Topic: Fifth alt coin thread last four got too big. - page 45. (Read 47240 times)

Does anyone have any feedback on a good "debug" screen/monitor?  I have miners spread out, and only have a monitor handy for 2 of them.  The machines act differently when they have an actual monitor attached to them, and a hard line network connection. It would be nice to plug in an actual screen and see the bios screen once in a while.

I'm assuming there's a good 7,9, 11" screen out there that could help me out.

I have decided to take a chance on alternative cooling on one of my GPU rigs at my parents, i have been having lots of thermal issues with this Florida heat and after thinking about it over and over because i have turned the cards way down and im still bouncing off 100% fan at peak of the day to stay in the 70c range... i have decided to try out water cooling on one rig, I contacted NZXT, because i did not want to have to purchase waterblocks for every single card i mine with with to do watercooling, so i contacted them asking if i can test out one of their Kraken G12 kits on GPU's mining, they agreed to send me a set of 4 G12 kits and multiple different AIO's they sell to do a partnered sponsorship for an honest review. I am going to be doing 2 different test with these G12 kits, i honestly was not planning to run AIO's on the GPU's, because i have 1 single hybrid 1080ti that i run mining and god bless the poor waterlines on that thing are hot as balls and i had to mount it very carefully, because once the heat got into the lines they wanted to fold over extremely easy.

I am going to do a review on the G12 kit with AIO's to fulfill my obligations, but i plan on installing universal copper GPU waterblocks on them afterwards and run a single custom loop using 1 inch pex tubing with barbed fittings. The reason for the G12/Universal waterblcok route is because, i can return the GPU's back to AIR when i want to sell them later easily and i can reuse the kits along with blocks on different GPU's.

The current plan is to use a portable pool for the concept as the dumping location for heat, i got this idea from the guy in the bitcoin section who watercooled all his Bitmain Antminers and instead of using radiators and fans to cool his loop, he ran the watercooling loop into a large copper spiraled loop that he laid inside of his pool in the backyard of his house. The heat from his Antminer's would be absorbed by the water in his pool and the large body of water would release the heat into the atmosphere.

Instead of using large pumps to push water through all his Gear loops, he used gravity fed system, because the pumps were unable to overcome the resistance of the waterblocks on the Antminers after so many in a loop, so after finding this out he switched to a overflow gravity system, which has larger 2 inch pipes running along the top of the wall as the reservoir basically and each pex line ran off the larger pipe gravity feeding coolant through the machine and back to the pool to cycle again. The larger pipe on the walls is fed by multiple cheaper pumps to split the load and a overflow level is used to dump excess pumped fluid back to the pump.

this is because your style of play is all out.  my thoughts are  if it all crashes and burns  your shot at selling the paid for cards at retail or retail plus is gone .

so if you have 6000 retail in rx cards paid you can get 6000 retail or maybe 6200 retail.

and  keep 3100 in cash and 3100 in some type of coin.

an absolute certain win of 3100 cash  and if the coin you held  stays hot and goes up  you have a certain win that become bigger.

if the coin you held drops to 500  you still have the 500 worth of coin  and the 3100 cash.

if the market bombs  and you did not sell the cards will drop to 1000 or so in value.  giving you

1000 and maybe 200 or 300 in coin.   well under   3100 and 500 in coin.




now all my numbers do not take into account free power factor.

if you are a true free power guy  just mine as the cards always earn something.

Thoughts on litecoin diff / impending increase of diff as July l3+ get delivered and many more coming in the next 2 months?

I don't understand why the miners sell so high right now, it seems it may make more sense to sell the miner now vs mining with it?

About Amd card, that's why I talked about roied ones. (they seems out of stock worldwide)

About GT1070 , their prices went up too ...

I agree with you for the others things. Profitability in December/January (before price surge) was way lower than last summer.

I thought, everything was answered in the last 2 threads
Thank you for your job,philipma1957! You answer hundreds of newbies and help our bitcoin-society to develop.

 It would seem you missed the insane gouge pricing on RX 470/480/570/580 models that have put most of them *WHEN AVAILABLE AT ALL* commonly into GTX 1070 and sometimes GTX 1080 price levels the last 2-3 months.


 ETH network hashrate has stagnated for about a week now, I do NOT see it going up 40% or even 10% unless the price makes a serious move upwards.

 Profitability isn't much IF ANY better right now than it was the middle of last summer, when ETH hashrate was climbing a few percent A MONTH most months.

....and here I am still mining with my GTX980 because I bought it with hard earned cash (before I began my mining ventures) just for playing video games....  That thing cost me over $650 originally.... which was a HUGE expense in my book then  Hard to let go of it... but it is still up for grabs if someone buys it XD

Such a low feeling (to me) selling it for even $250 now...  then again, its earned me quite a pretty penny in its time.  ROI'd several times over already.

And I bought my 1070 FTW DT ACX3 for gaming as well (and mining), and paid almost $600, right before its price dropped due to the Ti launch announcement months later...   I don't mind though =)  I think this one paid itself off during the rise to the peak of the recent bubble.  But I don't care about the ROI figure given its use.

Not so simple ...
Mining with AMD card, paid off or not, is still a good way of getting ETHs ..
Profit is still very higher than the one we had in january for example. And I remember that in january, many people were buying brand new AMD gpus with way longer expected ROI than today. (due to Eth rates)

At the moment, there is nothing really better than AMD roied cards for mining. Or is there somehting new I missed ?

All 4 Cards are Zotac AMP , different core settings because the two bad cards where hitting 2GHZ and crashing when having positive offset on core clock ,removing the core OC and raising the power target helped with stability a bit .
Will give it a try and let you know .

From the ETH dev meeting.... looks like there is going to be a big relief and continuity for ETH mining.... hope this happens.
My group has a 6GHs ETH farm and we are watching this development very closely....

https://themerkle.com/ethereum-developers-contemplate-delaying-difficulty-bomb-by-another-1-4-years/

Okay

pull the 1070.

and using msi after burner synch the 4 1080 ti's

use tdp 75%
core 100
ram -500
fan 75%

also the exact make and model of your 4 1080 ti's

I have found some 1070's  do not like running with 1080 ti's

the galax katana  1070 slim  did not like running with 1080 ti's using msi afterburner.

I can see  your 4 1080 ti's have different core settings  I wonder why.

are they different sets of 1080 ti's

gigabyte aorus  1080 ti is a bit weird for me

I wonder if you have gigabyte's and they are acting up.

by the way  2 and 3 card rigs  can fix this it could be impossible for a fix on a five card rig due to driver conflict.

is that card upclocked, or downclocked?  Is it clocked the same as all other cards in the rig, or were they all clocked individually? What does its graph look like with no clock change?  

ASIC quality may be a possibility....   for the level of optimizations in the miner app that has trouble that is.....

can still pull away quickly  on any big jump day.

many pool do not pay until you reach

a 0.1 eth level  even that can slide away. Still  I am of the opinion if you reached complete roi on any amd card  you should sell and hold the btc.

or hold ½ the btc and ½ in cash

or hold ⅓ btc ⅓ cash ⅓ zec (or any coin of your choice)

there is no need to mine with amd rx 470/rx 480/ rx 570 / rx 580

if you have achieved roi with the card.

if you have paid off the card and sell it off close to retail  it is pure profit.

not very complicated.

the worst that happens is coins take off in price.  but if you sold 6000 retail worth of cards for 6000

and have 2000 cash 2000 btc 2000 zec or eth

you score anyway.

and no matter what happens you made a profit.  Take a break and wait for new cards.  you can get them in the fall.

it makes next to 0 $$$ sense to continue mining with paid off amd cards at this moment.  mind you paid off cards.  not card you have yet to pay off that is more complicated.

@philipma1957

Have you seen anything like this.
GPU4(Afterburner) always struggle  to run 100% core usage , rarely if ever works as it should , tried changing riser , Mobo , windows version and still no luck , same card always doing that problem on Zec , when i use Claymore ETH it is working as it should.higher PT slightly helps but eventually hangs
GPU3 is a luck of the draw , sometimes 100% and sometimes up and down but never hangs , what do you think is the problem

Since a week, it is quite stable. Something is going to happen to surge +40%


Here is the answer I wanted.
Thank you.
Within Ethpool , the fast difficulty rise is a real problem because as you said, you could run and run after a reward that always go away from you.

But what about regular pools?
I think this effect is still limited.
That's what I asked in my previous posts. (maybe my translations are not accurate enough to be understood properly)

I understand the Ethpool problem. And  for that case NH will be safer.
But I'm not sure it is the same for regular pools, as they can pay on daily basis and small amounts.

Thank you for trying to help,
but unfortunately that was not my question

Of course I know what is a difficulty, and what it imply to profit.

I was asking "But in the end, isn't it the same ?" in answer to Citronick's "If you hash small hash - you will see the reward getting longer and longer very soon".
I will tell it another way with an example :
If you earn 5 Eths in 5 days, it doesn't matter if you get 1 Eth each day , or nothing during 4 days then 5 Eths the last day, because in the end, you have 5 Eths anyway.
Of course with difficulty increase, reward decrease. So it takes longer to get a decent amount. But NH or a pool seems to be the same : after a few days, you should have earned the same amount on both.
A little bit less with NH as they always pay lower than expected.

LOL... nice nick and good summary

vg54dett.... I think best other way to explain this is "opportunities lost vs opportunities gained" if the rigs mine somewhere else with high but not mad high difficulty.

ETH mining has gone into crazy ultra-madness difficultly level, next jump is expected to be up by +40% (according to BBT), if the ETH devs dont do anything about it...

so I think if you caught by this jump up...... example: if you have a few rigs and see ethpool dashboard saying your reward in 5 days.... in the next five days.... you see the same dashboard, I am not surprised, if it says "reward in next 4 days" !