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Quote from: efialtis on September 16, 2019, 05:31:03 AM

I was cheering for Argentina, loved them but Spain just has a "winner mentality" and obviously deserved the trophy. Tournament with many surprises and upsets, now cant wait for the Olympics!

But Argentina did their best also but they cannot just win against a powerhouse Spain with lots of NBA players which are tall and can score.
Argentina is also successful in this tournament as people were not expecting they will reach in the Finals, but they wrong us to be wrong..
Expect that they will improve next time as they will learn from their mistakes, they need to invest in players with size and the athleticism so they will be able to compete well with the Spain if they were lucky to be in the Finals again.

Olympics is a different story, it's more prestigious I guess, so I think USA will try to protect their streak of winning the championship.
They have already won 3 consecutive championship in the follower years.

2016 Rio , 2012 London and 2008 Beijing. http://www.iweblists.com/sports/olympics/summer/MensBasketball.html

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I was cheering for Argentina, loved them but Spain just has a "winner mentality" and obviously deserved the trophy. Tournament with many surprises and upsets, now cant wait for the Olympics!

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Quote from: robelneo on September 15, 2019, 10:45:20 PM

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 15, 2019, 02:15:54 PM

Finals match was kind of boring to watch. I was expecting it to be intense like the Australia vs. Spain or close to that level. Kudos to team Spain for shutting down Scola. No doubt that he was the one that drives the Argentina team and when he was unable to produce, his teammates could not step up.

Sad but true... It was sort of one sided and we didn't expected such a match for the final. Afterall, Argentina had performed amazingly so far in this tournament to beat teams such as Serbia and France. I knew that the chances were low, but was still expecting a close fight. In the end what we got was a 20-point defeat against the Spaniards.

As you said, the Spanish were very successful in containing Luis Scola. He is nearing 40 years, and the Spanish took advantage of his age to corner him. But looking back, the Argentines can be proud of their performance in the tournament. No one really expected that they could achieve this much. Anyway, congrats to Spain. Party time for them.

Spain has a very strong showing in this tournament, and I'm sure the US team will mark Spain as their biggest rival, but that is if they can field the best players in their rooster, it's time for the Americans to get that spirit again I remember they were badly beaten in 2004 by Argentina it's time they kindle the spirit of nationality in their campaign.

Spain was rank number 2, so that would tell that it's their closest rival but the USA failed in this tournament and they need to do a better job in the next international competition to reclaim the top spot. Spain showed consistency and their heart in this tournament so they deserved to be the Champion.

All the speculation is gone as we already have the champ, people will not respect USA for not sending their best players, it looks like they are just sending their best players to battle the best teams in the world, and now they have paid their price for underestimating their opponent.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 15, 2019, 09:30:22 PM

Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 15, 2019, 02:15:54 PM

Finals match was kind of boring to watch. I was expecting it to be intense like the Australia vs. Spain or close to that level. Kudos to team Spain for shutting down Scola. No doubt that he was the one that drives the Argentina team and when he was unable to produce, his teammates could not step up.

Sad but true... It was sort of one sided and we didn't expected such a match for the final. Afterall, Argentina had performed amazingly so far in this tournament to beat teams such as Serbia and France. I knew that the chances were low, but was still expecting a close fight. In the end what we got was a 20-point defeat against the Spaniards.

As you said, the Spanish were very successful in containing Luis Scola. He is nearing 40 years, and the Spanish took advantage of his age to corner him. But looking back, the Argentines can be proud of their performance in the tournament. No one really expected that they could achieve this much. Anyway, congrats to Spain. Party time for them.

Spain has a very strong showing in this tournament, and I'm sure the US team will mark Spain as their biggest rival, but that is if they can field the best players in their rooster, it's time for the Americans to get that spirit again I remember they were badly beaten in 2004 by Argentina it's time they kindle the spirit of nationality in their campaign.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 15, 2019, 02:15:54 PM

Finals match was kind of boring to watch. I was expecting it to be intense like the Australia vs. Spain or close to that level. Kudos to team Spain for shutting down Scola. No doubt that he was the one that drives the Argentina team and when he was unable to produce, his teammates could not step up.

Sad but true... It was sort of one sided and we didn't expected such a match for the final. Afterall, Argentina had performed amazingly so far in this tournament to beat teams such as Serbia and France. I knew that the chances were low, but was still expecting a close fight. In the end what we got was a 20-point defeat against the Spaniards.

As you said, the Spanish were very successful in containing Luis Scola. He is nearing 40 years, and the Spanish took advantage of his age to corner him. But looking back, the Argentines can be proud of their performance in the tournament. No one really expected that they could achieve this much. Anyway, congrats to Spain. Party time for them.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 15, 2019, 02:15:54 PM

Finals match was kind of boring to watch. I was expecting it to be intense like the Australia vs. Spain or close to that level. Kudos to team Spain for shutting down Scola. No doubt that he was the one that drives the Argentina team and when he was unable to produce, his teammates could not step up.

I agree. While I'm watching, I didn't felt that I got asleep for a few minutes. That's how boring it is but anyway, we know it already from the start that the Spain has a higher chances of winning. Their defense stepped up and they shut down Scola. I lost few bucks in my bets but its ok Cheesy

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Since the World Cup has been ended, I'm expecting this thread to be locked in a few days Cheesy

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Quote from: inthelongrun on September 15, 2019, 02:24:09 PM

Congratulations on people winning their FIBA finals bets. I'm kind of dissapointed. Argentina lost in what I thought would be a close game. Right from the start old Scola was already handled. The Spaniards defense were superb. The rebounding gap made a huge difference. No country scored 80 or above on Spain. Great team.

Spain showed more competent basketball than Argentina which is the key for them to win especially in rebounding department. The match up also make a difference which the Spain has an upper edge against the Argentinians.

That's were the factor that Argentina is missing, Spain have dominated inside and they dominated the rebounding department because based on the stats there's a big disparity. It's 47 rebounds from the Champ while only 27 for the Argentina, and it's pretty evidence that Argentina struggles to score inside as the Spain has 8 blocks in total.

Argentina's best played Luís Scola struggled a lot in the game, ended up only with 8 which most points are earn in the FT, his shooting is this game is only 1/10 FG ( 1/5 2pts & 0/5 3pts), that's really worst and Spain did a great job on him.

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Wow... Spain smashed Argentina!
They where much better and I must agree that they played best basketball in this world cup.

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To be sincere, I really respect the Spain team for holding today's final down with direct winning but I not quite surprised because they have unique player which have been in the game for year and currently play in one of the best team in the NBA while those that play in the Spain League played for almost the same club and have understood themselves so well than other teams in the FIBA tournament.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on September 15, 2019, 02:24:09 PM

Congratulations on people winning their FIBA finals bets. I'm kind of dissapointed. Argentina lost in what I thought would be a close game. Right from the start old Scola was already handled. The Spaniards defense were superb. The rebounding gap made a huge difference. No country scored 80 or above on Spain. Great team.

Spain showed more competent basketball than Argentina which is the key for them to win especially in rebounding department. The match up also make a difference which the Spain has an upper edge against the Argentinians.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 15, 2019, 02:15:54 PM

Finals match was kind of boring to watch. I was expecting it to be intense like the Australia vs. Spain or close to that level. Kudos to team Spain for shutting down Scola. No doubt that he was the one that drives the Argentina team and when he was unable to produce, his teammates could not step up.

I stopped watching the game at the third quarter, sensing that Argentina could not win it anymore. That's basketball, our speculations won't happen all the time thus losing on our bets in the process, that's part of life though. Congrats to Spain and those who bet for them.

Anyways, see you next FIBA World Cup which will be held in the Philippines, Japan and Indonesia.

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So, today champions of World Cup will be crowned. What are your thought about final?

This final today is a rematch of the FIBA 2006 finals where on paper, Argentina has the edge and it's no brainer to think so because Pau Gasol is injured in the semis and can't play in the finals and he is the main man of the Spanish Squad but the result of the game is opposite to what many have expected, Spain dominated and dumped Argentina on that game. Argentina should have remember that moment and make that a motivation on this game today.

I am betting for Argentina (already had) as for me nobody has the edge. This might be a close game so i am putting some amount on the +5.5 handicap just in case. Good luck to us.

There were so many upset results in this tournament so far and it will be a great end to the tournament if there is another upset in the finals as well. None of the gambling sites are having odds in favor of Argentina, but their predictions were proved wrong many times. Both the teams are in great form, but Argentina has shown better team bonding and resilience so far.

Hope the final result of the Third place game and the final game was still another upset result for you because Spain has won the final game right before the game started through their countless direct knockout winning in this tournament was the reason why most betting site odds aare not in favor of the Argentine.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on September 15, 2019, 02:24:09 PM

I'm kind of dissapointed. Argentina lost in what I thought would be a close game.

It's kind hard to accept if you lose your bets but still Spain has given us a nice game for the finals.

Quote from: Bttzed03 on September 15, 2019, 02:15:54 PM

Finals match was kind of boring to watch. I was expecting it to be intense like the Australia vs. Spain or close to that level.

Yes..I think the match between Aussie and Spain is way even more of a finale than Argentina and Spain. Undecided

Moving on, Ricky Rubio is our finals MVP.

Quite interesting to see the list of MVPs. The latter part, most of them are superstars of NBA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIBA_Basketball_World_Cup_records#Most_Valuable_Players

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Congratulations on people winning their FIBA finals bets. I'm kind of dissapointed. Argentina lost in what I thought would be a close game. Right from the start old Scola was already handled. The Spaniards defense were superb. The rebounding gap made a huge difference. No country scored 80 or above on Spain. Great team.

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Finals match was kind of boring to watch. I was expecting it to be intense like the Australia vs. Spain or close to that level. Kudos to team Spain for shutting down Scola. No doubt that he was the one that drives the Argentina team and when he was unable to produce, his teammates could not step up.

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Spain played so well, Argentina wasn't bad neither and they tried their best but Spain literally played their game without dropping off the system ever. That is what makes world cup so great, if you play your game then you win if you go off rails even once then you start to lose by a lot, that is why there is so much momentum and so many comebacks in fiba world cup, if you give the other team the ball and let them play their game, it is easy to get 18-4 run on you.

Spain didn't let that happen because they didn't left the rails ever and give Argentina a tough time all game. It is still such an awesome story for Argentina, Scola is 39 years old and he played so amazingly that you may think he is a great future NBA potential for a second. All around it was a great tournament, I have enjoyed it so much.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on September 15, 2019, 11:17:48 AM

I expected more interesting final, but Spain had almost perfect game today. Their defence was great and they stopped leaders of Argentina Campazzo and Scola. But on the other hand, Argentina missed many open three- pointers. Congrats to Spain, they really deserved to win this trophy. And I'm already waiting for Olympics next year.
And speaking about 3rd place game - Australia choked again, same like in semifinal when they had game in their hands.

Both teams were bad at three-point shots.
3PTS: Argentina: 7/27 , Spain: 6/20

Spain defensive players had a great performance in the paint. It was very difficult for Argentina players to make two-point shots.
2PTS: Argentina: 15/34 (30 points) , Spain: 25/45 (50 points)

20 point difference in two-point shots.
The result: 95-75

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Congrats to Team Spain for winning the 2019 FIBA World Cup Championship!

Quote from: Renampun on September 15, 2019, 11:19:38 AM

Until now I still don't believe that Spain has defeated Argentina,

Spain is the favorite and much more have good players compared to Argentina. There's no surprise on the result so don't think of that too much.

I also bet on Argentina but I understand the risk. In case of a lose, no butthurt.

Just want to see if they will make an another upset again like what they did in their past games so I put some money.

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Those outside freeshots and pass, well played for the Team Spain.

Quote from: rosezionjohn on September 15, 2019, 10:12:16 AM

I certainly did not expect the score, I thought it would be closer than that.

What I thought is that by 4th quarter they will be able to par and retrieve themselves but Spain continued to dominate. They deserve it, looks easy for Spain, they truly owned this game. Also for those lads that guessed Rubio as this year's mvp, congratulations on your guess too and as well as to him.

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Quote from: Maheshkumar_Hrangkhawl on September 15, 2019, 10:52:19 AM

Lost BTC0.01 after betting for Argentina. After watching so many upsets, I thought that there was a real chance of a win by the Latin Americans. But what we got in the end was a completely lop sided match. Anyway congrats to Spain, who performed amazingly to win the tournament. Apart from Gabriel Deck, the other Argentine players were unable to match the Spaniards.

Spain played very well. They showed like a champ, full of confidence. They've dictated the game and win it according to the plan. Players who are really dedicated deserves the credits of winning the title. European players showed the dominance from this tournament.

Congrats to Rubio for bringing the tournament MVP and for the entire Spain squad, you deserve the World Cup title. See you in the Olympics.

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