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Quote from: iv4n on October 23, 2022, 02:16:58 PM

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Quote from: babygun on October 23, 2022, 10:33:44 AM

When there is free money involved, some people will always try to abuse the system so it is pretty normal that casinos block users who they know that cheat or abuse. When I have time, I also claim some faucets but that's about it.

That's true, no matter how much it is as long as it's free money, many will come to take it.
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We all love "free money"! But it's not about that, it's about farming and abusing "free money"! We all have fun with bonuses and faucets, it's a low amount but there's always something to gamble with. If we are fair and we respect some rules there will be no problem. Some people (or to say a group of people?!) take this to another level, they intentionally create more accounts, they use bots, or whatever it's necessary for claiming "free coins"! And when they are doing this stuff with many accounts I guess there's some money in that, why would they do that if not?!

When there's a user that abuses it, then it's a different thing to discuss with. Those abusers deserve nothing but to have an absolutely ban from that casino that they're abusing.

Quote from: iv4n on October 23, 2022, 02:16:58 PM

It's why we need to take all complaints with some reserve... I don't have a feeling that accounts are being locked so easily, from my experience, as a fair player I never had any problems, and I claim "free coins" and bonuses whenever I meet requirements.

I agree to you about this one. There have been threads of complaints that they've been banned and locked so easy.

But when a representative of that casino that they're complaining about comes to explain everything, it becomes clear that there are valid reasons why they've done that to those users.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

Sometimes there are flaws in the system, however, instead of abusing it, users should at least notify the site about the bug.

Besides, not all users are having such actions and just doing the usual way of claiming in the faucets. Therefore, those who are aware of the bug are taking advantage of the situation which is already considered as "cheating".

Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

As long as that "smart way" is not considered a form of cheating or related activity, then they are good to go.

In the case of withdrawals being blocked, the site should explain clearly why it happened.

Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

Just for reference as I missed it, may I know what casinos you are referring to?

Just want to see the details of their respective cases so I can give a proper response on this thread about the subject.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

I think the online casino needs to improve, or even learn from other online casino sites, which allow users to get a free faucet on condition that the balance in the wallet is empty, so that is fair enough for the users. And if the thing you mention happens to you, you should make a post or make a reply to their thread (if their manager is on the forum), if it's not on this forum, then you should make a post or thread to be an experience lesson for many people.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on October 23, 2022, 02:39:02 PM

Quote from: iv4n on October 23, 2022, 02:16:58 PM

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Quote from: babygun on October 23, 2022, 10:33:44 AM

When there is free money involved, some people will always try to abuse the system so it is pretty normal that casinos block users who they know that cheat or abuse. When I have time, I also claim some faucets but that's about it.

That's true, no matter how much it is as long as it's free money, many will come to take it.
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It's why we need to take all complaints with some reserve... I don't have a feeling that accounts are being locked so easily, from my experience, as a fair player I never had any problems, and I claim "free coins" and bonuses whenever I meet requirements.

You are absolutely correct, I in person have been gambling for some years now, though not actively, but I do sometimes gamble ones or twice a week, I claim free coin from faucet a times too, I do get some bonuses, in all this and in all this years, non of my gambling accounts have ever been locked or restricted.
This is why I agree with you that complaints about account locked or restrictions should be sometimes treated with some reservations, cus some gamblers really can abuse free stuff and that is why most times, they end up having issue with account used for the abuse.

Most of the time, the casino found the user to create multi-accounts, hence blocking their withdrawals.
If you will just keep up with the terms of the casino, I also don't think you will be banned or blocked.
Users experiencing such treatment from the casino know what they violated.
Because it is hard to abuse those faucets or bonuses, if you will only have one account.
Aside from that, you only have so much time to claim from those faucets.
But if you think, you haven't violated in any of their terms, you can always complain or ask for help from this forum about your withdrawals.

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Quote from: iv4n on October 23, 2022, 02:16:58 PM

Quote from: livingfree on October 23, 2022, 01:33:20 PM

Quote from: babygun on October 23, 2022, 10:33:44 AM

When there is free money involved, some people will always try to abuse the system so it is pretty normal that casinos block users who they know that cheat or abuse. When I have time, I also claim some faucets but that's about it.

That's true, no matter how much it is as long as it's free money, many will come to take it.
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It's why we need to take all complaints with some reserve... I don't have a feeling that accounts are being locked so easily, from my experience, as a fair player I never had any problems, and I claim "free coins" and bonuses whenever I meet requirements.

You are absolutely correct, I in person have been gambling for some years now, though not actively, but I do sometimes gamble ones or twice a week, I claim free coin from faucet a times too, I do get some bonuses, in all this and in all this years, non of my gambling accounts have ever been locked or restricted.
This is why I agree with you that complaints about account locked or restrictions should be sometimes treated with some reservations, cus some gamblers really can abuse free stuff and that is why most times, they end up having issue with account used for the abuse.

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Quote from: livingfree on October 23, 2022, 01:33:20 PM

Quote from: babygun on October 23, 2022, 10:33:44 AM

When there is free money involved, some people will always try to abuse the system so it is pretty normal that casinos block users who they know that cheat or abuse. When I have time, I also claim some faucets but that's about it.

That's true, no matter how much it is as long as it's free money, many will come to take it.
...

We all love "free money"! But it's not about that, it's about farming and abusing "free money"! We all have fun with bonuses and faucets, it's a low amount but there's always something to gamble with. If we are fair and we respect some rules there will be no problem. Some people (or to say a group of people?!) take this to another level, they intentionally create more accounts, they use bots, or whatever it's necessary for claiming "free coins"! And when they are doing this stuff with many accounts I guess there's some money in that, why would they do that if not?!

It's why we need to take all complaints with some reserve... I don't have a feeling that accounts are being locked so easily, from my experience, as a fair player I never had any problems, and I claim "free coins" and bonuses whenever I meet requirements.

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Quote from: babygun on October 23, 2022, 10:33:44 AM

When there is free money involved, some people will always try to abuse the system so it is pretty normal that casinos block users who they know that cheat or abuse. When I have time, I also claim some faucets but that's about it.

That's true, no matter how much it is as long as it's free money, many will come to take it.

If there's an abuse that's happening, they have the right to do proper actions from those users and if they see no activities from them aside from just claiming faucets and bonuses, they'll have to block them because it doesn't have any contribution to their profits.

And if they're being nice to these people, they'll disallow them with the faucet claiming and bonuses and will still allow them to gamble instead.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

If the user is using a single account and staying within the bounds of the rules, then generally there will be no problem. However from the casinos perspective if a user is just "farming" freebies and disappearing with money, in comparison to players who are profitable to them, they'll likely try to stamp out this behavior in the long term. Such accounts usually get restricted or at least any offers will not be eligible for such a user in future. Sometimes you get notified when this happens, other times you will not even know about missing future offers from your account. It's bad business to block such players entirely, but all free offers might be cut off at a certain point.

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Quote from: crwth on October 23, 2022, 10:38:50 AM

How do they claim so much? I remember on my online accounts, the bonuses I get are only once; if I still don't use it, it doesn't replenish immediately. Does having a high-level account on the casino site somewhat factor into it?

I thought it was like the bonuses on the deposits as well. It would help if you played with the balance first; then, you would be able to utilize it and then withdraw.

Probably we are talking about some accounting errors that allow you to get the same bonus more times than was intended by the organizers. If we are talking about faucets and the like, then there users abuse them with the help of bots and various software that creates fake users 24/7 who in turn get paid for actions/requests.
In fact, this has long been an unpopular topic, since bots mainly work on both sides - one side creates fake users, and the other weeds them out.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

But as per their terms the casino has the rights to change their policies at anytime which I am not saying is completely right but they should accept their flaws of their system atleast give some reward if not possible to give everything may keep their dignity and reputation. Unless if they blocked thebuser completely and throwed the users will backfire them at some point which will result in lose of customer satisfaction and losing their profit value.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

Lets put it this way. If a hacker finds a loophole on a banks website and finds a way to transfer users fund from one account to another.
Should the bank not restrict/freeze the hackers account or his IP or should they wait for a fix to be deployed on the banks site and allow the hacker to keep stealing the funds.
I think this is the same case here. If there are loop holes on the gambling site then they should take whatever action is necessary to prevent the misuse.

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Quote from: coin-investor on October 23, 2022, 08:33:28 AM

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Both casinos have addressed the issue and there's manipulation and abuse if you're going to claim bonuses and faucets be sure to be on the safe side, casinos will not let you abuse, creating multiple accounts and manipulation will get your account blocked and your money confiscated...

I know the rules about multiple accounts, i know they aren't allowed, but i'm talking about a user with 1 account claiming all the possible deposit bonus and faucets... I think casinos should allow that, And if they think the users is abusing the system then the engine should block him for getting those bonus. But the fact that the casino blocks the accounts and ask for KYC while they hold the user balance is a cruel way to act, and that could be prevented if the casino engine have some limits set from the start, something like a a preventive measure.

If people will continue to abuse the system, the casino will soon keep their winnings and they needed to complete their KYC, abusing these things will not give us permanent things or comfort, sooner or later the promo and giveaway of that casino might be gone or only a selected kind of winner will gonna receive it, not all can win.

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I am not in a casino nor do I register to playing the faucets, they do not interest me.

They are an old retrograde system that has to disappear or evolve as a royalty system, they also create false traffic to certain casinos, in fact a user who goes to a casino by faucet alone ends up being a "bot" of the casino.

There are the ToC, ir easy simply read them and stick to them.

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Quote from: coin-investor on October 23, 2022, 08:33:28 AM

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Both casinos have addressed the issue and there's manipulation and abuse if you're going to claim bonuses and faucets be sure to be on the safe side, casinos will not let you abuse, creating multiple accounts and manipulation will get your account blocked and your money confiscated...

I know the rules about multiple accounts, i know they aren't allowed, but i'm talking about a user with 1 account claiming all the possible deposit bonus and faucets... I think casinos should allow that, And if they think the users is abusing the system then the engine should block him for getting those bonus. But the fact that the casino blocks the accounts and ask for KYC while they hold the user balance is a cruel way to act, and that could be prevented if the casino engine have some limits set from the start, something like a a preventive measure.

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Quote from: crwth on October 23, 2022, 10:38:50 AM

How do they claim so much? I remember on my online accounts, the bonuses I get are only once; if I still don't use it, it doesn't replenish immediately. Does having a high-level account on the casino site somewhat factor into it?

I thought it was like the bonuses on the deposits as well. It would help if you played with the balance first; then, you would be able to utilize it and then withdraw.

I think he is referring on players that play only with bonuses since casino offers multiple bonus in daily or weekly basis. Some casino offer faucet that replenish every hour. Casino is now monitoring users bonus/faucet activities and track whether they are winning most of the time by using it. This is now punishable by account freeze if casino notice that user is not losing any money and just milking on the casino bonus/faucet.

There are users that only doing it with multiple account and manage to get huge profit if they become lucky on one of there game especially on slot.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

Not only more than 2 casinos but all of the casinos will not allow such act. I don't think the casino will ban those users if they only follow the rules properly but maybe those users literally abused it like they use a VPN or they create another account using a different IP address in order for them to claim again.

The casino didn't steal the money of those who commit that act but it was them abusers who stole money from the casino. The casinos is only confiscating the money that is for them. Those hackers are smart because they can find a way to abuse the casino but that is something that everyone shouldn't be proud of. They better use that kind of knowledge for good.

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Quote from: crwth on October 23, 2022, 10:38:50 AM

How do they claim so much? I remember on my online accounts, the bonuses I get are only once; if I still don't use it, it doesn't replenish immediately. Does having a high-level account on the casino site somewhat factor into it?

I thought it was like the bonuses on the deposits as well. It would help if you played with the balance first; then, you would be able to utilize it and then withdraw.

These factors should also be given some thought and clarification as there are some casinos that provide higher faucet payout on high wagered accounts.

I remember playing on Primedice and seeing a lot of banned accounts for faucet abuse as there are users that will only claim faucet rewards and not gamble at all. There are even bots created for faucet claiming and you'll be able to see the exact pattern when these abusers claim faucet like every 3 mins. Also, selling of high wagered accounts was being done just for faucet purposes as they can claim more sats.

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How do they claim so much? I remember on my online accounts, the bonuses I get are only once; if I still don't use it, it doesn't replenish immediately. Does having a high-level account on the casino site somewhat factor into it?

I thought it was like the bonuses on the deposits as well. It would help if you played with the balance first; then, you would be able to utilize it and then withdraw.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on October 20, 2022, 02:15:45 PM

I have seen more than 2 casinos locking user accounts for this action, and is it really the users fault?

If the users claims tons of faucets or bonus is because the casino engine allows it, and if the casino is losing money with this action they should fix their code to avoid this problem and not steal users money.

The casinos sets the rules of the game, and if a user is smarter enough to find a way to make profit with those rules then they shouldn't block users withdrawals.

So, what do you think about this?

This is true, I remember that I read casino warning in regards with the use of bonus. They strictly noted that they will not allowed users that only play when they are claiming bonus which is unfair in my opinion because they are the one giving it and not limiting user for this reason. They should set a limitation to there promotion to certain user only so that other user will not use it.

Imo this is a very unfair way of casino to rid players that keeps winning using the bonus and retain only those players that keeps losing.

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Quote from: coin-investor on October 23, 2022, 08:33:28 AM

Both casinos have addressed the issue and there's manipulation and abuse if you're going to claim bonuses and faucets be sure to be on the safe side, casinos will not let you abuse, creating multiple accounts and manipulation will get your account blocked and your money confiscated because they have issued these warnings already in their terms of service, I claim on faucets when I have the time but not in any way that will fall to abuse, all casinos watched their members activity and marked those cheaters and abusers.

When there is free money involved, some people will always try to abuse the system so it is pretty normal that casinos block users who they know that cheat or abuse. When I have time, I also claim some faucets but that's about it.

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