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Yes but although I have never been to South America, I feel like the fans can contribute a lot to their teams' successes. I know that this didn't work out very well in 2014 against Germany, but still the crowds are amazing there. But I still think that even in three years from now France is probably still the dominating force in world soccer. It is unbelievable how many young outstanding talents are spread all over European soccer. England and Spain also have quite a few, but France is all set for several years to go.

France is the same team that failed to qualify for the 1990 and 1994 editions of the FIFA World Cup. Their recent success has a lot to do with the migrant origin players. France has a very large immigrant population (10-15 million) and that gives them a bigger advantage when compared to other European teams like Spain and Germany. Also, Ligue 1 has emerged as one of the top European leagues, partly due to huge amounts of money being spent by teams like Paris Saint-Germain and Olympique de Marseille, which has allowed them to recruit top players from all around the world.

France is one of the strongest teams in the world and they won the world cup two times in 1998 when Brazil had an amazing performance and in 2018 but the last time when they face Argentina they failed to win the game and even with a player like Mbappe who is one of the strongest players and young talent they failed.
This time in 2026 I guess France can have a better chance because of having more experience.

I am not completely sure that saying that a team is going to do better next time because an increase in experience is a valid point in this context. Because in the end all the teams who participated in Qatar and did not win the cup have ended managed to earn experience, that does not mean they will do better next time.

Experience is nothing if we do not learn from it.

If someone asked me,.the biggest experience earning a team recently had was Brazil during the infamous 7-1 match against Germany. They learn about humbleness and that to be champions they cannot just depend on home advantage and their previous record, this is an sport which demands constant improvement.

In the two last World Cups France had amazing results and they were champions in Russia in 2018 while next time in 2022 they couldn't win the final match and this can show us France is on good days for years in the world cup and if we see then winning the World Cup or being in the final match in 2026 it's not surprising at all.
Here you can see the performance of France in the World Cups:

https://olympics.com/en/news/how-many-fifa-world-cup-titles-france-football-team-win#:~:text=So%20far%2C%20France%20have%20won,the%20penalties%20on%20both%20occasions.

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Football fans will benefit the most from the next World Cup. Because maybe the next World Cup will not make the countries as difficult as the Qatar World Cup. This allows football fans to watch and enjoy every match with freedom.

Bold of you to assume football fans did not enjoy the last world cup. The Qatar world cup was among the best world cups ever. I have watched different world cups and the 2022 world cup was the best for me. A lot of controversies, yes we know, but that did not stop anybody from enjoying the world cup. Most of the controversies where just propaganda. What's best was to just block out the negative energy and just enjoy the sport.

To be honest, the world cup 2022 was not as bad as some people are trying to project it. Yes, it was hosted in Asia this time and also in one of the Islamic countries but this not at all means that it was a failure. There were many good takes from this world cup and of course, the Asians also deserved to host the most prestigious football event.

I think having a world cup in this region will encourage many new countries to have a serious approach toward football. Asia is a big continent but here we do not have any strongest teams like in South America or the European region.

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I'm not sure, but if your concern is the visa... as far as I'm aware, people only need to acquire a visa for the USA (which is more "complicated") and automatically they have a "free pass" to watch the games on the Mexico and Canada.

I don't agree with this. Getting a visa for Mexico or Canada may not be a big deal for US/EU citizens. But if someone from China or India want to visit these countries, in order to watch the world cup matches, they still need to go through a lot of formalities. And getting a US visa is entirely at another level. For people from the third world, it is next to impossible to get a tourist visa to the US. In short, I guess the fans will be mostly comprised of EU/US citizens for the 2026 event. Very few of those from Asia or Africa are likely to travel in order to watch the matches.

Wealthy people from third world countries will probably find ways to solve the problem, but of course the bulk of the tourists will be people with a high level of wealth - from wealthy countries such as Europe, Japan, South Korea, etc.
By the way, probably scammers who "guarantee" obtaining visas and the absence of problems in obtaining them, get rich at this World Cup, since people will always look for workarounds Grin

Wealthy people from wealthy countries including poor countries, will literally have no struggles in flying towards US and watch the upcoming World Cup just like what everyone wanted. And in the first place, considering their wealth and connections, it is already safe to assume that it will not be their first time traveling towards America which also means that they already have the requirement such as passport and everything.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 07, 2023, 04:18:25 PM

Quote from: Sithara007 on June 06, 2023, 09:25:55 PM

Quote from: alegotardo on June 06, 2023, 08:22:12 PM

I'm not sure, but if your concern is the visa... as far as I'm aware, people only need to acquire a visa for the USA (which is more "complicated") and automatically they have a "free pass" to watch the games on the Mexico and Canada.

I don't agree with this. Getting a visa for Mexico or Canada may not be a big deal for US/EU citizens. But if someone from China or India want to visit these countries, in order to watch the world cup matches, they still need to go through a lot of formalities. And getting a US visa is entirely at another level. For people from the third world, it is next to impossible to get a tourist visa to the US. In short, I guess the fans will be mostly comprised of EU/US citizens for the 2026 event. Very few of those from Asia or Africa are likely to travel in order to watch the matches.

Wealthy people from third world countries will probably find ways to solve the problem, but of course the bulk of the tourists will be people with a high level of wealth - from wealthy countries such as Europe, Japan, South Korea, etc.
By the way, probably scammers who "guarantee" obtaining visas and the absence of problems in obtaining them, get rich at this World Cup, since people will always look for workarounds Grin

You are very right, most especially in third world countries where the average citizens are seeking for cheaper and easier means of leaving their country, no doubt, many will fall prey to this scammers who either dissappear immediately after they collect money supposedly meant for visa, or will disappear after issuing a fake visa to their client, I thought such things as this only happen in my country, kind of surprised to realize that this bad eggs also operate in other countries as well.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 06, 2023, 09:25:55 PM

Quote from: alegotardo on June 06, 2023, 08:22:12 PM

I'm not sure, but if your concern is the visa... as far as I'm aware, people only need to acquire a visa for the USA (which is more "complicated") and automatically they have a "free pass" to watch the games on the Mexico and Canada.

I don't agree with this. Getting a visa for Mexico or Canada may not be a big deal for US/EU citizens. But if someone from China or India want to visit these countries, in order to watch the world cup matches, they still need to go through a lot of formalities. And getting a US visa is entirely at another level. For people from the third world, it is next to impossible to get a tourist visa to the US. In short, I guess the fans will be mostly comprised of EU/US citizens for the 2026 event. Very few of those from Asia or Africa are likely to travel in order to watch the matches.

Yes, the US is already expecting a lot of tourists application because of the upcoming World Cup and they already know that people from 3rd world countries are already applying at a much earlier phase because the people are also expecting that it will be not that easy to get a visa to fly and step foot in any US soil and they know as well that it will take a few couple of months before they can have a schedule.

I think it's already agreeable that people from EU and first world countries will not have that much struggle just to secure a visa because having a passport is already a perk and some of the countries don't even need a tourist visa to visit US, Canada and Mexico.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 06, 2023, 09:25:55 PM

Quote from: alegotardo on June 06, 2023, 08:22:12 PM

I'm not sure, but if your concern is the visa... as far as I'm aware, people only need to acquire a visa for the USA (which is more "complicated") and automatically they have a "free pass" to watch the games on the Mexico and Canada.

I don't agree with this. Getting a visa for Mexico or Canada may not be a big deal for US/EU citizens. But if someone from China or India want to visit these countries, in order to watch the world cup matches, they still need to go through a lot of formalities. And getting a US visa is entirely at another level. For people from the third world, it is next to impossible to get a tourist visa to the US. In short, I guess the fans will be mostly comprised of EU/US citizens for the 2026 event. Very few of those from Asia or Africa are likely to travel in order to watch the matches.

Wealthy people from third world countries will probably find ways to solve the problem, but of course the bulk of the tourists will be people with a high level of wealth - from wealthy countries such as Europe, Japan, South Korea, etc.
By the way, probably scammers who "guarantee" obtaining visas and the absence of problems in obtaining them, get rich at this World Cup, since people will always look for workarounds Grin

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Yes but although I have never been to South America, I feel like the fans can contribute a lot to their teams' successes. I know that this didn't work out very well in 2014 against Germany, but still the crowds are amazing there. But I still think that even in three years from now France is probably still the dominating force in world soccer. It is unbelievable how many young outstanding talents are spread all over European soccer. England and Spain also have quite a few, but France is all set for several years to go.

France is the same team that failed to qualify for the 1990 and 1994 editions of the FIFA World Cup. Their recent success has a lot to do with the migrant origin players. France has a very large immigrant population (10-15 million) and that gives them a bigger advantage when compared to other European teams like Spain and Germany. Also, Ligue 1 has emerged as one of the top European leagues, partly due to huge amounts of money being spent by teams like Paris Saint-Germain and Olympique de Marseille, which has allowed them to recruit top players from all around the world.

France is one of the strongest teams in the world and they won the world cup two times in 1998 when Brazil had an amazing performance and in 2018 but the last time when they face Argentina they failed to win the game and even with a player like Mbappe who is one of the strongest players and young talent they failed.
This time in 2026 I guess Franch can have a better chance because of having more experience.

I am not completely sure that saying that a team is going to do better next time because an increase in experience is a valid point in this context. Because in the end all the teams who participated in Qatar and did not win the cup have ended managed to earn experience, that does not mean they will do better next time.

Experience is nothing if we do not learn from it.

If someone asked me,.the biggest experience earning a team recently had was Brazil during the infamous 7-1 match against Germany. They learn about humbleness and that to be champions they cannot just depend on home advantage and their previous record, this is an sport which demands constant improvement.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 05, 2023, 10:16:08 PM

Quote from: shogun47 on June 05, 2023, 03:30:37 PM

Yes but although I have never been to South America, I feel like the fans can contribute a lot to their teams' successes. I know that this didn't work out very well in 2014 against Germany, but still the crowds are amazing there. But I still think that even in three years from now France is probably still the dominating force in world soccer. It is unbelievable how many young outstanding talents are spread all over European soccer. England and Spain also have quite a few, but France is all set for several years to go.

France is the same team that failed to qualify for the 1990 and 1994 editions of the FIFA World Cup. Their recent success has a lot to do with the migrant origin players. France has a very large immigrant population (10-15 million) and that gives them a bigger advantage when compared to other European teams like Spain and Germany. Also, Ligue 1 has emerged as one of the top European leagues, partly due to huge amounts of money being spent by teams like Paris Saint-Germain and Olympique de Marseille, which has allowed them to recruit top players from all around the world.

France is one of the strongest teams in the world and they won the world cup two times in 1998 when Brazil had an amazing performance and in 2018 but the last time when they face Argentina they failed to win the game and even with a player like Mbappe who is one of the strongest players and young talent they failed.
This time in 2026 I guess France can have a better chance because of having more experience.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 06, 2023, 07:23:38 PM

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The truth is, I didn't know that now they are Considering holding the World Cups in that way with the union of these three countries, now, how are 3 countries starting in this next World Cup that happen to have several different things, in terms of culture and even in the way After entering their countries, we will see how they Manage it, of course, I am sure that each Country will help one and the other so that everything looks good, and there are no problems, because where 1 country fails, they are given the responsibility of 50- 50 for the other two that remain,but that would look very bad, and I would not agree, because a World Cup Means many good things.

The implementation carried out by the three countries is a mutual agreement, and the three of them will definitely accept the number of matches based on their capabilities because this will be based on the infrastructure that each country has, also this will be the first World Cup with the number of participants increasing quite a lot so that the number of participants attending will be more as well as the number of spectators who will be directly present at the stadium.

It seems that the holding of the World Cup by several countries will become a trend in the future, because several countries that have registered to be able to host the 2030 World Cup are inviting their neighbors to become joint organizers, from the list only Morocco has volunteered without inviting other countries.
Even Saudi Arabia, which is very ambitious to be elected, invites Egypt and Greece to join the bid, three countries on different continents but they don't have a long distance and this might be a new history and maybe they will be chosen considering that 2030 will be the 100th anniversary of the World Cup so it will show the best different, but Uruguay and South American countries are also interested in getting it because they were the first host countries in 1930.
https://theathletic.com/3656183/2022/10/05/2030-world-cup-host-options/

Well, it is not a bad thing that they make this initiative, as long as what is needed is that you can enjoy a good show and that the fútbol that is generated is clean and with the best technology, because I have seen that the VAR and the The new referee shortlist has ways of continuing with corruption , so technology for me is essential for it to be done , because cheating is one of the things that is always seen in football and well, almost in all sports, because With what Argentina won, it is said that FIFA gave them everything , because that type of commentator is on the networks , memes and everything , things are currently like that.

Building joint ventures so to say in order to submit applications to host the World Cup will also take place more often because if there is one "union" consisting of three countries applying for a World Cup and all other applicants are standalone applications, there is of course also a bigger lobby behind that union (unless it is the USA alone). But the approach to giving the tournament to several countries at once is probably more popular among society than just giving it to one country every four years. In terms of equality and also integration globally between countries this approach can only help. But infrastructure is the most basic issue here as bigger World Cups need more infrastructure. Still the USA could have done it alone, but perhaps Mexico would have had problems alone and therefore they plan beforehand to get smaller, less equipped nations under the roof of the bigger ones in a timely manner.

As you said, as long as the tournament is enjoyable and going well, I am also all or it. But I expect a great World Cup 2026. Not many reasons speak against it.

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Quote from: alegotardo on June 06, 2023, 08:22:12 PM

I'm not sure, but if your concern is the visa... as far as I'm aware, people only need to acquire a visa for the USA (which is more "complicated") and automatically they have a "free pass" to watch the games on the Mexico and Canada.

I don't agree with this. Getting a visa for Mexico or Canada may not be a big deal for US/EU citizens. But if someone from China or India want to visit these countries, in order to watch the world cup matches, they still need to go through a lot of formalities. And getting a US visa is entirely at another level. For people from the third world, it is next to impossible to get a tourist visa to the US. In short, I guess the fans will be mostly comprised of EU/US citizens for the 2026 event. Very few of those from Asia or Africa are likely to travel in order to watch the matches.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 21, 2023, 10:18:51 PM

The truth is, I didn't know that now they are Considering holding the World Cups in that way with the union of these three countries, now, how are 3 countries starting in this next World Cup that happen to have several different things, in terms of culture and even in the way After entering their countries, we will see how they Manage it, of course, I am sure that each Country will help one and the other so that everything looks good, and there are no problems, because where 1 country fails, they are given the responsibility of 50- 50 for the other two that remain,but that would look very bad, and I would not agree, because a World Cup Means many good things.

I don't believe this is a problem.
The three countries have the technical capacity and competence necessary to comply with all FIFA requirements in order to have the stadiums and other infrastructure ready long before the games start.

About strategic "alignment", I believe that USA, Mexico and Canada have plenty, not only to host a world cup but also for any other political issues that involve them.

I'm not sure, but if your concern is the visa... as far as I'm aware, people only need to acquire a visa for the USA (which is more "complicated") and automatically they have a "free pass" to watch the games on the Mexico and Canada.

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Quote from: Strongkored on May 22, 2023, 03:11:54 AM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on May 21, 2023, 10:18:51 PM

The truth is, I didn't know that now they are Considering holding the World Cups in that way with the union of these three countries, now, how are 3 countries starting in this next World Cup that happen to have several different things, in terms of culture and even in the way After entering their countries, we will see how they Manage it, of course, I am sure that each Country will help one and the other so that everything looks good, and there are no problems, because where 1 country fails, they are given the responsibility of 50- 50 for the other two that remain,but that would look very bad, and I would not agree, because a World Cup Means many good things.

The implementation carried out by the three countries is a mutual agreement, and the three of them will definitely accept the number of matches based on their capabilities because this will be based on the infrastructure that each country has, also this will be the first World Cup with the number of participants increasing quite a lot so that the number of participants attending will be more as well as the number of spectators who will be directly present at the stadium.

It seems that the holding of the World Cup by several countries will become a trend in the future, because several countries that have registered to be able to host the 2030 World Cup are inviting their neighbors to become joint organizers, from the list only Morocco has volunteered without inviting other countries.
Even Saudi Arabia, which is very ambitious to be elected, invites Egypt and Greece to join the bid, three countries on different continents but they don't have a long distance and this might be a new history and maybe they will be chosen considering that 2030 will be the 100th anniversary of the World Cup so it will show the best different, but Uruguay and South American countries are also interested in getting it because they were the first host countries in 1930.
https://theathletic.com/3656183/2022/10/05/2030-world-cup-host-options/

Well, it is not a bad thing that they make this initiative, as long as what is needed is that you can enjoy a good show and that the fútbol that is generated is clean and with the best technology, because I have seen that the VAR and the The new referee shortlist has ways of continuing with corruption , so technology for me is essential for it to be done , because cheating is one of the things that is always seen in football and well, almost in all sports, because With what Argentina won, it is said that FIFA gave them everything , because that type of commentator is on the networks , memes and everything , things are currently like that.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on June 05, 2023, 01:28:40 AM

Football fans will benefit the most from the next World Cup. Because maybe the next World Cup will not make the countries as difficult as the Qatar World Cup. This allows football fans to watch and enjoy every match with freedom.

Bold of you to assume football fans did not enjoy the last world cup. The Qatar world cup was among the best world cups ever. I have watched different world cups and the 2022 world cup was the best for me. A lot of controversies, yes we know, but that did not stop anybody from enjoying the world cup. Most of the controversies where just propaganda. What's best was to just block out the negative energy and just enjoy the sport.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 06, 2023, 01:52:06 AM

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Let's go step by step here.

France has a very large immigrant population, which is true. But why exactly does that fact give them an advantage over other nations in Europe in regards to soccer? Germany has a bigger population than France and as we know, Germany also has a lot of players that have an international background. Often times they are half Turkish or at least still have a Turkish passport. What exactly makes the difference here in your opinion? I am not saying that France doesn't benefit from migrated players, they do. But Germany does as well and is much worse than France right now.

Ligue 1 emerged as one of European top leagues you claim. I ask differently: how many top leagues does Europe have in your opinion, which of them is France and where was Ligue 1 before huge amounts of money were spent on PSG?

Germany has a population of around 3 million Turks, if I am not wrong. And there are players like İlkay Gündoğan and Mesut Özil who have dominated the football scene in Germany. But France still has more number of migrant origin people (maybe 4-5 times). And another factor is that most of the migrants in Germany are Turks, Bosnians, Afghans.etc and they are not that well known for their football skills like Congolese or Ghanaian immigrants.

I am not that familiar with Ligue 1. Before players like Neymar, Kylian Mbappé and Messi were signed by Paris Saint-Germain, I hardly ever followed any of the matches in Ligue 1. I guess it was at a lower level when compared to EPL or Serie A. But now Ligue 1 is one of the top leagues.

You haven't been wrong when you said that France benefits from players that could in theory also play for another country, mainly African countries. But immigration is now an integral part of the presence even though politically there have been issues as to how this immigration came to happen in the past. But I think we would go too far back if we still keep judging that and the players also made their decision as to what country they want to play for. From that point of view it's all good. But that advantage still has not led to France being the champions all the time. They are only ranked 6th or share 5th with Uruguay and Argentina, Italy, German and Brazil are in front of them. But right now they have a huge pool of talent, which is not normal I guess that a national team has access to so many resourceful players. Lucky France! Wink

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France definitely looks as dominant as it gets, and to be fair we are talking about a team that has stars that are under 25 years old, some players like Griezmann, Grioud, Kante might be getting older, but there are still a lot of players who are amazingly talented at this point and that's why I do not think that they will be any bad anytime.

To be fair that doesn't guarantee that they will win, they may end up losing as well but they are definitely a good team without a doubt. Not only this world cup, but they will be good at 2030 as well, they are that good. Which is why I would say they are one of the biggest candidates for 2026 as well, but I think at 2030 it will be their biggest prime and could be soooo much better.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 05, 2023, 03:48:29 AM

America is hosting the world cup again after years.
The last time they hosted the world cup was back in 1994 when Brazil's national team won the world cup and they had many famous players like Romario and there we had a great experience in 1994. Once again America hosting it and I hope to see the same.

If I remember correctly, the Latin American teams were very lucky in the World Championships on their continent and mostly unlucky outside of their time zone (Argentina won the World Cup for the first time in a "foreign" land). If this pattern continues, then Brazil will indeed have increased chances for the title, although in fact there, starting from the quarter-finals, the percentage of players playing in Europe will be close to 100.

This is true but in a way I have always found the pattern to be odd, after all the majority of the soccer players of Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay, which are the only three Latin American teams which have won the world cup, play at Europe or some other country with a different time zone, so they should suffer the same kind of jet lag and problems to adapt that any other player may suffer, so this is the result of some psychological boost they get by playing on their continent or the support of the fans is so influential that it is enough to change the outcome on some tight games.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 05, 2023, 02:24:58 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on June 05, 2023, 03:48:29 AM

America is hosting the world cup again after years.
The last time they hosted the world cup was back in 1994 when Brazil's national team won the world cup and they had many famous players like Romario and there we had a great experience in 1994. Once again America hosting it and I hope to see the same.

If I remember correctly, the Latin American teams were very lucky in the World Championships on their continent and mostly unlucky outside of their time zone (Argentina won the World Cup for the first time in a "foreign" land). If this pattern continues, then Brazil will indeed have increased chances for the title, although in fact there, starting from the quarter-finals, the percentage of players playing in Europe will be close to 100.

Yes, but also not a very good memory for Argentina in USA soil, losing the copa america against chile a few years ago , and also losing Maradona in the 1994 WC for being positive in a drug testing. Plus Brazil being champion.

And when we talk about latinamerican teams, its always the same, only Brazil and Argentina.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 03, 2023, 08:09:25 AM

but then where is the evidence of what I'm talking about? here:

Messi:

32 games, 16 goals, 16 assists

Mbappe:

33 games, 28 goals, 5 assists

Haaland:

35 games, 36 goals, 8 assists

these are statistics of just the games in the leagues they play in, there is nothing about cups or the European league, and these players scored fewer goals from penalties and are playing against very strong opponents

and now look at ronaldo:

16 games, 14 goals, 2 assists

1 - scored many penalties
2 - has few assists even playing in a much lower league
3 - only has 14 goals even playing in a league without quality and against very weak opponents

ronaldo in the world cup was off, ronaldo in manchester united was off and now in this lower league it's the same thing, but as the arabs are specialists in marketing they are pushing ronaldo's image to look good

I am not arguing against it as Messi is the best player in the world in my opinion and he has been the best for a very long time. He would have been the best in my opinion even if he didn't win the World Cup. The issue with this World Cup title and whether or not someone is the best is that some players will never win a World Cup title. What happens if there is this amazing player from Luxembourg? Will he ever win the World Cup? This is just theory, but there is a chance that very small countries raise a very great talent. Can that player never objectively be the best because he was born in the wrong country? That is why I dislike the discussion about the World Cup title and that someone must win it.

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Quote from: shogun47 on June 05, 2023, 03:30:37 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on June 05, 2023, 02:24:58 PM

If I remember correctly, the Latin American teams were very lucky in the World Championships on their continent and mostly unlucky outside of their time zone (Argentina won the World Cup for the first time in a "foreign" land). If this pattern continues, then Brazil will indeed have increased chances for the title, although in fact there, starting from the quarter-finals, the percentage of players playing in Europe will be close to 100.

Yes but although I have never been to South America, I feel like the fans can contribute a lot to their teams' successes. I know that this didn't work out very well in 2014 against Germany, but still the crowds are amazing there. But I still think that even in three years from now France is probably still the dominating force in world soccer. It is unbelievable how many young outstanding talents are spread all over European soccer. England and Spain also have quite a few, but France is all set for several years to go.

I haven’t been to Brazil either and unfortunately I won’t be able to get to that legendary Maracana, which could accommodate 200,000+ spectators. I would like to know what is the atmosphere at the game when so many people are watching it live Cheesy

France looks dominant and, unlike Spain in the early 10s, the end of this dominance is not visible - they have enough players in every generation who can win everything. But due to the fact that the tournaments are short and the randomness is high, I think we will see not only France on the podium.

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Quote from: shogun47 on June 05, 2023, 03:30:37 PM

Yes but although I have never been to South America, I feel like the fans can contribute a lot to their teams' successes. I know that this didn't work out very well in 2014 against Germany, but still the crowds are amazing there. But I still think that even in three years from now France is probably still the dominating force in world soccer. It is unbelievable how many young outstanding talents are spread all over European soccer. England and Spain also have quite a few, but France is all set for several years to go.

France is the same team that failed to qualify for the 1990 and 1994 editions of the FIFA World Cup. Their recent success has a lot to do with the migrant origin players. France has a very large immigrant population (10-15 million) and that gives them a bigger advantage when compared to other European teams like Spain and Germany. Also, Ligue 1 has emerged as one of the top European leagues, partly due to huge amounts of money being spent by teams like Paris Saint-Germain and Olympique de Marseille, which has allowed them to recruit top players from all around the world.

I would agree upon your idea about Paris Saint-Germain and Olympique de Marseille, spending huge amount of money to compete with teams like Bayern Munich or Real Madrid and such. In past like 10 or 15 years ago French teams were lot behind of Spanish and English. I am not sure immigrants helped French a lot in that sense tho. I mean how do we define immigrant? There are many people currently living in France because their origin nations were colonized by French. Most of those kids grew up like French people, they probably didn't even know how life is in Algeria or Cameroon etc. I think French national team is better because they found golden generation suddenly which Spanish had and lost. Its bit lucky for them.

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