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The question is whether Messi is still fit enough for a new world championship. He is so relaxed that he can always participate, despite his age and possible lack of fitness. But what does Messi want? I think he can only enjoy football if he starts playing at the highest level. And that will not work when he gets a little older and will become a wiselplayer, for example. Messi will never accept that. It's not for nothing that they say that you should always stop top sport when you've reached your peak.
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Messi was the leader on key possessions made for his teammates as well, in all of Europe's top 10 league, that's basically the point here. I believe that we should be looking at Messi as a new light, maybe he won't score as much as he used to, but he still has his mind and he still has skill to pass the ball to the right person with the right way.

You do not need to be fast runner to pass very well, you can be slow and you would still pass very well if you are talented and he is talented. He is from the era of players who retired at 35, he prolonged this much and still playing very well. I agree that any team that can afford to get him will try to get him without a doubt. I can see him playing even at City at this age even if many disagree, dude is just great. So him not being in the world cup is impossible.
Even if Lionel Messi plays in the next World Cup, his demand will not decrease. Because Lionel Messi is a playmaker, he is able to create extraordinary attacks by standing in his place. But whether Lionel Messi plays in the next World Cup is his personal decision. So far we have not heard any official news that Lionel Messi will retire from the national team.
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Messi was the leader on key possessions made for his teammates as well, in all of Europe's top 10 league, that's basically the point here. I believe that we should be looking at Messi as a new light, maybe he won't score as much as he used to, but he still has his mind and he still has skill to pass the ball to the right person with the right way.

You do not need to be fast runner to pass very well, you can be slow and you would still pass very well if you are talented and he is talented. He is from the era of players who retired at 35, he prolonged this much and still playing very well. I agree that any team that can afford to get him will try to get him without a doubt. I can see him playing even at City at this age even if many disagree, dude is just great. So him not being in the world cup is impossible.
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To even consider Messi could be remotely bad in anything could be just kidding yourself. I can easily say that even the rivalry with Ronaldo was a bit fabricated if you ask me, dude had 90 goal year, 90!

He is by far the best player I have ever seen, the most skilled and talented one as well, he had great teammates at times and won a lot with them, some seasons the team wasn't all that good, but he never chased to go to a good team, he stayed with his team until he was already quite old, and then he started to move, he could have played anywhere, any good team in the world, and make them better and won a lot with them, but he preferred to stay in Barcelona. He is the best footballer the world has ever seen to me, and I hope to see him during next world cup as well, no matter his age.
Lionel Messi is without a doubt one of the best players the world has ever seen and is still actively playing. Decreasing for a player is a natural thing, especially because it is constrained by the age factor. But I don't agree if I have to compare players, because after all they have their own strengths and weaknesses. Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo for example, Lionel Messi is superior to Cristiano Ronaldo in some respects, and in other respects Cristiano Ronaldo is better than Lionel Messi. And for me they are the best players out there, despite their recent dip.
I don't  care about the performance of the two players right now, all I know they are both great players and they have really made impact in football, so if they are not performing well due to age now it is not their fault, it is just nature and normal.  A player can't show quality performance all through the career.
As I said before, a decrease in performance is a natural thing for a player, in fact I have never seen players able to perform stably every season. Something extraordinary was actually shown by these two players, they were able to maintain their performance for more than a decade and that was an extraordinary thing for a player. Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo have given color to football today, regardless of the fans of the two players who compare the two, but they really deserve the title of legend in football.



Recently United States of America Playing Football very well. They Host  Fifa World Cup 2026 it will be Turning point for USA football. I think USA people will more interested about football. I think Football will more popular in USA jone. Canada and Mexico also co host of Fifa world cap 2026. But most matches will be played in USA. And Fifa increased total team it will very helpful for new country’s. I know that till now 32 country play Fifa world cap. But from 2026 that's means Coming would cop 48 team will play Fifa world cap. It is very good news i think. Overall I think American Hosting Fifa world cap 2026 will great. Best wishes For USA, Canada and Mexico
Hopefully they can be a good host and successfully organize the World Cup with 48 countries participating for the first time after only 32 countries participated previously. It's true what you say, that hosting the World Cup will be the opening door to make football popular in their country.
I also hope that the 2026 World Cup will not cause pros and cons as happened before, at the Qatar World Cup. I mean there must be pros and cons, but don't make normal things like this get an exaggerated response.
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Recently United States of America Playing Football very well. They Host  Fifa World Cup 2026 it will be Turning point for USA football. I think USA people will more interested about football. I think Football will more popular in USA jone. Canada and Mexico also co host of Fifa world cap 2026. But most matches will be played in USA. And Fifa increased total team it will very helpful for new country’s. I know that till now 32 country play Fifa world cap. But from 2026 that's means Coming would cop 48 team will play Fifa world cap. It is very good news i think. Overall I think American Hosting Fifa world cap 2026 will great. Best wishes For USA, Canada and Mexico
Yeah with the increased number of Nations playing there, it will be definitely interesting but they have to do better than what Qatar did in 2022 World Cup. Here we have 3 countries to deal with security issues in the first place but also improve infrastructure and the movement of ten thousands of people each time. It will not be easy.
For the USA, soccer come in the second place for them after the American football even though they already hosted an old version of World Cup but this doesn't help to make it the best game there. This time it might be better since US team is way better than what used to be.
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Recently United States of America Playing Football very well. They Host  Fifa World Cup 2026 it will be Turning point for USA football. I think USA people will more interested about football. I think Football will more popular in USA jone. Canada and Mexico also co host of Fifa world cap 2026. But most matches will be played in USA. And Fifa increased total team it will very helpful for new country’s. I know that till now 32 country play Fifa world cap. But from 2026 that's means Coming would cop 48 team will play Fifa world cap. It is very good news i think. Overall I think American Hosting Fifa world cap 2026 will great. Best wishes For USA, Canada and Mexico
It doesn't matter which country will host the next World Cup. The main thing is that football fans get something great, that is, even if it is not on par with the Qatar World Cup, that football fans get a good quality of everything. However, we expect to get some freedom from Qatar in terms of rules and regulations.
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Recently United States of America Playing Football very well. They Host  Fifa World Cup 2026 it will be Turning point for USA football. I think USA people will more interested about football. I think Football will more popular in USA jone. Canada and Mexico also co host of Fifa world cap 2026. But most matches will be played in USA. And Fifa increased total team it will very helpful for new country’s. I know that till now 32 country play Fifa world cap. But from 2026 that's means Coming would cop 48 team will play Fifa world cap. It is very good news i think. Overall I think American Hosting Fifa world cap 2026 will great. Best wishes For USA, Canada and Mexico
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I also agree that Messi could still be able to lead the team at the 2026 Cup. Whether he is still able to play most or all the games or not remains to be seen, but going with the team could still be beneficial for everyone. Maybe he is one of those playing coaches and substitutes himself in when a free kick possibility comes up shortly before the game ends and he kicks it in! Cheesy
If Messi is still playing at the time then Argentina needs to take him to the world cup, after all there are many spots available and many players never enter the field, so Argentina can allow itself to waste a spot and take Messi to the cup, after all even if he is not at the top of his game there are skills which in theory should never go deteriorate, like the ability to score a penalty kick, so if the Argentinian team finds itself in a difficult position in which they are forced by their opponents to the penalty shootouts then having Messi on the bench ready to enter the field is a massive advantage.
Lionel Messi has not officially announced his retirement. Until now, many people think that Lionel Messi will play in the next World Cup. But I think Lionel Messi will decide whether to play in the next World Cup after checking his performance after being joined by another club except PSG.

Actually, I think I already read somewhere that Messi stated that he would like to play in the next World Cup, but I don't know if it was his real statement or speculation.
However, I think it is obvious how much it means to both Messi and Ronaldo to play for their national teams and if they are physically fit and healthy in 2026 and continue to play football at a high professional level as they are now, I am confident that we will see both Messi and Ronaldo at the next World Cup.
With other football stars like Mbappe and Haaland, it will be another fantastic World Cup for the fans  Grin

For Lionel Messi, he is vocal that he will still play in the upcoming World Cup because their team is the defending champs and I strongly think that it will be his last dance regardless of the result. Some are viewing it as a speculation because nothing is guaranteed for now as there are still few more years to wait and I cannot blame them because I also have the same view about the matter. For CR7, he is also vocal about the upcoming Euro Cup to be his last dance because if he chose to play towards the next world cup, he will be more of a liability rather than an asset to the team as he is much older that Messi.
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Yes, this is true, but there is a logical explanation for this - many residents of third world countries after entering the United States will "get lost" and stay there illegally. By the way, I don’t know how it is now, but earlier, for everyone entering the US legally, vaccination (from covid) was mandatory, and for illegal immigrants who crossed the border and demanded citizenship/asylum, there was no such requirement  Grin Thus, it was safer to enter the US illegally.

There are many people who think letting America host the 2026 world cup was a wrong decision and that they will have problems visiting this country to watch the World Cup games but I disagree and I think since America got the experience of hosting other great tournaments, they won't disappoint us and we are going to see a better world cup than what we saw in Qatar.

I am 100% sure that in terms of organization in the US everything will be at the top level. In terms of the quality of the competitions held (probably in all sports), this is the country No. 1 and, of course, they will also hold the World Cup at the highest level. But the problem with a visa is a problem of a different order, and there will definitely be dissatisfied people who, for one reason or another, will not be able to get it.

Hopefully, the FIFA council can find some ways to resolve this kind of problem because World Cup being a business, they sure want as many people as possible to see and watch the event because that will also mean that there's a lot of money that will flow to their pockets. Although I doubt that they can really fix it as this problem already falls down to the US and Canada's jurisdiction because safety and security must be ensured first. 
It is somewhat obvious that what they say that when the World Cup ends,  some will want to stay there as illegals , in any case, there are many citizens of other countries who are in the USA and work, taking care that the police catch them and deport them, as far as As far as I am concerned, I think that this will be very difficult for the USA to control, because there is clearly a lot of migration, from Venezuela they go to Colombia and they prefer to go through the Darien jungle, which is so dangerous, but even so they are looking for the American dream, now if they put As a resource for the World Cup, they can easily stay in the USA with many Excuses, and since the US elections are coming in 2024, it will be Interesting how they are going to handle this.
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To even consider Messi could be remotely bad in anything could be just kidding yourself. I can easily say that even the rivalry with Ronaldo was a bit fabricated if you ask me, dude had 90 goal year, 90!

He is by far the best player I have ever seen, the most skilled and talented one as well, he had great teammates at times and won a lot with them, some seasons the team wasn't all that good, but he never chased to go to a good team, he stayed with his team until he was already quite old, and then he started to move, he could have played anywhere, any good team in the world, and make them better and won a lot with them, but he preferred to stay in Barcelona. He is the best footballer the world has ever seen to me, and I hope to see him during next world cup as well, no matter his age.
Lionel Messi is without a doubt one of the best players the world has ever seen and is still actively playing. Decreasing for a player is a natural thing, especially because it is constrained by the age factor. But I don't agree if I have to compare players, because after all they have their own strengths and weaknesses. Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo for example, Lionel Messi is superior to Cristiano Ronaldo in some respects, and in other respects Cristiano Ronaldo is better than Lionel Messi. And for me they are the best players out there, despite their recent dip.
I don't  care about the performance of the two players right now, all I know they are both great players and they have really made impact in football, so if they are not performing well due to age now it is not their fault, it is just nature and normal.  A player can't show quality performance all through the career.
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I also agree that Messi could still be able to lead the team at the 2026 Cup. Whether he is still able to play most or all the games or not remains to be seen, but going with the team could still be beneficial for everyone. Maybe he is one of those playing coaches and substitutes himself in when a free kick possibility comes up shortly before the game ends and he kicks it in! Cheesy
If Messi is still playing at the time then Argentina needs to take him to the world cup, after all there are many spots available and many players never enter the field, so Argentina can allow itself to waste a spot and take Messi to the cup, after all even if he is not at the top of his game there are skills which in theory should never go deteriorate, like the ability to score a penalty kick, so if the Argentinian team finds itself in a difficult position in which they are forced by their opponents to the penalty shootouts then having Messi on the bench ready to enter the field is a massive advantage.
Lionel Messi has not officially announced his retirement. Until now, many people think that Lionel Messi will play in the next World Cup. But I think Lionel Messi will decide whether to play in the next World Cup after checking his performance after being joined by another club except PSG.

Actually, I think I already read somewhere that Messi stated that he would like to play in the next World Cup, but I don't know if it was his real statement or speculation.
However, I think it is obvious how much it means to both Messi and Ronaldo to play for their national teams and if they are physically fit and healthy in 2026 and continue to play football at a high professional level as they are now, I am confident that we will see both Messi and Ronaldo at the next World Cup.
With other football stars like Mbappe and Haaland, it will be another fantastic World Cup for the fans  Grin
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To even consider Messi could be remotely bad in anything could be just kidding yourself. I can easily say that even the rivalry with Ronaldo was a bit fabricated if you ask me, dude had 90 goal year, 90!

He is by far the best player I have ever seen, the most skilled and talented one as well, he had great teammates at times and won a lot with them, some seasons the team wasn't all that good, but he never chased to go to a good team, he stayed with his team until he was already quite old, and then he started to move, he could have played anywhere, any good team in the world, and make them better and won a lot with them, but he preferred to stay in Barcelona. He is the best footballer the world has ever seen to me, and I hope to see him during next world cup as well, no matter his age.
Lionel Messi is without a doubt one of the best players the world has ever seen and is still actively playing. Decreasing for a player is a natural thing, especially because it is constrained by the age factor. But I don't agree if I have to compare players, because after all they have their own strengths and weaknesses. Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo for example, Lionel Messi is superior to Cristiano Ronaldo in some respects, and in other respects Cristiano Ronaldo is better than Lionel Messi. And for me they are the best players out there, despite their recent dip.
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look, messi if he lowered his salary any team in europe would run after messi, any team even in real madrid messi would be a king if he were to play there, even mbappe is a great player that any team would want him, o same applies to haaland's case... but what about ronaldo? no one would want him. but then where is the evidence of what I'm talking about? here:

Messi:

32 games, 16 goals, 16 assists

Mbappe:

33 games, 28 goals, 5 assists

Haaland:

35 games, 36 goals, 8 assists
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You write nonsense. Maybe you will start comparing Messi with those who are already retired (does not play at all even in weak leagues)? Then his statistics will look even better  Grin
In fact Messi is playing at a normal level, nothing outstanding - he plays in an absolutely dominant team in Ligue 1 where they don't even have one competitor so it's no wonder he has average stats. But in important games (like the 1/8 finals of the Champions League) against serious opponents, he goes into stealth mode and has his 0 + 0 two years in a row. A little weak for a GOAT, huh?
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To even consider Messi could be remotely bad in anything could be just kidding yourself. I can easily say that even the rivalry with Ronaldo was a bit fabricated if you ask me, dude had 90 goal year, 90!

He is by far the best player I have ever seen, the most skilled and talented one as well, he had great teammates at times and won a lot with them, some seasons the team wasn't all that good, but he never chased to go to a good team, he stayed with his team until he was already quite old, and then he started to move, he could have played anywhere, any good team in the world, and make them better and won a lot with them, but he preferred to stay in Barcelona. He is the best footballer the world has ever seen to me, and I hope to see him during next world cup as well, no matter his age.
If Lionel Messi had not joined PSG, he would have been able to give better performance by now if he had joined another club. Because I think Lionel Messi could not match himself in the PSG team. Hopefully Lionel Messi will join a good club next.
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To even consider Messi could be remotely bad in anything could be just kidding yourself. I can easily say that even the rivalry with Ronaldo was a bit fabricated if you ask me, dude had 90 goal year, 90!

He is by far the best player I have ever seen, the most skilled and talented one as well, he had great teammates at times and won a lot with them, some seasons the team wasn't all that good, but he never chased to go to a good team, he stayed with his team until he was already quite old, and then he started to move, he could have played anywhere, any good team in the world, and make them better and won a lot with them, but he preferred to stay in Barcelona. He is the best footballer the world has ever seen to me, and I hope to see him during next world cup as well, no matter his age.
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I hate the discussion about a player being the GOAT only if he wins the World Cup because there can be amazing players who can't win the World Cup because of there nationality. Ronaldo is one of the best players who ever played this game and it doesn't matter whether he won a World Cup.

in my opinion, a player like messi who has won everything is something that is difficult to see, and it is also clear that reaching the world cup final and having contributed a lot for your national team to become champion makes this player the best in the world world, but there are some cases that are an exception, which is the case of the mbappe, he was carrying the team in all the world cup games, it was visible how the mbappe was the center of the france, and he would not give up, if the france had won the world cup i think it would have been fair to put mbappe as the best player in the world and currently messi manages to play very well in relation to cristiano ronaldo and i'm not just saying that, reality shows that

look, messi if he lowered his salary any team in europe would run after messi, any team even in real madrid messi would be a king if he were to play there, even mbappe is a great player that any team would want him, o same applies to haaland's case... but what about ronaldo? no one would want him. but then where is the evidence of what I'm talking about? here:

Messi:

32 games, 16 goals, 16 assists

Mbappe:

33 games, 28 goals, 5 assists

Haaland:

35 games, 36 goals, 8 assists

these are statistics of just the games in the leagues they play in, there is nothing about cups or the European league, and these players scored fewer goals from penalties and are playing against very strong opponents

and now look at ronaldo:

16 games, 14 goals, 2 assists

1 - scored many penalties
2 - has few assists even playing in a much lower league
3 - only has 14 goals even playing in a league without quality and against very weak opponents

ronaldo in the world cup was off, ronaldo in manchester united was off and now in this lower league it's the same thing, but as the arabs are specialists in marketing they are pushing ronaldo's image to look good
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I also agree that Messi could still be able to lead the team at the 2026 Cup. Whether he is still able to play most or all the games or not remains to be seen, but going with the team could still be beneficial for everyone. Maybe he is one of those playing coaches and substitutes himself in when a free kick possibility comes up shortly before the game ends and he kicks it in! Cheesy
If Messi is still playing at the time then Argentina needs to take him to the world cup, after all there are many spots available and many players never enter the field, so Argentina can allow itself to waste a spot and take Messi to the cup, after all even if he is not at the top of his game there are skills which in theory should never go deteriorate, like the ability to score a penalty kick, so if the Argentinian team finds itself in a difficult position in which they are forced by their opponents to the penalty shootouts then having Messi on the bench ready to enter the field is a massive advantage.
Lionel Messi has not officially announced his retirement. Until now, many people think that Lionel Messi will play in the next World Cup. But I think Lionel Messi will decide whether to play in the next World Cup after checking his performance after being joined by another club except PSG.

We should not wait to see Messi announce something about his retirement at this time because the Messi we know is far from getting announced about getting retired. He had an amazing performance with his national team in the world cup and he had a good performance in PSG even with the negative effect they had there.

Freaky statistic in my opinion. If a player made 5 successful dribbles, but it was 5 successful attempts out of 100, then all these actions were at a loss for the team. Miracles of univariate analysis when, with the right approach, you can achieve any result you want and pass off bad indicators as good ones. I'm not saying that Messi was consistently bad, but such statistics are only annoying.
Well, we all know that Messi does not want to continue at PSG, obviously PSG has a lot of power worldwide, a lot of money, any article that they can filter in the news to justify a possible PSG departure is possible (this is also mere speculation ) now if they say it as a measure to discredit the Argentine national soccer team a bit, it is something else, it is known that in Europe it hurts a lot that France has not won, things can go in that direction, although it is not something very nice, but It is quite possible, players like Messi, CR7 make enemies out of nowhere, just for playing well, sometimes it is to cause more shock or it can be mere envy.

I don’t know what you meant (maybe you didn’t understand what I wrote), these statistics are just in favor of Messi, but I see that it is completely divorced from reality and does not mean anything. I don’t think that PSG is interested in somehow influencing the reputation of the Argentina national team or Messi - for them, his departure is a competent mutually beneficial decision. He's not worth the money they pay him.

Could be right and could be wrong, Paris Saint-Germain might save a lot of money about Messi's departure because it will be too much to ask that he will still play like he is still in his younger days as he is now getting older as the goes by but that also gives the Paris Saint-Germain a negative reputation because somehow, their power is not that good anymore, I know that they still have a lot of great players like Neymar, Hakimi and Mbappe, but with Messi's departure, that will certainly make a difference.

In PSG they had enough money to keep any player they wanted but something money is not everything you need, Messi gets some respect from people which is not something he gets.
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I also agree that Messi could still be able to lead the team at the 2026 Cup. Whether he is still able to play most or all the games or not remains to be seen, but going with the team could still be beneficial for everyone. Maybe he is one of those playing coaches and substitutes himself in when a free kick possibility comes up shortly before the game ends and he kicks it in! Cheesy
If Messi is still playing at the time then Argentina needs to take him to the world cup, after all there are many spots available and many players never enter the field, so Argentina can allow itself to waste a spot and take Messi to the cup, after all even if he is not at the top of his game there are skills which in theory should never go deteriorate, like the ability to score a penalty kick, so if the Argentinian team finds itself in a difficult position in which they are forced by their opponents to the penalty shootouts then having Messi on the bench ready to enter the field is a massive advantage.
Lionel Messi has not officially announced his retirement. Until now, many people think that Lionel Messi will play in the next World Cup. But I think Lionel Messi will decide whether to play in the next World Cup after checking his performance after being joined by another club except PSG.
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I also agree that Messi could still be able to lead the team at the 2026 Cup. Whether he is still able to play most or all the games or not remains to be seen, but going with the team could still be beneficial for everyone. Maybe he is one of those playing coaches and substitutes himself in when a free kick possibility comes up shortly before the game ends and he kicks it in! Cheesy
If Messi is still playing at the time then Argentina needs to take him to the world cup, after all there are many spots available and many players never enter the field, so Argentina can allow itself to waste a spot and take Messi to the cup, after all even if he is not at the top of his game there are skills which in theory should never go deteriorate, like the ability to score a penalty kick, so if the Argentinian team finds itself in a difficult position in which they are forced by their opponents to the penalty shootouts then having Messi on the bench ready to enter the field is a massive advantage.
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Freaky statistic in my opinion. If a player made 5 successful dribbles, but it was 5 successful attempts out of 100, then all these actions were at a loss for the team. Miracles of univariate analysis when, with the right approach, you can achieve any result you want and pass off bad indicators as good ones. I'm not saying that Messi was consistently bad, but such statistics are only annoying.
Well, we all know that Messi does not want to continue at PSG, obviously PSG has a lot of power worldwide, a lot of money, any article that they can filter in the news to justify a possible PSG departure is possible (this is also mere speculation ) now if they say it as a measure to discredit the Argentine national soccer team a bit, it is something else, it is known that in Europe it hurts a lot that France has not won, things can go in that direction, although it is not something very nice, but It is quite possible, players like Messi, CR7 make enemies out of nowhere, just for playing well, sometimes it is to cause more shock or it can be mere envy.

I don’t know what you meant (maybe you didn’t understand what I wrote), these statistics are just in favor of Messi, but I see that it is completely divorced from reality and does not mean anything. I don’t think that PSG is interested in somehow influencing the reputation of the Argentina national team or Messi - for them, his departure is a competent mutually beneficial decision. He's not worth the money they pay him.

Could be right and could be wrong, Paris Saint-Germain might save a lot of money about Messi's departure because it will be too much to ask that he will still play like he is still in his younger days as he is now getting older as the goes by but that also gives the Paris Saint-Germain a negative reputation because somehow, their power is not that good anymore, I know that they still have a lot of great players like Neymar, Hakimi and Mbappe, but with Messi's departure, that will certainly make a difference.
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