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Phil, have you seen this board?

Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.

Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369

Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.

However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC

Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.

Got a few boards to test.

I want to run Linux on this - anybody knows what mobo chipset is this?

Celeron powered with DDR3 memory should point to chipset before Z170 ?

Per QuintLeo's comment, it uses Intel SoC, so no chipset per se. I'm thinking a recent Linux distro would run just fine.

When do you plan to test the board?

I just got one of my China contacts last night to buy it for me.

Taobao is a Alibaba for domestic market kind of a thing, so plenty of Chinese text there unlike Aliexpress which is designed for International market.

Hope to get it in the next week or so via air - will revert soon.

Bought 3 Qty - 2 for me and 1 donating to Phil :-)

While the concept is remarkably clever, the spacing between the pcie slots is not big enough imo. The cards will be overheating if you stack six of them.

With good fans, airflow and the correct GPUs, that spacing challenge is easily solved.

At this point, I will do almost anything to get rid the of bloody risers Grin

My group has more than 300 x GPUs (90% with risers) and the root of all problems start with those risers.

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Quote from: citronick on August 31, 2017, 04:18:17 AM

Quote from: TheRider on August 31, 2017, 02:40:57 AM

Quote from: citronick on August 30, 2017, 06:17:18 PM

Quote from: TheRider on August 30, 2017, 01:28:17 AM

Phil, have you seen this board?

Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.

Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369

Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.

However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC

Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.

Got a few boards to test.

I want to run Linux on this - anybody knows what mobo chipset is this?

Celeron powered with DDR3 memory should point to chipset before Z170 ?

Per QuintLeo's comment, it uses Intel SoC, so no chipset per se. I'm thinking a recent Linux distro would run just fine.

When do you plan to test the board?

I just got one of my China contacts last night to buy it for me.

Taobao is a Alibaba for domestic market kind of a thing, so plenty of Chinese text there unlike Aliexpress which is designed for International market.

Hope to get it in the next week or so via air - will revert soon.

Bought 3 Qty - 2 for me and 1 donating to Phil :-)

While the concept is remarkably clever, the spacing between the pcie slots is not big enough imo. The cards will be overheating if you stack six of them.

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Quote from: citronick on August 31, 2017, 04:36:32 AM

Quote from: Marvell1 on August 31, 2017, 02:31:52 AM

Quote from: citronick on August 31, 2017, 02:25:20 AM

Quote from: GabryRox on August 30, 2017, 11:07:53 PM

Well, on 2nd thought, since Bitmain is asking $1,870 for this Nov batch L3+, I will be ordering zero instead of the 2-3 I was considering at a reasonable 1300-1400 price point. I might kick myself later but that's just a bit too risky for me. Oh well, back to the drawing board lol.

Sold out in 13 minutes I heard.

I think ROI is still good.

Just by putting them on Nicehash..... 10 x L3+ averages about 800 USD$ per day*...... ROI in 24 days.

* Excludes power bill.

What about the A4 , those are still available, only prob is u have to buy 5

I think there are still A4 for sale or people happy to sell them because it wasn't up to par performance wise.
It wasn't as successful as the A2, and required plenty of firmware upgrades and jiggy works - it was a mess.
My group has 6 of them and its was quite a nightmare because the first few firmware was very unstable.

There is a Innosilicon A5 DASHMASTER shipping mid-Sept, but its an X11 miner.
It's a whopping 30GHs miner selling for $9999
Don't know if they have revised this price yet, because Bitmain is selling D3 X11 miner too for much lesser but at 15GHs miner but ships November.

I hear about the issues with A4's I had assumed they were resloved looks like inno reduced the MOQ quantity to 3 PCs
I might order 3 for october delivery next week to play with, I cant ever get in on the L3+ sweepstakes , sales go too fast
But i feel like I need to be in the scrypt game.

X11 feels too risky with these monster D3 and this A5 thing not counting Ibelink etc

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Quote from: Marvell1 on August 31, 2017, 02:31:52 AM

Quote from: citronick on August 31, 2017, 02:25:20 AM

Quote from: GabryRox on August 30, 2017, 11:07:53 PM

Well, on 2nd thought, since Bitmain is asking $1,870 for this Nov batch L3+, I will be ordering zero instead of the 2-3 I was considering at a reasonable 1300-1400 price point. I might kick myself later but that's just a bit too risky for me. Oh well, back to the drawing board lol.

Sold out in 13 minutes I heard.

I think ROI is still good.

Just by putting them on Nicehash..... 10 x L3+ averages about 800 USD$ per day*...... ROI in 24 days.

* Excludes power bill.

What about the A4 , those are still available, only prob is u have to buy 5

I think there are still A4 for sale or people happy to sell them because it wasn't up to par performance wise.
It wasn't as successful as the A2, and required plenty of firmware upgrades and jiggy works - it was a mess.
My group has 6 of them and its was quite a nightmare because the first few firmware was very unstable.

There is a Innosilicon A5 DASHMASTER shipping mid-Sept, but its an X11 miner.
It's a whopping 30GHs miner selling for $9999
Don't know if they have revised this price yet, because Bitmain is selling D3 X11 miner too for much lesser but at 15GHs miner but ships November.

citronick

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Quote from: TheRider on August 31, 2017, 02:40:57 AM

Quote from: citronick on August 30, 2017, 06:17:18 PM

Quote from: TheRider on August 30, 2017, 01:28:17 AM

Phil, have you seen this board?

Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.

Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369

Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.

However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC

Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.

Got a few boards to test.

I want to run Linux on this - anybody knows what mobo chipset is this?

Celeron powered with DDR3 memory should point to chipset before Z170 ?

Per QuintLeo's comment, it uses Intel SoC, so no chipset per se. I'm thinking a recent Linux distro would run just fine.

When do you plan to test the board?

I just got one of my China contacts last night to buy it for me.

Taobao is a Alibaba for domestic market kind of a thing, so plenty of Chinese text there unlike Aliexpress which is designed for International market.

Hope to get it in the next week or so via air - will revert soon.

Bought 3 Qty - 2 for me and 1 donating to Phil :-)

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Quote from: citronick on August 30, 2017, 06:17:18 PM

Quote from: TheRider on August 30, 2017, 01:28:17 AM

Phil, have you seen this board?

Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.

Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369

Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.

However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC

Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.

Got a few boards to test.

I want to run Linux on this - anybody knows what mobo chipset is this?

Celeron powered with DDR3 memory should point to chipset before Z170 ?

Per QuintLeo's comment, it uses Intel SoC, so no chipset per se. I'm thinking a recent Linux distro would run just fine.

When do you plan to test the board?

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Quote from: citronick on August 31, 2017, 02:25:20 AM

Quote from: GabryRox on August 30, 2017, 11:07:53 PM

Well, on 2nd thought, since Bitmain is asking $1,870 for this Nov batch L3+, I will be ordering zero instead of the 2-3 I was considering at a reasonable 1300-1400 price point. I might kick myself later but that's just a bit too risky for me. Oh well, back to the drawing board lol.

Sold out in 13 minutes I heard.

I think ROI is still good.

Just by putting them on Nicehash..... 10 x L3+ averages about 800 USD$ per day*...... ROI in 24 days.

* Excludes power bill.

What about the A4 , those are still available, only prob is u have to buy 5

citronick

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Quote from: GabryRox on August 30, 2017, 11:07:53 PM

Well, on 2nd thought, since Bitmain is asking $1,870 for this Nov batch L3+, I will be ordering zero instead of the 2-3 I was considering at a reasonable 1300-1400 price point. I might kick myself later but that's just a bit too risky for me. Oh well, back to the drawing board lol.

Sold out in 13 minutes I heard.

I think ROI is still good.

Just by putting them on Nicehash..... 10 x L3+ averages about 800 USD$ per day*...... ROI in 24 days.

* Excludes power bill.

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Don't matter what your normal ping is when they flat out don't have the bandwidth to handle the load when they put out a new batch.

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Quote from: GabryRox on August 30, 2017, 11:07:53 PM

Well, on 2nd thought, since Bitmain is asking $1,870 for this Nov batch L3+, I will be ordering zero instead of the 2-3 I was considering at a reasonable 1300-1400 price point. I might kick myself later but that's just a bit too risky for me. Oh well, back to the drawing board lol.

Ditto. Can't even get to the damn page, and I'm only 56ms RTT away...

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Well, on 2nd thought, since Bitmain is asking $1,870 for this Nov batch L3+, I will be ordering zero instead of the 2-3 I was considering at a reasonable 1300-1400 price point. I might kick myself later but that's just a bit too risky for me. Oh well, back to the drawing board lol.

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Quote from: TheRider on August 30, 2017, 01:28:17 AM

Phil, have you seen this board?

Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

Intel SoC design, but the spec on it claims it only has 4 PCI-E 2.0 lanes (and it doesn't USE a "chipset" so it's not able to gain any from that).

I'd guess they're using a multiplexer chip to get the extra lanes for the M.2 socket some of the PCI-E sockets.

Spacing is a bit tight, but doesn't look much if any worse than most "2-5-7" motherboards between the first 2 cards.

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Quote from: 64dimensions on August 30, 2017, 09:38:32 PM

Quote from: citronick on August 30, 2017, 08:56:38 AM

Quote from: sNaKeyz0r91 on August 30, 2017, 07:34:01 AM

citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners?

Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us

Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.

The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.

I have one (late May batch?)

I'm one the fence about getting a 2nd.

Here is an interesting forecast: https://steemit.com/litecoin/@xbm/litecoin-difficulty-forecast It's already low compared to where LTC is now.

Buying more 1080 ti's is the opposing argument. So if you use a 1080 ti justification, an L3+ costs around 2 1080 ti's . So lets say $7/day. This doesn't include $2/day for power. I don't have a good feel for what the adoption rate for LTC will be. The (major) plus side of the 1080 is it's resale value. Especially since deliveries look slow for the follow on GPU's.

So it doesn't look like an L3+ makes sense.

Food for thought for sure, but even if an L3+ rakes in 8 LTC in Nov, that's still $500/mo at current prices, and thats just straight mining, which as I understand, is severely less profitable than selling that hash through nicehash. We will see in about an hour what the price for Nov batch is but it seems it should be in the 1300 range. At that price, you're looking at likely ROI in 2-3 months, again, not using nicehash.

True about the better resale value of Ti's but I"m not hugely impressed that they are only really effective on a couple of algos. Certainly, if ZEC and a few others that it excels at keep hot, it might be a good way to diversify.

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Quote from: citronick on August 30, 2017, 08:56:38 AM

Quote from: sNaKeyz0r91 on August 30, 2017, 07:34:01 AM

citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners?

Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us

Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.

The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.

I have one (late May batch?)

I'm one the fence about getting a 2nd.

Here is an interesting forecast: https://steemit.com/litecoin/@xbm/litecoin-difficulty-forecast It's already low compared to where LTC is now.

Buying more 1080 ti's is the opposing argument. So if you use a 1080 ti justification, an L3+ costs around 2 1080 ti's . So lets say $7/day. This doesn't include $2/day for power. I don't have a good feel for what the adoption rate for LTC will be. The (major) plus side of the 1080 is it's resale value. Especially since deliveries look slow for the follow on GPU's.

So it doesn't look like an L3+ makes sense.

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Quote from: 64dimensions on August 30, 2017, 08:42:11 PM

Any suggestions for Monero pools?

TIA

I've been with Dwarfpool for close to a year off and on and never had any issues with them. Quick, easy auto-payout and decent tracking metrics.

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Any suggestions for Monero pools?

TIA

citronick

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Quote from: GabryRox on August 30, 2017, 06:31:26 PM

Quote from: citronick on August 30, 2017, 08:56:38 AM

Quote from: sNaKeyz0r91 on August 30, 2017, 07:34:01 AM

citronick, where to buy L3+ in Europe? Any advise for fellow europeans about litecoin miners?

Also, does it come with all it needs like cords, psu or something like that? Or I have to order separately?
Right now, as posted previous pages ago, I was only into GPU mining, but sincer you are talking about quick ROI on litecoin mining, is a good idea to invest in that for the moment and maybe later we'll see what nvidia has planned for us

Thanks

You can get L3+ direct from Bitmain shop - https://shop.bitmain.com/antminer_l3_litecoin_asic_scrypt_miner.htm

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.

The last sale lasted less than an hour - so be ready and create your userid etc before buying online.

Or you can get from resellers like Eastshore company in China.

They are also sellers in ebay but to be honest do not use them if you dont know them personally.

They can either cheat you or sell it to you for 3 times or even 4 times Bitmain retail price.

The L3+ are quite a performer and enjoying good profitability currently so the perceived value of this miner is more than an ounce of gold literally. It will be difficult to find any sellers in open market.

thanks for the additional info citronik, really appreciate it... especially on the new batch of L3+'s coming available tonight! I just registered on the bitmain site so I can log on later and try to get at least 1 of them. btw, do you know what the price is going to be? The site doesn't say and their FB says prices only available at time of release of batch sales. Nov batch D3s were 1400 USD, so would assume lower price than that but if you have any insight, would like to prepare.

Also thanks for mentioning Eastshore. I noticed that they have Nov batch D3's for 2100 USD. Granted, thats 700 more than original price from bitmain, but 2-3x less than I have seen on ebay. Have you or anyone else ever ordered from Eastshore? Would be curious as to what people's experiences with them have been.

Eastshore is legit.

I bought my first Gridseeds from them 2 years ago Grin

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Quote from: citronick on August 30, 2017, 08:56:38 AM

Bitmain is releasing a new batch of L3+'s (November shipping) on Aug 31 @ 11:00 (AM, Beijing time - UTC+8).
That means today for US people, Aug 30, at 23:00 (11PM) Eastern Daylight Time for the USA.

That's in 2hr 45mins right?
I wonder if they ship to Australia and at what price.

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I just wanted to say thanks to Phil for leaning me towards the 1080ti / equihash pathway back in late June.

For my first rig, I bought 3 * 1080ti and have basically mined ZEN for two months. Very close to having them all paid off.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on August 30, 2017, 07:30:26 PM

Quote from: citronick on August 30, 2017, 06:17:18 PM

Quote from: TheRider on August 30, 2017, 01:28:17 AM

Phil, have you seen this board?

Might be worth ordering one for testing. Riser-less 6GPU rigs would save you lots of components from your 3GPU rigs.

Manufacturer page
http://www.onda.cn/MotherBoard_Designs.aspx?id=369

Translated by Google
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Designs.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

Specs:
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onda.cn%2FMotherBoard_Specifications.aspx%3Fid%3D369&edit-text=&act=url

List price is CNY 1100, but the manufacturer's web shop is out of stock.

However, I found it on this website
https://s.taobao.com/search?q=D1800-BTC

Cheapest seem to be around CNY 590, which is the equivalent of $90.

Got a few boards to test.

I want to run Linux on this - anybody knows what mobo chipset is this?

Celeron powered with DDR3 memory should point to chipset before Z170 ?

it is a g1820 cpu this would be a good board for a 3 card 1080 ti

uses a 8gb sodimm 1600 ram stick about 90 + 40 = 130

Only 3 cards? Do you think spacing looks too tight for 6 cards?

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