Topic: Faucet and Bonus Farming - page 7. (Read 1249 times)

The above is how it should really be, but reality said No.
The first question should be, does the casino believe there are users smarter than them?, I think they don't, and this is the reason why at the sight of an unsual or uncommon kind of winning, they readily get suspicious.

Concerning faucet and bonus,  I think that their way or mechanism they put in place to make new users test out the casino, atleast until the new user settles in and start depositing and gambling on the casino, but when they see an old user using this feature, it appears to them the user is abusing the system, and this is why they sometimes block accounts that are found of abusing the faucet and bonus system.

Those who are banned due to the reason of faucets and bonus farming are often proven to have multiple accounts.  Since the account was found to be exploiting faucets and bonuses, I believe it is right to ban those accounts.  But if ever the account isn't multi-accounting then I think it is unfair to ban the account for that reason.  Since it is a casino offering and the account is just simply taking what is offered and is not exploiting it through multi-account banning the account is unethical.  The casino can just give wagering requirements if they don't want their bonuses to be claimed easily.  



It is a clear exploit and is bannable.

I don't know how a certain user continues receiving bonuses knowing that this is just given only once and mostly during the registration or at your first deposit. Maybe you are talking about creating several accounts just to take advantage of the bonuses and this is also the reason why they got banned. Might not clearly see or read the rules but this is literally against the rules of many casinos. It is not a smart doing, this only means how greedy we are.

I know that I replied 2 days later to answer your question about casinos locking their users account for this reason I think which is the faucet and bonus farming. I am sure that you do know that casino always win and gamblers mostly lose small or huge amount. Having faucet for their gamblers to claim either per day, per hour (after running out of balance) or 10 times a day (can only be claimed if 0 balance) which we can use to try the site without depositing decent amount first. If someone is taking advantage of this then I am sure that the casino owner wouldn't like it. I do agree with the others that casino is not a charity.

The Winz response looks a bit fishy:

Our bonuses are easy to abuse and if we see that the players are using the bonuses to farm funds without any intention to play at Winz.io casino, then these players might be requested to provide the KYC and after that, the access to all future bonuses might also be locked.

So they'll first ask the user for his ID and then block him. If he starts a shit storm at least they'll have his personal info that can be use against him.
They also admit that free-of-wagering bonuses are not really free. They name them this way to attract people but when they claim them them without wagering they get banned.

Faucets and bonuses for promotion only, but if the user can withdraw it should be a good thing for the user but not for the casino. Every time the faucetor wins, the casino tries to find fault the user. But you are right that casinos should give faucets or bonuses with limits not block accounts, except for those people are accounts farmer.

The first case is quite interesting, at least the user can withdraw 6K Doge comfortably. The second case is complicated sir, no comment.

In this very particular case, if a player finds a way to exploit the code then that is the same as if you found a way to steal money from an atm. So why would anyone allow you to keep that money? Seems unfair/illegal to me.

If you are worried about being treated unfairly you can ponder the following:

First, in order to be sure of whats right or wrong I would probably look at your countries laws regarding this and the laws of the country in which the gambling casino is based. Bad Casinos usually like to base themselves in countries with corruption problems and/or lack of gambling regulations.

That makes it much harder to get your money back (if you are indeed dealing with a bad casino).

In the case of good casinos you should try to work it out with the casino. They surely would not want do anything against the law, (like steal your fair-earned money) as registered, licensed casinos.

They're "CASINO", not a charity site.

Faucet & Bonus is only a promotion method for you to play on their site, but while you taking the advantage by multiple-account for the bonus or faucet. It's already stated on the "FAQ", If you abused the platform they have some right to close your account.

If you disagree, then that's why (READ T&C BEFORE REGISTER).

It is the right of the casino to block anyone excessively claiming shit for themselves on the bonuses and faucets and not depositing any amount at all. If free rolls is what you want from a casino, stick with a platform that offers it regularly and READ THE TERMS of the bonus before making a complaint about your funds in the event of a win. Most casinos are pretty lax about it, but once bonuses are abused to the point that a user creates a new account to claim it, well that is something that is no longer acceptable and should have their account banned.

if the casino in their TOS says that if they find out that someone is abusing the bonus or faucet they will have their account blocked then the casino is right to block the account of someone who is abusing the bonus or faucet, but if a person is abusing the bonus it is from the faucet but in the casino there is nothing in the TOS that allows that person's account to be blocked so the casino cannot block the person's account, maybe they can put another measure of punishment and also the casino needs to take measures so that the person's account is not abused bonus and faucet


the point is that the faucet and bonus people don't make much profit to the casino so it's easier for the casino to block their account, but in the case of high rollers who are people who don't make faucet and are more concerned with winning and making a profit the casino will always give special treatment to these people, faucet can be a detriment to the casino


Of course the only culprit is the user, the casino put the faucet so that people can collect coins and have the opportunity to test the casino, but people's ambition leads them to cheat and they don't count that when they close the faucet it will harm other people innocents who don't cheat


people create a lot of accounts just to be able to reach the withdrawal limit quickly. I've seen this a lot in the past when I claimed faucets. I saw people with 30+ accounts cheating and posting the trick on youtube

I wasn't aware about these cases where casinos punished users for farming the faucet, but if it's a concern of casinos they shouldn't allow gamblers to claim from faucet in case their balance is superior to, let's say, 100 satoshis or shouldn't even let them claim from the faucet if they have at least 1 satoshi on their balance.
This way it's not possible for gamblers to farm free money from casinos' faucets in a regular basis, therefore casinos' managers won't have to create any issues with gamblers regards this matter.

For me, I think a casino can only block a user if such person have been found to abuse a bonus or promotion, because it's natural that people loves free money, and many if presented with an opportunity could go an extra mile just to maximize earnings, which is what i have come to notice about majorty of casinos who runs a free faucet. Because in a scenario whereby a user create 10 multiple accounts just for the purpose of claiming daily faucet with the same I.P address, and one day finally caught and all 10 connected accounts blocked. Who is to blame? The user or the casino..

Here the thing is... The casino can set the limits on the code.

If user get a bonus & UserBonus < 10
then UserBonus+1

It's easy on the code to set the limits and if the user don't know those limits how will he know he is doing something bad.


One is wintomato and the other one is winz...

Evidence:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59919331
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60237250

If the casino is having losses due to their player's winnings then they should put limitations or even stop their promotion. Banning or punishing their players will affect their reputation and trust rate. If they want to keep their players, they should value them especially if they are not violating any rules. We can't blame players who are farming bonuses because it's already an open chance to have free play.

Every bonus/faucet has its own terms and conditions, if players break those terms then it is an abuse and the casino has the right to block the players.
Players who find a way to make profit from the bonus/faucet cant be blocked unless the way they use is breaking the rules.
Talking about who is wrong in case players can claim tons of faucet, I'd say both side are wrong.
The casino's fault is about how can they let users to claim tons of faucet, it should be limited.
Player's fault is that if they play solely from the faucet until they can make a withdrawal request without any intention to make deposit.

This often happens in small and new casino sites. They lose over the players because of the bonuses and promotions that they offer but that shouldn't be blamed on the player. They should put control on it instead of punishing the players because players are just grabbing the chances of earning that they offer. If they can't deal with it then they should stop running bonuses that will make players suffer than make a profit in the end.

yes that's what every user must understand before playing read the rules of the casino site before making a fatal mistake, it's also important not to waste time playing and finally not being able to withdraw money from a deposit or from winnings for violating the rules

I think casinos would simply not allow their business to lose in any way. House always win right? Faucets and bonuses are simply for promotional purposes . They might seem to be losing in a way that they are giving it for free but that's how promotion works. They are paying people to make them pay afterwards once these people who recieved free money, become interested with what they are 'selling' or offering to the audiences. Maybe not visible to consumers' perspectives but there are gains by doing so. They won't do it if they will earn nothing from doing so, as simple as that.

Usually casinos do not allow attempts to exploit bugs or flaws even if they are not harmful to the casino itself. I don't know if this is a violation of certain casinos or not, but I think it can be detrimental to the casino so they can consider it suspicious activity.

It could be argued that it was a mistake on the casino's part, but it's good that the player should notify the casino instead of sucking up all the available bonuses or faucets so that it will be fair to other users.

They have every right to close an account that they deemed abusing their faucets or like doing bonus farming, like creating a lot of accounts, anything that will abuse the casinos.

So there is no gray area here, the individual might find success early and if he can withdraw it, then good. But if the casino later found out what you have done, they will immediately lock and close your account and maybe you can ask for the reasons, but I doubt that the casino will give you the exact justification.