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Quote from: Captain Corporate on June 25, 2020, 01:38:33 PM

It looks like the Arthur-Pjanic deal is a done deal however I do not understand why Barcelona has to sell any players for financial fair play rules? At the end of the day they are getting someone cheaper and there is a trade between two players and Barcelona is making 10 million euro in profit, they are not spending any, which means they shouldn't have to sell anyone to cover the difference since its a positive for them.

I still think its a huge ripoff by Juventus, Arthur is much better and he loves playing in Barcelona and he was just 23 years old, now they will get Pjanic who is totally not needed in Barcelona and old, why are they even doing this trade? What is Barcelona making from this trade to begin with? Do they really think that Pjanic will bring more to Barcelona than Arthur was bringing? I think this is a very bad move on their behalf.

Is a lot more.

Example with easy number.

They bought Arthur for X milions (assuming 50) 3 years ago with a 5 years contract.
Every year Arthur will cost 50/5=10 milions in the balance

After 3 years they will have 20 left to pay so... if they will sell him for 70

For the financial Fair Play they will have done 50 (cost) -30 (paid) + 70 = 90 milions to sign as a + in the balance

If they will buy Pjanic for 60 they will have done in the end 90-60= +30

Numbers are random but this is an example

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Quote from: AakZaki on June 25, 2020, 12:28:15 PM

Lampard's decision to release the Spaniard does not sound surprising. Because in this 2019/20 season, Pedro has rarely gotten minutes to play because only recorded nine matches in the Premier League.

His age does not favor him at all, we all understand what Lampard is trying to do and that's build the team around young players like Mount. Pulisic, Tammy, Werner etc, Pedro is 33 years old i think and even though he hasn't had any great season with Chelsea, the last two have more or less being poor.

I thought Pedro would go back to Spain when his time at Chelsea expires, i must say I'm surprised with the move to Italy (Roma) imo he does not look like a player that will shine in the Seria A.

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The thing is Harry Kane is only 26 years old right now, and I am sure winning a trophy is a very very valuable thing in life, probably not just emotionally but also financially as well since most teams wants a big winner striker and willing to pay for him.

However I can't stop but think that Spurs could offer Kane only so much, this is a striker that is amazing and could literally play anywhere in the whole world, you can put him at Real Madrid instead of Benzema, you can put him at Barcelona instead of Suarez, you can put him at PSG along with Neymar and Mbappe and make a deadly trio, this dude could play anywhere. It means teams would be willing to pay him insane amount of salary to get him but it is hard to get him when the team doesn't sell for a logical price. So when his contract is over, his agent has a lot of work to do.

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• Meunier (PSG) to Dortmund done deal. (source)

• Pedro (Chelsea) to Roma almost done deal. (source)

• Barcelona keen on Ndombele (Tottenham). Possible swap deal [Coutinho or Semedo]. (source)

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Deal 99% done as told you days ago Wink

no surprises here...as soon as every big newspaper reported it at the same time, it was crystal clear that deal was pretty much closed. Pjanic is a good player, but getting rid of Arthur is hands down one of Barca's worst deals in years.

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It looks like the Arthur-Pjanic deal is a done deal however I do not understand why Barcelona has to sell any players for financial fair play rules? At the end of the day they are getting someone cheaper and there is a trade between two players and Barcelona is making 10 million euro in profit, they are not spending any, which means they shouldn't have to sell anyone to cover the difference since its a positive for them.

I still think its a huge ripoff by Juventus, Arthur is much better and he loves playing in Barcelona and he was just 23 years old, now they will get Pjanic who is totally not needed in Barcelona and old, why are they even doing this trade? What is Barcelona making from this trade to begin with? Do they really think that Pjanic will bring more to Barcelona than Arthur was bringing? I think this is a very bad move on their behalf.

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Already brought two players, now the Blues decided to release one of the wing attackers who have defended the team for five seasons, Pedro Rodriguez to AS Roma on a free transfer.

Lampard's decision to release the Spaniard does not sound surprising. Because in this 2019/20 season, Pedro has rarely gotten minutes to play because only recorded nine matches in the Premier League.

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Deal 99% done as told you days ago Wink

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https://twitter.com/DiMarzio/status/1276159392409366528

https://twitter.com/romeoagresti/status/1276157737701912578

Barcelona still needs to sell 1 player before 30/06.
Juventus is ok with money for the financial fair play of this year now.

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Quote from: Coyster on June 24, 2020, 04:39:36 PM

Kane for instance is not looking at the Champions league imo, any trophy will do for him, he's a world class striker and he can brings goals along with him to any club, if spurs do not win any trophy next season, be it even the carabao or Fa cup, i can see Harry leaving.

Yes, I understand Kane doesn't just want to win the trophy or target it. He just wants whatever title it is. However, above I only gave an example of what happened to Ibrahimovic. Even if he joins a big club as you mentioned, he may not necessarily be able to get the trophy. Therefore I say not a guarantee of moving the club can bring him the title.

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Transfer rumours:
Barcelona would be interested in a swap deal for Ndombele. They plan to sent Coutinho to Spurs?
Liverpool have emerged as favourites to sign Thiago Alcantara for about £43m.
Napoli l defender Kalidou Koulibaly, expects to join Manchester City this summer.
Source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/53171533

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Quote from: masulum on June 24, 2020, 02:15:46 AM

I am also surprised by what happened to the Spurs, the players of Spurs are better than Leicester, but in why they are can not do much to win the trophy. IMO, even Kane moved to other clubs, it will not guarantee he can bring a trophy for his clubs, see what happens with Ibrahimovic, even he can win in Local league, he can't bring Champions League title when he on that clubs. Grin

Kane for instance is not looking at the Champions league imo, any trophy will do for him, he's a world class striker and he can brings goals along with him to any club, if spurs do not win any trophy next season, be it even the carabao or Fa cup, i can see Harry leaving.

There are definitely teams that guarantees a player trophies, there's Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester City and some others, if Kane goes to any of this teams, he's sure going to lift a trophy or two, in let's say a maximum of two seasons. Mourinho can and has won trophies everywhere he coached in, so Kane and spurs may likely be putting something into their trophy cabinet next season.

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It seems that Perisic isn't staying in Bayern after all.
The loan lasts only 7 days, so Inter and Bayern are currently negotiating to extend the loan until the Champions League in August.
Bayern don't want to pay the large salary that Perisic currently has and therefore don't
wants to buy the contract from Inter.
Inter don't want Perisic and his future is very uncertain.
Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/bild-traju-pregovori-oko-perisica-bayern-nudi-opciju-koja-odgovara-samo-njemu/2192860.aspx

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Quote from: Harlot on June 23, 2020, 10:41:52 AM

With 100 million pounds they can basically buy 2 good stars in top 5 leagues which will help them more compared to a wonderkid.

Yes indeed to look for players with quality that is not much different, can certainly get a cheaper player. It's just that sometimes the character of the player who matches the coach is the reason why the player was bought at a fantastic price other than by the big name of the player.

Quote from: examplens on June 23, 2020, 02:59:05 PM

IDK, here is something happened on Twitter and Jadon Sancho. He liked very interesting tweet about his status in BVB and MU

It looks like this player wants to join Manchester United or maybe he makes a speculative for himself to boost his value Grin

Quote from: AakZaki on June 23, 2020, 06:22:21 PM

In March this year, Kane briefly heated up the situation by saying he would leave if indeed the Spurs could not meet their targets. Despite having received such a warning, Mourinho remains optimistic that Spurs can meet the player's target.

I am also surprised by what happened to the Spurs, the players of Spurs are better than Leicester, but in why they are can not do much to win the trophy. IMO, even Kane moved to other clubs, it will not guarantee he can bring a trophy for his clubs, see what happens with Ibrahimovic, even he can win in Local league, he can't bring Champions League title when he on that clubs. Grin

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I think it is very obvious to see what the deal is alot about between barcelona and juventus. Barcelona has interest in Pjanic, and with Juventus not willing to lose him to nothing decided to get a very good player in Arthur.

So this is the deal, Barcelona gets an experienced, elite midfield maestro in pjanic, while juventus gets a hungry talented footballer in Arthur. To be realistic, chances are of arthur and juventus getting the best from the deal.

I agree with your opinion, Barcelona get Pjanic and Juventus get Arthur this is the best deal. And I am optimistic will soon be realized pjanic
and arthur transfers. Both teams should be happy with this decision, even though many consider it Pjanic prices are too expensive with its
age that is not young anymore. But in my opinion pjanic is worth the expensive price because of addition good performance, pjanic can also
play in many positions. We will see in the next few weeks whether this deal will happen or not.

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In March this year, Kane briefly heated up the situation by saying he would leave if indeed the Spurs could not meet their targets. Despite having received such a warning, Mourinho remains optimistic that Spurs can meet the player's target.

During playing at Spurs, Harry Kane did not win a prestigious title at all. By far the most highlighted achievement was his success in bringing Spurs to the 2018-2019 Champions League final. The difficulty in winning the trophy was allegedly the reason for going to another club.

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Quote from: FanEagle on June 23, 2020, 01:32:04 PM

You might think that Liverpool has amazing center backs but I would rahter have one more super star defender than have gomez+matip+lovren all three, if this was NBA I would offer a team three of them together for one good superstar. Look at VVD for example that dude is a super star defender and miles ahead of rest of the defense if you ask me, and look at Robertson and look at Alexander-Arnold, those are some amazing backs as well.

I am not saying any of those three defenders has to change, they are all great, but if they are looking for someone even better I wouldn't blame them because that looks like the only place in starting eleven that could change. However I do not think Koulibaly is the guy for that, I am talking about levels of Varane to change that place up and have a bigger impact, Koulibaly is not that better than the three they have.

Gomez and Lovren are no where near the standard of Van Dijk. Lovren especially has been lacking at the back for majority of the matches he played. I wouldn't blame Gomez much. He was really solid at the back before his injury. Since he returned, He has been a shadow of his former self. Talking about Koulibaly, I'm not even sure the deal will pull through. Napoli's asking price is on the high side. Also, I think Klopp should consider getting a reliable second choice keeper. The likes of Adrian leaves much to be desired when they're called upon to fill in big boots.

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Source: https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1275446462198013953

Both teams will be happy. Barca for the money.
Juventus for selling 30yo Pjanic at 70m.

Let's see if it will happen.

This is a hell of a money.
I don't think that Arthur is worth and Pjanic 70m (!)
They are just exchanging players for other reasons maybe that we cannot see and they are below the table.
I haven't seen any other player getting such a huge transfer when he has reached 30 yo.

I think it is very obvious to see what the deal is alot about between barcelona and juventus. Barcelona has interest in Pjanic, and with Juventus not willing to lose him to nothing decided to get a very good player in Arthur.

So this is the deal, Barcelona gets an experienced, elite midfield maestro in pjanic, while juventus gets a hungry talented footballer in Arthur. To be realistic, chances are of arthur and juventus getting the best from the deal.

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on June 23, 2020, 04:33:33 PM

Not sure, Arthur-Pjanic is an economical operation nothing more.

According to media.

Juventus need 40m for financial fair play before 30/06/2020
Barca need 70m for financial fair play before 30/06/2020

(Barca will need to sell 1 more player before 30/06)

I think it will not be fair if clubs need to harmonized financial income/outcome to be eligible for FFP. COVID crisis has seriously undermined revenues, will clubs be forced to sell players to cover that shortfall? Some of the big clubs have the capacity to exist even if they have lower income due to Corona pandemic.

If I remember correctly, didn't the LA League announce that Barca, Real Madrid and Atletico M. will have a ban on spending money on the transfer. I think only a 1/4 of the budget from sold players. League and government help them with covering some of the percent players salaries, so they do not want to tolerate excessive spending of money. or has given up on it?

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Quote from: Naida_BR on June 23, 2020, 11:42:10 AM

This is a hell of a money.

Ofcourse not, they are both over evaluating players so they can sign a bigger "+" for the financial fair play.
A new rumor from different sources here in Italy.

Sarri if he will not win the league he will leave.

Quote from: examplens on June 23, 2020, 02:59:05 PM

It seems Juventus to have given up on Pogba?
I haven't seen speculation in a long time about Pogba's move to Juventus ^{or Real Madrid}

Not sure, Arthur-Pjanic is an economical operation nothing more.

According to media.

Juventus need 40m for financial fair play before 30/06/2020
Barca need 70m for financial fair play before 30/06/2020

(Barca will need to sell 1 more player before 30/06)

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Quote from: coinlocket$ on June 23, 2020, 10:38:26 AM

http://Source: https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1275446462198013953

Both teams will be happy. Barca for the money.
Juventus for selling 30yo Pjanic at 70m.

Let's see if it will happen.

It seems Juventus to have given up on Pogba?
I haven't seen speculation in a long time about Pogba's move to Juventus ^{or Real Madrid}

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as i wrote in this post yesterday, the transfer of Thomas Meunier from psg to bvb has now been officially completed
and Jude Bellingham from birmingham city is the next english talent, who will most likely also change to dortmund

Liverpool is trying to buy one of the Dortmund players, Jordan Sancho, with the arrival of new players the club might consider an incoming offer for Sancho. If Liverpool wants him, they must willing to pay Sancho worth £100m, so the question is whether this player is really needed by Liverpool? Because they have some players that can fill Sancho positions already.

A lot of teams including Manchester United, Liverpool, as well as Real Madrid whom are setting their eyes on Jadon Sancho are saying that Borussia is overvaluing the wonderkid that's why you'll only see news about them monitoring the situation and waiting for that asking price to drop, basically no team thinks that 100 million pounds is worth it for Jadon Sancho and I think about it similarly. With 100 million pounds they can basically buy 2 good stars in top 5 leagues which will help them more compared to a wonderkid.

IDK, here is something happened on Twitter and Jadon Sancho. He liked very interesting tweet about his status in BVB and MU

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You might think that Liverpool has amazing center backs but I would rahter have one more super star defender than have gomez+matip+lovren all three, if this was NBA I would offer a team three of them together for one good superstar. Look at VVD for example that dude is a super star defender and miles ahead of rest of the defense if you ask me, and look at Robertson and look at Alexander-Arnold, those are some amazing backs as well.

I am not saying any of those three defenders has to change, they are all great, but if they are looking for someone even better I wouldn't blame them because that looks like the only place in starting eleven that could change. However I do not think Koulibaly is the guy for that, I am talking about levels of Varane to change that place up and have a bigger impact, Koulibaly is not that better than the three they have.

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