Foundation Passport Official Thread - page 3.

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Quote from: foundationdvcs on November 11, 2024, 09:33:31 AM

OUR COMMUNITY IS MOVING!

Due to the proliferation of scammers on Telegram, we have taken the decision to migrate our community. All future community discussions should be now held at community.foundation.xyz.

I have read over there that update to v.2.3.5 remains risky for someones as it was with 2.3.4. Why does such problem persist? ^{(My Passport 2 still sticks to v.2.3.2 and such complains abut stuck devices at the end of update prevent me from its elevating to the higher version, ^{(one cannot be too careful)})}.

Quote from: https://community.foundation.xyz/t/firmware-stuck-work-around-question/75

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Quote from: foundationdvcs on November 11, 2024, 09:33:31 AM

OUR COMMUNITY IS MOVING!

Due to the proliferation of scammers on Telegram, we have taken the decision to migrate our community. All future community discussions should be now held at community.foundation.xyz. Our Telegram group will soon become read-only, with admins posting company updates.

Need support? Want to stay up to date? Got some product feedback? Head over to our new space to join the conversation!

Learn more in our blog post here.

NO ADMIN FROM OUR TELEGRAM ROOM WILL EVER DM YOU OFFERING SUPPORT. STAY VIGILANT!

Many of us stay in this forum for a reason, so we might not want to join other communities. Hopefully you will still be answering here.

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OUR COMMUNITY IS MOVING!

Due to the proliferation of scammers on Telegram, we have taken the decision to migrate our community. All future community discussions should be now held at community.foundation.xyz. Our Telegram group will soon become read-only, with admins posting company updates.

Need support? Want to stay up to date? Got some product feedback? Head over to our new space to join the conversation!

Learn more in our blog post here.

NO ADMIN FROM OUR TELEGRAM ROOM WILL EVER DM YOU OFFERING SUPPORT. STAY VIGILANT!

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Envoy v1.8.3 & Envoy v1.8.4 has been released.

v1.8.4 has fixed a problem from the previous v1.8.3 release affecting some users related to not being able to send to legacy type addresses.

You can read more on both blog posts about each release below.

https://foundation.xyz/2024/10/envoy-version-1-8-3-is-now-available/

https://foundation.xyz/2024/10/envoy-version-1-8-4-is-now-available/

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Probably it is worth to notify those who use Passport that this wallet has been elevated to v. 2.3.5 which "Fixed an issue where some users were unable to update their firmware". This bug din't touch me as my Passport2 is still running on 2.3.2^{(as I'm commonly reactant to go fast with updates and favor a go-slow approach)}. BTW, their firmware numbering is a bit strange for me as 2.3.3 got out of set.

Quote from: https://github.com/Foundation-Devices/passport2/releases/

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Quote from: dkbit98 on October 22, 2024, 03:48:29 PM

Price is a bit more expensive when ordered from BitcoinBrabant but delivery should be faster and fees lower.

That's no surprise. It's expected, considering it's an American product that has to be shipped from the United States. Then, you have to account for customs and import fees. Hence the more expensive price for non-US customers. The cheapest way to get a Foundation Passport is to buy it the US and smuggle it in into the EU or have someone else bring it for you.

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Quote from: Pmalek on October 22, 2024, 07:32:52 AM

Good news from Foundation for EU users. EU purchases will now be distributed in a partnership with Bitcoin Brabant. I assume they will ship from The Netherlands.
This means faster deliveries, lower shipping costs, and no customs fees and import taxes. This is now in effect for all orders placed in the EU.

Price is a bit more expensive when ordered from BitcoinBrabant but delivery should be faster and fees lower.
I don't know who did it first but I saw c0ldcard did the something similar and opened their shop in EU.
Cold-War continues

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Good news from Foundation for EU users. EU purchases will now be distributed in a partnership with Bitcoin Brabant. I assume they will ship from The Netherlands.
This means faster deliveries, lower shipping costs, and no customs fees and import taxes. This is now in effect for all orders placed in the EU.

Read more here:
https://foundation.xyz/2024/10/eu-shipping-improvements/

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🚀Passport v2.3.4 is Now Available!

With this version, we’ve worked closely with the Casa team on a number of small fixes to restore full compatibility with their excellent multisig service.

We’ve also addressed some visual bugs to further enhance your experience.

https://foundation.xyz/2024/10/passport-firmware-v2-3-4/

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Foundation now has a unique store for its Ambassadors - the Ambassador Store. Participants of the Ambassador program can receive discounts and unique merchandize for referring others to Foundation products and services.

Ambassadors get a $10 reward for every Passport someone purchases using their referral link and $5 for each Concierge service purchase.

At the moment, referral rewards can be turned into the following:
- Passport hardware wallets
- Personalized Concierge onboarding services
- Personalized Vault Concierge guidance
- Ambassador-only merchandize
- Bitcoin vouchers

Read The Ambassador Store is Live for more information on how to join the program and redeem your rewards.

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 13, 2024, 10:44:39 AM

Houses burn down too.. so it would not be good to have both things in the same location... meaning the device and the backup (s).

Of course. That's why I said they should preferably be in different geographical locations. One backup close to you and where you live is ok because it gives you quicker access to it if needed. I said preferably because it's sadly not always possible. If you moved to a new country, especially one on a different continent, chances are you don't have any family, relatives, friends, or anyone else close to you who you could trust with holding one backup. It would be very inconvenient if I had to catch a plane and fly several hours in one direction to be able to recover my bitcoin. Additionally, some people might not have family or others they trust regardless of where they live. They might have to give up on the idea of different locations for protecting their seeds.

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on September 13, 2024, 10:44:39 AM

Quote from: Pmalek on September 13, 2024, 07:40:09 AM

Quote from: satscraper on September 13, 2024, 07:30:21 AM

Well, I'll refine my wording. Those who didn't use stateless Passport may still access their stash even at the lost/forgotten SEED providing they keep in memory (^{or somewhere else)} the relevant PIN ^{(20 attempts are allowed)}. But those whose Passport is in the stateless mode will lost their stash at similar circumstances as device don't keep any data which would help them. That is why such users have to increase their concern about the safety of the relevant SEED/SeedQR.

I understand what you are saying, and I am sure you know how irresponsible it would be for an individual to not have multiple backups of their seed phrase, preferably in different geographical locations. Who ever does that, relies entirely on hoping that nothing will ever happen to the hardware wallet and that they will always be able to access it. However, many things can go wrong, where the device could malfunction, reset itself, or break entirely, leaving you standing there with no backup to rely on.

Houses burn down too.. so it would not be good to have both things in the same location... meaning the device and the backup (s).

I keep one backup in my home ^{(in fact on my key ring, always with me)} and two others at different geographically separated places at my relatives. They keep SEED-holding-media but don't have access to SEED. They would fail if could try to get it. This is due to technique I use to keep my backups I have already referred many times to the storage scheme applied but I think it will be worth to bring it back again...

P.S. Also keeping in my garage the primitive media ^{(in the form of washers)} that holds SEED.

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Quote from: Pmalek on September 13, 2024, 07:40:09 AM

Quote from: satscraper on September 13, 2024, 07:30:21 AM

Well, I'll refine my wording. Those who didn't use stateless Passport may still access their stash even at the lost/forgotten SEED providing they keep in memory (^{or somewhere else)} the relevant PIN ^{(20 attempts are allowed)}. But those whose Passport is in the stateless mode will lost their stash at similar circumstances as device don't keep any data which would help them. That is why such users have to increase their concern about the safety of the relevant SEED/SeedQR.

I understand what you are saying, and I am sure you know how irresponsible it would be for an individual to not have multiple backups of their seed phrase, preferably in different geographical locations. Who ever does that, relies entirely on hoping that nothing will ever happen to the hardware wallet and that they will always be able to access it. However, many things can go wrong, where the device could malfunction, reset itself, or break entirely, leaving you standing there with no backup to rely on.

Houses burn down too.. so it would not be good to have both things in the same location... meaning the device and the backup (s).

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Quote from: satscraper on September 13, 2024, 07:30:21 AM

Well, I'll refine my wording. Those who didn't use stateless Passport may still access their stash even at the lost/forgotten SEED providing they keep in memory (^{or somewhere else)} the relevant PIN ^{(20 attempts are allowed)}. But those whose Passport is in the stateless mode will lost their stash at similar circumstances as device don't keep any data which would help them. That is why such users have to increase their concern about the safety of the relevant SEED/SeedQR.

I understand what you are saying, and I am sure you know how irresponsible it would be for an individual to not have multiple backups of their seed phrase, preferably in different geographical locations. Who ever does that, relies entirely on hoping that nothing will ever happen to the hardware wallet and that they will always be able to access it. However, many things can go wrong, where the device could malfunction, reset itself, or break entirely, leaving you standing there with no backup to rely on.

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Quote from: Pmalek on September 12, 2024, 06:58:22 AM

Quote from: satscraper on September 11, 2024, 07:42:50 PM

I'm fully aware that at such stateless mode there is the increasing concern about the safety of the relevant SEED/SeedQR but I'm dead sure that the sophisticated scheme I use doesn't let me down.

I don't see that being any different from finding someone's recovery phrase. The phrase remains the most important piece in the bitcoin recovery scheme, and it's everyone's duty to hide the backups properly. Extending the seed with a passphrase adds another security layer, but also requires new ways to hide the seed extension. I have read your posts on encrypted seedQRs, btw.

Well, I'll refine my wording. Those who don't use stateless Passport may still access their stash even at the lost/forgotten SEED providing they keep in memory (^{or somewhere else)} the relevant PIN ^{(20 attempts are allowed)}. But those whose Passport is in the stateless mode will lost their stash at similar circumstances as device don't keep any data which would help them. That is why such users have to increase their concern about the safety of the relevant SEED/SeedQR.

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Quote from: satscraper on September 11, 2024, 07:42:50 PM

I'm fully aware that at such stateless mode there is the increasing concern about the safety of the relevant SEED/SeedQR but I'm dead sure that the sophisticated scheme I use doesn't let me down.

I don't see that being any different from finding someone's recovery phrase. The phrase remains the most important piece in the bitcoin recovery scheme, and it's everyone's duty to hide the backups properly. Extending the seed with a passphrase adds another security layer, but also requires new ways to hide the seed extension. I have read your posts on encrypted seedQRs, btw.

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Quote from: Meuserna on September 11, 2024, 09:08:59 PM

Quote from: satscraper on September 11, 2024, 08:38:31 PM

Quote from: Meuserna on September 11, 2024, 07:59:43 PM

Quote from: satscraper on September 11, 2024, 07:42:50 PM

I'm fully aware that at such stateless mode there is the increasing concern about the safety of the relevant SEED/SeedQR but I'm dead sure that the scheme I use doesn't let me down.

The next step is to do what the devs at Krux did: add the ability to use encrypted seed QRs.

I don't think so. It would square off against Occam's razor. If you have the impregnable technique to keep your SeedQR...

Your way requires an impenetrable technique though, just to secure a Seed QR. With an encrypted Seed QR, there's no danger if the seed QR is found. Obviously, it should still be secured, but even if somebody finds it, there's no fear of them being able to read it.

Distinction without a difference. Encrypted Seed QR would require an impenetrable technique to keep the relevant password/passphrase/PIN ^{(you name it)} to decrypt it. Foundation is tasked with more important issues ^{(like implementation of the silent payment)}, therefore there is no need to waste time and energy on the realization of the secondary (^{and probably unneedful )}stuff.

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Quote from: satscraper on September 11, 2024, 08:38:31 PM

Quote from: Meuserna on September 11, 2024, 07:59:43 PM

Quote from: satscraper on September 11, 2024, 07:42:50 PM

I'm fully aware that at such stateless mode there is the increasing concern about the safety of the relevant SEED/SeedQR but I'm dead sure that the scheme I use doesn't let me down.

The next step is to do what the devs at Krux did: add the ability to use encrypted seed QRs.

I don't think so. It would square off against Occam's razor. If you have the impregnable technique to keep your SeedQR...

Your way requires an impenetrable technique though, just to secure a Seed QR. With an encrypted Seed QR, there's no danger if the seed QR is found. Obviously, it should still be secured, but even if somebody finds it, there's no fear of them being able to read it.

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Quote from: Meuserna on September 11, 2024, 07:59:43 PM

Quote from: satscraper on September 11, 2024, 07:42:50 PM

I'm fully aware that at such stateless mode there is the increasing concern about the safety of the relevant SEED/SeedQR but I'm dead sure that the scheme I use doesn't let me down.

The next step is to do what the devs at Krux did: add the ability to use encrypted seed QRs.

I don't think so. It would square off against Occam's razor. If you have the impregnable technique to keep your SeedQR there is no sense to shoulder a decryption burden. Currently, passport has employed a well-balanced approach to the safety of BTC stash, However if someone would like to encrypt/decrypt SeedQR they could use the 3^rdparty apps to do this ^{(but I don't recommend to do this)}.

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Quote from: satscraper on September 11, 2024, 07:42:50 PM

I'm fully aware that at such stateless mode there is the increasing concern about the safety of the relevant SEED/SeedQR but I'm dead sure that the scheme I use doesn't let me down.

The ability to use the device stateless is a major benefit. The next step is to do what the devs at Krux did: add the ability to use encrypted seed QRs. Here's an example of an encrypted seed QR for a 12 word seed phrase.

A stateless airgapped device that uses encrypted seed QR is the ultimate in security for self custody, in my opinion.

Airgapped: hackers can't reach the device.

Stateless: the keys aren't saved on the device.

Encrypted seed QR: nobody but you can read the QR code.

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