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Topic: Forget about exchanger search! Use BestChange! - page 19. (Read 13341 times)

legendary
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Buy/Sell crypto at BestChange

In line with this, I am interested to know if the BestChange company subscribes to the idea that there are clean and dirty Bitcoins. I mean, yes, there are probably a lot of crimes in which Bitcoins are involved as there are countless others which involve fiat, but do you think that Bitcoins involved in these crimes are tainted and are therefore dirty and shouldn't be accepted by different Bitcoin platforms?

This is not so much our moral position, but the forced adherence to generally accepted norms. Regardless of our or anyone else's opinion, AML purity for cryptocurrency transactions has become as important a property as it is for fiat currencies. Most crypto transactions end up in centralized custodial services that adhere to standard rules for the entire global market, in particular, the fifth AML directive of the European Union (5AMLD). Therefore, in a sense, the widespread introduction of AML made BTC an analogue of NFT of the ERC-1155 standard Smiley
legendary
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Crypto Swap Exchange
In line with this, I am interested to know if the BestChange company subscribes to the idea that there are clean and dirty Bitcoins. I mean, yes, there are probably a lot of crimes in which Bitcoins are involved as there are countless others which involve fiat, but do you think that Bitcoins involved in these crimes are tainted and are therefore dirty and shouldn't be accepted by different Bitcoin platforms?

They BestChange monitoring around 238 different exchangers. I believe that each of them makes a lot of changes on a daily basis and monitoring dirty BTCs would be a very complicated job here. I'm not sure there's any automated possibility for that.
legendary
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Don’t you think exchangers that do not follow AML should be excluded from your site? Or at least marked as untrustworthy.
Today netex24 exchanger sent me tainted btc. And obviously service which i wanted to top up blocked my account.
I checked transaction via AML bot:
 
Risk Score: 50% Medium risk transaction
Medium risk
Exchange ML Risk Veryhigh - 100%


@rokuen
Thank you for the signal, we will certainly investigate the matter to find out all the details and if necessary, will take measures to prevent this in the future. The exchanger you named is one of the largest on over-the-counter and such appeals are the matter of exception.

In any case, your situation requires our involvement. We will certainly get in touch with the service representatives to find out the technical details of your transaction and offer them to change the counterparty, if necessary, if they use some compromised custodial service to store bitcoin.

Please send us the transaction address and, if possible, the order number in this service, so that we could check the information in blockchain and request the details from netex24.

In line with this, I am interested to know if the BestChange company subscribes to the idea that there are clean and dirty Bitcoins. I mean, yes, there are probably a lot of crimes in which Bitcoins are involved as there are countless others which involve fiat, but do you think that Bitcoins involved in these crimes are tainted and are therefore dirty and shouldn't be accepted by different Bitcoin platforms?
legendary
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Buy/Sell crypto at BestChange


Are you currently using only betchange.com and .ru domains, or you have some others as alternative, I think I saw .net is also available.
My suggestion is to add official websites in first post of this ANN topic.

@dkbit98

Done it, thanks!

@Huseries
Both Best.Change and Best_Change belong to us. Thanks!

Don’t you think exchangers that do not follow AML should be excluded from your site? Or at least marked as untrustworthy.
Today netex24 exchanger sent me tainted btc. And obviously service which i wanted to top up blocked my account.
I checked transaction via AML bot:
 
Risk Score: 50% Medium risk transaction
Medium risk
Exchange ML Risk Veryhigh - 100%


@rokuen
Thank you for the signal, we will certainly investigate the matter to find out all the details and if necessary, will take measures to prevent this in the future. The exchanger you named is one of the largest on over-the-counter and such appeals are the matter of exception.

In any case, your situation requires our involvement. We will certainly get in touch with the service representatives to find out the technical details of your transaction and offer them to change the counterparty, if necessary, if they use some compromised custodial service to store bitcoin.

Please send us the transaction address and, if possible, the order number in this service, so that we could check the information in blockchain and request the details from netex24.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
tainted btc
What's that? Are you saying Bitcoin isn't fungible?
I mean they sent dirty btc which involved in money laundering.
What I meant is: there is no "dirty" Bitcoin. A Bitcoin is a Bitcoin. You shouldn't let anyone tell you some Bitcoins have lower value than other Bitcoins.
jr. member
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LOL. Dude, it's 2022 when companies are paying a lot of attention to the origin of funds. There are organizations such as CipherTrace, Crypto Defenders Alliance and so on to prevent illicit activities. And obviously I don’t want to be involved in money laundering.
So you are actively using bunch of gambling websites and unknown exchanges and you are expecting to be fully compliant with regulators  Roll Eyes
You can do whatever you want with your coins or money, but you are publicly already doing ''illicit activities'' so I don't know what exactly you are expecting.
I told you how you can always play around those stupid rules, but you can also just use Coinbase or Binance that are best known for kissing regulator asses.

Nice catch Sherlock, but this thread is about BestChange and I don't think it's normal that some exchangers usings clients for money laundering.

Funny thing that netex24 exchange has rules about KYT (know your transaction) https://netex24.net/#/en/kyt  they didn't even bother to translate it into English. In short they may suspend any exchange or even withhold funds if they can’t trace origin. But they ok with sending dirty crypto to their users  Grin
legendary
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LOL. Dude, it's 2022 when companies are paying a lot of attention to the origin of funds. There are organizations such as CipherTrace, Crypto Defenders Alliance and so on to prevent illicit activities. And obviously I don’t want to be involved in money laundering.
So you are actively using bunch of gambling websites and unknown exchanges and you are expecting to be fully compliant with regulators  Roll Eyes
You can do whatever you want with your coins or money, but you are publicly already doing ''illicit activities'' so I don't know what exactly you are expecting.
I told you how you can always play around those stupid rules, but you can also just use Coinbase or Binance that are best known for kissing regulator asses.
jr. member
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I checked transaction via AML bot
This AML bot and stuff like that are not very smart, and you can try checking main Binance exchange hot wallet and see result you will get... probably it will show very similar ''risk''.
You can't even verify what this bot is doing and I think it's crazy trusting it, and it's even more crazy paying bunch of money for using that.

LOL. Dude, it's 2022 when companies are paying a lot of attention to the origin of funds. There are organizations such as CipherTrace, Crypto Defenders Alliance and so on to prevent illicit activities. And obviously I don’t want to be involved in money laundering.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 7064
I checked transaction via AML bot
This AML bot and stuff like that are not very smart, and you can try checking main Binance exchange hot wallet and see result you will get... probably it will show very similar ''risk''.
You can't even verify what this bot is doing and I think it's crazy trusting it, and it's even more crazy paying bunch of money for using that.

I can only imagine what will happen if I deposit such coins directly to my binance/other CEX. I assume that I would have to provide a lot of information to prove that I was not involved in money laundering. And even then there is no guarantee that I will see my money back.
BestChange is not responsible for checking this for you, and Binance already tainted themselves with previous transaction and have connection with money laundering.
You can always mix those coins you got in some mixer, or swap them use decentralized exchanges that don't have any kyc verification, atomic swaps or p2p trading.

The solution is simple: don't use services that tell you your Bitcoin is different than another Bitcoin.
Does this mean we should stop using all government services?  Cheesy
copper member
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฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
Another suspiciously fraudulent exchanger is claiming to be partners with Best Change by using their logo

eraxchanges.com



I would like to confirm is you are collaborating with them or in the process of collaborating with them. Otherwise, I think they are being deceptive
jr. member
Activity: 54
Merit: 4
tainted btc
What's that? Are you saying Bitcoin isn't fungible?
I mean they sent dirty btc which involved in money laundering.
I can only imagine what will happen if I deposit such coins directly to my binance/other CEX. I assume that I would have to provide a lot of information to prove that I was not involved in money laundering. And even then there is no guarantee that I will see my money back.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
tainted btc
What's that? Are you saying Bitcoin isn't fungible?

service which i wanted to top up blocked my account.
The solution is simple: don't use services that tell you your Bitcoin is different than another Bitcoin.
jr. member
Activity: 54
Merit: 4
Don’t you think exchangers that do not follow AML should be excluded from your site? Or at least marked as untrustworthy.
Today netex24 exchanger sent me tainted btc. And obviously service which i wanted to top up blocked my account.
I checked transaction via AML bot:
 
Risk Score: 50% Medium risk transaction
Medium risk
Exchange ML Risk Veryhigh - 100%
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Because of my Bitcoin Fork claiming topic, I'm sometimes looking for ways to exchange the Forks that have value. Unfortunately, most of them aren't listed on BestChange. And I always assumed the "List" button on BestChange would show a complete list. It turns out it's incomplete: today I noticed one of the exchangers on BestChange actually supports all 5 Forks that are worth something! It's always tricky to trust an exchanger, so I appreciate the feedback system on BestChange for this.

My suggestion for you: can you add a full list of all coins available on all exchangers, even if a certain coin is only available on one exchange? I would very much appreciate that!
copper member
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฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
ANN created by best.change not Best_Change, Best.Change Last Active: February 20, 2021, 03:52:04 PM
Perhaps if they asked one of the admins to restore the account (if they lost access to it) or edit the post, it would be better.

tasted it on tor and it works
No biggie... I am more than certain they have access to the account. It's just not actively engaging in discussion. Last time that account woke up, it was to edit something in the OP, and then it went back to sleep.

I believe they could still do the same.
legendary
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My suggestion is to add official websites in first post of this ANN topic.
ANN created by best.change not Best_Change, Best.Change Last Active: February 20, 2021, 03:52:04 PM
Perhaps if they asked one of the admins to restore the account (if they lost access to it) or edit the post, it would be better.

tasted it on tor and it works
legendary
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Merit: 7064
At the moment, we have already reconfigured the security system and the site should be accessible again from public VPN services and TOR exit gateways without any restrictions.
I tested how evrything works in Tor browser and I have to say that it's opening pages very fast.
Are you currently using only betchange.com and .ru domains, or you have some others as alternative, I think I saw .net is also available.
My suggestion is to add official websites in first post of this ANN topic.
legendary
Activity: 3290
Merit: 16489
Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Thank you everyone for informing us about all cases with accessing the website. At the moment, we have already reconfigured the security system and the site should be accessible again from public VPN services and TOR exit gateways without any restrictions.
I can confirm it works again on Tor. When loading, it shortly showed a page about a loading captcha, but it disappeared on it's own and the site loaded. I've never seen that before on Tor!
legendary
Activity: 1307
Merit: 2181
Buy/Sell crypto at BestChange
@LoyceV, @dkbit98, @examplens

Thank you everyone for informing us about all cases with accessing the website. At the moment, we have already reconfigured the security system and the site should be accessible again from public VPN services and TOR exit gateways without any restrictions.
Thank you for staying with us. If you will have any problems with access, please contact [email protected], our moderators will check possible reasons and solutions.

@Darker45
The icons appear when you select an exchange direction.
legendary
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Merit: 1860
💳 What is card verification, and what is it for?

BestChange monitor tries to warn users about whether this or that exchanger requires bank card verification. This requirement is not frequent, but still, pay attention to it if this detail is important for you. It's easy to notice — a round green mark with a schematic card next to the exchanger's name.

Is this still visible until now? And also the rest of the small round green icons next to the exchange's name?

Before it was like this, right? There were small icons next to the exchange's name and if you hover on each one of them, a message would be displayed indicating what it means.



But now it looks like this already. The small green icons are gone.



Or am I missing something here? Am I right that this is where one should know whether the exchange requires bank card verification or not?
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