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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 07, 2022, 09:31:35 PM

So many useless restrictions. If beer is available, then why it is not available for everyone? Only those with tickets will be able to purchase the drinks and that too for a few hours before the match. If a football fan is in Qatar for 2 weeks and he is attending two matches, this mean that he will be able to purchase drinks only two times during this entire stay.

Qatar wants to benefit from the money and fame that hosting the world cup brings but they don't want to bear the consequences of their decisions. The World cup is an international event that is not affiliated with a single religion or culture, hence FIFA should be allowed to organize the event without restrictions. Beverage companies have been one of the major sponsors of the world cup, hence this issue should have been discussed before even giving Qatar the hosting slot.

In my, country a particular region forbids the consumption of alcohol due to religious beliefs but they share alcohol taxes collected from other regions. This is the case of Qatar. they want the gloom and fun of the tournament but they want to dodge away from the price of the glory of the competition.

These restrictions and policies might end up making the competition uninteresting and FITA might end up selling fewer tickets than they budgeted. I cannot watch football in a place that is guided by draconian laws which would make fans feel like they are imprisoned.

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Quote from: KennyR on September 07, 2022, 08:22:31 PM

Once the policies are changed it is difficult to take it once after the event. Qatar being the first East Asian Country to conduct such a big event have taken this decision. Somehow the authority is trying to keep everything under control.

Ticket buyers can buy alcohol three hours before the match start.
One hour after the match can be bought.
Designated locations were provided for consumption.
No buying while the match is live.

So many useless restrictions. If beer is available, then why it is not available for everyone? Only those with tickets will be able to purchase the drinks and that too for a few hours before the match. If a football fan is in Qatar for 2 weeks and he is attending two matches, this mean that he will be able to purchase drinks only two times during this entire stay. I am sure that this will lead to a lot of black marketing and the fans will end up purchasing drinks for 5x or 10x their original price from dark markets.

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 07, 2022, 07:32:51 PM

Quote from: nullama on September 06, 2022, 09:12:34 PM

Yes, but the thing is that FIFA is so powerful, that when it brings the World Cup to a country, they usually end up changing some of the local laws to make things happen. As I mentioned before, they changed the laws to allow the sale of alcohol inside the stadiums.

My guess is that something similar will happen in Qatar.

I think it's a big disrespect what FIFA does by imposing its power against the laws and customs of a country.
If they (Fifa) have accepted Qatar as the host of the world cup, then these adjustments should be made and agreed in advance, without the pressure of trying to change things now so close to the event happening.
In the case of Qatar, we are talking about an extremely rich and powerful country too, so FIFA has more difficulties in imposing "its rules", however, imagine the power of persuasion that they must not have exercised against South Africa, for example.

Once the policies are changed it is difficult to take it once after the event. Qatar being the first East Asian Country to conduct such a big event have taken this decision. Somehow the authority is trying to keep everything under control.

Ticket buyers can buy alcohol three hours before the match start.
One hour after the match can be bought.
Designated locations were provided for consumption.
No buying while the match is live.

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 07, 2022, 07:32:51 PM

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I think it's a big disrespect what FIFA does by imposing its power against the laws and customs of a country.
If they (Fifa) have accepted Qatar as the host of the world cup, then these adjustments should be made and agreed in advance, without the pressure of trying to change things now so close to the event happening.
In the case of Qatar, we are talking about an extremely rich and powerful country too, so FIFA has more difficulties in imposing "its rules", however, imagine the power of persuasion that they must not have exercised against South Africa, for example.

It's an interesting thing to watch from the sideline.

I'm pretty sure they're having lots of discussions and debate with people in government. But having said that, Qatar also knew about FIFA sponsors, like Budweiser for example, plus all the previous world cups like the one in Brazil where they changed the law to allow selling alcohol in the stadiums.

I think it will eventually happen, but Qatar wants to keep it as quiet as possible. My guess is that the sale of alcohol was one of the conditions for the world cup to be held there. There's just way too much money to be made there.

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Quote from: nullama on September 06, 2022, 09:12:34 PM

Yes, but the thing is that FIFA is so powerful, that when it brings the World Cup to a country, they usually end up changing some of the local laws to make things happen. As I mentioned before, they changed the laws to allow the sale of alcohol inside the stadiums.

My guess is that something similar will happen in Qatar.

I think it's a big disrespect what FIFA does by imposing its power against the laws and customs of a country.
If they (Fifa) have accepted Qatar as the host of the world cup, then these adjustments should be made and agreed in advance, without the pressure of trying to change things now so close to the event happening.
In the case of Qatar, we are talking about an extremely rich and powerful country too, so FIFA has more difficulties in imposing "its rules", however, imagine the power of persuasion that they must not have exercised against South Africa, for example.

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Quote from: SATWAT on September 07, 2022, 12:44:59 PM

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We have some updates from Qatar about their alcohol policy as many fans are concerned about this, but things are slowly settling and authorities are giving updates time by time, hopefully we will have more in coming days about this all.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62794507

Good to see some official updates on this:

Quote from: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62794507

The Fifa event will be taking place in a Muslim country in the Middle East for the first time, and the consumption of alcohol is prohibited in Islam.

A 40,000-capacity fan zone in the capital Doha has also been confirmed, where a drink can also be purchased.

Interesting, that's a lot of people. Stadiums in Qatar range from 40,000 to 80,000 in full capacity, 6 of 8 stadiums are for 40k people, so they would in theory be serving alcohol to the same amount of people that are inside the stadiums. Source: https://www.qatar2022.qa/en/tournament/stadiums

Not sure if they will be serving alcohol inside the stadiums though.

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Quote from: nullama on September 06, 2022, 09:12:34 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on September 06, 2022, 09:06:07 PM

Quote from: Ahli38 on September 06, 2022, 07:55:19 PM

Indeed, this is what makes many people not interested in going to Qatar to watch the 2022 World Cup live. But it is different with football fans from among Muslims. they will definitely keep fighting over tickets to watch the world cup in qatar. because Muslims are used to partying without beer.

but I think even though there is a ban on alcohol there. but there must be a special place provided there. be it official or unofficial. because remembering the FIFA World Cup is for all people. so there must be some relaxation of regulations there specifically for the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

There is still a lack of clarity on so many issues. Qatar authorities are saying that alcohol won't be available in specially designated areas and it will be available only in stadiums, and that too 2-3 hours before the match. There are several countries in the GCC region, and laws related to alcohol varies widely in each of them. For example, in Bahrain and UAE alcohol is available 24x7 in specially designated areas. But that is not the case in more conservative countries such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait.

Yes, but the thing is that FIFA is so powerful, that when it brings the World Cup to a country, they usually end up changing some of the local laws to make things happen. As I mentioned before, they changed the laws to allow the sale of alcohol inside the stadiums.

My guess is that something similar will happen in Qatar.

We have some updates from Qatar about their alcohol policy as many fans are concerned about this, but things are slowly settling and authorities are giving updates time by time, hopefully we will have more in coming days about this all.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62794507

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Quote from: nullama on September 06, 2022, 09:12:34 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on September 06, 2022, 09:06:07 PM

There is still a lack of clarity on so many issues. Qatar authorities are saying that alcohol won't be available in specially designated areas and it will be available only in stadiums, and that too 2-3 hours before the match. There are several countries in the GCC region, and laws related to alcohol varies widely in each of them. For example, in Bahrain and UAE alcohol is available 24x7 in specially designated areas. But that is not the case in more conservative countries such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait.

Yes, but the thing is that FIFA is so powerful, that when it brings the World Cup to a country, they usually end up changing some of the local laws to make things happen. As I mentioned before, they changed the laws to allow the sale of alcohol inside the stadiums.

My guess is that something similar will happen in Qatar.

Agreed FIFA is very powerful organization, and they will do good things which help all fans from the world to enjoy this event right now many things are in process and Qatar authorities are also having some good way of advertising like they are hiring many celebrities for better information and all guidelines but right now it's time for them to do things very quickly because we have no just 2 months and this is going to be complicated if they will lose more time in these things.

Right now alcohol related things are major problem for fans so may be just for this event they allow, and then they will go back to their regular polices because this could be also helpful for them and fans as right now Qatar is on verge of biggest explore, so they have to accept few changes for this event which will give them better response from all world for this event.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 06, 2022, 09:06:07 PM

Quote from: Ahli38 on September 06, 2022, 07:55:19 PM

Indeed, this is what makes many people not interested in going to Qatar to watch the 2022 World Cup live. But it is different with football fans from among Muslims. they will definitely keep fighting over tickets to watch the world cup in qatar. because Muslims are used to partying without beer.

but I think even though there is a ban on alcohol there. but there must be a special place provided there. be it official or unofficial. because remembering the FIFA World Cup is for all people. so there must be some relaxation of regulations there specifically for the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

There is still a lack of clarity on so many issues. Qatar authorities are saying that alcohol won't be available in specially designated areas and it will be available only in stadiums, and that too 2-3 hours before the match. There are several countries in the GCC region, and laws related to alcohol varies widely in each of them. For example, in Bahrain and UAE alcohol is available 24x7 in specially designated areas. But that is not the case in more conservative countries such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait.

Yes, but the thing is that FIFA is so powerful, that when it brings the World Cup to a country, they usually end up changing some of the local laws to make things happen. As I mentioned before, they changed the laws to allow the sale of alcohol inside the stadiums.

My guess is that something similar will happen in Qatar.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on September 06, 2022, 07:55:19 PM

Indeed, this is what makes many people not interested in going to Qatar to watch the 2022 World Cup live. But it is different with football fans from among Muslims. they will definitely keep fighting over tickets to watch the world cup in qatar. because Muslims are used to partying without beer.

but I think even though there is a ban on alcohol there. but there must be a special place provided there. be it official or unofficial. because remembering the FIFA World Cup is for all people. so there must be some relaxation of regulations there specifically for the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

There is still a lack of clarity on so many issues. Qatar authorities are saying that alcohol won't be available in specially designated areas and it will be available only in stadiums, and that too 2-3 hours before the match. There are several countries in the GCC region, and laws related to alcohol varies widely in each of them. For example, in Bahrain and UAE alcohol is available 24x7 in specially designated areas. But that is not the case in more conservative countries such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait.

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Quote from: Ahli38 on September 06, 2022, 07:55:19 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on September 05, 2022, 09:36:07 PM

Finally there is some good news to the football fans. Qatar will allow ticketed fans to purchase beer at the stadium 3 hours before the kickoff. But then there is another problem. The fans will be in Qatar for at least 1-2 weeks. There will be many fans who are likely to attend multiple matches of their country. If the matches are a few days apart, then these fans will not get an opportunity to party in between. What is the point in having one or two cans of beer just before the match starts? If I were a fan, then I would skip this tournament.

Indeed, this is what makes many people not interested in going to Qatar to watch the 2022 World Cup live. But it is different with football fans from among Muslims. they will definitely keep fighting over tickets to watch the world cup in qatar. because Muslims are used to partying without beer.

but I think even though there is a ban on alcohol there. but there must be a special place provided there. be it official or unofficial. because remembering the FIFA World Cup is for all people. so there must be some relaxation of regulations there specifically for the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

Absolutely.

Wherever the World Cup goes, in goes with beer. Even in Brazil they had to change the law to serve beer inside the stadiums. They used to have a law that prevented it for safety reasons, but when the World Cup was there, the law was removed.

I think something similar will happen in Qatar. They just don't want to make it too public.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 05, 2022, 09:36:07 PM

Finally there is some good news to the football fans. Qatar will allow ticketed fans to purchase beer at the stadium 3 hours before the kickoff. But then there is another problem. The fans will be in Qatar for at least 1-2 weeks. There will be many fans who are likely to attend multiple matches of their country. If the matches are a few days apart, then these fans will not get an opportunity to party in between. What is the point in having one or two cans of beer just before the match starts? If I were a fan, then I would skip this tournament.

Indeed, this is what makes many people not interested in going to Qatar to watch the 2022 World Cup live. But it is different with football fans from among Muslims. they will definitely keep fighting over tickets to watch the world cup in qatar. because Muslims are used to partying without beer.

but I think even though there is a ban on alcohol there. but there must be a special place provided there. be it official or unofficial. because remembering the FIFA World Cup is for all people. so there must be some relaxation of regulations there specifically for the 2022 FIFA World Cup.

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Quote from: mv1986 on September 04, 2022, 11:33:54 AM

The League of Nations isn't taken seriously by the superstars. That competition doesn't come anywhere close to the EC and WC in regards to prestige. There have also been polls whether people remember who won the last final or participated in it and many people who usually like soccer don't even know a year later. That wouldn't happen with the big competitions. Do you think we get to see players like Mbappe or back then Ronaldo at the League of Nations play with the same motivation as the European Championship or even the World Cup? That is hard to believe.

I have to be honest, league of nations is not taken serious by anyone at all. If there is a "kid", like a young player with a potential taken there, then that kid could try his best, under 20 type of player could show their skills on international stage so that is important and I get that.

But, I do not think that anything above that would make sense to anyone at all. Like any player above 23 would care even if they are bad players and not superstars. Nobody cared from viewers, no manager cared, and even tv rights were cheaper than anything I can remember. Hence, anyone who bets according to how teams were in league of nations would be upset for sure.

That's the point, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that only players under 20 take it seriously and use the chance to show their potential. Any player who isn't a part of the national team or still has something to prove can use those games and give their best. The guys who are seeded no matter what are rather afraid of injuries during those games if they take place right before a big cup. Yes they still want to play as many games for the national team as possible, but the older they are the more they feel the need for recovery, especially when you consider how many games they play with their clubs already.

Tv rights have been way cheaper and much less people are watching across all devices.

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Quote from: nullama on September 05, 2022, 10:07:31 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on September 05, 2022, 09:36:07 PM

Finally there is some good news to the football fans. Qatar will allow ticketed fans to purchase beer at the stadium 3 hours before the kickoff. But then there is another problem. The fans will be in Qatar for at least 1-2 weeks. There will be many fans who are likely to attend multiple matches of their country. If the matches are a few days apart, then these fans will not get an opportunity to party in between. What is the point in having one or two cans of beer just before the match starts? If I were a fan, then I would skip this tournament.

I think there are designated areas that will be serving alcohol. I can't remember where I read it though so it might not really be official. Kinda like hotels bars for foreigns.

Now updates are coming as many things are going to be clear before start of this event because FIFA and Qatar authorities are understanding the concerns which are creating feud for many things as it's first time we have event like this in Islamic Country, so they are going with all their best opportunities to do this all without any big controversy even we all know this Gulf region is much developed, and they are already having millions of non Muslims which are living here for jobs and business and enjoying good life but still this is surely a multicultural event which need some better environment and facilities for peoples to enjoy with the success of their teams on and off the filed which is their right.

They already mention that peoples can enjoy this alcohol in hotels and their rooms but having some trouble on roads and other public places, hopefully all things will be updated soon.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 05, 2022, 09:36:07 PM

Finally there is some good news to the football fans. Qatar will allow ticketed fans to purchase beer at the stadium 3 hours before the kickoff. But then there is another problem. The fans will be in Qatar for at least 1-2 weeks. There will be many fans who are likely to attend multiple matches of their country. If the matches are a few days apart, then these fans will not get an opportunity to party in between. What is the point in having one or two cans of beer just before the match starts? If I were a fan, then I would skip this tournament.

I think there are designated areas that will be serving alcohol. I can't remember where I read it though so it might not really be official. Kinda like hotels bars for foreigns.

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Finally there is some good news to the football fans. Qatar will allow ticketed fans to purchase beer at the stadium 3 hours before the kickoff. But then there is another problem. The fans will be in Qatar for at least 1-2 weeks. There will be many fans who are likely to attend multiple matches of their country. If the matches are a few days apart, then these fans will not get an opportunity to party in between. What is the point in having one or two cans of beer just before the match starts? If I were a fan, then I would skip this tournament.

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Quote from: lixer on September 04, 2022, 04:28:20 PM

Maybe you are right in your few views but still now things are change drastically because we all now youngsters are much better prepared like we have few years back now they are doing good experiments in their games when they are having chance in many competitions which are nursery for them and these are surely giving them good lessons for having better performance in mega event like World Cup most of the player are busy in clubs, and they are having good relief as they are now going into World Cup for their country honor, and they have to perform extraordinary in front of millions fans which are watching them and have good expectations from them for winning this title.

This is golden chance for being a great player and this is not coming before four years, so you need to perform like this peoples will talk about you and your skills until next event.

Yes, absolutely!
Some points are relevant on this topic, and in fact, football, tactics, structures and technologies in relation to this sport have changed a lot in a few years, and that is clear!

But I don't know, maybe I could have said some nonsense, but as I mentioned before, we will only have a concrete answer on this, only when the World Cup starts!

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 04, 2022, 06:58:08 AM

I think I don't agree that the German squad has decreased in quality. from my observations, the german squad is currently undergoing a transitional period of renewal of young players.
On their attack line there are Kai Havertz, Karim Adameyi, Timo Werner, Lukas Nmecha. they are all young players, I have no doubts about the german squad but their strikers have not been tested on the world cup stage. As for the very experienced players, only Thomas Muller and Manuel Neuer.

And almost all of their midfielders play for the same club, Bayern Munich. The cohesiveness and coordination between the players in the German midfield is unquestionable, as well as the German defense, they are young players, only Antonio Rudiger is the most experienced. and I have doubts on the German squad's defensive line.

Hmm....look, I don't know, but your observation is relevant, and yes, the German team is going through a transition.
We will only have a concrete answer when the world cup actually starts.

Some players are young and may not be able to have the experience that some players have, like Neuer and Muller (quoted by you).
The pressure of participating in a world cup is totally different from participating in a national championship, champions league and others championships
The whole world will be looking at you and the world cup only happens every 4 years.

Maybe you are right in your few views but still now things are change drastically because we all now youngsters are much better prepared like we have few years back now they are doing good experiments in their games when they are having chance in many competitions which are nursery for them and these are surely giving them good lessons for having better performance in mega event like World Cup most of the player are busy in clubs, and they are having good relief as they are now going into World Cup for their country honor, and they have to perform extraordinary in front of millions fans which are watching them and have good expectations from them for winning this title.

This is golden chance for being a great player and this is not coming before four years, so you need to perform like this peoples will talk about you and your skills until next event.

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Quote from: mv1986 on September 04, 2022, 11:33:54 AM

The League of Nations isn't taken seriously by the superstars. That competition doesn't come anywhere close to the EC and WC in regards to prestige. There have also been polls whether people remember who won the last final or participated in it and many people who usually like soccer don't even know a year later. That wouldn't happen with the big competitions. Do you think we get to see players like Mbappe or back then Ronaldo at the League of Nations play with the same motivation as the European Championship or even the World Cup? That is hard to believe.

I have to be honest, league of nations is not taken serious by anyone at all. If there is a "kid", like a young player with a potential taken there, then that kid could try his best, under 20 type of player could show their skills on international stage so that is important and I get that.

But, I do not think that anything above that would make sense to anyone at all. Like any player above 23 would care even if they are bad players and not superstars. Nobody cared from viewers, no manager cared, and even tv rights were cheaper than anything I can remember. Hence, anyone who bets according to how teams were in league of nations would be upset for sure.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 04, 2022, 06:58:08 AM

I think I don't agree that the German squad has decreased in quality. from my observations, the german squad is currently undergoing a transitional period of renewal of young players.
On their attack line there are Kai Havertz, Karim Adameyi, Timo Werner, Lukas Nmecha. they are all young players, I have no doubts about the german squad but their strikers have not been tested on the world cup stage. As for the very experienced players, only Thomas Muller and Manuel Neuer.

And almost all of their midfielders play for the same club, Bayern Munich. The cohesiveness and coordination between the players in the German midfield is unquestionable, as well as the German defense, they are young players, only Antonio Rudiger is the most experienced. and I have doubts on the German squad's defensive line.

Hmm....look, I don't know, but your observation is relevant, and yes, the German team is going through a transition.
We will only have a concrete answer when the world cup actually starts.

Some players are young and may not be able to have the experience that some players have, like Neuer and Muller (quoted by you).
The pressure of participating in a world cup is totally different from participating in a national championship, champions league and others championships
The whole world will be looking at you and the world cup only happens every 4 years.

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