Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big. - page 32.

mraug

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Quote from: citronick on July 30, 2017, 10:10:42 PM

I having second thoughts about this Vega lineup.....1070 and 1080ti are already king in ZEC and a whole bunch of ccminer algos.

Vega Gaming version even with fast HBM2 will be better?

Maybe a price tag of below $200 will change my mind...

Aren't you guys worried about the ZEC price because of speculation about the backdoor?

Are you holding all your ZEC or trading for something?

soothaa

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Quote from: fr4nkthetank on July 31, 2017, 08:31:07 AM

It seems VEGA can do almost 40 eth, maybe more with RX / updates we shall see, but the interesting thing is it can dual mine 3500 - 4500 decred at the same time, which is not too shabby.

It is not outright bad. But as quoted below, it is not what we all hoped it would be. Even still with those numbers a return on investment is not likely for quite a long time unless there are severe shortages and you are a lucky one to grab them early. The network hashrate will adjust within days most likely.

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 31, 2017, 09:17:19 AM

I will get one or two but does not seem like a game changing miner

Yeah that is probably what I will do as well, I have plenty of spare slots and I would love to pick up a couple just to play with. Now if only Newegg accepted straight ETH so I could buy them without any exchanging!

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

I will get one or two but does not seem like a game changing miner

fr4nkthetank

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Now the money is free, and so the people will be

It seems VEGA can do almost 40 eth, maybe more with RX / updates we shall see, but the interesting thing is it can dual mine 3500 - 4500 decred at the same time, which is not too shabby.

soothaa

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VEGA looks pretty disappointing in my opinion. Like you said, it will be all about how many SOLs it can produce and the wattage against the 1080 TI. With its Ethash rate almost the same as the 1080 ti it might just edge it out no matter what, and the lower price helps, but I guess the real question will come down to availability. I can still walk into Microcenter and grab a few 1080 tis no problem, I doubt they will have stock of VEGA sitting around ready to be purchased.

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: citronick on July 30, 2017, 10:10:42 PM

Quote from: Tmdz on July 30, 2017, 09:45:26 PM

Check this out, vega specs finally.

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-56-official-slide-performance-specs-price-leak/

Im interested in the vega 56 line up, which is basically a 1070 card but with HBM2 ram for coins like Zcash could be really good. Im really hoping this will turn out to be the mining sweet spot for rig density and price/performance but that all depends how it performs, ETH not good for HBM2 but some of the others could end up being nice.

I having second thoughts about this Vega lineup.....1070 and 1080ti are already king in ZEC and a whole bunch of ccminer algos.

Vega Gaming version even with fast HBM2 will be better?

Maybe a price tag of below $200 will change my mind...

I see 399 and 499 in that thread.

They may be a good or great zec card.

but at 499 it needs to be able to do 600 sols at 180 watts to be better then the 1080 ti

I can do 640 sols at 170 watts with the 1080 ti and pay 665 with a good deal

the the higher end amd doing 600 sols at 180 watts and costing less per sol makes it better then the 1080ti

citronick

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Quote from: Tmdz on July 30, 2017, 09:45:26 PM

Check this out, vega specs finally.

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-56-official-slide-performance-specs-price-leak/

Im interested in the vega 56 line up, which is basically a 1070 card but with HBM2 ram for coins like Zcash could be really good. Im really hoping this will turn out to be the mining sweet spot for rig density and price/performance but that all depends how it performs, ETH not good for HBM2 but some of the others could end up being nice.

I having second thoughts about this Vega lineup.....1070 and 1080ti are already king in ZEC and a whole bunch of ccminer algos.

Vega Gaming version even with fast HBM2 will be better?

Maybe a price tag of below $200 will change my mind...

philipma1957

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Activity: 4256

Merit: 8551

'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: VoskCoin on July 30, 2017, 09:32:53 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 30, 2017, 09:23:40 PM

simply not worth 2899

3 card 1080 ti.

I paid 770 for the evga 1080 ti
I paid 703 for the zotac 1080 ti mini
I paid 665 for the asus 1080 ti
I paid 121 for the 850 watt quark psu

this is 2259 you can get 1 stick of 8gb ram for 61 and a usb 3 stick for 30 that is 90
this is 91
total 2350 plus 50 for a lowed cpu
50
total 2400 and you can do 2000- 2100 sols vs 2000 sols smaller space use about 600 watts vs 800 watts

mobo 100

2500

I did over kill

I paid 100 for a mobo
I paid 200 for 4 8gb sticks of ram only need 1 stck
I paid 150 for an i5 7500t cpu = overkill
I paid 70 for a 1tb hdd
I paid 30 for a win 10 key

this is 550
plus 2259
total 2809 with way more power then the prebuilt
or 2500 with more power but not killer.

with way still much cheaper then the prebuilt and the 2899 they want does not include shipping

Quote from: citronick on July 30, 2017, 08:15:31 PM

Probably around 2899 USD -- similar to this

https://www.eastshore.xyz/tutorial-ethereum-miner-of-nvidia-p106-100-mining-card-eth-zcash-xmr-supported/
https://www.eastshore.xyz/shop/

Anyways.... the Pandminer episode left a bitter taste - no nightmares like that again...

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 30, 2017, 06:44:38 PM

Quote from: HagssFIN on July 30, 2017, 05:42:45 PM

BW.com hops into to the graphics card mining train with BW-E22 Miner.
Any thoughts?
Seems quite powerful.
It can be found at their Chinese main page.
https://www.bw.com/

Google translate:

Code:

Power supply: 1250W dedicated power supply (chassis external)
System power consumption: 800 ~ 900W
CPU: INTEL CELERON CPU G1840 @ 2.8G dual-core LGA1150
DDR: 4G DDR3 SO-DIMM
SSD: 64G high speed solid state hard drive
NIC: Gigabit Ethernet card
USB: 2 USB2.0
Graphics card: 6 NVIDIA GTX1060 6G Miner dedicated graphics
Display Output: HDMI (Motherboard)
Fan: 3 12038 4PIN server professional fan
Startup: Power on automatically starts
Operating system: WINDOWS 10 / LINUX
Chassis Size: 468mm X 341mm X 133mm
Calculus ETH: 140Mh / s soil 10%, single card 23 Mh / soil 10% s

it is all about price

what do they want for it?

My 3 card 2x 1080 ti and 1 x 1070 would kill it mining zec.

My newer 3x 1080 ti would kill it a bit harder doing zec.

Why 8 gb vs 4gb?

I have found with all 1080 ti's

the cpu can be cheap like a pentium 4400t but it runs a bit smoother with a single 8gb stick

I also grabbed a lot of 8gb sticks at 46 bucks each.

I also grabbed a lot of cpus for 110 to 150 i5 6400t i5 6500t i5 7400t i5 7500t
Since I do eBay sales the cpus are easy to sell back

you can save on the cpu using a 4400t you can save on the ram using 1 4gb stick.

but mobo+cpu+ram last 2-4 years easy with my builds.. So having better specs pays off.

I churn the gpus' every six months or so.

the z170 biostar mobos are great for 2,3,4 card builds and 10 of 11 still work after 16 months . they all have 8gb ram sticks and mostly i5 6400t cpus

they have used rx 470
then rx 480 4gb
then rx 480 8gb
then nvidia 1070
now 1080 ti

maybe amd vega next?

I hope to use those mobos for at least another year.

Remember I stay small in the summer.
I have 5 1080 ti's
I have some test rigs in the house.

I have 7 1080 ti's in the solar array
I have 64th for btc in the solar array.

When it gets cold I will pull the 1080 ti's from the array
bringing me to 12 1080 ti's in the house for heating + mining
and I will add to get to say 16-20 ti's

the mobos + ram + cpu become more like the psu's a long term item

the gpus I will be churning

Tmdz

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Check this out, vega specs finally.

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-56-official-slide-performance-specs-price-leak/

Im interested in the vega 56 line up, which is basically a 1070 card but with HBM2 ram for coins like Zcash could be really good. Im really hoping this will turn out to be the mining sweet spot for rig density and price/performance but that all depends how it performs, ETH not good for HBM2 but some of the others could end up being nice.

citronick

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Activity: 1834

Merit: 1080

---- winter*juvia -----

plus don't forget, non-mining cards have resale value to gaming community, while the mining cards....

my group was this close investing in 120 units of the Pandminer last year.... glad that we didn't go ahead with that plan and did DIY instead

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 30, 2017, 09:23:40 PM

simply not worth 2899

3 card 1080 ti.

I paid 770 for the evga 1080 ti
I paid 703 for the zotac 1080 ti mini
I paid 665 for the asus 1080 ti
I paid 121 for the 850 watt quark psu

this is 2259 you can get 1 stick of 8gb ram for 61 and a usb 3 stick for 30 that is 90
this is 91
total 2350 plus 50 for a lowed cpu
50
total 2400 and you can do 2000- 2100 sols vs 2000 sols smaller space use about 600 watts vs 800 watts

mobo 100

2500

I did over kill

I paid 100 for a mobo
I paid 200 for 4 8gb sticks of ram only need 1 stck
I paid 150 for an i5 7500t cpu = overkill
I paid 70 for a 1tb hdd
I paid 30 for a win 10 key

this is 550
plus 2259
total 2809 with way more power then the prebuilt
or 2500 with more power but not killer.

with way still much cheaper then the prebuilt and the 2899 they want does not include shipping

Quote from: citronick on July 30, 2017, 08:15:31 PM

Probably around 2899 USD -- similar to this

https://www.eastshore.xyz/tutorial-ethereum-miner-of-nvidia-p106-100-mining-card-eth-zcash-xmr-supported/
https://www.eastshore.xyz/shop/

Anyways.... the Pandminer episode left a bitter taste - no nightmares like that again...

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 30, 2017, 06:44:38 PM

Quote from: HagssFIN on July 30, 2017, 05:42:45 PM

BW.com hops into to the graphics card mining train with BW-E22 Miner.
Any thoughts?
Seems quite powerful.
It can be found at their Chinese main page.
https://www.bw.com/

Google translate:

Code:

Power supply: 1250W dedicated power supply (chassis external)
System power consumption: 800 ~ 900W
CPU: INTEL CELERON CPU G1840 @ 2.8G dual-core LGA1150
DDR: 4G DDR3 SO-DIMM
SSD: 64G high speed solid state hard drive
NIC: Gigabit Ethernet card
USB: 2 USB2.0
Graphics card: 6 NVIDIA GTX1060 6G Miner dedicated graphics
Display Output: HDMI (Motherboard)
Fan: 3 12038 4PIN server professional fan
Startup: Power on automatically starts
Operating system: WINDOWS 10 / LINUX
Chassis Size: 468mm X 341mm X 133mm
Calculus ETH: 140Mh / s soil 10%, single card 23 Mh / soil 10% s

it is all about price

what do they want for it?

My 3 card 2x 1080 ti and 1 x 1070 would kill it mining zec.

My newer 3x 1080 ti would kill it a bit harder doing zec.

VoskCoin

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Activity: 1414

Merit: 487

YouTube.com/VoskCoin

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 30, 2017, 09:23:40 PM

simply not worth 2899

3 card 1080 ti.

I paid 770 for the evga 1080 ti
I paid 703 for the zotac 1080 ti mini
I paid 665 for the asus 1080 ti
I paid 121 for the 850 watt quark psu

this is 2259 you can get 1 stick of 8gb ram for 61 and a usb 3 stick for 30 that is 90
this is 91
total 2350 plus 50 for a lowed cpu
50
total 2400 and you can do 2000- 2100 sols vs 2000 sols smaller space use about 600 watts vs 800 watts

mobo 100

2500

I did over kill

I paid 100 for a mobo
I paid 200 for 4 8gb sticks of ram only need 1 stck
I paid 150 for an i5 7500t cpu = overkill
I paid 70 for a 1tb hdd
I paid 30 for a win 10 key

this is 550
plus 2259
total 2809 with way more power then the prebuilt
or 2500 with more power but not killer.

with way still much cheaper then the prebuilt and the 2899 they want does not include shipping

Quote from: citronick on July 30, 2017, 08:15:31 PM

Probably around 2899 USD -- similar to this

https://www.eastshore.xyz/tutorial-ethereum-miner-of-nvidia-p106-100-mining-card-eth-zcash-xmr-supported/
https://www.eastshore.xyz/shop/

Anyways.... the Pandminer episode left a bitter taste - no nightmares like that again...

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 30, 2017, 06:44:38 PM

Quote from: HagssFIN on July 30, 2017, 05:42:45 PM

BW.com hops into to the graphics card mining train with BW-E22 Miner.
Any thoughts?
Seems quite powerful.
It can be found at their Chinese main page.
https://www.bw.com/

Google translate:

Code:

Power supply: 1250W dedicated power supply (chassis external)
System power consumption: 800 ~ 900W
CPU: INTEL CELERON CPU G1840 @ 2.8G dual-core LGA1150
DDR: 4G DDR3 SO-DIMM
SSD: 64G high speed solid state hard drive
NIC: Gigabit Ethernet card
USB: 2 USB2.0
Graphics card: 6 NVIDIA GTX1060 6G Miner dedicated graphics
Display Output: HDMI (Motherboard)
Fan: 3 12038 4PIN server professional fan
Startup: Power on automatically starts
Operating system: WINDOWS 10 / LINUX
Chassis Size: 468mm X 341mm X 133mm
Calculus ETH: 140Mh / s soil 10%, single card 23 Mh / soil 10% s

it is all about price

what do they want for it?

My 3 card 2x 1080 ti and 1 x 1070 would kill it mining zec.

My newer 3x 1080 ti would kill it a bit harder doing zec.

Why 8 gb vs 4gb?

philipma1957

legendary

Activity: 4256

Merit: 8551

'The right to privacy matters'

simply not worth 2899

3 card 1080 ti.

I paid 770 for the evga 1080 ti
I paid 703 for the zotac 1080 ti mini
I paid 665 for the asus 1080 ti
I paid 121 for the 850 watt quark psu

this is 2259 you can get 1 stick of 8gb ram for 61 and a usb 3 stick for 30 that is 90
this is 91
total 2350 plus 50 for a lowed cpu
50
total 2400 and you can do 2000- 2100 sols vs 2000 sols smaller space use about 600 watts vs 800 watts

mobo 100

2500

I did over kill

I paid 100 for a mobo
I paid 200 for 4 8gb sticks of ram only need 1 stck
I paid 150 for an i5 7500t cpu = overkill
I paid 70 for a 1tb hdd
I paid 30 for a win 10 key

this is 550
plus 2259
total 2809 with way more power then the prebuilt
or 2500 with more power but not killer.

with way still much cheaper then the prebuilt and the 2899 they want does not include shipping

Quote from: citronick on July 30, 2017, 08:15:31 PM

Probably around 2899 USD -- similar to this

https://www.eastshore.xyz/tutorial-ethereum-miner-of-nvidia-p106-100-mining-card-eth-zcash-xmr-supported/
https://www.eastshore.xyz/shop/

Anyways.... the Pandminer episode left a bitter taste - no nightmares like that again...

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 30, 2017, 06:44:38 PM

Quote from: HagssFIN on July 30, 2017, 05:42:45 PM

BW.com hops into to the graphics card mining train with BW-E22 Miner.
Any thoughts?
Seems quite powerful.
It can be found at their Chinese main page.
https://www.bw.com/

Google translate:

Code:

Power supply: 1250W dedicated power supply (chassis external)
System power consumption: 800 ~ 900W
CPU: INTEL CELERON CPU G1840 @ 2.8G dual-core LGA1150
DDR: 4G DDR3 SO-DIMM
SSD: 64G high speed solid state hard drive
NIC: Gigabit Ethernet card
USB: 2 USB2.0
Graphics card: 6 NVIDIA GTX1060 6G Miner dedicated graphics
Display Output: HDMI (Motherboard)
Fan: 3 12038 4PIN server professional fan
Startup: Power on automatically starts
Operating system: WINDOWS 10 / LINUX
Chassis Size: 468mm X 341mm X 133mm
Calculus ETH: 140Mh / s soil 10%, single card 23 Mh / soil 10% s

it is all about price

what do they want for it?

My 3 card 2x 1080 ti and 1 x 1070 would kill it mining zec.

My newer 3x 1080 ti would kill it a bit harder doing zec.

citronick

legendary

Activity: 1834

Merit: 1080

---- winter*juvia -----

Probably around 2899 USD -- similar to this

https://www.eastshore.xyz/tutorial-ethereum-miner-of-nvidia-p106-100-mining-card-eth-zcash-xmr-supported/
https://www.eastshore.xyz/shop/

Anyways.... the Pandminer episode left a bitter taste - no nightmares like that again...

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 30, 2017, 06:44:38 PM

Quote from: HagssFIN on July 30, 2017, 05:42:45 PM

BW.com hops into to the graphics card mining train with BW-E22 Miner.
Any thoughts?
Seems quite powerful.
It can be found at their Chinese main page.
https://www.bw.com/

Google translate:

Code:

Power supply: 1250W dedicated power supply (chassis external)
System power consumption: 800 ~ 900W
CPU: INTEL CELERON CPU G1840 @ 2.8G dual-core LGA1150
DDR: 4G DDR3 SO-DIMM
SSD: 64G high speed solid state hard drive
NIC: Gigabit Ethernet card
USB: 2 USB2.0
Graphics card: 6 NVIDIA GTX1060 6G Miner dedicated graphics
Display Output: HDMI (Motherboard)
Fan: 3 12038 4PIN server professional fan
Startup: Power on automatically starts
Operating system: WINDOWS 10 / LINUX
Chassis Size: 468mm X 341mm X 133mm
Calculus ETH: 140Mh / s soil 10%, single card 23 Mh / soil 10% s

it is all about price

what do they want for it?

My 3 card 2x 1080 ti and 1 x 1070 would kill it mining zec.

My newer 3x 1080 ti would kill it a bit harder doing zec.

philipma1957

legendary

Activity: 4256

Merit: 8551

'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: HagssFIN on July 30, 2017, 05:42:45 PM

BW.com hops into to the graphics card mining train with BW-E22 Miner.
Any thoughts?
Seems quite powerful.
It can be found at their Chinese main page.
https://www.bw.com/

Google translate:

Code:

Power supply: 1250W dedicated power supply (chassis external)
System power consumption: 800 ~ 900W
CPU: INTEL CELERON CPU G1840 @ 2.8G dual-core LGA1150
DDR: 4G DDR3 SO-DIMM
SSD: 64G high speed solid state hard drive
NIC: Gigabit Ethernet card
USB: 2 USB2.0
Graphics card: 6 NVIDIA GTX1060 6G Miner dedicated graphics
Display Output: HDMI (Motherboard)
Fan: 3 12038 4PIN server professional fan
Startup: Power on automatically starts
Operating system: WINDOWS 10 / LINUX
Chassis Size: 468mm X 341mm X 133mm
Calculus ETH: 140Mh / s soil 10%, single card 23 Mh / soil 10% s

it is all about price

what do they want for it?

My 3 card 2x 1080 ti and 1 x 1070 would kill it mining zec.

My newer 3x 1080 ti would kill it a bit harder doing zec.

jpouza

legendary

Activity: 2716

Merit: 1116

Quote from: Marvell1 on July 14, 2017, 03:29:45 AM

Quote from: bentcrypto on July 14, 2017, 03:21:49 AM

Absolutely not a waste. My 1070 6 card rigs do 170mh on ETH @ 1200w.
Currently earning slightly more than equihash selling on nicehash

thats bad actually, with the latest claymore my 1070s are doing 180mhs eth and 2300 sia

or 187 eth alone

What's the TDP percentage are you running on your 1070gtx cards?

Here I've got 2x Galax 1070 ITX running at 75% TDP, the bad side is they suck in memory overclock, above 500MHz+ added instability.

HagssFIN

legendary

Activity: 2464

Merit: 1710

Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.

BW.com hops into to the graphics card mining train with BW-E22 Miner.
Any thoughts?
Seems quite powerful.
It can be found at their Chinese main page.
https://www.bw.com/

Google translate:

Code:

Power supply: 1250W dedicated power supply (chassis external)
System power consumption: 800 ~ 900W
CPU: INTEL CELERON CPU G1840 @ 2.8G dual-core LGA1150
DDR: 4G DDR3 SO-DIMM
SSD: 64G high speed solid state hard drive
NIC: Gigabit Ethernet card
USB: 2 USB2.0
Graphics card: 6 NVIDIA GTX1060 6G Miner dedicated graphics
Display Output: HDMI (Motherboard)
Fan: 3 12038 4PIN server professional fan
Startup: Power on automatically starts
Operating system: WINDOWS 10 / LINUX
Chassis Size: 468mm X 341mm X 133mm
Calculus ETH: 140Mh / s soil 10%, single card 23 Mh / soil 10% s

vg54dett

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Activity: 501

Merit: 500

Thx for the advice.

Here is the link to Tails :
https://tails.boum.org/index.en.html

philipma1957

legendary

Activity: 4256

Merit: 8551

'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: vg54dett on July 30, 2017, 09:54:37 AM

for mining I use SMos, not tried nvoc.

But I was thinking abou something simple and secured, maybe for coins management, or trades.
This is a time full of scams, hacks, ransomware, spy etc .. It's always good to learn good habits.

I heard about "Tails", anyone use it ? or maybe similar things ?

No links?

btw your should try nvoc with a nice sized usb stick

you get a full version of linux

good price on a usb stick

https://www.amazon.com/Sandisk-128GB-Flash-memory-Drive/dp/B00P8XQPY4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1501428330&sr=8-3&keywords=sandisk+128gb+usb+3+ultra

vg54dett

hero member

Activity: 501

Merit: 500

for mining I use SMos, not tried nvoc.

But I was thinking abou something simple and secured, maybe for coins management, or trades.
This is a time full of scams, hacks, ransomware, spy etc .. It's always good to learn good habits.

I heard about "Tails", anyone use it ? or maybe similar things ?

philipma1957

legendary

Activity: 4256

Merit: 8551

'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: vg54dett on July 30, 2017, 06:38:21 AM

Guys, would you suggest a USB based OS that ensure privacy/security ?
Maybe for critical operations ?

do you use nvoc 0018?

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