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To phil and citronick and any other moderately large miners by yourself, how do you guys have all this stuff setup? I have two miners going in my basement, but i'm basically out of breakers that I can hook up so much wattage to. Do you guys run all this stuff at home? Do you rent space somewhere? Do you have a massive breaker box that's just full of extra breakers for more computers? I am constantly wanting to expand but find power delivery to be a major limiting factor in the future.
I could be an ass and say read all five threads and the info is there or google is your best friend. but I will give you the abc for usa mining.
your home uses 120 volt but there is a huge chance you can upgrade 1 circuit to 240 volts.
in the garage the basement the attic with a good fan somewhere to no have to hear the noise.
a 30 amp 240 volt circuit will max at 30 x 240 = 7200 watts derate by 80% for 24/7/365 running and you have
.8 x 7200 = 5760 watts
that would be enough for five 1100 watt rigs.
that circuit is wired with 10 gauge wire to a plug like this
https://www.amazon.com/Leviton-2620-Receptacle-Industrial-Grounding/dp/B00002NAT9/ref=sr_1_2?
with a plate like this
https://www.amazon.com/Leviton-84020-40-Receptacle-Wallplate-Stainless/dp/B000HEFFIQ/ref=pd_bxgy_60_img_3?
next a pdu
https://www.amazon.com/CyberPower-PDU30BHVT8R-8-Outlets-L6-30P-Distribution/dp/B003KBIEGS/ref=pd_sbs_23_2?
then some cables
https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-IEC-320-C14-IEC-320-C13-P005-006/dp/B0027JTJ22/ref=sr_1_3?
most usa homes could do this if they are newer say 1990 or newer. with a 150amp or higher circuit box.
Don't get me wrong, good on you for trying, but for me mining has to be worth the effort.
It's like those new usb stick-scrypt miners in the other thread... 60 bucks per stick, 3-5 MH/s per stick, and all these guys screaming "Fukkin amazing!! I'll take TWO!!!" LoL. Gonna net'em 50 cents a day!
It's like those new usb stick-scrypt miners in the other thread... 60 bucks per stick, 3-5 MH/s per stick, and all these guys screaming "Fukkin amazing!! I'll take TWO!!!" LoL. Gonna net'em 50 cents a day!
I like the ryZen 1800x build.
I am using 216 watts at kwatt meter.
I am doing 500 for xmr and with 1 Evga 1070 I am doing 430 for zec
This is about 1.40 usd for the CPU
This is about 2.10 Usd for the gpu
About 5 kwatt s a day at my summer price of 20 cents is 1 usd
So I am netting 2.50 usd
...which basically is f@ck all! :-D I am using 216 watts at kwatt meter.
I am doing 500 for xmr and with 1 Evga 1070 I am doing 430 for zec
This is about 1.40 usd for the CPU
This is about 2.10 Usd for the gpu
About 5 kwatt s a day at my summer price of 20 cents is 1 usd
So I am netting 2.50 usd
To phil and citronick and any other moderately large miners by yourself, how do you guys have all this stuff setup? I have two miners going in my basement, but i'm basically out of breakers that I can hook up so much wattage to. Do you guys run all this stuff at home? Do you rent space somewhere? Do you have a massive breaker box that's just full of extra breakers for more computers? I am constantly wanting to expand but find power delivery to be a major limiting factor in the future.
I have the option to purchase Bitmain Antminer D3 for USD4,000.00 with late November delivery.
Based on current difficulty and prices, breakeven in 30days at daily earnings of USD141.00
I am worried about the increase in difficulty by end of November i.e. 10x current difficulty such that daily earning drops to 14.10.
What do you guys think? Is the 10x difficulty increase conservative or way out of whack?
Thanks for any insights.
The good risers - no problems --- the bad ones - a lot of problems. 
The bad ones, I need to replace them with better risers or offload to riserless mobos.
The bad ones..... about 1.5 years old risers running 24x7x365.
Rule of thumb - 1 SATA cable powers 2 risers safely (3 is a stretch, 4 --- you asking for trouble)... each riser eats up to 60watts. No way 1 sata cable can support 60w x 4 = 240w.... it would melt!
The bad ones, I need to replace them with better risers or offload to riserless mobos.
The bad ones..... about 1.5 years old risers running 24x7x365.
Rule of thumb - 1 SATA cable powers 2 risers safely (3 is a stretch, 4 --- you asking for trouble)... each riser eats up to 60watts. No way 1 sata cable can support 60w x 4 = 240w.... it would melt!
Hello citronick.
What sort of problems are you having with risers?
100% of my cards are using them. All of them are gtx1060s. Operating for 2 months already with no issues from risers.
following issues:
#1) connected 4 risers to 1 sata cable resulting in the connector at the modular end of the PSU melting (just me being stupid: not reading enough)
#2) one of the gtx 1060 3gb cards stopped working, upon inspection, artifacts appeared when its stress tested. replaced by store warranty.
other than that no issues on risers
What sort of problems are you having with risers?
100% of my cards are using them. All of them are gtx1060s. Operating for 2 months already with no issues from risers.
following issues:
#1) connected 4 risers to 1 sata cable resulting in the connector at the modular end of the PSU melting (just me being stupid: not reading enough)
#2) one of the gtx 1060 3gb cards stopped working, upon inspection, artifacts appeared when its stress tested. replaced by store warranty.
other than that no issues on risers
Ever since nicehash jacked up the minimum difficulty for XMR to 80000 I find that my slower CPUs report 0 hash there most of the time.
Dumb question : is it possible to undervolt 1080tis ?
In my AB, voltage start at zero.
That's why I always use power limit. But I was wondering if this is ok ?
(with AMDs, I never used powerlimit, and always undervolted.)
In my AB, voltage start at zero.
That's why I always use power limit. But I was wondering if this is ok ?
(with AMDs, I never used powerlimit, and always undervolted.)
yet to see a way to do it. I use power limit.
oh here is the ryzen 1800x doing xmr
530 h earns $1.40 or so
right above it is 1 nvidia 1070
same build
Dumb question : is it possible to undervolt 1080tis ?
In my AB, voltage start at zero.
That's why I always use power limit. But I was wondering if this is ok ?
(with AMDs, I never used powerlimit, and always undervolted.)
In my AB, voltage start at zero.
That's why I always use power limit. But I was wondering if this is ok ?
(with AMDs, I never used powerlimit, and always undervolted.)
Hello citronick.
What sort of problems are you having with risers?
100% of my cards are using them. All of them are gtx1060s. Operating for 2 months already with no issues from risers.
following issues:
#1) connected 4 risers to 1 sata cable resulting in the connector at the modular end of the PSU melting (just me being stupid: not reading enough)
#2) one of the gtx 1060 3gb cards stopped working, upon inspection, artifacts appeared when its stress tested. replaced by store warranty.
other than that no issues on risers
Got a few boards to test.
I want to run Linux on this - anybody knows what mobo chipset is this?
Celeron powered with DDR3 memory should point to chipset before Z170 ?
Per QuintLeo's comment, it uses Intel SoC, so no chipset per se. I'm thinking a recent Linux distro would run just fine.
When do you plan to test the board?
I just got one of my China contacts last night to buy it for me.
Taobao is a Alibaba for domestic market kind of a thing, so plenty of Chinese text there unlike Aliexpress which is designed for International market.
Hope to get it in the next week or so via air - will revert soon.
Bought 3 Qty - 2 for me and 1 donating to Phil :-)
While the concept is remarkably clever, the spacing between the pcie slots is not big enough imo. The cards will be overheating if you stack six of them.
With good fans, airflow and the correct GPUs, that spacing challenge is easily solved.
At this point, I will do almost anything to get rid the of bloody risers
My group has more than 300 x GPUs (90% with risers) and the root of all problems start with those risers.
What sort of problems are you having with risers?
100% of my cards are using them. All of them are gtx1060s. Operating for 2 months already with no issues from risers.
following issues:
#1) connected 4 risers to 1 sata cable resulting in the connector at the modular end of the PSU melting (just me being stupid: not reading enough)
#2) one of the gtx 1060 3gb cards stopped working, upon inspection, artifacts appeared when its stress tested. replaced by store warranty.
other than that no issues on risers
Phil, have you seen this board?
Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.
Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369
Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url
Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url
List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.
However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC
Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.
Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.
Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369
Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url
Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url
List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.
However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC
Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.
Got a few boards to test.
I want to run Linux on this - anybody knows what mobo chipset is this?
Celeron powered with DDR3 memory should point to chipset before Z170 ?
Per QuintLeo's comment, it uses Intel SoC, so no chipset per se. I'm thinking a recent Linux distro would run just fine.
When do you plan to test the board?
I just got one of my China contacts last night to buy it for me.
Taobao is a Alibaba for domestic market kind of a thing, so plenty of Chinese text there unlike Aliexpress which is designed for International market.
Hope to get it in the next week or so via air - will revert soon.
Bought 3 Qty - 2 for me and 1 donating to Phil :-)
With good fans, airflow and the correct GPUs, that spacing challenge is easily solved.
At this point, I will do almost anything to get rid the of bloody risers
My group has more than 300 x GPUs (90% with risers) and the root of all problems start with those risers.
I like the ryZen 1800x build.
I am using 216 watts at kwatt meter.
I am doing 500 for xmr and with 1 Evga 1070 I am doing 430 for zec
This is about 1.40 usd for the CPU
This is about 2.10 Usd for the gpu
About 5 kwatt s a day at my summer price of 20 cents is 1 usd
So I am netting 2.50 usd
I am using 216 watts at kwatt meter.
I am doing 500 for xmr and with 1 Evga 1070 I am doing 430 for zec
This is about 1.40 usd for the CPU
This is about 2.10 Usd for the gpu
About 5 kwatt s a day at my summer price of 20 cents is 1 usd
So I am netting 2.50 usd
otherwise at LTC Solo pools, each solo block is worth 25 x 60 = 1500$ .... go see tbdice.org and see how this whale miner collects thousands of dollars per day with a 700GHs mining power -- as I type I see this miner has struck 19 blocks (31st Aug)... 19 blocks x 25 x 60$ = USD$28,500 !
I'd love to know what his original investment was...my wild guess is that...... this is Bitmain's Mongolia farm... LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGeim9E24Wk
otherwise at LTC Solo pools, each solo block is worth 25 x 60 = 1500$ .... go see tbdice.org and see how this whale miner collects thousands of dollars per day with a 700GHs mining power -- as I type I see this miner has struck 19 blocks (31st Aug)... 19 blocks x 25 x 60$ = USD$28,500 !
I'd love to know what his original investment was... Quote from Antminer L3+ topic
If this guy is right, is useless to buy L3+ right now because when I will receive it everything will be changed a lot. What's your opinion?
Waiting for new releases from Bitmain? Because 1870 was a lot this night for a L3+ which I will be getting after two months.
Quote
So far we have 15k units in september 1-15 7.5TH/s
10k units in September 15-30 5TH
October 1-15 another 10k units 5TH
October 15-23 another 10k units 5TH
October 23-30th another 10k units 5TH
Current Network rate is 20TH
by end of october will be 47.5TH
so profitability will go to $13 per day still ROI of 100 days not bad (as long as LTC stays at $66)
10k units in September 15-30 5TH
October 1-15 another 10k units 5TH
October 15-23 another 10k units 5TH
October 23-30th another 10k units 5TH
Current Network rate is 20TH
by end of october will be 47.5TH
so profitability will go to $13 per day still ROI of 100 days not bad (as long as LTC stays at $66)
If this guy is right, is useless to buy L3+ right now because when I will receive it everything will be changed a lot. What's your opinion?
Waiting for new releases from Bitmain? Because 1870 was a lot this night for a L3+ which I will be getting after two months.
I have put all my group's Scrypt hash to Nicehash for a simple reason -- high pay rate for now, before it goes back to LTC pools - of course I still get screwed because NH charges up to 4% if I use my own BTC address (ie not their wallet).... but I am ok with that in exchange for BTC upfront.
Tons of these NH Scrypt hash are pointed to BitConnect pools..... 10GHs of Scrypt hash can mine 7-10 coins per day. If you now cash that out to BTC at Nova or Livecoin exchanges... thats 110-130$ per coin x 7 = lets say 900$ div by 20 (ie per L3+) = 45$ ... so thats 13$ vs $45
otherwise at LTC Solo pools, each solo block is worth 25 x 60 = 1500$ .... go see tbdice.org and see how this whale miner collects thousands of dollars per day with a 700GHs mining power -- as I type I see this miner has struck 19 blocks (31st Aug)... 19 blocks x 25 x 60$ = USD$28,500 !
Quote from Antminer L3+ topic
If this guy is right, is useless to buy L3+ right now because when I will receive it everything will be changed a lot. What's your opinion?
Waiting for new releases from Bitmain? Because 1870 was a lot this night for a L3+ which I will be getting after two months.
Quote
So far we have 15k units in september 1-15 7.5TH/s
10k units in September 15-30 5TH
October 1-15 another 10k units 5TH
October 15-23 another 10k units 5TH
October 23-30th another 10k units 5TH
Current Network rate is 20TH
by end of october will be 47.5TH
so profitability will go to $13 per day still ROI of 100 days not bad (as long as LTC stays at $66)
10k units in September 15-30 5TH
October 1-15 another 10k units 5TH
October 15-23 another 10k units 5TH
October 23-30th another 10k units 5TH
Current Network rate is 20TH
by end of october will be 47.5TH
so profitability will go to $13 per day still ROI of 100 days not bad (as long as LTC stays at $66)
If this guy is right, is useless to buy L3+ right now because when I will receive it everything will be changed a lot. What's your opinion?
Waiting for new releases from Bitmain? Because 1870 was a lot this night for a L3+ which I will be getting after two months.
With good fans, airflow and the correct GPUs, that spacing challenge is easily solved.
At this point, I will do almost anything to get rid the of bloody risers
My group has more than 300 x GPUs (90% with risers) and the root of all problems start with those risers.
Phil, have you seen this board?
Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.
Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369
Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url
Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url
List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.
However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC
Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.
Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.
Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369
Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url
Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url
List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.
However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC
Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.
Got a few boards to test.
I want to run Linux on this - anybody knows what mobo chipset is this?
Celeron powered with DDR3 memory should point to chipset before Z170 ?
Per QuintLeo's comment, it uses Intel SoC, so no chipset per se. I'm thinking a recent Linux distro would run just fine.
When do you plan to test the board?
I just got one of my China contacts last night to buy it for me.
Taobao is a Alibaba for domestic market kind of a thing, so plenty of Chinese text there unlike Aliexpress which is designed for International market.
Hope to get it in the next week or so via air - will revert soon.
Bought 3 Qty - 2 for me and 1 donating to Phil :-)
With good fans, airflow and the correct GPUs, that spacing challenge is easily solved.
At this point, I will do almost anything to get rid the of bloody risers
My group has more than 300 x GPUs (90% with risers) and the root of all problems start with those risers.
thanks for donation on the board.
I am now doing my ryzen 1800x build
I need to do some tweaks
https://www.usxmrpool.com/#easy_mining_guide
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