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Is there a way to export the private key(s) from a core wallet in text form, so it can be imported into another wallet?

yes i did it years ago .  you can dump the key to an address   then import the key.

that is not the hard part.


You're right! Pretty easy.

http://bfy.tw/DC9W

Mine was a little bit more of a pain to export and import.  I thought I would just have to do my receiving addresses but in QT there are all these change addresses that are also associated with your wallet.  It wasn't just a simple dumpprivkey
.  Sure that get the majority of your coins but there are still some change addresses in there.  If you do you a dumpwallet "" and you look at that file there are a bunch of addresses in there to import as well.  I might be wrong, but that's what I did.  There's probably an easier way too I imagine.

this was a virgin core made a week or 2 ago with only 2 addresses having coins.

so the dump will be easy enough when I bother to do it.

Coinbase hase announced this:


Dear Coinbase customer,
We wanted to give our customers an update on the recent Bitcoin hard fork. You can read more about what a digital currency fork is here:
https://blog.coinbase.com/what-is-a-bitcoin-fork-cba07fe73ef1
Forks enable innovation and improvements to digital currency and we believe that we will see an increasing number of forks in the future. We expect this to be a vibrant and innovative community.
When a digital currency forks, it creates a new digital asset. Adding new digital assets to Coinbase must be approached with caution. Not every asset is immediately safe to add to Coinbase from a technical stability, security, or compliance point of view.
Our top priority is the safety of customer funds and we spend extensive time designing, building, testing and auditing our systems to ensure that the digital asset we support remains safe and secure. We may not always be first in adding an asset, but if we do, you can be sure that we’ve invested significant time and care into supporting it securely. We believe this is the best approach for us to maintain customer trust.
In the case of bitcoin cash, we made clear to our customers that we did not feel we could safely support it on the day it was launched. For customers who wanted immediate access to their bitcoin cash, we advised them to withdraw their bitcoin from the Coinbase platform. However, there are several points we want to make clear for our customers:
Both bitcoin and bitcoin cash remain safely stored on Coinbase.
Customers with balances of bitcoin at the time of the fork now have an equal quantity of bitcoin cash stored by Coinbase.
We operate by the general principle that our customers should benefit to the greatest extent possible from hard forks or other unexpected events.
Over the last several days, we’ve examined all of the relevant issues and have decided to work on adding support for bitcoin cash for Coinbase customers. We made this decision based on factors such as the security of the network, customer demand, trading volumes, and regulatory considerations.
We are planning to have support for bitcoin cash by January 1, 2018, assuming no additional risks emerge during that time.
Once supported, customers will be able to withdraw bitcoin cash. We'll make a determination at a later date about adding trading support. In the meantime, customer bitcoin cash will remain safely stored on Coinbase.
Thank you,
Coinbase Team
 
© Coinbase 2017

Clever to promise nothing then give something to you in 2018.
 

I guess the outrage was too big.. imagine all the free money they would keep.

Ya, but hold on to it tell January 2018 before allowing people to withdraw it?Huh? sounds like they are just doing enough to try to make the majority happy, but in the meantime while bch spikes back and forth they cant make any money off that free money
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Is there a way to export the private key(s) from a core wallet in text form, so it can be imported into another wallet?

yes i did it years ago .  you can dump the key to an address   then import the key.

that is not the hard part.


You're right! Pretty easy.

http://bfy.tw/DC9W

Mine was a little bit more of a pain to export and import.  I thought I would just have to do my receiving addresses but in QT there are all these change addresses that are also associated with your wallet.  It wasn't just a simple dumpprivkey
.  Sure that get the majority of your coins but there are still some change addresses in there.  If you do you a dumpwallet "" and you look at that file there are a bunch of addresses in there to import as well.  I might be wrong, but that's what I did.  There's probably an easier way too I imagine.

this was a virgin core made a week or 2 ago with only 2 addresses having coins.

so the dump will be easy enough when I bother to do it.

Coinbase hase announced this:


Dear Coinbase customer,
We wanted to give our customers an update on the recent Bitcoin hard fork. You can read more about what a digital currency fork is here:
https://blog.coinbase.com/what-is-a-bitcoin-fork-cba07fe73ef1
Forks enable innovation and improvements to digital currency and we believe that we will see an increasing number of forks in the future. We expect this to be a vibrant and innovative community.
When a digital currency forks, it creates a new digital asset. Adding new digital assets to Coinbase must be approached with caution. Not every asset is immediately safe to add to Coinbase from a technical stability, security, or compliance point of view.
Our top priority is the safety of customer funds and we spend extensive time designing, building, testing and auditing our systems to ensure that the digital asset we support remains safe and secure. We may not always be first in adding an asset, but if we do, you can be sure that we’ve invested significant time and care into supporting it securely. We believe this is the best approach for us to maintain customer trust.
In the case of bitcoin cash, we made clear to our customers that we did not feel we could safely support it on the day it was launched. For customers who wanted immediate access to their bitcoin cash, we advised them to withdraw their bitcoin from the Coinbase platform. However, there are several points we want to make clear for our customers:
Both bitcoin and bitcoin cash remain safely stored on Coinbase.
Customers with balances of bitcoin at the time of the fork now have an equal quantity of bitcoin cash stored by Coinbase.
We operate by the general principle that our customers should benefit to the greatest extent possible from hard forks or other unexpected events.
Over the last several days, we’ve examined all of the relevant issues and have decided to work on adding support for bitcoin cash for Coinbase customers. We made this decision based on factors such as the security of the network, customer demand, trading volumes, and regulatory considerations.
We are planning to have support for bitcoin cash by January 1, 2018, assuming no additional risks emerge during that time.
Once supported, customers will be able to withdraw bitcoin cash. We'll make a determination at a later date about adding trading support. In the meantime, customer bitcoin cash will remain safely stored on Coinbase.
Thank you,
Coinbase Team
 
© Coinbase 2017

Clever to promise nothing then give something to you in 2018.
 

I guess the outrage was too big.. imagine all the free money they would keep.
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'The right to privacy matters'
Is there a way to export the private key(s) from a core wallet in text form, so it can be imported into another wallet?

yes i did it years ago .  you can dump the key to an address   then import the key.

that is not the hard part.


You're right! Pretty easy.

http://bfy.tw/DC9W

Mine was a little bit more of a pain to export and import.  I thought I would just have to do my receiving addresses but in QT there are all these change addresses that are also associated with your wallet.  It wasn't just a simple dumpprivkey
.  Sure that get the majority of your coins but there are still some change addresses in there.  If you do you a dumpwallet "" and you look at that file there are a bunch of addresses in there to import as well.  I might be wrong, but that's what I did.  There's probably an easier way too I imagine.

this was a virgin core made a week or 2 ago with only 2 addresses having coins.

so the dump will be easy enough when I bother to do it.

Coinbase hase announced this:


Dear Coinbase customer,
We wanted to give our customers an update on the recent Bitcoin hard fork. You can read more about what a digital currency fork is here:
https://blog.coinbase.com/what-is-a-bitcoin-fork-cba07fe73ef1
Forks enable innovation and improvements to digital currency and we believe that we will see an increasing number of forks in the future. We expect this to be a vibrant and innovative community.
When a digital currency forks, it creates a new digital asset. Adding new digital assets to Coinbase must be approached with caution. Not every asset is immediately safe to add to Coinbase from a technical stability, security, or compliance point of view.
Our top priority is the safety of customer funds and we spend extensive time designing, building, testing and auditing our systems to ensure that the digital asset we support remains safe and secure. We may not always be first in adding an asset, but if we do, you can be sure that we’ve invested significant time and care into supporting it securely. We believe this is the best approach for us to maintain customer trust.
In the case of bitcoin cash, we made clear to our customers that we did not feel we could safely support it on the day it was launched. For customers who wanted immediate access to their bitcoin cash, we advised them to withdraw their bitcoin from the Coinbase platform. However, there are several points we want to make clear for our customers:
Both bitcoin and bitcoin cash remain safely stored on Coinbase.
Customers with balances of bitcoin at the time of the fork now have an equal quantity of bitcoin cash stored by Coinbase.
We operate by the general principle that our customers should benefit to the greatest extent possible from hard forks or other unexpected events.
Over the last several days, we’ve examined all of the relevant issues and have decided to work on adding support for bitcoin cash for Coinbase customers. We made this decision based on factors such as the security of the network, customer demand, trading volumes, and regulatory considerations.
We are planning to have support for bitcoin cash by January 1, 2018, assuming no additional risks emerge during that time.
Once supported, customers will be able to withdraw bitcoin cash. We'll make a determination at a later date about adding trading support. In the meantime, customer bitcoin cash will remain safely stored on Coinbase.
Thank you,
Coinbase Team
 
© Coinbase 2017

Clever to promise nothing then give something to you in 2018.
 
legendary
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Is there a way to export the private key(s) from a core wallet in text form, so it can be imported into another wallet?

yes i did it years ago .  you can dump the key to an address   then import the key.

that is not the hard part.


You're right! Pretty easy.

http://bfy.tw/DC9W

Mine was a little bit more of a pain to export and import.  I thought I would just have to do my receiving addresses but in QT there are all these change addresses that are also associated with your wallet.  It wasn't just a simple dumpprivkey
.  Sure that get the majority of your coins but there are still some change addresses in there.  If you do you a dumpwallet "" and you look at that file there are a bunch of addresses in there to import as well.  I might be wrong, but that's what I did.  There's probably an easier way too I imagine.
legendary
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Is there a way to export the private key(s) from a core wallet in text form, so it can be imported into another wallet?

yes i did it years ago .  you can dump the key to an address   then import the key.

that is not the hard part.

the hard part is making sure you have a proper bcc wallet.  and I am not so sure the one I downloaded is proper one.

I can now pull the small amount of bcc I have on  hash nest and on  bittrex send it to my 'new' bcc wallet if I get the new bcc to take a bcc deposit at least i would know it is a bcc wallet.

i would then import the smaller  core wallet address hoping to see about .014 bcc

 would then import the bigger core wallet address hoping to se 8.07 bcc

if all that works I could send the coin to bittrex hoping to get confirms  and maybe trade the  8 bcc for 1 btc.

or I could do nothing nada and hope for bcc to take off.

or I could sell  most of my btc and hodl the bcc hoping for a huge bcc rally in a month or two.


I'm in the middle of syncing my BCC wallet now.  I wished I had a large enough spare SSD drive for it because it's taking forever to sync.  I ended up just using Bitcoin ABC wallet.  I'm not sure if it's working properly or not yet and I probably won't know for another day or so as the wallet syncs.  After that I would have to do a test and send a small amount.  Of course if the network is still slow who knows how long it would take to confirm.  Then after that I can send a larger amount.  So by the time I'm all set and done I'm hoping to hit that rally you're talking about in two months. Smiley
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Is there a way to export the private key(s) from a core wallet in text form, so it can be imported into another wallet?

yes i did it years ago .  you can dump the key to an address   then import the key.

that is not the hard part.


You're right! Pretty easy.

http://bfy.tw/DC9W
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Phil where in nj are you. If your in the central / northern area would like to talk to you about solar.


I am in Howell, NJ  which is near Great Adventure in Jackson NJ and Freehold raceway in Freehold NJ

forum member buysolar is my partner with the solar array he has a solar install business.

he has the array in Howell NJ about 2 miles from me.  feel free to message him and quote this post.
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Phil where in nj are you. If your in the central / northern area would like to talk to you about solar.
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'The right to privacy matters'
Is there a way to export the private key(s) from a core wallet in text form, so it can be imported into another wallet?

yes i did it years ago .  you can dump the key to an address   then import the key.

that is not the hard part.

the hard part is making sure you have a proper bcc wallet.  and I am not so sure the one I downloaded is proper one.

I can now pull the small amount of bcc I have on  hash nest and on  bittrex send it to my 'new' bcc wallet if I get the new bcc to take a bcc deposit at least i would know it is a bcc wallet.

i would then import the smaller  core wallet address hoping to see about .014 bcc

 would then import the bigger core wallet address hoping to se 8.07 bcc

if all that works I could send the coin to bittrex hoping to get confirms  and maybe trade the  8 bcc for 1 btc.

or I could do nothing nada and hope for bcc to take off.

or I could sell  most of my btc and hodl the bcc hoping for a huge bcc rally in a month or two.
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Is there a way to export the private key(s) from a core wallet in text form, so it can be imported into another wallet?
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'The right to privacy matters'

Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.


To be clear it is not an issue to me that they are blocking deposits of bcc.

It is an issue that they are allowing trading of bcc while blocking deposits of bcc.

I am not the government but it looks like they set the company up to get sued by doing this.

1) They knew they would have bcc on hand.

2) They knew they would block deposits .

3) They knew they would allow trading of that bcc for other coins .

This is a perfect setup for insider trading.  1,2,3 are all facts.

They are a USA company.  While not a stock it has been ruled a commodity type asset by the IRS .

Lawsuits are different then criminal statues.  A lawsuit can be won by proponderance of the evidence
While a criminal case needs to be a reasonable doubt .

So A lawsuit 51 percent chance is good
While a criminal  let's say 95 percent is reason able.

If you look at 1 plus 2 plus 3. You only need to show workers, owners ,friends or relatives of bittrex had coins there to win a lawsuit.


This is a big time fuckup.  
Also btc-e was crushed by the Feds a day or two before this happened.

Check the trading of bcc on bittrex well over. 180 not  60 million usd. Not good.
Poor decision any one with bcc not deposit able  can take a shot at any USA exchange that did this.

I see a huge fucking mess oh well.

At least I cashed a lot of btc in July


We all aslo knew 1 2 and 3 bittrex were very open about what would likely happen.

I don't see how bittrex would be liable for anything they were 100% open and transparent about what was going to happen well before any of it happened.  You were given warning after warning that if you wanted to get BCC you had to have your money on the exchange and BTC/USDT would be locked from such and such periods.  

After the snapshot they were again open and transparent about what would be happening.  This is altcoins not stocks.  You can't just allow transfers in and out willy nilly.  It has to be timed and tested, the fact is they COULD not allow transfers without risking people losing coins because of the nature of how the fork occured, it's just not possible.

There is no reason why people can't trade on bittrex if the coins are already there.  Also nothing stopping you transfering any coin you want say ETH.  Selling it for BTC and buying BCC while the BTC wallets were locked,  actually you could have even done that before the snapshot.  Everything was done for a stability and security reason.  You couldn't prove otherwise in court.

Bittrex had the largest amount or one of the largest amounts of BCC on exchange which allowed whales to manipulate stupid people that bought into BCC.  Other exchanges didn't get so badly suckered.

If you kept your BTC on your trezor, you did so as a security measure when the fork hit.  The rest of us took a risk and held it on exchanges.  I personally held all my BTC on bittrex and sold off my BCC when it hit $750.  That was my risk and it paid off.

BCC will dump down to barely anything if BCC actually makes it onto bittrex from places like trezor wallets and other exchanges like Pol that took all the BCC for themselves.

THing is you need 20 confirms.  That will take more than a day, and may even stall the price will dump before any of it hits.  Bittrex did everything pretty professionally I have to say.  

If there is any lawsuites to be had is will be against places that did not give out BCC.  But even then you were warned weeks in advance to get your BTC off certain places and announcements were made as to which exchanges were and were not supporting BCC.  And then you were given eve more chance to move that BTC onto exchanges with locked wallets via other coins if you wanted to take that risk.



  Hey  what do I know .  I just a 60 year guy typing on a keyboard in New Jersey.


Haha ... I am just a 37 year old .. could say the same Cheesy.  You could be correct the USA is famous for lawsuits and shit like that but personally as a user of Bittrex and I am more into trading coins than mining, I thought Bittrex handled the whole matter reasonably well.  I'd personally prefer they had statements directly on their exchange rather than having to be on a mailing list/twitter to get the info but it is what it is right now :/.

No worries  I mine more due to the solar array helping power costs.

Of the 8.xx coins on my core wallet

   4 were an escrow
   3 were in partnership with buysolar
   1 was mine

so 2.5 of the 8  are mine  which  at peak was 2.5 x .4 = 1 btc

i think we are now at  2.5 x .175 = .4375 btc

If I do it correctly

at the moment I don't have a certain  wallet to export the core to.. I will  study it a bit more and try in the morning.

1 very  good thing is all the btc is intact. I think I will sell some tonight.
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Guys!!

When will we see the "FLOOD" of GPUs onto Ebay etc? I think we have talked about this for a while, but im waiting and waiting for my cheap GPUs  Huh Shocked Angry Angry

I am keen on used 1070s at below AMD pricing  Grin

 The flood isn't due PROBABLY 'till ETH goes more POS than not - unless ETH has a major price collapse (down into DOUBLE digit range) before that point.

 I also don't see 1070 cards going for LESS than RX cards (except RX Vega) - it's the RX 470/480/570/580 that the "flood" is going to hammer the hardest as they are the most used in ETH.



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Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.


To be clear it is not an issue to me that they are blocking deposits of bcc.

It is an issue that they are allowing trading of bcc while blocking deposits of bcc.

I am not the government but it looks like they set the company up to get sued by doing this.

1) They knew they would have bcc on hand.

2) They knew they would block deposits .

3) They knew they would allow trading of that bcc for other coins .

This is a perfect setup for insider trading.  1,2,3 are all facts.

They are a USA company.  While not a stock it has been ruled a commodity type asset by the IRS .

Lawsuits are different then criminal statues.  A lawsuit can be won by proponderance of the evidence
While a criminal case needs to be a reasonable doubt .

So A lawsuit 51 percent chance is good
While a criminal  let's say 95 percent is reason able.

If you look at 1 plus 2 plus 3. You only need to show workers, owners ,friends or relatives of bittrex had coins there to win a lawsuit.


This is a big time fuckup.  
Also btc-e was crushed by the Feds a day or two before this happened.

Check the trading of bcc on bittrex well over. 180 not  60 million usd. Not good.
Poor decision any one with bcc not deposit able  can take a shot at any USA exchange that did this.

I see a huge fucking mess oh well.

At least I cashed a lot of btc in July


We all aslo knew 1 2 and 3 bittrex were very open about what would likely happen.

I don't see how bittrex would be liable for anything they were 100% open and transparent about what was going to happen well before any of it happened.  You were given warning after warning that if you wanted to get BCC you had to have your money on the exchange and BTC/USDT would be locked from such and such periods.  

After the snapshot they were again open and transparent about what would be happening.  This is altcoins not stocks.  You can't just allow transfers in and out willy nilly.  It has to be timed and tested, the fact is they COULD not allow transfers without risking people losing coins because of the nature of how the fork occured, it's just not possible.

There is no reason why people can't trade on bittrex if the coins are already there.  Also nothing stopping you transfering any coin you want say ETH.  Selling it for BTC and buying BCC while the BTC wallets were locked,  actually you could have even done that before the snapshot.  Everything was done for a stability and security reason.  You couldn't prove otherwise in court.

Bittrex had the largest amount or one of the largest amounts of BCC on exchange which allowed whales to manipulate stupid people that bought into BCC.  Other exchanges didn't get so badly suckered.

If you kept your BTC on your trezor, you did so as a security measure when the fork hit.  The rest of us took a risk and held it on exchanges.  I personally held all my BTC on bittrex and sold off my BCC when it hit $750.  That was my risk and it paid off.

BCC will dump down to barely anything if BCC actually makes it onto bittrex from places like trezor wallets and other exchanges like Pol that took all the BCC for themselves.

THing is you need 20 confirms.  That will take more than a day, and may even stall the price will dump before any of it hits.  Bittrex did everything pretty professionally I have to say.  

If there is any lawsuites to be had is will be against places that did not give out BCC.  But even then you were warned weeks in advance to get your BTC off certain places and announcements were made as to which exchanges were and were not supporting BCC.  And then you were given eve more chance to move that BTC onto exchanges with locked wallets via other coins if you wanted to take that risk.



  Hey  what do I know .  I just a 60 year guy typing on a keyboard in New Jersey.


Haha ... I am just a 37 year old .. could say the same Cheesy.  You could be correct the USA is famous for lawsuits and shit like that but personally as a user of Bittrex and I am more into trading coins than mining, I thought Bittrex handled the whole matter reasonably well.  I'd personally prefer they had statements directly on their exchange rather than having to be on a mailing list/twitter to get the info but it is what it is right now :/.
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'The right to privacy matters'

Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.


To be clear it is not an issue to me that they are blocking deposits of bcc.

It is an issue that they are allowing trading of bcc while blocking deposits of bcc.

I am not the government but it looks like they set the company up to get sued by doing this.

1) They knew they would have bcc on hand.

2) They knew they would block deposits .

3) They knew they would allow trading of that bcc for other coins .

This is a perfect setup for insider trading.  1,2,3 are all facts.

They are a USA company.  While not a stock it has been ruled a commodity type asset by the IRS .

Lawsuits are different then criminal statues.  A lawsuit can be won by proponderance of the evidence
While a criminal case needs to be a reasonable doubt .

So A lawsuit 51 percent chance is good
While a criminal  let's say 95 percent is reason able.

If you look at 1 plus 2 plus 3. You only need to show workers, owners ,friends or relatives of bittrex had coins there to win a lawsuit.


This is a big time fuckup.  
Also btc-e was crushed by the Feds a day or two before this happened.

Check the trading of bcc on bittrex well over. 180 not  60 million usd. Not good.
Poor decision any one with bcc not deposit able  can take a shot at any USA exchange that did this.

I see a huge fucking mess oh well.

At least I cashed a lot of btc in July


We all aslo knew 1 2 and 3 bittrex were very open about what would likely happen.

I don't see how bittrex would be liable for anything they were 100% open and transparent about what was going to happen well before any of it happened.  You were given warning after warning that if you wanted to get BCC you had to have your money on the exchange and BTC/USDT would be locked from such and such periods.  

After the snapshot they were again open and transparent about what would be happening.  This is altcoins not stocks.  You can't just allow transfers in and out willy nilly.  It has to be timed and tested, the fact is they COULD not allow transfers without risking people losing coins because of the nature of how the fork occured, it's just not possible.

There is no reason why people can't trade on bittrex if the coins are already there.  Also nothing stopping you transfering any coin you want say ETH.  Selling it for BTC and buying BCC while the BTC wallets were locked,  actually you could have even done that before the snapshot.  Everything was done for a stability and security reason.  You couldn't prove otherwise in court.

Bittrex had the largest amount or one of the largest amounts of BCC on exchange which allowed whales to manipulate stupid people that bought into BCC.  Other exchanges didn't get so badly suckered.

If you kept your BTC on your trezor, you did so as a security measure when the fork hit.  The rest of us took a risk and held it on exchanges.  I personally held all my BTC on bittrex and sold off my BCC when it hit $750.  That was my risk and it paid off.

BCC will dump down to barely anything if BCC actually makes it onto bittrex from places like trezor wallets and other exchanges like Pol that took all the BCC for themselves.

THing is you need 20 confirms.  That will take more than a day, and may even stall the price will dump before any of it hits.  Bittrex did everything pretty professionally I have to say.  

If there is any lawsuites to be had is will be against places that did not give out BCC.  But even then you were warned weeks in advance to get your BTC off certain places and announcements were made as to which exchanges were and were not supporting BCC.  And then you were given eve more chance to move that BTC onto exchanges with locked wallets via other coins if you wanted to take that risk.



  Hey  what do I know .  I just a 60 year guy typing on a keyboard in New Jersey.
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Going to be lots of screaming about inside trading.

I see lots and lots and lots of litigation against bittrex for not allowing bcc deposits but allowing trading of bcc for other coins.

I see lawsuits against coinbase for not crediting bcc to those that held btc there.

I also see wild times coming this was a huge money grab by bittrex by not allowing deposits of bcc .

Any exchange that did not take bcc deposits but allowed bcc trading is going to worry about being sued.

Oh well.

I think even if you were allowed to deposit into there the blocks are so few and far in between that it would take quite a while to transfer into there.  Hopefully the difficulty adjusts soon.  Plus once you can deposit in there that might open the floodgates for people to dump on there as well.


To be clear it is not an issue to me that they are blocking deposits of bcc.

It is an issue that they are allowing trading of bcc while blocking deposits of bcc.

I am not the government but it looks like they set the company up to get sued by doing this.

1) They knew they would have bcc on hand.

2) They knew they would block deposits .

3) They knew they would allow trading of that bcc for other coins .

This is a perfect setup for insider trading.  1,2,3 are all facts.

They are a USA company.  While not a stock it has been ruled a commodity type asset by the IRS .

Lawsuits are different then criminal statues.  A lawsuit can be won by proponderance of the evidence
While a criminal case needs to be a reasonable doubt .

So A lawsuit 51 percent chance is good
While a criminal  let's say 95 percent is reason able.

If you look at 1 plus 2 plus 3. You only need to show workers, owners ,friends or relatives of bittrex had coins there to win a lawsuit.


This is a big time fuckup.  
Also btc-e was crushed by the Feds a day or two before this happened.

Check the trading of bcc on bittrex well over. 180 not  60 million usd. Not good.
Poor decision any one with bcc not deposit able  can take a shot at any USA exchange that did this.

I see a huge fucking mess oh well.

At least I cashed a lot of btc in July


We all aslo knew 1 2 and 3 bittrex were very open about what would likely happen.

I don't see how bittrex would be liable for anything they were 100% open and transparent about what was going to happen well before any of it happened.  You were given warning after warning that if you wanted to get BCC you had to have your money on the exchange and BTC/USDT would be locked from such and such periods.  

After the snapshot they were again open and transparent about what would be happening.  This is altcoins not stocks.  You can't just allow transfers in and out willy nilly.  It has to be timed and tested, the fact is they COULD not allow transfers without risking people losing coins because of the nature of how the fork occured, it's just not possible.

There is no reason why people can't trade on bittrex if the coins are already there.  Also nothing stopping you transfering any coin you want say ETH.  Selling it for BTC and buying BCC while the BTC wallets were locked,  actually you could have even done that before the snapshot.  Everything was done for a stability and security reason.  You couldn't prove otherwise in court.

Bittrex had the largest amount or one of the largest amounts of BCC on exchange which allowed whales to manipulate stupid people that bought into BCC.  Other exchanges didn't get so badly suckered.

If you kept your BTC on your trezor, you did so as a security measure when the fork hit.  The rest of us took a risk and held it on exchanges.  I personally held all my BTC on bittrex and sold off my BCC when it hit $750.  That was my risk and it paid off.

BCC will dump down to barely anything if BCC actually makes it onto bittrex from places like trezor wallets and other exchanges like Pol that took all the BCC for themselves.

THing is you need 20 confirms.  That will take more than a day, and may even stall the price will dump before any of it hits.  Bittrex did everything pretty professionally I have to say.  

If there is any lawsuites to be had is will be against places that did not give out BCC.  But even then you were warned weeks in advance to get your BTC off certain places and announcements were made as to which exchanges were and were not supporting BCC.  And then you were given eve more chance to move that BTC onto exchanges with locked wallets via other coins if you wanted to take that risk.

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Not sure what Bittrex did wrong in this split... I think they actually handled it quite well as my BCH was credited in my wallet there quicker than I expected. I have since sold it for BTC in 2 chunks... both above .3 BTC, so pretty happy overall.  I am not grasping why them allowing trading but not transfers off the site is a big issue.  If you help BTC and were credited BCH on Bittrex and wanted to move the $ off bittrex, you could just do like I did and sell it for BTC then move the BTC.  The other scenario would be if you held BTC in cold wallet and wanted to move your resulting BCH after the split to Bittrex... but  I dont see why that would count against Bittrex.  Plus, they published what they would  be doing several days prior so not sure what the issue is. Certainly, they handled it WAY better than Coinbase did.

Now, to the US Gov issue... certainly any US-based exchange is a potential target for them. I would like to think that they only go after ones with clear wrong-doings like BTC-e but sadly that is far from the case.  The bottom line is that with VERY few exceptions, the primary or sole driver for them is cash grabbing. If they stand to make a killing by shutting anything down, theree's a very good chance they will do it... with or without cause.  A primary example of this is the DOJ shutting down Poker Stars and Full Tilt Poker a few years back. Of course they used some BS interpretation of some archaic law to justify it, but everyone knows that it was done becasue they saw a HUGE amount of money being played with and they were not getting 1 cent of it!  Now, after many years, Poker Stars is back in a couple of states, but of course, only because they are "officially licensed" meaning, the government is getting their piece of the pie. 
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99% wallets on my M2 and Trezor.

Cryptopia and Bitrex for trading.... I barely have more than 1 BTC at anytime on exchanges.
All coins are transferred to the M2 PC right away.
Most of my alt-coins besides whats on Trezors are POS and dividend paying coins.

@vg54dett - have you seen EXODUS wallet?

Thanks, I will give a try for exodus, even if it doesn't seem to support many more coins than Jaxx or Ledger. Will try anyway.

Same for Cryptopia, havent investigated yet, but could be a possibility to diversify from bittrex. ( before the Phil's lax action  Grin )
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'The right to privacy matters'
but both can be crushed by US Gov.  and unfortunately bittrex has given the gov and lawyers reason to go after them  by they way they handled this break.

Of course I am not in the know and for all I know bitter and coinbase both are in the us gov 's pocket and will be protected while btc-e in putties' pocket got crushed on a very good date a few days before many many many bcc coins were created.  the timing of the gov shutdown of btc-e shows the us gov aint too dumb as you may think bro.    how many bcc will they now grab?
I was unaware that Bittrex did anything wrong.. I got my BCC unlike most other places who kept it or simply ignored it. Did you mean another exchange or is this something I am not aware of going on with Bittrex? Are you referring to their keeping the trading close to the public yet allowing the supposedly "insider trading"?

To be honest I think they are the once who have handled this the best.. I got my BCC in my account right away and figured the wallet would be down for a period while they figured out who had what, brought the market online, and did this that and the other.

personally  they were better in giving the bcc out fast,  but stupid to allow trading and bar deposits .

it leaves them open to insider trading accusations b anyone and every that was barred deposits.

and this was done right on the heels of the us gov making a big bust of btc-e.

but as I said maybe bittrex acts as the us gov's white hat so to speak.

I am finally ready to send my  btc empty but bcc full core  wallet to some bcc wallet but I think I will sit on it.

may be a bad move.  we will see.
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but both can be crushed by US Gov.  and unfortunately bittrex has given the gov and lawyers reason to go after them  by they way they handled this break.

Of course I am not in the know and for all I know bitter and coinbase both are in the us gov 's pocket and will be protected while btc-e in putties' pocket got crushed on a very good date a few days before many many many bcc coins were created.  the timing of the gov shutdown of btc-e shows the us gov aint too dumb as you may think bro.    how many bcc will they now grab?
I was unaware that Bittrex did anything wrong.. I got my BCC unlike most other places who kept it or simply ignored it. Did you mean another exchange or is this something I am not aware of going on with Bittrex? Are you referring to their keeping the trading close to the public yet allowing the supposedly "insider trading"?

To be honest I think they are the once who have handled this the best.. I got my BCC in my account right away and figured the wallet would be down for a period while they figured out who had what, brought the market online, and did this that and the other.
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Philip

Did the Bitttrex block BTC withdrawals ?


Nope I withdrew some btc today, thier not blocking anything right now , btc or bcc, but if you try and withdraw or deposit bcc it would take days.

I dont see how you can logically compare btc-e with bittrexx lol ? Btce e had a cofounder who was part of the team that hacked mtgox and stole 700k btc , basically billions then was able to launder it through cash via a btce directley into thier hotwallet which means the owners of Btce were basically his partners and thus complicit

also btce had no id verification or anything and was commonly used to luander btc from the silk road and dark net into roubles or usd.

I can list ten more actions they did that cuased then to be shit down , plus Its a russia vs usa thing going on as well so they were caught up in that as well.

what bittrexx did sucks but you never would have got your bcc there in time to take advantage of the pump in any case , that alone would probably exonerate them from any dumb lawsuit , plus they clearly states that they would credit and btc to bcc on 1 to 1 basis if you got your btc into thier exchange befor July 29

not sure what all the butthurt is about, win some you lose some in crypto, pply whining should have kept thier bcc on the exchange of they wanted to profit, but they chose safety of personal wallets to the exhange its a tradeoff you have to take.  If btc had had a bad fork or huge bugs messed up bittrexx back end etc and ppls btc got lost or stuck the shoe would been on the other foot smh

Hallo Smiley

I'm not sure if we were discussing BTC-E so I'm a bit lost with your reply.

Btw.
You have nothing in your hands against BTC-E or Vinik or what is guys name so I'm not sure what are you trying to say.

Believing USA and it's agencies Huh?
Are you having a laugh or are you considering me being retarded Huh?
lol.
Lol so youre trying to say he didnt do many of the things they said he did, Are you kidding me?
Independent investigators traced the btc he stole from mt gox directly into btce hotwallets? Ive see the blockchain transaction data myself Its public info , they didnt even try and mix it 😂😂

http://blog.wizsec.jp/2017/07/breaking-open-mtgox-1.html?m=1

there is no overarching conspiracy here bro, they laundered money for a hacker and got caught

I'm not claiming anything here.

I'm saying that I have 0 zero null trust in US agencies.


as u should but the us govt is too dumb to have figured out the paper trail themselvs , they are stupid af
when it comes to tech and blockchain in general, they were provided the infomation by independent blockchain analyts and the moved on the intel simply becuase they saw a way to hurt russia, not that they give af about

brining that crook to justice, shutting down btce hurts russians and putins cronies who are in oppositions to the usa's interests btce was simply caught in the crossfire.  Now its a bit harder for easter oligarchs to wash thier money , and the usa and nato gets to steal stolen and non stolen funds , win win for them.

the whole point Im trying to make is what btce and bittrexx did are orders of magnitude in separation
not even in the realm of apples to oranges😂

but both can be crushed by US Gov.  and unfortunately bittrex has given the gov and lawyers reason to go after them  by they way they handled this break.

Of course I am not in the know and for all I know bitter and coinbase both are in the us gov 's pocket and will be protected while btc-e in putties' pocket got crushed on a very good date a few days before many many many bcc coins were created.  the timing of the gov shutdown of btc-e shows the us gov aint too dumb as you may think bro.    how many bcc will they now grab?

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