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Quote from: Lucky7btc on February 06, 2019, 06:44:56 PM

If you take a 40X wager bonus then you are insane. I wouldn't dare touch it. There are plenty of casinos with 20X - 30X. What FJ is doing is ripping people off, and some of you just continue to kiss up to them. 40X is roguish

But, I believe people who think x40 is a must on a horrible odd bet are not really well informed about how x40 works. You can play with 1% of your bankroll and keep on betting the smallest wager there is and actually bet on 90% win odds as well and keep doing that on auto forever until it reaches to x40.

The possibility to actually lose all of your money in that scenario is very little and you will most likely get the deposit bonus. You don't need to play x40 at once and get it, you can play anything, there is no restriction on your bets, you just have to wager x40 in total. So, if you deposit 0.5 and the x40 is 20 btc that means you can bet 10 satoshi on 90% for 200 million times, even tough you may lose a lot in there you will most probably not lose too much and will get that bonus after all.

Let say if your strategy work well, how much do you even left for that? To think that someone actually using this to get some profit is pretty useless thing. I do not say that it is not possible to do that, but with the time limit usually there is no way someone could achieve it, unless they are pretty lucky. And with 10 satoshi, how long do you think that it will work? 200mil bets is really long to get though

Sorry no offend on FJ but this is how the things works and it is your own choice to take it or not but a long term player usually do not bite this thing

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Quote from: Ewinsane on February 09, 2019, 11:16:54 AM

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Quote from: sana54210 on February 08, 2019, 09:29:53 AM

Honestly, people seem to forget how a casino is operated. Like, I understand they give you a fair shot at actually making money from gambling and they do give you that chance to profit however normally a casino is just a business that gets your money by allowing you to lose it yourself.

How in the hell any casino would stay alive if they offered a %100 bonus on something like x2 wager or something, everyone would just deposit money and then wager right away on good odds and just leave, what are the odds of a casino not bankrupting if they did something like that ? Zero. Hence, the required x40 is a bliss if you take it, it may not look fair to you but in reality its just marketing purposes and they are not even suppose to give you that free money, this is not a bank, its a casino.

How is it free money when you have to deposit and risk your money in order to get to the bonus? You actually bought the bonus for less than 40X its worth.

You didn't buy the bonus, bonus is not something you purchase. It is free money given to you with requirements, nobody gives out 100% bonus for nothing, you have to wager 40x to get free money. So, you have two options, either get the bonus and wager 40x to get the free money or never get the bonus to begin with. Nobody forces you to take it, it is not like you need to 40x to be able to withdraw your deposited money. No this is another gambling that you take a risk and just like the games where you gamble you just gamble with the deposit and see if you can reach 40x without losing your money. It is a different way of gambling but its still gambling all the same. So, we can consider it "free money" but also we can consider it gambling itself. I don't know if 40x is cool but I think it needs to be high, even if not 40x it should be around that.

Dude there is NOTHING FREE ABOUT ANY BONUS, "IF" I have to deposit my money and loss it to receive it, and then wager it 40X. If it was "FREE" then it would be giving to me without me having to LOSE my deposit. Like I said YOU BOUGHT IT at 40X less than the actual value.

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Quote from: Lucky7btc on February 08, 2019, 12:22:15 PM

Quote from: sana54210 on February 08, 2019, 09:29:53 AM

Honestly, people seem to forget how a casino is operated. Like, I understand they give you a fair shot at actually making money from gambling and they do give you that chance to profit however normally a casino is just a business that gets your money by allowing you to lose it yourself.

How in the hell any casino would stay alive if they offered a %100 bonus on something like x2 wager or something, everyone would just deposit money and then wager right away on good odds and just leave, what are the odds of a casino not bankrupting if they did something like that ? Zero. Hence, the required x40 is a bliss if you take it, it may not look fair to you but in reality its just marketing purposes and they are not even suppose to give you that free money, this is not a bank, its a casino.

How is it free money when you have to deposit and risk your money in order to get to the bonus? You actually bought the bonus for less than 40X its worth.

You didn't buy the bonus, bonus is not something you purchase. It is free money given to you with requirements, nobody gives out 100% bonus for nothing, you have to wager 40x to get free money. So, you have two options, either get the bonus and wager 40x to get the free money or never get the bonus to begin with. Nobody forces you to take it, it is not like you need to 40x to be able to withdraw your deposited money. No this is another gambling that you take a risk and just like the games where you gamble you just gamble with the deposit and see if you can reach 40x without losing your money. It is a different way of gambling but its still gambling all the same. So, we can consider it "free money" but also we can consider it gambling itself. I don't know if 40x is cool but I think it needs to be high, even if not 40x it should be around that.

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Quote from: darewaller on February 09, 2019, 04:19:42 AM

Quote from: Lucky7btc on February 06, 2019, 06:44:56 PM

If you take a 40X wager bonus then you are insane. I wouldn't dare touch it. There are plenty of casinos with 20X - 30X. What FJ is doing is ripping people off, and some of you just continue to kiss up to them. 40X is roguish

But, I believe people who think x40 is a must on a horrible odd bet are not really well informed about how x40 works. You can play with 1% of your bankroll and keep on betting the smallest wager there is and actually bet on 90% win odds as well and keep doing that on auto forever until it reaches to x40.

The possibility to actually lose all of your money in that scenario is very little and you will most likely get the deposit bonus. You don't need to play x40 at once and get it, you can play anything, there is no restriction on your bets, you just have to wager x40 in total. So, if you deposit 0.5 and the x40 is 20 btc that means you can bet 10 satoshi on 90% for 200 million times, even tough you may lose a lot in there you will most probably not lose too much and will get that bonus after all.

Sorry but I'm not here to support Lucky7btc but I just want give you the truth. You are saying about wagering on 90% win chance, means that you are referring to dice game or maybe other similar game while in fact only Slots game are counted 100% towards wagering requirement. I'm not really sure about dice, but as I know wagering on dice is not counted towards wagering requirement. So your scenario wont work to complete the wagering requirement. One more important thing is that "only bets using the bonus money will be counted towards wagering requirement", means that you need to lose your initial deposit first before starting to wager for the requirement.
I know 40x wagering requirement on deposit bonus is a standard rules in this gambling business, as most other sites also has the same rules. So it is players own decision whether to take the bonus or not, as the site is not forcing players to take it. Overall, it is just an offer from the casino. Players may take it or ignore it. Simple as that.

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Quote from: Lucky7btc on February 06, 2019, 06:44:56 PM

If you take a 40X wager bonus then you are insane. I wouldn't dare touch it. There are plenty of casinos with 20X - 30X. What FJ is doing is ripping people off, and some of you just continue to kiss up to them. 40X is roguish

But, I believe people who think x40 is a must on a horrible odd bet are not really well informed about how x40 works. You can play with 1% of your bankroll and keep on betting the smallest wager there is and actually bet on 90% win odds as well and keep doing that on auto forever until it reaches to x40.

The possibility to actually lose all of your money in that scenario is very little and you will most likely get the deposit bonus. You don't need to play x40 at once and get it, you can play anything, there is no restriction on your bets, you just have to wager x40 in total. So, if you deposit 0.5 and the x40 is 20 btc that means you can bet 10 satoshi on 90% for 200 million times, even tough you may lose a lot in there you will most probably not lose too much and will get that bonus after all.

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Quote from: shield132 on February 07, 2019, 05:15:05 PM

As I see there is a talk about bonus deposit and so on. We all know 40x wagering requirement sucks too because makes it's very impossible to get bonus or even keep money you deposited. So guys what about this idea: Give people real bonus when they lose deposited money? For example once they lost deposit, give them 10% bonus of that and let them to decide whether play or withdraw, would be great, it's another task how risky this decision can be which must be discussed mathematically in more details.

It would be great if casinos operate as a charity where they are only supposed to give and never take. It's a business, people (Lucky7btc) just likes to cry since they apparently lost a lot.

I promise you my win and withdrawal percentage is much higher than my loss. I just don't play at this crap place anymore until they stop ripping people off. But you are their main troll so what should one expect?

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Quote from: sana54210 on February 08, 2019, 09:29:53 AM

Honestly, people seem to forget how a casino is operated. Like, I understand they give you a fair shot at actually making money from gambling and they do give you that chance to profit however normally a casino is just a business that gets your money by allowing you to lose it yourself.

How in the hell any casino would stay alive if they offered a %100 bonus on something like x2 wager or something, everyone would just deposit money and then wager right away on good odds and just leave, what are the odds of a casino not bankrupting if they did something like that ? Zero. Hence, the required x40 is a bliss if you take it, it may not look fair to you but in reality its just marketing purposes and they are not even suppose to give you that free money, this is not a bank, its a casino.

How is it free money when you have to deposit and risk your money in order to get to the bonus? You actually bought the bonus for less than 40X its worth.

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Honestly, people seem to forget how a casino is operated. Like, I understand they give you a fair shot at actually making money from gambling and they do give you that chance to profit however normally a casino is just a business that gets your money by allowing you to lose it yourself.

How in the hell any casino would stay alive if they offered a %100 bonus on something like x2 wager or something, everyone would just deposit money and then wager right away on good odds and just leave, what are the odds of a casino not bankrupting if they did something like that ? Zero. Hence, the required x40 is a bliss if you take it, it may not look fair to you but in reality its just marketing purposes and they are not even suppose to give you that free money, this is not a bank, its a casino.

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Quote from: shield132 on February 07, 2019, 05:15:05 PM

As I see there is a talk about bonus deposit and so on. We all know 40x wagering requirement sucks too because makes it's very impossible to get bonus or even keep money you deposited. So guys what about this idea: Give people real bonus when they lose deposited money? For example once they lost deposit, give them 10% bonus of that and let them to decide whether play or withdraw, would be great, it's another task how risky this decision can be which must be discussed mathematically in more details.

It would be great if casinos operate as a charity where they are only supposed to give and never take. It's a business, people (Lucky7btc) just likes to cry since they apparently lost a lot.

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As I see there is a talk about bonus deposit and so on. We all know 40x wagering requirement sucks too because makes it's very impossible to get bonus or even keep money you deposited. So guys what about this idea: Give people real bonus when they lose deposited money? For example once they lost deposit, give them 10% bonus of that and let them to decide whether play or withdraw, would be great, it's another task how risky this decision can be which must be discussed mathematically in more details.

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Quote from: Lucky7btc on February 07, 2019, 08:36:33 AM

You are an idiot too if you are dumb enough to take a 40X bonus. If you can't shop around and find a decent bonus then you need to lose. Who in their right mind will that wager 20 BTC or $70,000?

I only said taking any kind of bonus (even if it has a low wagering requirements) is not a good idea and bonuses are just optional. If someone took their bonus then props to him.

Quote from: Theb on February 07, 2019, 09:36:34 AM

but FJ gives different bonuses not only at x40.

I'm not sure about this but from what i've seen most of the bonuses that they offer have a x40 wagering requirement. However I did participate in one of their promotion, the rules were similar to a bonus deposit with lower requirements but that was a long time ago.

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Quote from: Theb on February 07, 2019, 09:36:34 AM

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Quote from: ralle14 on February 06, 2019, 09:19:53 PM

There's no need to hate on fortunejack's bonus it's not like they're the only bitcoin casino that offers the x40 rollover on deposit bonuses other casinos have the same rollovers too and some of them have more than x40 rollover. Also even if the rollover is reduced by different casinos the chance of losing everything before unlocking the bonus is still high so it's always best to play without one imo.

You are an idiot too if you are dumb enough to take a 40X bonus. If you can't shop around and find a decent bonus then you need to lose. Who in their right mind will that wager 20 BTC or $70,000?

If you look around any gambling site you will know 20 BTC for a high roller is achievable for them as they are usually the ones who likes to takes risk and has the bigger bets compared to regular players in their gambling site. If you have the money as well as being a risk taker surely you will have this wager bonus in no time, sure the wager bonus might not be for all but FJ gives different bonuses not only at x40.

OMG, the insanity doesn't stop. Should have known the FJ cheerleaders will show up. Anyone stupid enough to take a 40X bonus deserves to bust out!

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Quote from: Lucky7btc on February 07, 2019, 08:36:33 AM

Quote from: ralle14 on February 06, 2019, 09:19:53 PM

There's no need to hate on fortunejack's bonus it's not like they're the only bitcoin casino that offers the x40 rollover on deposit bonuses other casinos have the same rollovers too and some of them have more than x40 rollover. Also even if the rollover is reduced by different casinos the chance of losing everything before unlocking the bonus is still high so it's always best to play without one imo.

You are an idiot too if you are dumb enough to take a 40X bonus. If you can't shop around and find a decent bonus then you need to lose. Who in their right mind will that wager 20 BTC or $70,000?

If you look around any gambling site you will know 20 BTC for a high roller is achievable for them as they are usually the ones who likes to takes risk and has the bigger bets compared to regular players in their gambling site. If you have the money as well as being a risk taker surely you will have this wager bonus in no time, sure the wager bonus might not be for all but FJ gives different bonuses not only at x40.

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Quote from: klarki on January 14, 2019, 02:51:19 PM

FortuneJack, why I did not receive a bonus for the first deposit?

Hey, did you speak with supports team?

Hello FortuneJack, thank you for the answer. My problem was solved in full Grin

Oh my God you are so brave to take the deposit bonus with such amount, wish you luck with the bonus because it wont be easy to complete the wagering requirement. Dont forget to bet not higher than the allowed amount as well because your winning might be forfeited. Hope the bonus give you big win and you can fulfil the requirement before you bust it all.

Jesus Christ wagering x40 of 0.5 means wagering 20 bitcoins. That is an insane number, I hope he wins as well, it is really a lot. Even if you play on high win games for a long time with small amount there is a chance of losing once in a while and it would take a lot of time to reach there and if you gamble for a long time the longer you play the higher chance of losing your money.

However, if he manages to hit that x40 that is a lot of free money to take out when the requirement is met, bonuses are like that, its hard to reach there and it requires a lot of wagering however if you hit the requirement and not lose too much than you have yourself a free money. He can consider the free money he is getting like its his and gamble accordingly so even if he loses a bit than when he gets the free bonus he will still be in profit.

Nothing new, typical wagering requirement for bonus. From my experience after multiplying your balance 3-4 times it is hard to continue same way you risked in order to meet wagering and not all bets are considered depending on the game. Btw majority of gambling sites apply limits for preventing double bet strategies like martingale.

If you take a 40X wager bonus then you are insane. I wouldn't dare touch it. There are plenty of casinos with 20X - 30X. What FJ is doing is ripping people off, and some of you just continue to kiss up to them. 40X is roguish

İ don't support high requirements for activating bonus but this is the way gambling sites prevent bonus hunters. I never take first deposit bonuses which requires to multiply it several times and you are forced to pass KYC in case of winning high amounts. FJ is not exception..

It's also a way to insure you don't cashout. Anyone taking 40X bonus deserves to be robbed and that's what FJ has been doing is robbing people. While some of you keep on kissing up to them. I don't care for bitcasino.io But their wagering is 30X

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Quote from: ralle14 on February 06, 2019, 09:19:53 PM

There's no need to hate on fortunejack's bonus it's not like they're the only bitcoin casino that offers the x40 rollover on deposit bonuses other casinos have the same rollovers too and some of them have more than x40 rollover. Also even if the rollover is reduced by different casinos the chance of losing everything before unlocking the bonus is still high so it's always best to play without one imo.

You are an idiot too if you are dumb enough to take a 40X bonus. If you can't shop around and find a decent bonus then you need to lose. Who in their right mind will that wager 20 BTC or $70,000?

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Quote from: Lucky7btc on February 06, 2019, 06:44:56 PM

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Quote from: FortuneJack on January 15, 2019, 02:01:58 AM

Quote from: klarki on January 14, 2019, 02:51:19 PM

FortuneJack, why I did not receive a bonus for the first deposit?

Hey, did you speak with supports team?

Hello FortuneJack, thank you for the answer. My problem was solved in full Grin

Oh my God you are so brave to take the deposit bonus with such amount, wish you luck with the bonus because it wont be easy to complete the wagering requirement. Dont forget to bet not higher than the allowed amount as well because your winning might be forfeited. Hope the bonus give you big win and you can fulfil the requirement before you bust it all.

Jesus Christ wagering x40 of 0.5 means wagering 20 bitcoins. That is an insane number, I hope he wins as well, it is really a lot. Even if you play on high win games for a long time with small amount there is a chance of losing once in a while and it would take a lot of time to reach there and if you gamble for a long time the longer you play the higher chance of losing your money.

However, if he manages to hit that x40 that is a lot of free money to take out when the requirement is met, bonuses are like that, its hard to reach there and it requires a lot of wagering however if you hit the requirement and not lose too much than you have yourself a free money. He can consider the free money he is getting like its his and gamble accordingly so even if he loses a bit than when he gets the free bonus he will still be in profit.

Nothing new, typical wagering requirement for bonus. From my experience after multiplying your balance 3-4 times it is hard to continue same way you risked in order to meet wagering and not all bets are considered depending on the game. Btw majority of gambling sites apply limits for preventing double bet strategies like martingale.

If you take a 40X wager bonus then you are insane. I wouldn't dare touch it. There are plenty of casinos with 20X - 30X. What FJ is doing is ripping people off, and some of you just continue to kiss up to them. 40X is roguish

İ don't support high requirements for activating bonus but this is the way gambling sites prevent bonus hunters. I never take first deposit bonuses which requires to multiply it several times and you are forced to pass KYC in case of winning high amounts. FJ is not exception..

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Quote from: ralle14 on February 06, 2019, 09:19:53 PM

There's no need to hate on fortunejack's bonus it's not like they're the only bitcoin casino that offers the x40 rollover on deposit bonuses other casinos have the same rollovers too and some of them have more than x40 rollover. Also even if the rollover is reduced by different casinos the chance of losing everything before unlocking the bonus is still high so it's always best to play without one imo.

Besides no one force you to use it, you can simply enjoy your betting experience without this bonus, is up to you if you desire to play and try your luck
winning that wager requirements, the mere fact that they've provide information with their terms and condition they wanted to aware players/gamblers
about that, so your choice if you want to play regular or you want to have the shot.

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