I'm not BFL you moron.
All you do is repeat the same red text saying "there's no confirmation" despite there being moderate levels of confirmation. Enough "confirmation" for a criminal trial? Fuck no, but the preponderance of the evidence points to real but shitty ASICs.
It's going to be fucking hilarious in 6 months when they finally ship.
you do not see a problem with 6 month from now?
This is where the argument can get confusing for some. The issue isn't "Will they ever ship, EVER", it's "will the highly speculative product be worth the risk after all the gold has already been mined?".
They advertised made-to-order shovels, but they're waiting until after the gold rush is over to provide them it seems.
That's why I suggested in the beginning of March we should do this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-not-we-all-request-refunds-on-a-mass-level-power-in-the-people-151619
And yes, I've already got my refund from the two orders I had. Too bad I didn't leave them in a wallet long enough. I would have never thought over $240 for bitcoin.