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legendary
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I have just opened an account with www.cryptopia.co.nz, a cryto-currency exchange based in New Zealand.

I have emptied my Coinbase and Poloniex accounts (bye-bye), and moved them to this non-US crypto-exchange.

I however still need the Bitrex account which for limited use.

This is not an endorsement of Cryptopia but its one of the ones I like most after an extensive research of an alternative crypto exchange far far away from hairy arms of you know who...  Grin
hero member
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Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.


To be clear it is not an issue to me that they are blocking deposits of bcc.

It is an issue that they are allowing trading of bcc while blocking deposits of bcc.

I am not the government but it looks like they set the company up to get sued by doing this.

1) They knew they would have bcc on hand.

2) They knew they would block deposits .

3) They knew they would allow trading of that bcc for other coins .

This is a perfect setup for insider trading.  1,2,3 are all facts.

They are a USA company.  While not a stock it has been ruled a commodity type asset by the IRS .

Lawsuits are different then criminal statues.  A lawsuit can be won by proponderance of the evidence
While a criminal case needs to be a reasonable doubt .

So A lawsuit 51 percent chance is good
While a criminal  let's say 95 percent is reason able.

If you look at 1 plus 2 plus 3. You only need to show workers, owners ,friends or relatives of bittrex had coins there to win a lawsuit.


This is a big time fuckup.  
Also btc-e was crushed by the Feds a day or two before this happened.

Check the trading of bcc on bittrex well over. 180 not  60 million usd. Not good.
Poor decision any one with bcc not deposit able  can take a shot at any USA exchange that did this.

I see a huge fucking mess oh well.

At least I cashed a lot of btc in July


Good point ...
After leaving Poloniex, people should not count too much on Bittrex to ensure safety .. we don't know what's comming soon ...

But where to leave the small altcoins ?? even Jaxx or the very useful ledger nano S doesn't handle more than a few cryptos. I don't where to let them sleep safe.
hero member
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sorry for off topic, anyone know if Simplemining will add soon the feature to manage different miners/bats from the same dashboard ?
It seems the new dashboard still don't allow that.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Philip

Did the Bitttrex block BTC withdrawals ?


Nope I withdrew some btc today, thier not blocking anything right now , btc or bcc, but if you try and withdraw or deposit bcc it would take days.

I dont see how you can logically compare btc-e with bittrexx lol ? Btce e had a cofounder who was part of the team that hacked mtgox and stole 700k btc , basically billions then was able to launder it through cash via a btce directley into thier hotwallet which means the owners of Btce were basically his partners and thus complicit

also btce had no id verification or anything and was commonly used to luander btc from the silk road and dark net into roubles or usd.

I can list ten more actions they did that cuased then to be shit down , plus Its a russia vs usa thing going on as well so they were caught up in that as well.

what bittrexx did sucks but you never would have got your bcc there in time to take advantage of the pump in any case , that alone would probably exonerate them from any dumb lawsuit , plus they clearly states that they would credit and btc to bcc on 1 to 1 basis if you got your btc into thier exchange befor July 29

not sure what all the butthurt is about, win some you lose some in crypto, pply whining should have kept thier bcc on the exchange of they wanted to profit, but they chose safety of personal wallets to the exhange its a tradeoff you have to take.  If btc had had a bad fork or huge bugs messed up bittrexx back end etc and ppls btc got lost or stuck the shoe would been on the other foot smh


they have setup a class action lawsuit against their exchange.  anyone that had an account and had btc anywhere but in their exchange would have a shot at them.

worse then then this is  problem is well all just watched BTC lose all it integrity as a stable tradable commodity .

but  none of it matters   all that matters is enough people continue to believe in the  value of the coin.
legendary
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where is my damn BCH you assholes every other exchange has credited

LOL , well at least they responded, bittrexx or polo would have ignored this for days
legendary
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Philip

Did the Bitttrex block BTC withdrawals ?


Nope I withdrew some btc today, thier not blocking anything right now , btc or bcc, but if you try and withdraw or deposit bcc it would take days.

I dont see how you can logically compare btc-e with bittrexx lol ? Btce e had a cofounder who was part of the team that hacked mtgox and stole 700k btc , basically billions then was able to launder it through cash via a btce directley into thier hotwallet which means the owners of Btce were basically his partners and thus complicit

also btce had no id verification or anything and was commonly used to luander btc from the silk road and dark net into roubles or usd.

I can list ten more actions they did that cuased then to be shit down , plus Its a russia vs usa thing going on as well so they were caught up in that as well.

what bittrexx did sucks but you never would have got your bcc there in time to take advantage of the pump in any case , that alone would probably exonerate them from any dumb lawsuit , plus they clearly states that they would credit and btc to bcc on 1 to 1 basis if you got your btc into thier exchange befor July 29

not sure what all the butthurt is about, win some you lose some in crypto, pply whining should have kept thier bcc on the exchange of they wanted to profit, but they chose safety of personal wallets to the exhange its a tradeoff you have to take.  If btc had had a bad fork or huge bugs messed up bittrexx back end etc and ppls btc got lost or stuck the shoe would been on the other foot smh
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Philip

Did the Bitttrex block BTC withdrawals ?
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'

Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.


To be clear it is not an issue to me that they are blocking deposits of bcc.

It is an issue that they are allowing trading of bcc while blocking deposits of bcc.

I am not the government but it looks like they set the company up to get sued by doing this.

1) They knew they would have bcc on hand.

2) They knew they would block deposits .

3) They knew they would allow trading of that bcc for other coins .

This is a perfect setup for insider trading.  1,2,3 are all facts.

They are a USA company.  While not a stock it has been ruled a commodity type asset by the IRS .

Lawsuits are different then criminal statues.  A lawsuit can be won by proponderance of the evidence
While a criminal case needs to be a reasonable doubt .

So A lawsuit 51 percent chance is good
While a criminal  let's say 95 percent is reason able.

If you look at 1 plus 2 plus 3. You only need to show workers, owners ,friends or relatives of bittrex had coins there to win a lawsuit.


This is a big time fuckup.  
Also btc-e was crushed by the Feds a day or two before this happened.

Check the trading of bcc on bittrex well over. 180 not  60 million usd. Not good.
Poor decision any one with bcc not deposit able  can take a shot at any USA exchange that did this.

I see a huge fucking mess oh well.

At least I cashed a lot of btc in July
legendary
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Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.

Yeah i think they knew that going in, with slow blocks even if you sent your BCC to bittrexx it would not get there for days , ppl can try and sue but they wont win any law suits due to the fact the exchanges who colluded will just blame the BCC network status
legendary
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Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.
legendary
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Im sooo glad I never touched a foot into poloniex..... that's my only comment there.

Yobit gave me a 1:1 ratio of BCC to BTC for what I had in my BTC wallet on the exchange... too bad they haven't reloaded their hot wallet in a few weeks or I would have double what I have now....   (owed via signature campaign payments)

BCC seems to be trading wildly, but on the gradual uptick.  I also find it humorous that the BCT forum via the link up top is referring to it as BCH....

Im curious wherein it will finally lie;   as, its value just can't be fathomed up just like the FED does with cash....  its gotta come from "somewhere"...  So where it ends up coming from, is anyone's guess.

Quite a battle back and forth with BTC and BCC... lots of resistance from both sides to move upwards....  Im curious at how long they will hold each other back.

well I have 8 coins in a core 0.14.2 wallet  which is nice as in theroy

 I now have 8 BTC and 8 BCC.

Since I can not deposit the BCC  into bittrex  I am leaving it alone.

I have not split the wallet.  BCC  got up to .43 BTC

So some serious money was made at bittrex if you left coins there. as they are letting you trade it.

yeah i really dropped the ball on this one, i had 10 btc split btwen livecoin and bitrexx, also had another 5 btc in other alts in bittrexx i was loath to liquidate to incrrase my btc before the fork. livecoin still hasnt even started trading let alone crediting bcc, i sold the 5 bcc bittrexx gave me at .244 and .344 half and half , but if i had trusted my gut and sold my 5btc in alts and kept the 5 btc from livecoin in bittrexx it could have been a 15k day of profit for me instead of like what 4k?


Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.
legendary
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Im sooo glad I never touched a foot into poloniex..... that's my only comment there.

Yobit gave me a 1:1 ratio of BCC to BTC for what I had in my BTC wallet on the exchange... too bad they haven't reloaded their hot wallet in a few weeks or I would have double what I have now....   (owed via signature campaign payments)

BCC seems to be trading wildly, but on the gradual uptick.  I also find it humorous that the BCT forum via the link up top is referring to it as BCH....

Im curious wherein it will finally lie;   as, its value just can't be fathomed up just like the FED does with cash....  its gotta come from "somewhere"...  So where it ends up coming from, is anyone's guess.

Quite a battle back and forth with BTC and BCC... lots of resistance from both sides to move upwards....  Im curious at how long they will hold each other back.

well I have 8 coins in a core 0.14.2 wallet  which is nice as in theroy

 I now have 8 BTC and 8 BCC.

Since I can not deposit the BCC  into bittrex  I am leaving it alone.

I have not split the wallet.  BCC  got up to .43 BTC

So some serious money was made at bittrex if you left coins there. as they are letting you trade it.

yeah i really dropped the ball on this one, i had 10 btc split btwen livecoin and bitrexx, also had another 5 btc in other alts in bittrexx i was loath to liquidate to incrrase my btc before the fork. livecoin still hasnt even started trading let alone crediting bcc, i sold the 5 bcc bittrexx gave me at .244 and .344 half and half , but if i had trusted my gut and sold my 5btc in alts and kept the 5 btc from livecoin in bittrexx it could have been a 15k day of profit for me instead of like what 4k?
legendary
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Yeah I just went through the process of transferring all my coins from my old wallet to a newly created wallet.  Remember to change all your mining accounts to mine to your new address on your new wallet.  You still have to keep your old wallet to get your last payments out when they do come in.  Once I have enough confirmations I'll start up the BCC wallet and import the keys.  Anybody have any advice on which BCC wallet to use?
legendary
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so we are all well aware difficulty has spiked over the last day or so.  It's spiked harder than I would have expected.  3 rigs all RX 470/570/580 cards.  Previously i was making about 3.15 eth per month.  Looking @ numbers it looks like that is down to 2.5 eth per month.  I use ethermine as a pool.

I've seen you guys mention a few times using nicehash.  My struggle there is, if i switch to nicehash, and they end up mining ETH anyway, seems like a wasted effort.

Any advice from some of the veterans here?

bump  - any veterans?

keep chugging away with eth or try to flip to another ethhash coin?  There are clearly some very smart people lurking around here.  Looking for a push in the right direction.

BTC survived a major fork, so it will go up in value.

I would focus on BTC because best upside to ROI current rigs and get more rigs...

Nicehash pays in BTC like clockwork

In whattomine.com, Nicehash@Ethash marketplace is the most profitable.... sometimes payout even more than ETH.

If you have a farm of rigs mining ETH..... my advise, stay on because the ice-age effect is bearable due to the big hash power. My 6GHs ETH farm churns about 1.5 ETH per day.

If you have just a couple of rigs, then NH is a good place to further ROI your rigs by collecting BTC.

There are other Ethash/Dagger-Hashimoto coins, Music, Komodo, ETC, UBIQ etc.., but you need a different strategy all together for that.

So the answer to your question is obvious.

Just my 2 cents.
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so we are all well aware difficulty has spiked over the last day or so.  It's spiked harder than I would have expected.  3 rigs all RX 470/570/580 cards.  Previously i was making about 3.15 eth per month.  Looking @ numbers it looks like that is down to 2.5 eth per month.  I use ethermine as a pool.

I've seen you guys mention a few times using nicehash.  My struggle there is, if i switch to nicehash, and they end up mining ETH anyway, seems like a wasted effort.

Any advice from some of the veterans here?

bump  - any veterans?

keep chugging away with eth or try to flip to another ethhash coin?  There are clearly some very smart people lurking around here.  Looking for a push in the right direction.
legendary
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My AR-15 ID's itself as a toaster. Want breakfast?
I personally have a coinbase account with some BTC in it;  I will be monitoring the blockchain of BCC to see if my unique addresses from coinbase popup post-fork.... this will be a true sign if they are doing "dirty business".


I believe phil's comment above in bold is a very real possibility.


and for those who don't know;  BCC has a completely different difficulty retargeting scheme.  Much faster.  MEant to smooth over the transition in hashrates between BTC and BCC.

FYI:  This forum has it posted as BCH;  and yobit and other exchanges labeled it as BCC (which makes more sense to me given its name as BitCoinCash).  I will keep referring to it myself as BCC.

This instant creation of value is going to affect both prices of BTC and BCC in the end;  wherein the impact will be most felt in BTC as it is the higher valued coin.

I personally see BCC becoming "more rare" than BTC because of the fewer people actually splitting their coins, as well as the exchanges/wallets that do not offer the split option....  not to mention the huge premine of satoshi that has yet to be touched (and I doubt ever will be touched).  With how cautious satoshi was at the beginning, I think still to this day, he wouldn't want to chance it coming back to label him as who he is. (or her/she).
legendary
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Now the money is free, and so the people will be
I know very little how it exactly works so maybe that's why I'm more cautious.

My main concern is that:
1; I will split coins
2; now I will sell Bitmain cash
3; I will still hold BTC
4; some time down the line BTC will disappear

I have 5 BTC  so now I will sell 5 Bitmain cash so will be left with 5 BTC.
2-3 months later my 5 BTC will disappear because Bitmain cash was somehow linked with my orig BTC.

This might be complete nonsense for what I know.

Still don't believe that someone is going to give me anything for free in today's world.  

don't know why but i have the same feeling, something seems weird about it all?!?   Huh

If you create a new wallet, then send all your btc over to it, you now have the same btc in a new wallet.  
On a different machine, install the bitcoin cash wallet, and import the seed/private keys from the old wallet (which now has a balance of 0)
you will now have the Bitcoin Cash on the other machine, and your original BTC is safe.
Should be good

edit:  and yeah I sold all my bch i had on bittrex / cryptopia at 0.36 (not a lot)...once the floodgates open for deposits watch out that price is going to crash I think.  Then i'm pretty sure they will pump it up x4 x5 again after a few weeks.
legendary
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I'm not splitting anything at the moment.
I simply do not believe that someone will GIVE you 000's for free.

Too good to be true.

 You apparently missed the ETH / ETC fork-and-split.




 To reflexmk - Poloniex has had tons of issues for quite a while now, which is why I dropped them and won't even LOOK at their broken BS for the foreseeable future.
sr. member
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Guys, can anyone access Poloniex? WTF is with them lately.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I know very little how it exactly works so maybe that's why I'm more cautious.

My main concern is that:
1; I will split coins
2; now I will sell Bitmain cash
3; I will still hold BTC
4; some time down the line BTC will disappear

I have 5 BTC  so now I will sell 5 Bitmain cash so will be left with 5 BTC.
2-3 months later my 5 BTC will disappear because Bitmain cash was somehow linked with my orig BTC.

This might be complete nonsense for what I know.

Still don't believe that someone is going to give me anything for free in today's world.  

don't know why but i have the same feeling, something seems weird about it all?!?   Huh

It is called wealth creation.  High risk shit.  

 Coins have value because we the market say so.  No more complicated then we agree there is value in crypto coins therefore is value in crypto coins.

So if you alter and morph the creator coin BTC it can be worth more   or less.  Very high risk to do this as some may perceive the coin was too easy to change and is too risky.  

Think whales   I can assure you Bittrex made it very easy to get this boost.  Don't you think  the are now open to an insider trader case.

They refuse deposits of other BCC  such as mine all safe in my core wallet.

Or worse yet coinbase  they stole huge amounts of BCC.

Or how about this  coinbase and bittrex did a back door deal and coinbase had 10000 btc on bittrex which was quickly changed to 10000 btc and 10000 bcc which means

10000 x .4 or 4000 btc once you trade the bcc away.


this is a huge fuckup and money grab by insiders  look for a shit ton of shake ups to follow.

well we wait for dust to settle.  but I think  the bold above could be true.

also remember btc-e was raided right before this happened.

there will be a lot of conspiracy theories tossed about.
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