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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Phil, have you seen this board?

Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.

Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369

Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url


List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.

However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC

Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.

Got a few boards to test.

I want to run Linux on this - anybody knows what mobo chipset is this?

Celeron powered with DDR3 memory should point to chipset before Z170 ?


it is a g1820 cpu    this would be a good  board  for a 3 card 1080 ti

uses a 8gb sodimm 1600 ram stick    about 90 + 40 = 130 
sr. member
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citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners? Smiley Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us Smiley
Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.


The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.

thanks for the additional info citronik, really appreciate it... especially on the new batch of L3+'s coming available tonight!  I just registered on the bitmain site so I can log on later and try to get at least 1 of them.  btw, do you know what the price is going to be?  The site doesn't say and their FB says prices only available at time of release of batch sales. Nov batch D3s were 1400 USD, so would assume lower price than that but if you have any insight, would like to prepare.

Also thanks for mentioning Eastshore. I noticed that they have Nov batch D3's for 2100 USD. Granted, thats 700 more than original price from bitmain, but 2-3x less than I have seen on ebay.  Have you or anyone else ever ordered from Eastshore?  Would be curious as to what people's experiences with them have been.

legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
Phil, have you seen this board?

Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.

Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369

Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url


List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.

However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC

Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.

Got a few boards to test.

I want to run Linux on this - anybody knows what mobo chipset is this?

Celeron powered with DDR3 memory should point to chipset before Z170 ?
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners? Smiley Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us Smiley
Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.


The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.
There the price is 1370usd.
And for Europe is 2500euro. That much difference between US and Europe? Wtf?
Plus the PSU it goes to about 2750euro which is almost double the price US people get.
Maybe we have someone here from Europe which knows some better prices...

I think price stated in Bitmain is for everyone in the world - I dont think its different price for different region.

The landing cost will be different because of country shipping, customs tax etc.

You can email [email protected], he is the coordinator for Bitmain sales for Russia and EU.
legendary
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Looks like my rx cards that mem and clock tweaks don't like xmr. Anyone know if that sounds about right ?

1200/1900 seems to be the sweet spot. at least on my 6x 470 rigs, I can get close to 700/gpu while pulling 700-750 watts. You can also get a bit more hash by switching from -a2 to -a4 and no notable watt diff, at least for 470s.

The crappy thing about 1080 TIs is that they are not much better on XMR than a 470 is but they cost 3-4x as much. Yeah, I know they are beasts at ZEC and a couple other alts, but i'm not sure how much I want to invest in GPUs that can really only mine 1 algo effectively.

 They can mine a FEW algos effectively, but they are less flexable than the 1070 or the RX series cards and outside of ZEC the coins on the altos the 1080ti are GOOD at tend to be small and can't asorb a lot of hashrate without profitablity crashing.


legendary
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So are there any coins still worth mining with GPUs outside of ETC or ETH?


 ZEC among many others - ETC is small potatoes in comparison.

 On the other hand, a well-tuned rig of RX 470/480/570/580 with bios-modded cards can still pull in about $2/day per card right now on ETH, RX card pricing has been dropping quite a bit over the last month, and availabiity is getting somewhat better.



legendary
Activity: 4256
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'The right to privacy matters'
citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners? Smiley Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us Smiley
Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.


The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.
There the price is 1370usd.
And for Europe is 2500euro. That much difference between US and Europe? Wtf?
Plus the PSU it goes to about 2750euro which is almost double the price US people get.
Maybe we have someone here from Europe which knows some better prices...

you realize  those prices have zero meaning.  it is not for sale by bitmain at this moment.
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So are there any coins still worth mining with GPUs outside of ETC or ETH?

I've looked at some sites that state profitability, but I'd rather get in on new coins that are ASIC resistant.

Thanks!
member
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citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners? Smiley Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us Smiley
Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.


The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.
There the price is 1370usd.
And for Europe is 2500euro. That much difference between US and Europe? Wtf?
Plus the PSU it goes to about 2750euro which is almost double the price US people get.
Maybe we have someone here from Europe which knows some better prices...
legendary
Activity: 2366
Merit: 1408
Breaking News:

According to BitcoinMeister the next friendly BTC fork is on the way called Bitcoin Gold.
Video info here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAukxlpwyHg

GPU mined bitcoin fork with POW change to GPU originating from China.
Competitor to BCH and maybe Etherium later.

Sold my BCH for a nice 17.2% dividend that was an easy call. This one might be a harder call. Could pull some interest away from ethereum once ethereum goes proof of stake.

Team behind the bitcoin gold project will implement replay protection and are pro core according to the video which is interesting.

Is it true?
I can't find more infos

maybe, just maybe this coin can have all support by the miners (if a big coin have attention of the miners, a lot o ETH miners can change)
legendary
Activity: 1834
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---- winter*juvia -----
citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners? Smiley Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us Smiley
Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.


The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.
member
Activity: 131
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citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners? Smiley Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us Smiley
Thanks
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1080
---- winter*juvia -----
Well Citronick,

I cashed out 57k SIGT today @ 1200 when it spiked up around 6am to try and get some of my coins out of my wallet with the next halving approaching, then i cashed it out on NEO and bought 102 NEO coins and place them in wallet to collect GAS on the huge dump today.

Unfortunately the Gunbot is actually -0.3% for the 1st week playing with it. I have 4 positions that the bot bought in and shortly after a huge dump occured, ex: LGD, CANN, XMR, BCH

It was up 91.4% for the week on trade profits, but those 4 bags are holding it negative at the moment, hopely some of those recover in the future so i can gain back some of those profits it had made. I made a killing off LTC this week on trades, over 300+ trades on it alone.


@ gabryrox.
the L3+ is more profitable currently vs any D3 or X11 miner 10GHs and above.
At normal rental payrate at NH, the ratio around 2-1. During NH rental frenzy, L3+ wins big 3-1.
When the D3 15GHs and Innosilicon 30GHs X11 miners comes out, the saturation of this algo will be worst.
Anyways, we don't know what tomorrow brings .... DASH and other X11 coins may hit new high by end of year.... esp BTC being bullish dragging alts higher. Total marketcap for the entire cryptocurrency now has past 160B -- one would wonder where did all money come from....


Hi Citronik... always appreciate your insights! But it seems I must be missing something regarding the D3 vs L3+.  D3 gets 15 Ghz (which is 15,000 Mhz if Im not mistaken) using 1350 watts for a daily profit of right about $200 according to what-to-mine.  But doesn't the L3+ only get 504 Mhz at 800W?  If so, that only churns out about $30/day profit.  Even factoring in a huge if you triple that with nicehash rental contracts, it still not even close to the Dash profit with the D3, right?  So, what am I missing here?

Here is a snapshot of the farm's Scrypt and X11 ASICs....

L3x20+A4x6=Scrypt(11GHs) and Baikals (15GHs)+iBelink (22GHs)=X11(36GHs) running at NH currently...

Scrypt profitability is 2x compared to X11 (eventhough bigger hash)

During the day (US time), the Scrypt rentals will increase gradually.

I have seen 5x over X11 before a few days ago. That was maybe someone who wanted buy Scrypt hash badly at all costs.

Sorry that I cannot reveal too much data here because my group's mining farms currently pointed to NH includes Cryptonight and Equihash GPU miners too. The BTC farms are separately hosted and mines exclusively at Kano (A7s) and Antpool (S9s).



algo/accepted speed/rejected speed/profitability/unpaid balance

Summary: I think L3+s are better bet vs D3 15GHs or the Inno 30GHs. But dont get me wrong.... since BTC is bullish, the major alts like DASH and LTC will eventually move higher. In NH, I have no idea what my farms hashes are being used for. I do know that a pump group is using tons of Scrypt hash to mine BitConnect coins currently at 130$.... thats twice more than LTC. Anyways, as long as I am paid with premium Bitcoins I dont mind.

Why NH? Like Phil, I am also no longer worry about perfection...
sr. member
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Well Citronick,

I cashed out 57k SIGT today @ 1200 when it spiked up around 6am to try and get some of my coins out of my wallet with the next halving approaching, then i cashed it out on NEO and bought 102 NEO coins and place them in wallet to collect GAS on the huge dump today.

Unfortunately the Gunbot is actually -0.3% for the 1st week playing with it. I have 4 positions that the bot bought in and shortly after a huge dump occured, ex: LGD, CANN, XMR, BCH

It was up 91.4% for the week on trade profits, but those 4 bags are holding it negative at the moment, hopely some of those recover in the future so i can gain back some of those profits it had made. I made a killing off LTC this week on trades, over 300+ trades on it alone.


@ gabryrox.
the L3+ is more profitable currently vs any D3 or X11 miner 10GHs and above.
At normal rental payrate at NH, the ratio around 2-1. During NH rental frenzy, L3+ wins big 3-1.
When the D3 15GHs and Innosilicon 30GHs X11 miners comes out, the saturation of this algo will be worst.
Anyways, we don't know what tomorrow brings .... DASH and other X11 coins may hit new high by end of year.... esp BTC being bullish dragging alts higher. Total marketcap for the entire cryptocurrency now has past 160B -- one would wonder where did all money come from....


Hi Citronik... always appreciate your insights! But it seems I must be missing something regarding the D3 vs L3+.  D3 gets 15 Ghz (which is 15,000 Mhz if Im not mistaken) using 1350 watts for a daily profit of right about $200 according to what-to-mine.  But doesn't the L3+ only get 504 Mhz at 800W?  If so, that only churns out about $30/day profit.  Even factoring in a huge if you triple that with nicehash rental contracts, it still not even close to the Dash profit with the D3, right?  So, what am I missing here?
legendary
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---- winter*juvia -----
Well Citronick,

I cashed out 57k SIGT today @ 1200 when it spiked up around 6am to try and get some of my coins out of my wallet with the next halving approaching, then i cashed it out on NEO and bought 102 NEO coins and place them in wallet to collect GAS on the huge dump today.

Unfortunately the Gunbot is actually -0.3% for the 1st week playing with it. I have 4 positions that the bot bought in and shortly after a huge dump occured, ex: LGD, CANN, XMR, BCH

It was up 91.4% for the week on trade profits, but those 4 bags are holding it negative at the moment, hopely some of those recover in the future so i can gain back some of those profits it had made. I made a killing off LTC this week on trades, over 300+ trades on it alone.


LTC is hot, my group's 20 x L3+ are smokin -- vs mining LTC direct, currently almost 60% higher on mining BitConnect coins, up to 40% higher on average selling scrypt algo at Nicehash (esp when big renting contracts starts) and with LTC recently bumping up past 60 bucks - the L3+ are crazy profitable.

@ gabryrox.
the L3+ is more profitable currently vs any D3 or X11 miner 10GHs and above.
At normal rental payrate at NH, the ratio around 2-1. During NH rental frenzy, L3+ wins big 3-1.
When the D3 15GHs and Innosilicon 30GHs X11 miners comes out, the saturation of this algo will be worst.
Anyways, we don't know what tomorrow brings .... DASH and other X11 coins may hit new high by end of year.... esp BTC being bullish dragging alts higher. Total marketcap for the entire cryptocurrency now has past 160B -- one would wonder where did all money come from....

@ zerOk.
I was a big AMD fan since started GPU mining 2 years ago.... but after the GPU shortage mess earlier this year and the disappointing Vega RX - I realized how versatile NIVIDIA GPU in ETH and ZEC, ... and also several ccminer coins. The resale value of NVIDIA cards are also much better than AMD in gaming world. I think NVIDIA is also much more open in appreciating the mining community and providing more options in their GPUs for mining, ie. P106 and P104. As of today, I am convinced that 1080ti is probably the undisputed king of GPUs at the moment.

If I was pushing for a GPU mining capable coin that could match massive miner adoption like SHA256 Asics miners.... I would target GPUs that has the highest cores and manageable power. I think NVIDIA has 1080ti at the high end and 1070 as the sweet-spot (just like the RX470s). Until AMD can make good to the mining community, IMHO the green team will close the gap fast because their timing is somewhat better than AMD currently.
sr. member
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That's a nifty looking motherboard.
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Phil, have you seen this board?



Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.

Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369

Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url


List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.

However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC

Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.
full member
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Well Citronick,

I cashed out 57k SIGT today @ 1200 when it spiked up around 6am to try and get some of my coins out of my wallet with the next halving approaching, then i cashed it out on NEO and bought 102 NEO coins and place them in wallet to collect GAS on the huge dump today.

Unfortunately the Gunbot is actually -0.3% for the 1st week playing with it. I have 4 positions that the bot bought in and shortly after a huge dump occured, ex: LGD, CANN, XMR, BCH

It was up 91.4% for the week on trade profits, but those 4 bags are holding it negative at the moment, hopely some of those recover in the future so i can gain back some of those profits it had made. I made a killing off LTC this week on trades, over 300+ trades on it alone.
sr. member
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hey philipma1957 - may I check with you, if you had a choice between building a rig and buying with the same funds a portfolio of top 10 currencies. What would you choose?
thanks

If I could have  10000 usd  of gear or coins

in my case  I would want  some bitmain L3+ ltc miners and some avalon 741 btc  miners.

not that I don't like  gpu's  but  I am gpu heavy  and need some asics like the avalon 741  and the bitmain L3+

maybe 7 avalon 741's  and 2 L3+

My ratios are

gpu's  15x 1080 ti's ------------------  I include psu's mobos etc  10k
s-9's    3x -----------------------------------------------------------   3k
r-4       1x -----------------------------------------------------------   1k
721      3x -----------------------------------------------------------   2k
741      1x -----------------------------------------------------------   1k
cash     6k ----------------------------------------------------------    6k
coins     btc, bcc ----------------------------------------------------    7k
debt        ------------------------------------------------------------    0

                so about 30k  no debt  all profit

 I feel I am heavy in gpus and lite on asic gear

I only have 1 measly Baikal mini and 4 x 6-470 rigs, so well under-repped on the ASIC/FPGA front.  Been really happy with that mini... it's  already paid for itslelf 5-6x over and even now is still pulling in ~$2/day.  I really missed the boat on both the L3+ and D3 and could just kick my own arse about that. But, was just too busy at work over last few months to spend the time tracking Bitmain releases.  Still, even with the 3-x4 hyped up resale prices for say the D3, it's damn tempting to pull the trigger given that it can currently pull in close to $200/day.  If I could get a hold of a Sept batch D3 for around $4-5k, I'd probably do it but sadly, even the Nov batch are going for more than that now and by then, I imagine the $/day will be way down under $100, so probably not worth it.
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Looks like my rx cards that mem and clock tweaks don't like xmr. Anyone know if that sounds about right ?

1200/1900 seems to be the sweet spot. at least on my 6x 470 rigs, I can get close to 700/gpu while pulling 700-750 watts. You can also get a bit more hash by switching from -a2 to -a4 and no notable watt diff, at least for 470s.

The crappy thing about 1080 TIs is that they are not much better on XMR than a 470 is but they cost 3-4x as much. Yeah, I know they are beasts at ZEC and a couple other alts, but i'm not sure how much I want to invest in GPUs that can really only mine 1 algo effectively.
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