Topic: FortuneJack Casino Refuses to Pay 20 BTC Won From Jackpot! - page 8. (Read 2893 times)

Which is why I have been so adamant and relentless thus far in my attempt to request they refund my jackpot.

There is also the fact that verusfides had a good plinko seed. Had he have lost all of his money, he may have decided to redeposit and still end up playing plinko, winning the jackpot. It's not uncommon for gamblers to keep adding more money when they lose.

In my opinion, he should be paid out for the plinko jackpot as it was a legitimate win; there was no bug on plinko. All other losses should be deducted from the plinko win amount. Perhaps all of his Adrenaline bets could be fixed to show the correct winning/losing amount, and have his net loss/profit added to his plinko win amount.

if they knew that the game had an error and kept it open then its all their fault and they have to pay.

See this is another problem I'm having with the way he's telling the story to people. The story he told me had me convinced they knew of this situation hours before hand and that they were well aware of the game causing this problem.

I was told no matter what they couldn't do anything more for me regarding the situation at the time. I kept pushing which is why we're here now also it's because the original post was started on their thread page and I was suggested by another user to come here and I sought this page as a way of expanding my case and get more awareness from other users and not just from the users of the FortuneJack web page.

Original post can be found here starts at I believe page 305 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.6160

Timezone also plays a role. They seem to be mostly around during the 8 to 5 workday (Curacao time).

Apparently he gambled away his bug bounty. Unless something else was meant with the 'lost' statement by FJ.

Good question. Although they seem to have some sort of bug bounty, I wouldn't award anything to an abuser.

Apparently it bugged out at some point which led to 70 consecutive wins.

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You'd get stripped away from all winnings and get kicked out. It would be similar to how they handle people that attempt cheating in 'traditional' ways.

So was this game Adrenaline possible to lose at? Or could you only win. Surely there are safeguards that would trigger and alert somebody that there is somethin irregular happening in a game.

I got to that conclusion as well and that would fall under their negligence would it not?

 I have not gone into much details of your problem, i don't know if you got scammed or trying to scam but I skimmed real fast though the comments and here is a thing you should know

- You still reserve the right to file a lawsuit even after accepting compensation as long as you have not signed a legal agreement that forbids you from suing them for the exact same case , if you signed on something like that, then it's game over, if not ! then you can still demand your 20btc + compensation.

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depending on the proof / judge and what law-zone the website is obligated to follow your chances of winning the case can vary from guaranteed to nothing.
20BTC is a lot of money, call a lawyer and seek advice, but keep in mind if you are attempting to b.s and they can prove anything against you, you can be in deep shit too.

however there are two things i find "funny" from both of you

This goes to you .

1- why did you wait all this long to post on scam accusation, and if you were 100% sure you are right, why did you accept a compensation of 0.2btc only?

This goes to  FortuneJack

2- if you were so sure this player was abusing a bug on your system, why did you have to compensate him + give him his deposit back?

I'm not a gambler and never used FortuneJack, but that sounds like something a casino would do--especially a crypto one.

My question is whether OP was gambling with funds he obtained via the bug when he hit the jackpot, and whether that's acceptable or not.  I honestly don't have a hard and fast opinion on that, but it would seem to be that if this was the case (that he didn't legitimately win the money he used to win the jackpot), FJ is in the right.  And that's what their argument is, too. 

What would happen if you were in a real casino and knew a slot machine was broken in such a way that the casino no longer had the edge, and the casino didn't happen to know that.  You use the broken machine to win some money that you later bet on the blackjack table--and you win big there.  Should the casino honor any of your bets?  I really don't know the rules, but it seems sketchy on the gambler's part in that case, because he knows he's playing a broken machine.  Sure you could say, "Well, that's not my problem, it's the casino's" but that doesn't sound right to me.

With what was presented here, I think it's at best way too early to start calling FJ sig campaigners as scam promoters, especially when there are long-standing grudges obviously coming out and the typical mudslinging as a result.  If OP broke FJ's rules, he shouldn't keep the money.  If FJ doesn't have any rules covering such a situation, they should pay out.  I'm just going to see how this goes down.

Possibly correct. We prob wouldn't be discussing this had there not been a large jackpot won.

Either incompetence or because they thought he would lose eventually and they wanted to keep his money

My whole problem would be the fact he was allowed to play for apparently 13 hours. If FJ was being messaged by other players about this bug, why weren't all funds from everyone playing this game frozen? Why was the player allowed to keep playing? What times frames are we looking at between the bug starting, players reporting the bug, user making x number of WD attempts?

Jesus Christ finally someone that thinks with some logic.

If the OP would have been issued the bug bounty from his encounter from the new game, he could have used that money to play the 2nd game and win the jackpot.

I don’t see any reason why the new game being buggy would affect the OPs ability to win the jackpot.

I am not surprised to see certain people wearing a FJ signature defending FJ, even though they have taken an opposite stance in similar situations in the past.

sigh I hate the fact that I have to repost this story every God damn time one of these comes along.

Hopefully this clears it for you and the next 5 clones exactly like you assuming exactly the same thing.

Hello, someone on BTCointalk said that I should inquire to you about a problem I have recently had with FJ if you could please take a look.

Hello FortuneJack community my username is < username removed > on the website known popularly as fortunejack.com. I am coming to you today as a recent player on it's website who has not been paid my earnings and have been robbed because of a bug which occured on one of there games. Below is a full break down of the events that have occurred.

(TL;DR below)

Yesterday, I had made a small deposit to FortuneJack. They had recently sent me a notifcation asking to try a new game and I was intrigued. During the game I had accrued some amount of funds roughly amounting 2 BTC. I, in my belief was that I had acquired these winnings fairly without any fraudulent or illegal play. Later I try to make a small withdrawal of roughly a quarter of my winnings around .45 BTC, which then said was undergoing review. I thought everything was fine up till this point.

This is where it gets interesting. As the night progresses, I am still on the site gambling for nearly 8 hours, eventually heading over to there plinko page. I keep playing and playing and then the jackpot hit. You should understand I was literally speechless when this happened. It was a payout of 20 BTC.

About 15 minutes later however, all the funds in my account were subtracted and later they had claimed that my winnings on Adrenaline were obtained due to a bug, and that they therefore would have to penalize ALL the money I acquired. Clearly this is unjustifiable. Even if the winnings I won in Adrenaline were from a bug. I had been on the casino website for nearly 8 hours. I am sure I have wagered over 10000x my initial deposit. Even if the casino were to claim that I won a small amount from a bug, the plinko bet was won fair and square. They even know this because they have nothing to say about it, but simply because of the Adrenaline game which THEY advertised me to play, they are refusing my winnings. I am coming to the community here today to see what they have to say about this. I am being robbed for playing a game they had suggested to me?

TL;DR Won a total of 22 BTC -20 from Plinko jackpot 1000x and 2 from Adrenaline. Fortunejack siezed all earnings claiming a bug from the game Adrenaline which was advertised by them

Admit that you don't deserve the 20 BTC. As far as I can understand the issue, you:

-saw a new game introduced
-then saw a bug bounty for it
-then played the game
-then you notice that you're repeatedly winning it
-then instead of reporting the bug, you continued to play the game repeatedly for a number of hours
-then you think that you deserve the win

LOL

Lol dang, think there's people out to get you Lauda. Is this the conspiracy I've been warned about?!

Says the biggest liar & scammer on the forum

Nothing new to see here. Another Fortune Jack scam and their paid shills defending them.

Also is that advice you're giving to David? Because I think he really needed to hear that from someone I just didn't want to be the one to say it.