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I'm not a FJ affiliate

While wearing an FJ signature.  You can't make this stuff up folks.  Lauda really is this delusional.  

jr. member
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Also btw, I'm pretty sure he's asking the people with signatures to respond to the forums. I haven't asked anyone to defend or represent me.
FJ has not asked me to do anything, ever IIRC. I think I found it either randomly looking at the section or by looking through the post history of the troll Butterscotch Cartman; can't remember anymore.

The people that are defending me are just random passerbys who obviously see the poor state in which you guys are assuming your position so I have a majority favor of unbiased people who don't agree with FortuneJack, where as FortuneJack has... it's affiliates. Really looking good there boys. Keep it up.
I'm not a FJ affiliate and I would strongly advise you against making false accusations of collusion as that will: 1) Kill your case. 2) Kill your reputation. Nobody likes liars.
Whoa poncho relax I didn't say you, but makes you wonder what made you jump to that conclusion on your own when I never brought up any names. *thinking*
jr. member
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If you take a compensation (in this case a bug bounty), you are legally entitled to nothing.
This is my current opinion on bugs and compensations and we can leave it at that.
Of course it is...  Considering it is the exact opposite response you would and have had if/when you weren't wearing their signature.  Funny how your ethics depend on whether or not you're paid by the offender.  Your word is meaningless and your opinions clouded by greed.  This is yet another example of why you belong nowhere near any sort of position of trust.
You really need to stop spreading unecessary lies and derailing the thread. Thanks.

You really need to stop being tied to scams.  Literally everything you touch turns into a scam.  ICOs you escrow, signatures you wear, somehow people always end up having their money stolen, and it always seems to not be your fault, then it happens again.  
Lol, shots fired.
legendary
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Also btw, I'm pretty sure he's asking the people with signatures to respond to the forums. I haven't asked anyone to defend or represent me.
FJ has not asked me to do anything, ever IIRC. I think I found it either randomly looking at the section or by looking through the post history of the troll Butterscotch Cartman; can't remember anymore.

The people that are defending me are just random passerbys who obviously see the poor state in which you guys are assuming your position so I have a majority favor of unbiased people who don't agree with FortuneJack, where as FortuneJack has... it's affiliates. Really looking good there boys. Keep it up.
I'm not a FJ affiliate and I would strongly advise you against making false accusations of collusion as that will: 1) Kill your case. 2) Kill your reputation. This wouldn't be the first time that it backfired on someone; nobody likes liars/conspiracy loons.
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Private information is who I choose to disclose the information to. So if it is a discord group I disclose that I am ok with all the members seeing my information I amd allowing them to view my profile and my username. See the point I'm trying to make whether it's a picture of my face from 20 feet away or from 5 feet away. He's not allowed to disclose anything without asking first or taking time to crop out the information to prevent other users from seeing.
I'm with Lauda on this one, in an open case like this one you cannot choose what information you just want to show as in any legal court that can be considered as withholding information/evidence. After all you are not asking any permission from FJ when you are posting your screenshots by yourself, why can't they do it too? I know its hard to look at but with your convo with David it seems to look like you really appreciated that they refunded your deposit back, what it looks to me now is you are unsatisfied with what you got (who knows what happened in your mind) and you are trying to extort the money out from FJ.
jr. member
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Also btw, I'm pretty sure he's asking the people with signatures to respond to the forums. I haven't asked anyone to defend or represent me. The people that are defending me are just random passerbys who obviously see the poor state in which you guys are assuming your position so I have a majority favor of unbiased people who don't agree with FortuneJack, where as FortuneJack has... it's affiliates. Really looking good there boys. Keep it up.
I swear we're gonna see a wave of users with no signatures just because I posted this arguing against me. Well at least we can't say I didn't see that coming. Good luck with the endeavors and good luck defending anything David posted because he seemingly just chose to ignore the other 10 hours I played on the website and just tried to wing it and reach the finish with his shoes untied.

Can't see any credibility when you compare his evidence to mine. Yet in fact few hours from not guaranteed he'll jump right back on here and say something close to his previous statement because you guys like to ride that bug pony over and over again. Just can't seem to point out anything different. Where I pointed out everything that was wrong with this case from it's inception. Regarding rules, bugged money, my money, removal of my money, and the companies gross negligence. So bring the troopers out. I'm ready to hear every half-assed speech coming out of FortuneJack and it's investors/sig holders.
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If you take a compensation (in this case a bug bounty), you are legally entitled to nothing.
This is my current opinion on bugs and compensations and we can leave it at that.
Of course it is...  Considering it is the exact opposite response you would and have had if/when you weren't wearing their signature.  Funny how your ethics depend on whether or not you're paid by the offender.  Your word is meaningless and your opinions clouded by greed.  This is yet another example of why you belong nowhere near any sort of position of trust.
You really need to stop spreading unecessary lies and derailing the thread. Thanks.

You really need to stop being tied to scams.  Literally everything you touch turns into a scam.  ICOs you escrow, signatures you wear, somehow people always end up having their money stolen, and it always seems to not be your fault, then it happens again.  
jr. member
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Also btw, I'm pretty sure he's asking the people with signatures to respond to the forums. I haven't asked anyone to defend or represent me. The people that are defending me are just random passerbys who obviously see the poor state in which you guys are assuming your position so I have a majority favor of unbiased people who don't agree with FortuneJack, where as FortuneJack has... it's affiliates. Really looking good there boys. Keep it up.
legendary
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Terminated.
If you take a compensation (in this case a bug bounty), you are legally entitled to nothing.
This is my current opinion on bugs and compensations and we can leave it at that.
Of course it is...  Considering it is the exact opposite response you would and have had if/when you weren't wearing their signature.  Funny how your ethics depend on whether or not you're paid by the offender.  Your word is meaningless and your opinions clouded by greed.  This is yet another example of why you belong nowhere near any sort of position of trust.
You really need to stop spreading unecessary lies and derailing the thread. Thanks.

A 'might-be-right-might-be-wrong' case on this forum (depending on who sees the case and how) won't bring you back any money.
Yeah. That'd be true if I thought I might be wrong or might right, but I'm 100% sure I'm right and 200% sure they're wrong.
Here I was referring to how the forum members will react to this thread, some might side with you others might not. Recent legal precedence does not (as I've mentioned), but that doesn't necessarily mean you'd lose if you actually sued them.
jr. member
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Not really. You can look up similar cases and any lawyer is going to advise you not to take any kind of compensation in any form (gift cards, items, balances, whatever). I think you can find some information in certain subreddits if you don't feel like reading verdicts.
Yet for some reason people still do, but then again they do and they still somehow win. Wonder why that is. Maybe because the legal ramifications in which the problem at hand clearly outweighed the compensation that was received. Idk guess some people look at things many ways and some people look at things like there's no way at all. Just depends how they respond to the lies they just tried to spread about how I procured those winnings.
If you think that you can win, then nobody is preventing you from suing them. A 'might-be-right-might-be-wrong' case on this forum (depending on who sees the case and how) won't bring you back any money.

If you take a compensation (in this case a bug bounty), you are legally entitled to nothing.
This is my current opinion on bugs and compensations and we can leave it at that.
Yeah. That'd be true if I thought I might be wrong or might right, but I'm 100% sure I'm right and 200% sure they're wrong. After all David seemed really flustered when I started mentioning why they wouldn't release a bugged game to be only playable with FJC and not real deposits. Started declaring war on me and here we are now. Guys tryna find proof of my wrong doing when his own support can't even give him the right information. Yet he has his FortuneJackals come once in awhile to try and fan the flames, yet when I tell them they either have to be stupid or physically blind to be unable to see the evidence in case that I have shown in response to his evidence. They just dissipate and come back once more when they're summoned like zombies being mind controlled by one slightly smarter zombie.
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If you take a compensation (in this case a bug bounty), you are legally entitled to nothing.
This is my current opinion on bugs and compensations and we can leave it at that.

Of course it is...  Considering it is the exact opposite response you would and have had if/when you weren't wearing their signature.  Funny how your ethics depend on whether or not you're paid by the offender.  Your word is meaningless and your opinions clouded by greed.  This is yet another example of why you belong nowhere near any sort of position of trust.
legendary
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Not really. You can look up similar cases and any lawyer is going to advise you not to take any kind of compensation in any form (gift cards, items, balances, whatever). I think you can find some information in certain subreddits if you don't feel like reading verdicts.
Yet for some reason people still do, but then again they do and they still somehow win. Wonder why that is. Maybe because the legal ramifications in which the problem at hand clearly outweighed the compensation that was received. Idk guess some people look at things many ways and some people look at things like there's no way at all. Just depends how they respond to the lies they just tried to spread about how I procured those winnings.
If you think that you can win, then nobody is preventing you from suing them. A 'might-be-right-might-be-wrong' case on this forum (depending on who sees the case and how) won't bring you back any money.

If you take a compensation (in this case a bug bounty), you are legally entitled to nothing.
This is my current opinion on bugs and compensations and we can leave it at that.
jr. member
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Last time a casino didn't make a payout for reasons that were beyond their control, they were labeled as scammers and everyone wearing a signature advertisement for them was harassed until they removed the signature.

Now that Lauda is the one advertising for a company that has fallen victim to their own poor operation and refusing to make payouts, it will be interesting to watch the double standard unfold.

Obviously if the player played by the rules and won, they are due the jackpot.  I'm sure FortuneJack isn't going to find all the people negatively effected by the bug and give them their money back...
Actually I'm asking for the logs of every player that played Adrenaline that night and see how many accounts they had reversed by the end of the night using the bug as an excuse. Don't you guys find it funny that they didn't even need to have the live deposits available for that game. If they did mean to release the game in order for players to find bugs. Wouldn't they have just let players use FJC(freeplay currency on its website) only. Kind makes you wonder was this really just some kind of unknown freak accident or was it really indeed a premeditated incident.
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I reported the photo that was there, but I have the screenshot. He released my Discord SN along with the photo of myself I had in it without my knowledge or my consent. Can't really look at this guy too professionally after that.
You could argue that leaking the connection to this user account and an exact discord username was a mistake. However, the photo thing is nonsense. I literally see your photo right now, as does anyone else who is on at least one discord server as you. That is in no way private information.

Forced upon me. Not given. Only agreed when they made it seem like I had no choice. So again not doing anything illegal.
Doesn't matter if they tell you 100 times that it is only what they can give, once you accept any compensation you lose legal ground for anything.
That'd be true if they didn't forcibly change the amount that was in my account to begin with.
Not really. You can look up similar cases and any lawyer is going to advise you not to take any kind of compensation in any form (gift cards, items, balances, whatever). I think you can find some information in certain subreddits if you don't feel like reading verdicts.
Yet for some reason people still do, but then again they do and they still somehow win. Wonder why that is. Maybe because the legal ramifications in which the problem at hand clearly outweighed the compensation that was received. Idk guess some people look at things many ways and some people look at things like there's no way at all. Just depends how they respond to the lies they just tried to spread about how I procured those winnings.
legendary
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Last time a casino didn't make a payout for reasons that were beyond their control, they were labeled as scammers and everyone wearing a signature advertisement for them was harassed until they removed the signature.
Source?[1] Not all "reasons beyond their control" fall into the same bag.

Now that Lauda is the one advertising for a company that has fallen victim to their own poor operation and refusing to make payouts, it will be interesting to watch the double standard unfold.
This is not double standard, this is how it is usually done nowadays. If you accept something as a compensation, then it is over for you from a legal perspective (a notable case where people were advised not to accept anything was recent Bethesda's shenanigans). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[1] Betcoin maybe? Not even remotely similar.
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Last time a casino didn't make a payout for reasons that were beyond their control, they were labeled as scammers and everyone wearing a signature advertisement for them was harassed until they removed the signature.

Now that Lauda is the one advertising for a company that has fallen victim to their own poor operation and refusing to make payouts, it will be interesting to watch the double standard unfold.

Obviously if the player played by the rules and won, they are due the jackpot.  I'm sure FortuneJack isn't going to find all the people negatively effected by the bug and give them their money back...
legendary
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Terminated.
Private information is who I choose to disclose the information to. So if it is a discord group I disclose that I am ok with all the members seeing my information I amd allowing them to view my profile and my username. See the point I'm trying to make whether it's a picture of my face from 20 feet away or from 5 feet away. He's not allowed to disclose anything without asking first or taking time to crop out the information to prevent other users from seeing.
Yeah, yeah. Go ahead and sue him for "disclosing private information" that anyone can access at any given time. Great arguments you are making here.
What? Who said I'm gonna sue him? People attempt those things? From nearly opposite ends of the world? It is valid enough information to prevent him from being able to partake any further in this case.
No it is not.

Or maybe fire him altogether. Haven't seen lots of companies willing to keep people who can't seem to follow basic privacy acts.
Then complain to FJ administration directly not to the forum's community.
jr. member
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Private information is who I choose to disclose the information to. So if it is a discord group I disclose that I am ok with all the members seeing my information I amd allowing them to view my profile and my username. See the point I'm trying to make whether it's a picture of my face from 20 feet away or from 5 feet away. He's not allowed to disclose anything without asking first or taking time to crop out the information to prevent other users from seeing.
Yeah, yeah. Go ahead and sue him for "disclosing private information" that anyone can access at any given time. Great arguments you are making here.
What? Who said I'm gonna sue him? People attempt those things? From nearly opposite ends of the world? It is valid enough information to prevent him from being able to partake any further in this case. Or maybe fire him altogether. Haven't seen lots of companies willing to keep people who can't seem to follow basic privacy acts.
legendary
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Terminated.
Private information is who I choose to disclose the information to. So if it is a discord group I disclose that I am ok with all the members seeing my information I amd allowing them to view my profile and my username. See the point I'm trying to make whether it's a picture of my face from 20 feet away or from 5 feet away. He's not allowed to disclose anything without asking first or taking time to crop out the information to prevent other users from seeing.
Yeah, yeah. Go ahead and sue him for "disclosing private information" that anyone can access at any given time. Great arguments you are making here.
jr. member
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I reported the photo that was there, but I have the screenshot. He released my Discord SN along with the photo of myself I had in it without my knowledge or my consent. Can't really look at this guy too professionally after that.
You could argue that leaking the connection to this user account and an exact discord username was a mistake. However, the photo thing is nonsense. I literally see your photo right now, as does anyone else who is on at least one discord server as you. That is in no way private information.

Forced upon me. Not given. Only agreed when they made it seem like I had no choice. So again not doing anything illegal.
Doesn't matter if they tell you 100 times that it is only what they can give, once you accept any compensation you lose legal ground for anything.
That'd be true if they didn't forcibly change the amount that was in my account to begin with.
Not really. You can look up similar cases and any lawyer is going to advise you not to take any kind of compensation in any form (gift cards, items, balances, whatever). I think you can find some information in certain subreddits if you don't feel like reading verdicts.

Also let's not jump to conclusions you don't know what Curacao's jurisdiction will say.
They'll probably shrug it off. There's a reason certain types of businesses settle in Curacao.
Private information is who I choose to disclose the information to. So if it is a discord group I disclose that I am ok with all the members seeing my information I amd allowing them to view my profile and my username. See the point I'm trying to make whether it's a picture of my face from 20 feet away or from 5 feet away. He's not allowed to disclose anything without asking first or taking time to crop out the information to prevent other users from seeing.
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