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Quote from: Bitinity on November 21, 2022, 05:37:31 AM

Quote from: Slow death on November 20, 2022, 09:29:49 AM

offering faucet will only bankrupt the casino, you can see that until 5 years ago there were many faucet sites so why today we have few faucet sites?

I dont think faucet will bankrupt the casino as long as the casino knows how to offer it effectively. Not all players in the casino claim the faucet all the time, who on earth will do claim small faucet all the time? The current situation where there are few casinos with faucet is that it is no longer effective promotion/marketing tool. Other reason can be because of the big number of abuse in the past when many abusers tried to make money from faucet with no intention to gamble at all.

They are a business and not a charity which it would really be just normal that they would really be setting out limitations and restrictions for these bonuses or faucets to be abused.They arent new into the business
or industry on which it would be understandable that they cant just let it happen on letting people do claim endlessly which is really a huge expense for their part.
We cant really deny that there are really people who do tend or try to abuse faucets but it is really just that standard that there would be limits on claims
+ having that protection against bots which is really that typical security that would be set out.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on November 21, 2022, 07:31:03 AM

I have been involved in crypto gambling and the faucets provided are quite good, I think it is enough to grow it using their platform. I'm saving up somehow. Then there are many crypto faucets that you can have for free, the only interval before you get faucets is about 5 mins.

Now, when you get all the assets that the gambling site is giving away, you are obliged to match them because you can only get faucets again when the balance is exhausted. But few crypto gambling does this and I think this is the only one doing it at the moment.

Grow what, your faucet balance? But, I think that was illegal and you will be tagged as a faucet farmer but what are your plans once you have accumulated sufficient amounts. Will you withdraw it immediately? Or you will use it for gambling? But, even if you will use it for gambling, your chances of winning are now going to be being increased.

This is the reason why most faucets that we see inside the casino have a limit or you can only claim once your balance are already zero. My advice for you mate is just go on a regular faucet site because you are free there to save your faucet claims. Just don't use multiple accounts or do other strange acts for you to be safe.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 05, 2022, 01:31:18 AM

Quote from: Reatim on November 04, 2022, 11:04:05 PM

also faucet nowadays had been the starting point of casino sites to try luring players , caring nothing about the cheating because they can automatically hold or banned the account whenever they wanted .

and also faucet mostly favoring the site for the winning is just a little chance that losing unless there is an error in their settings .

But even though casinos can use faucets to attract players, not many casinos still have this faucet facility and they tend to provide other bonuses that are expected to bring in more players. Maybe they can learn from past mistakes because the faucet can attract many players to cheat to get more rewards from the faucet.

The prizes from the current faucets are also very small but maybe that's enough to start gambling, especially if we want to know the performance of the casinos that still have these faucets.

- You are right in what you said, I have been involved in crypto gambling and the faucets provided are quite good, I think it is enough to grow it using their platform. I'm saving up somehow. Then there are many crypto faucets that you can have for free, the only interval before you get faucets is about 5 mins.

Now, when you get all the assets that the gambling site is giving away, you are obliged to match them because you can only get faucets again when the balance is exhausted. But few crypto gambling does this and I think this is the only one doing it at the moment.

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Quote from: Bitinity on November 21, 2022, 05:37:31 AM

Quote from: Slow death on November 20, 2022, 09:29:49 AM

offering faucet will only bankrupt the casino, you can see that until 5 years ago there were many faucet sites so why today we have few faucet sites?

I dont think faucet will bankrupt the casino as long as the casino knows how to offer it effectively. Not all players in the casino claim the faucet all the time, who on earth will do claim small faucet all the time? The current situation where there are few casinos with faucet is that it is no longer effective promotion/marketing tool. Other reason can be because of the big number of abuse in the past when many abusers tried to make money from faucet with no intention to gamble at all.

Yeah, probably in this era, I don't think that abusers of faucets can bankrupt a casino. But it could be true in the old days as there are no safety nets and probably casino are not equipped to deal with bonus farmings and other exploits that early gamblers used.

There could still be some sites that have faucets, not sure though, if I remember correctly, I used a sites like 2019 for faucets to just play again and again. But I grew tired of faucets.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 20, 2022, 09:29:49 AM

offering faucet will only bankrupt the casino, you can see that until 5 years ago there were many faucet sites so why today we have few faucet sites?

I dont think faucet will bankrupt the casino as long as the casino knows how to offer it effectively. Not all players in the casino claim the faucet all the time, who on earth will do claim small faucet all the time? The current situation where there are few casinos with faucet is that it is no longer effective promotion/marketing tool. Other reason can be because of the big number of abuse in the past when many abusers tried to make money from faucet with no intention to gamble at all.

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What about guys like me who haven't played in a year or 2, but already have leveled as a customer. Should we get to keep our faucet money? And what if we win big what should happen them. Technically i am doing the same thing, but as i once was a loyal customer. How should they treat my leeching from faucets?

I am referring to my post at Betfury thread

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on November 19, 2022, 04:26:32 PM

^I don't think there are gambling casinos now that we can do farming bonuses and faucets, they are very wise at this day because they know already that possible abuse when there is a bonus.

in my opinion faucets are a loss for casinos, let's imagine that even if each person claims 1 satoshi per hour, if in a casino they have 50,000 people claim the faucet then we would have 50,000 satoshi every 1 hour, the casino would be bankrupt in a short time, faucets have not been profitable for years, at least they are not very profitable, if casinos are offering people the option to claim to play in the casino then maybe it would be different, but we all know that people claim fautes to withdraw later

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I agree,I believe that casino earning everyday is big so that even though they will give more and more free faucets each day or give a bonus farming still then can earn more...

offering faucet will only bankrupt the casino, you can see that until 5 years ago there were many faucet sites so why today we have few faucet sites? the answer is quite simple: because the faucet sites were not profitable anymore, even they lowering the amount that people could claim still it was not profitable, the casinos also won't have magic wand to make faucet profitable, maybe i'm wrong here, but in my opinion it is better for casinos to offer bonuses than to offer faucets. the welcome bonus, the bonus that comes with the various types of accounts like vip accounts, the monthly and weekly bonuses, this is already something good and enough that people should be grateful for

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Quote from: Reatim on November 10, 2022, 12:56:14 AM

and that is what we called Business in Gambling , the company will do anything to lure players and deposit money , no matter how they offer for us but the main goal is to take our money while letting us enjoy the element of losing.
always the same scenario , gamblers are loser and the operator always takes the money from our pocket.

I agree,I believe that casino earning everyday is big so that even though they will give more and more free faucets each day or give a bonus farming still then can earn more, there will be a different scenario if it became a problem but it will be less likely to happen. They will create different bonuses and giveaways for them to get their customer's trust and also they want us to gamble more believing we're just gambling with small amount using wherein it is a lie.

^I don't think there are gambling casinos now that we can do farming bonuses and faucets, they are very wise at this day because they know already that possible abuse when there is a bonus. If we noticed it usually has requirements before you can initiate a withdrawal, the wager, and the minimum amount requirements of withdrawing funds. So it is impossible to abuse an old casino. Not like a new one that probably does not know yet about this marketing that there is possible abuse. However, some casinos offer this because of the marketing strategy to lure gamblers.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on November 19, 2022, 02:18:33 PM

Quote from: dothebeats on November 06, 2022, 04:51:34 PM

Quote from: o48o on November 05, 2022, 06:40:46 AM

Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

So, what do you think about this?

As i just talked with one of these cases who got their account frozen, i actually just went and read terms and faqs from few casinos about this and couldn't find anything on how they deal with people who don't deposit anything but use just try to get free money via faucets.

At the moment they don't really need to care, as frozing those accounts doesn't even raise any red flags with actual paying customers. It's not like they stole from people who deposited, that indeed would raise concerns, not this.

Personally i see this as non-issue, because i see no real victims here, more like annoyance of spending their time doing something bots would do.

Well at least they should be upfront and clear about this and update their terms and conditions to to state their policy on these kind of users.

Casinos will only use the banhammer on those who do this AND actually gets something from it. Considering how little the amount is that they're giving out anyways, they wouldn't make their platform look so bad by placing things against these people on their ToS. It would have been rather annoying at first but most of the people who does this don't even get anything from the casino anyway, plus the wagering requirements before one can withdraw those amount will be hard to reach.

I see that the only platform that allows doing something like this is freebitco.in and they have never raised a problem for it, because the demands are so high that they do not worry if a person is 24 hours a day giving the faucet, because they know that at a certain moment those people will get tired and the effort will be a lot for such a small reward, I think this is something that we all know, I don't know if a casino wastes time freezing an account, because of many bots I don't think it's something convenient Unless there are thousands and thousands of accounts that do something like this, it would take thousands and thousands of PCs with activated accounts without any type of captcha.

I havent tested or tried Freebitco for so long if they have made out some changes on faucet claims but as far im that aware which it does have some captcha to solve on claiming out faucet for sure.

They cant just letthose abusers do claim on unlimited manner or on fast pace.For sure they are still minding out to have some control over bots considering on how these things could really affect it out at least.

Yes,it does involved small amounts if we do talk about faucet but we cant really just ignore the fact that there are ones who do spend their
time on believing that they could really take advantage from it.

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Quote from: dothebeats on November 06, 2022, 04:51:34 PM

Quote from: o48o on November 05, 2022, 06:40:46 AM

Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

So, what do you think about this?

As i just talked with one of these cases who got their account frozen, i actually just went and read terms and faqs from few casinos about this and couldn't find anything on how they deal with people who don't deposit anything but use just try to get free money via faucets.

At the moment they don't really need to care, as frozing those accounts doesn't even raise any red flags with actual paying customers. It's not like they stole from people who deposited, that indeed would raise concerns, not this.

Personally i see this as non-issue, because i see no real victims here, more like annoyance of spending their time doing something bots would do.

Well at least they should be upfront and clear about this and update their terms and conditions to to state their policy on these kind of users.

Casinos will only use the banhammer on those who do this AND actually gets something from it. Considering how little the amount is that they're giving out anyways, they wouldn't make their platform look so bad by placing things against these people on their ToS. It would have been rather annoying at first but most of the people who does this don't even get anything from the casino anyway, plus the wagering requirements before one can withdraw those amount will be hard to reach.

I see that the only platform that allows doing something like this is freebitco.in and they have never raised a problem for it, because the demands are so high that they do not worry if a person is 24 hours a day giving the faucet, because they know that at a certain moment those people will get tired and the effort will be a lot for such a small reward, I think this is something that we all know, I don't know if a casino wastes time freezing an account, because of many bots I don't think it's something convenient Unless there are thousands and thousands of accounts that do something like this, it would take thousands and thousands of PCs with activated accounts without any type of captcha.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I just want to ask you, Sir, you said you saw two casinos that locked user's accounts, are these accounts on the two casino platforms you mention the same accounts you tried to create on their website? You probably wouldn't know this if you didn't create an account yourself, right?

But you know Sir, sometimes that's what I was wondering, they make faucets and do a gambler's technique to grow it, the house edge sees it, they suddenly close the account, and I think it's work that It's different from other gambling platforms here in cryptocurrency.

In these gambling platforms, they should also show what a gambler should not do, not when they release a large amount of money on their platform and suddenly close the player's accounts.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on October 28, 2022, 10:36:32 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on October 26, 2022, 03:11:28 AM

Quote from: Solosanz on October 26, 2022, 12:06:08 AM

It's better if the casino stop to add faucet from top crypto and just use testnet coin or coin without any value at all, so if there's a gambler who want to test the casino, they can use that and it's wasting times if they play with worthless coin. This will prevent about faucet and bonus farming from those fraudster who want to take advantage about faucet and bonus. I think few casinos already using their own coin without any value to test their casino.

It is already in the process since few years ago. Nowadays only few new casinos provide faucet, most old and trusted casino do not provide faucet anymore and they replace it with other things. In my opinion, one time bonus is better for new sites to attract users if the main purpose is to give new players free money to test the game.

There was a time in which most casinos had faucets and they accepted that some of their users did not deposited any money and simply used the money they got from faucets to gamble, as they were expecting for those people to eventually make a deposit with them.

But times have changed, and now it is rare to see casinos offering faucets as they know they will open a can of worms if they do so, as some users may try to abuse the faucet and claim from it with multiple accounts.

Well, there is a casino that still has its faucet working and you don't even need a deposit to play, with what they give you there is enough to play, it's freebitco.in, it's a platform that has grown so much that they don't take into account if they create many accounts, the work that has to be done is so long and so repetitive that it is not a business for the abusers, because it is very difficult for them, every hour to be claiming sats, the same platform allows anyone to play, it is the only way that they can multiply their balance, currently with sports betting as well, and a very interesting fact is that there the account is also used as a wallet and they do not ask for KYC.

It should be noted that this was the platform with which I started this whole adventure, I remember that later I discovered Primedice and Stake.com, Primedice for the fact that it is a super exciting dice game, and I was one of those who was always waiting to hit the Roll every hour, it didn't hit him when he slept, they were great times.

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Quote from: blockman on November 05, 2022, 05:14:24 AM

Quote from: Reatim on November 04, 2022, 11:04:05 PM

also faucet nowadays had been the starting point of casino sites to try luring players , caring nothing about the cheating because they can automatically hold or banned the account whenever they wanted .

Not just nowadays but even before, we've seen a lot of popular casinos today that have been known because of the faucets. And eventually, they've became strict when abusers have found it as a source of huge money for them even if they exert a lot of effort.

Quote from: Reatim on November 04, 2022, 11:04:05 PM

and also faucet mostly favoring the site for the winning is just a little chance that losing unless there is an error in their settings .

It's favoring the site because they own it and that's why if there are abusers or cheaters that have been caught and they're complaining, they have got nothing against them specially if they're proven that they're abusing the system.

and that is what we called Business in Gambling , the company will do anything to lure players and deposit money , no matter how they offer for us but the main goal is to take our money while letting us enjoy the element of losing.
always the same scenario , gamblers are loser and the operator always takes the money from our pocket.

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Quote from: o48o on November 05, 2022, 06:40:46 AM

Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

So, what do you think about this?

As i just talked with one of these cases who got their account frozen, i actually just went and read terms and faqs from few casinos about this and couldn't find anything on how they deal with people who don't deposit anything but use just try to get free money via faucets.

At the moment they don't really need to care, as frozing those accounts doesn't even raise any red flags with actual paying customers. It's not like they stole from people who deposited, that indeed would raise concerns, not this.

Personally i see this as non-issue, because i see no real victims here, more like annoyance of spending their time doing something bots would do.

Well at least they should be upfront and clear about this and update their terms and conditions to to state their policy on these kind of users.

Casinos will only use the banhammer on those who do this AND actually gets something from it. Considering how little the amount is that they're giving out anyways, they wouldn't make their platform look so bad by placing things against these people on their ToS. It would have been rather annoying at first but most of the people who does this don't even get anything from the casino anyway, plus the wagering requirements before one can withdraw those amount will be hard to reach.

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Quote from: Maestro75 on November 05, 2022, 02:49:44 AM

I have claimed on faucet sites and there were restrictions on what tokens to claim at certain duration. Some make it like five tokens daily even if there are countless of tokens there. Now tell me why a casino can not do same if it think it is going to be a crime, than allow gamblers play them and then use it against them?

So casinos have to set limits for faucets to avoid problems with faucet facilities because users can't use above the set limits, so I've never come across a case of account freeze just because users can abuse faucets but if the casino can confirm it then the user deserves to be locked out because he might use bots to exploit bugs from faucets.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

People will always abuse ways of earning especially if it comes with little to no price. Faucets and Bonuses from gambling sites have been the prime victim of these types of acts in the crypto gambling industry since time immemorial, but along with the people in this thread I stand with the notion that it is the casino's fault for not imposing contingency measures against situations like these, whether incidental or a voluntary negligence on their end. Moving forward, I am not saying abusing of bonuses and faucets available in gambling sites are a good thing. It's just the normal course of action for most people, and crypto casinos should know this more than anyone.

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Quote from: madnessteat on November 05, 2022, 03:08:32 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 05, 2022, 01:31:18 AM

Quote from: Reatim on November 04, 2022, 11:04:05 PM

also faucet nowadays had been the starting point of casino sites to try luring players , caring nothing about the cheating because they can automatically hold or banned the account whenever they wanted .

and also faucet mostly favoring the site for the winning is just a little chance that losing unless there is an error in their settings .

But even though casinos can use faucets to attract players, not many casinos still have this faucet facility and they tend to provide other bonuses that are expected to bring in more players. Maybe they can learn from past mistakes because the faucet can attract many players to cheat to get more rewards from the faucet.

The prizes from the current faucets are also very small but maybe that's enough to start gambling, especially if we want to know the performance of the casinos that still have these faucets.

Personally, I do not see the point of using cranes as casino owners and users. This trend was relevant a few years ago, but now it is a waste of time.

In my opinion, expecting to get rich on cranes as much mistakenly as to think that you can get rich participating in airdrop, which do not require any investment.

I believe that if a person doesn't have the free money to play in a casino, he doesn't belong there.

But at the very least, one can start playing at the casino and get a feel for the gambling experience and it can make them to try to deposit the minimum amount required to continue playing again. If they keep using that faucet for free money, that's also okay because the casino provides that feature for its members. Unless they tried to break the rules, that wouldn't give them a chance to do so.

Getting rich from the faucet today is very difficult because the reward factor is different from the past, so we should forget about it. But we can still get rewards from faucets in some casinos so we can still use them to play gambling. That's even if we don't want to deposit some money to play using real money.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

So, what do you think about this?

As i just talked with one of these cases who got their account frozen, i actually just went and read terms and faqs from few casinos about this and couldn't find anything on how they deal with people who don't deposit anything but use just try to get free money via faucets.

At the moment they don't really need to care, as frozing those accounts doesn't even raise any red flags with actual paying customers. It's not like they stole from people who deposited, that indeed would raise concerns, not this.

Personally i see this as non-issue, because i see no real victims here, more like annoyance of spending their time doing something bots would do.

Well at least they should be upfront and clear about this and update their terms and conditions to to state their policy on these kind of users.

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Quote from: Reatim on November 04, 2022, 11:04:05 PM

also faucet nowadays had been the starting point of casino sites to try luring players , caring nothing about the cheating because they can automatically hold or banned the account whenever they wanted .

Not just nowadays but even before, we've seen a lot of popular casinos today that have been known because of the faucets. And eventually, they've became strict when abusers have found it as a source of huge money for them even if they exert a lot of effort.

Quote from: Reatim on November 04, 2022, 11:04:05 PM

and also faucet mostly favoring the site for the winning is just a little chance that losing unless there is an error in their settings .

It's favoring the site because they own it and that's why if there are abusers or cheaters that have been caught and they're complaining, they have got nothing against them specially if they're proven that they're abusing the system.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 05, 2022, 01:31:18 AM

Quote from: Reatim on November 04, 2022, 11:04:05 PM

also faucet nowadays had been the starting point of casino sites to try luring players , caring nothing about the cheating because they can automatically hold or banned the account whenever they wanted .

and also faucet mostly favoring the site for the winning is just a little chance that losing unless there is an error in their settings .

But even though casinos can use faucets to attract players, not many casinos still have this faucet facility and they tend to provide other bonuses that are expected to bring in more players. Maybe they can learn from past mistakes because the faucet can attract many players to cheat to get more rewards from the faucet.

The prizes from the current faucets are also very small but maybe that's enough to start gambling, especially if we want to know the performance of the casinos that still have these faucets.

Personally, I do not see the point of using cranes as casino owners and users. This trend was relevant a few years ago, but now it is a waste of time.

In my opinion, expecting to get rich on cranes as much mistakenly as to think that you can get rich participating in airdrop, which do not require any investment.

I believe that if a person doesn't have the free money to play in a casino, he doesn't belong there.

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