bet became never active. So this user was lucky and another user who's bet remained unmatched was unlucky.

So obviously it would be nice if we could proceed transactions faster and accept them already with 0 conf. However - we all know that 0 conf transactions are not secure at all but there might be solutions to accept them. One example is greenaddress.it
So our question is how many of you use greenaddress? Is it worth the effort for us to integrate them and allow 0conf transactions from them?

tonyq

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Quote from: fairlay on April 19, 2015, 01:55:55 PM

Quote from: tonyq on April 19, 2015, 01:48:23 PM

My bet has been settled now....but a long wait.
Why was that Mr Fairlay?
Sad

Hey Tony,

sorry - that just happens from time to time. The settlement is done automatically based on an external data feed. It just happens from time to time that is takes up to several hours until we get the correct data. There is little we can do about it other than choosing a different data feed.

I would berate and then change your current data feed people.
No way, in the year 2015, can they justify taking 3 hours.
It would be faster by carrier pigeon!

fairlay

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Quote from: lucullus on April 19, 2015, 01:46:33 PM

Hello Fairlay I am curious as to what happened to my deposit, please message me

Well - your transaction discovered a bug in the Armory wallet (because it was not detected by it). We credited you a significant higher amount as a compensation but deleted the transaction from our system. The guys from Armory will hopefully fix it soon so that it will not happen again. If it does - we are here to help and to get everything right.

fairlay

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Quote from: tonyq on April 19, 2015, 01:48:23 PM

My bet has been settled now....but a long wait.
Why was that Mr Fairlay?
Sad

Hey Tony,

sorry - that just happens from time to time. The settlement is done automatically based on an external data feed. It just happens from time to time that is takes up to several hours until we get the correct data. There is little we can do about it other than choosing a different data feed.

tonyq

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My bet has been settled now....but a long wait.
Why was that Mr Fairlay?
Because I went all in on the bet I was waiting for it to be graded so I could back Napoli and didn't get to.
And of course.....they won.
Sad

lucullus

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Hello Fairlay I am curious as to what happened to my deposit, please message me

tonyq

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Now getting concerned.
The game finished over 3 hours ago.
Normally graded within 30 minutes.
No response to two emails either.
Embarrassed

tonyq

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Can the Man City v West Ham game be graded please!
It finished quite a while ago now.
Huh

ctlaltdefeat

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Quote from: fairlay on April 13, 2015, 09:55:58 PM

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Quote from: fairlay on April 07, 2015, 05:24:49 PM

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Very nice update @fairlay! However I can't combine "League tags" & "Type tags". Anyway, great site! Keep it up! Your odds are amazing!

Thank you! And thanks for the bug report - should be fixed now.

Cool, thanks. That was fast. I like you site a lot! Looks like I won't need any bookies anymore. Any chance you can add Rugby soon?

Thanks - indeed, this is our clear goal - to be the unquestioned number one for every one who cares about odds. And since the exchange model with 0% fees (at the moment) is already the most favourable for customers we now try to improve everything around it. Reliability of the site, speed of cash outs, user interface. So we are happy to hear feature requests!

Regarding Rugby - we plan to add another sport every 2 week. Since you are the first with a request we will add Rugby next!

eSports next please - the lines on pinnacle for example.
Also, I'd like to have the odds on a page auto refresh.

fairlay

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Quote from: fairlay on April 07, 2015, 05:24:49 PM

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Very nice update @fairlay! However I can't combine "League tags" & "Type tags". Anyway, great site! Keep it up! Your odds are amazing!

Thank you! And thanks for the bug report - should be fixed now.

Cool, thanks. That was fast. I like you site a lot! Looks like I won't need any bookies anymore. Any chance you can add Rugby soon?

Thanks - indeed, this is our clear goal - to be the unquestioned number one for every one who cares about odds. And since the exchange model with 0% fees (at the moment) is already the most favourable for customers we now try to improve everything around it. Reliability of the site, speed of cash outs, user interface. So we are happy to hear feature requests!

Regarding Rugby - we plan to add another sport every 2 week. Since you are the first with a request we will add Rugby next!

lucullus

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The owner gave me 50 mBTC, 5 times my deposit while he finds an answer as to why the deposit was not successful. A part of his message;

"We have not figured out yet what is going on with this transaction. All the deposits are going directly to our cold wallet. And we have a armory watch only wallet running that should detect any incoming transactions. For some yet unknown reasons it did not detect your transaction. If we specifically ask the armory wallet for your transaction we get this message: "-ERROR - 1428609000: (BlockUtils.cpp:5808) Requested txref not on main chain (BH dupID is diff)".
We already are in contact with the Armory developers but it can take some time to fix this issue."

ctlaltdefeat

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The owner has personally sent me 2BTC (when the price in USD was a lot higher) when my email account was compromised and due to miscommunication a withdrawal was made from Fairlay to the wrong address.
So I highly doubt he would take off after your 0.01 deposit.

lucullus

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The deposit still has not shown up but I doubt this book is a scam like I said. I apologize for that. Ive messaged the owner and hopefully we can sort this issue out

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