FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread - page 185.

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Quote from: shogun47 on June 06, 2023, 12:05:06 AM

Let's go step by step here.

France has a very large immigrant population, which is true. But why exactly does that fact give them an advantage over other nations in Europe in regards to soccer? Germany has a bigger population than France and as we know, Germany also has a lot of players that have an international background. Often times they are half Turkish or at least still have a Turkish passport. What exactly makes the difference here in your opinion? I am not saying that France doesn't benefit from migrated players, they do. But Germany does as well and is much worse than France right now.

Ligue 1 emerged as one of European top leagues you claim. I ask differently: how many top leagues does Europe have in your opinion, which of them is France and where was Ligue 1 before huge amounts of money were spent on PSG?

Germany has a population of around 3 million Turks, if I am not wrong. And there are players like İlkay Gündoğan and Mesut Özil who have dominated the football scene in Germany. But France still has more number of migrant origin people (maybe 4-5 times). And another factor is that most of the migrants in Germany are Turks, Bosnians, Afghans.etc and they are not that well known for their football skills like Congolese or Ghanaian immigrants.

I am not that familiar with Ligue 1. Before players like Neymar, Kylian Mbappé and Messi were signed by Paris Saint-Germain, I hardly ever followed any of the matches in Ligue 1. I guess it was at a lower level when compared to EPL or Serie A. But now Ligue 1 is one of the top leagues.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 05, 2023, 10:16:08 PM

Quote from: shogun47 on June 05, 2023, 03:30:37 PM

Yes but although I have never been to South America, I feel like the fans can contribute a lot to their teams' successes. I know that this didn't work out very well in 2014 against Germany, but still the crowds are amazing there. But I still think that even in three years from now France is probably still the dominating force in world soccer. It is unbelievable how many young outstanding talents are spread all over European soccer. England and Spain also have quite a few, but France is all set for several years to go.

France is the same team that failed to qualify for the 1990 and 1994 editions of the FIFA World Cup. Their recent success has a lot to do with the migrant origin players. France has a very large immigrant population (10-15 million) and that gives them a bigger advantage when compared to other European teams like Spain and Germany. Also, Ligue 1 has emerged as one of the top European leagues, partly due to huge amounts of money being spent by teams like Paris Saint-Germain and Olympique de Marseille, which has allowed them to recruit top players from all around the world.

Let's go step by step here.

France has a very large immigrant population, which is true. But why exactly does that fact give them an advantage over other nations in Europe in regards to soccer? Germany has a bigger population than France and as we know, Germany also has a lot of players that have an international background. Often times they are half Turkish or at least still have a Turkish passport. What exactly makes the difference here in your opinion? I am not saying that France doesn't benefit from migrated players, they do. But Germany does as well and is much worse than France right now.

Ligue 1 emerged as one of European top leagues you claim. I ask differently: how many top leagues does Europe have in your opinion, which of them is France and where was Ligue 1 before huge amounts of money were spent on PSG?

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Quote from: shogun47 on June 05, 2023, 03:30:37 PM

Yes but although I have never been to South America, I feel like the fans can contribute a lot to their teams' successes. I know that this didn't work out very well in 2014 against Germany, but still the crowds are amazing there. But I still think that even in three years from now France is probably still the dominating force in world soccer. It is unbelievable how many young outstanding talents are spread all over European soccer. England and Spain also have quite a few, but France is all set for several years to go.

France is the same team that failed to qualify for the 1990 and 1994 editions of the FIFA World Cup. Their recent success has a lot to do with the migrant origin players. France has a very large immigrant population (10-15 million) and that gives them a bigger advantage when compared to other European teams like Spain and Germany. Also, Ligue 1 has emerged as one of the top European leagues, partly due to huge amounts of money being spent by teams like Paris Saint-Germain and Olympique de Marseille, which has allowed them to recruit top players from all around the world.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 29, 2023, 06:00:56 PM

It is not bad that the players who are veterans have action, I also think that 38-39 years is not that bad, nor old, taking only young players is not good either, just look at the example that Luis's Spain team gave Enrique, a total failure, they had so many good players and they didn't want to take the ones who really play well, so taking veteran players and young players is the right combination, I do believe that veterans are needed so that they can get ahead Otherwise they would have the action that Spain had in Qatar.

It's not just Spain. In the playoff phase Portugal also tried the same approach and failed. What the teams need is an ideal mix of younger players and the experienced ones. France is a perfect example for such a team, and Argentina also comes close. And I don't agree with the argument that 38-29 year old players should not play for the national teams. Nowadays the players maintain adequate fitness levels, so that they remain competitive even at that age.

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America is hosting the world cup again after years.
The last time they hosted the world cup was back in 1994 when Brazil's national team won the world cup and they had many famous players like Romario and there we had a great experience in 1994. Once again America hosting it and I hope to see the same.

If I remember correctly, the Latin American teams were very lucky in the World Championships on their continent and mostly unlucky outside of their time zone (Argentina won the World Cup for the first time in a "foreign" land). If this pattern continues, then Brazil will indeed have increased chances for the title, although in fact there, starting from the quarter-finals, the percentage of players playing in Europe will be close to 100.

Yes but although I have never been to South America, I feel like the fans can contribute a lot to their teams' successes. I know that this didn't work out very well in 2014 against Germany, but still the crowds are amazing there. But I still think that even in three years from now France is probably still the dominating force in world soccer. It is unbelievable how many young outstanding talents are spread all over European soccer. England and Spain also have quite a few, but France is all set for several years to go.

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Recently United States of America Playing Football very well. They Host Fifa World Cup 2026 it will be Turning point for USA football. I think USA people will more interested about football. I think Football will more popular in USA jone. Canada and Mexico also co host of Fifa world cap 2026. But most matches will be played in USA. And Fifa increased total team it will very helpful for new country’s. I know that till now 32 country play Fifa world cap. But from 2026 that's means Coming would cop 48 team will play Fifa world cap. It is very good news i think. Overall I think American Hosting Fifa world cap 2026 will great. Best wishes For USA, Canada and Mexico

Increasing the team that will be participating in the 2026 world cup football is going to make the tournament an interesting, and countries hosting the world cup are very lively and fun countries to be. The next world cup will be totally different and the competition won't be easy too because of the increased of team.

In fact my personal opinion is that FIFA authorities can organize some friendly matches to encourage the teams who do not qualify or get a chance for the FIFA World Cup. By doing this, those teams will be very enthusiastic and will want to develop themselves in a better way to get a chance in the World Cup.

They can but not during the upcoming World Cup because the new format already brought an almost full schedule from day to night just to cater all the games, moreover, World Cup is an important event and the time to see which team is the most finest among all national teams. Anyway, we can still look at these games as a friendly matches but at least expect that they are a lot more serious compared to the regular ones that doesn't give them any benefits or something they can hold into.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 05, 2023, 03:48:29 AM

America is hosting the world cup again after years.
The last time they hosted the world cup was back in 1994 when Brazil's national team won the world cup and they had many famous players like Romario and there we had a great experience in 1994. Once again America hosting it and I hope to see the same.

If I remember correctly, the Latin American teams were very lucky in the World Championships on their continent and mostly unlucky outside of their time zone (Argentina won the World Cup for the first time in a "foreign" land). If this pattern continues, then Brazil will indeed have increased chances for the title, although in fact there, starting from the quarter-finals, the percentage of players playing in Europe will be close to 100.

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Recently United States of America Playing Football very well. They Host Fifa World Cup 2026 it will be Turning point for USA football. I think USA people will more interested about football. I think Football will more popular in USA jone. Canada and Mexico also co host of Fifa world cap 2026. But most matches will be played in USA. And Fifa increased total team it will very helpful for new country’s. I know that till now 32 country play Fifa world cap. But from 2026 that's means Coming would cop 48 team will play Fifa world cap. It is very good news i think. Overall I think American Hosting Fifa world cap 2026 will great. Best wishes For USA, Canada and Mexico

Actually, when the USA first hosted the World Cup in 1994 it had an impact on the development of football there and became more famous because several great players became MLS as league which ended their career like David Beckham, but indeed the league and football in the USA is not or will be difficult more famous, such as in Europe or other American continent countries which are the main sports because USA citizens have their own different football and also basketball which are of great interest to their citizens.
So when the USA is re-elected along with two other countries, it is an election that usually hosts the World Cup on a different continent each time it is held, which might be a concern for how the USA national team will act, including Mexico, while Canada will have big doubts about how well they can go through the phase group.

That is the great info - I will surly go check out details.

We will see something new in the next World Cup. Although not able to host the World Cup in Qatar, FIFA would like to give football fans something new. However, football fans will get many benefits from Qatar in terms of rules and regulations.

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Quote from: RewFrew on June 04, 2023, 11:18:11 AM

Recently United States of America Playing Football very well. They Host Fifa World Cup 2026 it will be Turning point for USA football. I think USA people will more interested about football. I think Football will more popular in USA jone. Canada and Mexico also co host of Fifa world cap 2026. But most matches will be played in USA. And Fifa increased total team it will very helpful for new country’s. I know that till now 32 country play Fifa world cap. But from 2026 that's means Coming would cop 48 team will play Fifa world cap. It is very good news i think. Overall I think American Hosting Fifa world cap 2026 will great. Best wishes For USA, Canada and Mexico

Actually, when the USA first hosted the World Cup in 1994 it had an impact on the development of football there and became more famous because several great players became MLS as league which ended their career like David Beckham, but indeed the league and football in the USA is not or will be difficult more famous, such as in Europe or other American continent countries which are the main sports because USA citizens have their own different football and also basketball which are of great interest to their citizens.
So when the USA is re-elected along with two other countries, it is an election that usually hosts the World Cup on a different continent each time it is held, which might be a concern for how the USA national team will act, including Mexico, while Canada will have big doubts about how well they can go through the phase group.

That is the great info - I will surly go check out details. Also there is no doubt about the point you have mentioned that USA will make the event very presentable and full of life.

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Recently United States of America Playing Football very well. They Host Fifa World Cup 2026 it will be Turning point for USA football. I think USA people will more interested about football. I think Football will more popular in USA jone. Canada and Mexico also co host of Fifa world cap 2026. But most matches will be played in USA. And Fifa increased total team it will very helpful for new country’s. I know that till now 32 country play Fifa world cap. But from 2026 that's means Coming would cop 48 team will play Fifa world cap. It is very good news i think. Overall I think American Hosting Fifa world cap 2026 will great. Best wishes For USA, Canada and Mexico

Increasing the team that will be participating in the 2026 world cup football is going to make the tournament an interesting, and countries hosting the world cup are very lively and fun countries to be. The next world cup will be totally different and the competition won't be easy too because of the increased of team.

In fact my personal opinion is that FIFA authorities can organize some friendly matches to encourage the teams who do not qualify or get a chance for the FIFA World Cup. By doing this, those teams will be very enthusiastic and will want to develop themselves in a better way to get a chance in the World Cup.

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America is hosting the world cup again after years.
The last time they hosted the world cup was back in 1994 when Brazil's national team won the world cup and they had many famous players like Romario and there we had a great experience in 1994. Once again America hosting it and I hope to see the same.

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Quote from: RewFrew on June 04, 2023, 11:18:11 AM

Recently United States of America Playing Football very well. They Host Fifa World Cup 2026 it will be Turning point for USA football. I think USA people will more interested about football. I think Football will more popular in USA jone. Canada and Mexico also co host of Fifa world cap 2026. But most matches will be played in USA. And Fifa increased total team it will very helpful for new country’s. I know that till now 32 country play Fifa world cap. But from 2026 that's means Coming would cop 48 team will play Fifa world cap. It is very good news i think. Overall I think American Hosting Fifa world cap 2026 will great. Best wishes For USA, Canada and Mexico

Increasing the team that will be participating in the 2026 world cup football is going to make the tournament an interesting, and countries hosting the world cup are very lively and fun countries to be. The next world cup will be totally different and the competition won't be easy too because of the increased of team.

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Quote from: Strongkored on June 05, 2023, 12:50:32 AM

Quote from: RewFrew on June 04, 2023, 11:18:11 AM

Recently United States of America Playing Football very well. They Host Fifa World Cup 2026 it will be Turning point for USA football. I think USA people will more interested about football. I think Football will more popular in USA jone. Canada and Mexico also co host of Fifa world cap 2026. But most matches will be played in USA. And Fifa increased total team it will very helpful for new country’s. I know that till now 32 country play Fifa world cap. But from 2026 that's means Coming would cop 48 team will play Fifa world cap. It is very good news i think. Overall I think American Hosting Fifa world cap 2026 will great. Best wishes For USA, Canada and Mexico

Actually, when the USA first hosted the World Cup in 1994 it had an impact on the development of football there and became more famous because several great players became MLS as league which ended their career like David Beckham, but indeed the league and football in the USA is not or will be difficult more famous, such as in Europe or other American continent countries which are the main sports because USA citizens have their own different football and also basketball which are of great interest to their citizens.
So when the USA is re-elected along with two other countries, it is an election that usually hosts the World Cup on a different continent each time it is held, which might be a concern for how the USA national team will act, including Mexico, while Canada will have big doubts about how well they can go through the phase group.

Football fans will benefit the most from the next World Cup. Because maybe the next World Cup will not make the countries as difficult as the Qatar World Cup. This allows football fans to watch and enjoy every match with freedom.

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Quote from: RewFrew on June 04, 2023, 11:18:11 AM

Recently United States of America Playing Football very well. They Host Fifa World Cup 2026 it will be Turning point for USA football. I think USA people will more interested about football. I think Football will more popular in USA jone. Canada and Mexico also co host of Fifa world cap 2026. But most matches will be played in USA. And Fifa increased total team it will very helpful for new country’s. I know that till now 32 country play Fifa world cap. But from 2026 that's means Coming would cop 48 team will play Fifa world cap. It is very good news i think. Overall I think American Hosting Fifa world cap 2026 will great. Best wishes For USA, Canada and Mexico

Actually, when the USA first hosted the World Cup in 1994 it had an impact on the development of football there and became more famous because several great players became MLS as league which ended their career like David Beckham, but indeed the league and football in the USA is not or will be difficult more famous, such as in Europe or other American continent countries which are the main sports because USA citizens have their own different football and also basketball which are of great interest to their citizens.
So when the USA is re-elected along with two other countries, it is an election that usually hosts the World Cup on a different continent each time it is held, which might be a concern for how the USA national team will act, including Mexico, while Canada will have big doubts about how well they can go through the phase group.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on June 04, 2023, 03:02:36 PM

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if argentina wants to continue to develop stably then the argentina national team should focus on young players instead of continuing to play messi on the field even in the 2026 world cup later

but it all depends on the political situation of Argentinian football later because there will be differences of opinion in response to this, messi can still play in the world cup and he has the talent for that

I don't think Argentina is looking to continue using Messi in their national team. It's basically all gone now, they won the world cup with him, that's him retiring in glory. There would be no sense for him to continue playing after that massive achievement, as it would be all down hill from there.

If Messi retires now, he would even get many deals in advertisements, etc, so he would be doing very well in terms of money. He should give some space to the new generation, he doesn't need the money from football, and Argentina doesn't need him any more as well.

@nullama I agree that Messi should call it quits as he’s achieved his dream with Argentina and in 2026 the team can’t be playing as per his strength otherwise they’ll be eliminated quickly. Furthermore didn’t he say post the World Cup that he wants to play last few matches with Argentina and then call it quits so now why is he suddenly changing his mind and I hope that the Argentina coach can ask him to retire for the sake of the team.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 03, 2023, 10:54:09 PM

It is somewhat obvious that what they say that when the World Cup ends, some will want to stay there as illegals , in any case, there are many citizens of other countries who are in the USA and work, taking care that the police catch them and deport them, as far as As far as I am concerned, I think that this will be very difficult for the USA to control, because there is clearly a lot of migration, from Venezuela they go to Colombia and they prefer to go through the Darien jungle, which is so dangerous, but even so they are looking for the American dream, now if they put As a resource for the World Cup, they can easily stay in the USA with many Excuses, and since the US elections are coming in 2024, it will be Interesting how they are going to handle this.

Interesting concern but I believe that if anything, the USA knows how to handle these backdoor (illegal) immigration problems. They have had a plan ready probably by the time they submitted their application even when in the meantime a good couple of things changed. When they calculate the risk potential for people to come as fans with the intention to stay in the US, they know that it is happening either way and such an even won't really drive those numbers up. You could say the same of other sports events that happen near the boarder. These alternative routes as you mentioned through that jungle are hard to control not only during a World Cup, but at any time. The police presence will be significantly increased due to terrorism potential alone. It might not even be the best time to go for it as an immigrant from that perspective.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on June 04, 2023, 03:02:36 PM

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if argentina wants to continue to develop stably then the argentina national team should focus on young players instead of continuing to play messi on the field even in the 2026 world cup later

but it all depends on the political situation of Argentinian football later because there will be differences of opinion in response to this, messi can still play in the world cup and he has the talent for that

I don't think Argentina is looking to continue using Messi in their national team. It's basically all gone now, they won the world cup with him, that's him retiring in glory. There would be no sense for him to continue playing after that massive achievement, as it would be all down hill from there.

If Messi retires now, he would even get many deals in advertisements, etc, so he would be doing very well in terms of money. He should give some space to the new generation, he doesn't need the money from football, and Argentina doesn't need him any more as well.

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To even consider Messi could be remotely bad in anything could be just kidding yourself. I can easily say that even the rivalry with Ronaldo was a bit fabricated if you ask me, dude had 90 goal year, 90!

He is by far the best player I have ever seen, the most skilled and talented one as well, he had great teammates at times and won a lot with them, some seasons the team wasn't all that good, but he never chased to go to a good team, he stayed with his team until he was already quite old, and then he started to move, he could have played anywhere, any good team in the world, and make them better and won a lot with them, but he preferred to stay in Barcelona. He is the best footballer the world has ever seen to me, and I hope to see him during next world cup as well, no matter his age.

If Lionel Messi had not joined PSG, he would have been able to give better performance by now if he had joined another club. Because I think Lionel Messi could not match himself in the PSG team. Hopefully Lionel Messi will join a good club next.

messi next destination is surly SPL and it will be clear in next few months and as discussed above SPL will be a force then

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The question is whether Messi is still fit enough for a new world championship. He is so relaxed that he can always participate, despite his age and possible lack of fitness. But what does Messi want? I think he can only enjoy football if he starts playing at the highest level. And that will not work when he gets a little older and will become a wiselplayer, for example. Messi will never accept that. It's not for nothing that they say that you should always stop top sport when you've reached your peak.

if argentina wants to continue to develop stably then the argentina national team should focus on young players instead of continuing to play messi on the field even in the 2026 world cup later

but it all depends on the political situation of Argentinian football later because there will be differences of opinion in response to this, messi can still play in the world cup and he has the talent for that

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 03, 2023, 10:54:09 PM

It is somewhat obvious that what they say that when the World Cup ends, some will want to stay there as illegals , in any case, there are many citizens of other countries who are in the USA and work, taking care that the police catch them and deport them, as far as As far as I am concerned, I think that this will be very difficult for the USA to control, because there is clearly a lot of migration, from Venezuela they go to Colombia and they prefer to go through the Darien jungle, which is so dangerous, but even so they are looking for the American dream, now if they put As a resource for the World Cup, they can easily stay in the USA with many Excuses, and since the US elections are coming in 2024, it will be Interesting how they are going to handle this.

We think about money and say that if we do not watch then they are going to lose money, but to be fair "some" people will watch anyway, was the last world cup the least watched world cup ever? I am not so sure but I doubt that and even if so, wasn't by a large margin. Why was it done then? I could say that they have been given bribery that would cover the difference, and that's the reason why they accepted Qatar so easily.

Let's say it was hosted at England, a pure football nation with so many amazing stadiums, all you could hope for is there, all is allowed, no cultural issues, drinks, clothes, whatever you want, how many more would watch, how much more money would they earn? I bet that Qatar paid the difference enough to make it there instead, we are talking about not just a few million, we are talking about BILLIONS of dollars.

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