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Quote from: TheGreatPython on December 10, 2022, 02:14:01 AM

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nothing to worry about PSG in league champions, if Neymar and Messi are injured we still have another one, namely Mbappe, and vice versa maybe we have to think is about PSG defense. Regarding the quality of attack, we have top players who can take advantage of opportunities as well as possible. Meanwhile, Bayern is also having serious problems about S.Mane coming back 3 months after operation, there is still a possibility that PSG will win if Bayern main player does not return to his best performance.

PSG is lucky to have too many top quality players in their squad which can help them for having better results into domestic league, and they can win this without their few top players as well but for the Champions League surely they need availability of their top players which help them for having good performance and better chances for the win in this season hopefully all will be clear in few weeks, and they will be able to perform with their best.

Things are interesting as Bayern Munich is also missing their striker Sadio Mané even they are also having few good replacements but still this can hurt their chances for the win in this season into Champions League, but few players are also good and improving which will help there for the best results.

Injuries might not be a serious problem for PSG as it might be for Bayern Munich. PSG have really good squad depth when it comes to attacking options as they have Mbappe, Lionel Messi, Neymar, Draxler, and Angel di Maria in their squad. This means that the coach can rotate the squad even if one or two players are missing.

In terms of Bayern Munich, I think they might have a problem as Sadio Mané might be returning to the pitch after a long time and I think they might seriously miss Robert Lewandowski. Overall, I am looking forward to a contest that will be really exciting as both teams are very capable of winning it.

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Quote from: püsür on December 10, 2022, 05:16:51 PM

Nevertheless, I also agree with your point, since Messi and Neymar are considerably older, they will be more affected by the fatigue from this World Cup. Even the both are quite professional, the psychological aspect of a big and important tournament will take its toll from these players. But as you said, Mbappe is quite young and he will be less affected. Still, things are looking great for PSG after this prestigious world cup for them.

All of them will be given enough recovery time after World Cup. Especially Messi who is the oldest player among the trio and with two matches left, PSG are closely to see a non-injured Messi and Mbappe in their club after World Cup.

Neymar will need lot of time to digest the defeat in World Cup but Champions League is still one of his biggest aims in this season. Maybe it is a second biggest aim of Neymar, just after World Cup. It is not easy for Neymar to digest this failure with Brazil especially he tried his best to recover fastly from in injury and scored an important goal in match with Croatia. More disappointed, according to media, Neymar did tried to advise his Brazilian teammates to focus on defense in very last minutes of the second extra half. His teammates did not listen to him and let Croatia equalized.

Anyway I would like to choose PSG as a champions in this season in Champions League. It would be a happy ending for the trio before they separate later.

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There is some good news for PSG. Neymar is already coming back to the team after the elimination of Brazil. Grin

Messi and Mbappe are still going on in the tournament but they are much less injury-prone than Neymar obviously. Neymar was really demoralized after being eliminated by Croatia but there is still a very long time ahead for PSG's next matches.

He can use this time to gather himself up and focus on his game at PSG again. PSG need these three important players not only healthy but also mentally strong. The Ligue 1 is pretty easy for them maybe but the Champions League doesn't forgive any weakness.

The most vulnerable is Messi, if he and his Argentina make it to the final round. if not injured, the effects of fatigue can greatly affect him to face his matches with PSG after all leagues are rolled out again. because after all, this world cup tournament will really drain the energy and mentality of the players who take part in this championship. for Neymar, I'm not sure that he has fully recovered. but he has enough rest time, before returning to play with PSG.

Mbappe, he's still young I'm sure he'll be fine after the world cup is over and come back to the club in top shape. on the other hand, the elimination of the Portugal squad over Marocco. several PSG players who defended Portugal will return to the team, such as, Vitinha, Nuno Mendes. Unfortunately, Danilo Pereira is reportedly injured. there is no certainty as to how long it will take him to recover. another formidable defender who will still be in Qatar is Hakimi.

so there are 3 PSG players who are still defending their national team in this world cup. even so, I hope that all PSG players who defend their national team will not experience problems after returning to PSG.

I saw a lot of people are talking about how teams of stars of PSG, everyone knows them but Messi, Mbappe, Neymar, were favoured by the referees in the Qatar World Cup. I don't agree with this but there is too much speculation. Therefor, it can be considered expected that the teams of Neymar, Mbappe and Messi came this far and Mbappe and Messi will continue. Things are looking good for Qatar, PSG and their stars. Personally, I don't want to believe in the speculations or accusations of the briberies or gossips. I just want to watch good and enjoyable football. And stars being shine and make our time watching football enjoyable. But, it is very hard to not listen what everyone is talking about. Nevertheless, I also agree with your point, since Messi and Neymar are considerably older, they will be more affected by the fatigue from this World Cup. Even the both are quite professional, the psychological aspect of a big and important tournament will take its toll from these players. But as you said, Mbappe is quite young and he will be less affected. Still, things are looking great for PSG after this prestigious world cup for them.

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Quote from: Bobrox on December 10, 2022, 04:14:49 PM

Can't used reference for friendly match because Nice in not completed player and have several main player still in their national team at World Cup, seems Nice have inconsistency performance after last two season can dominance at top fourth standing in Ligue 1. Have 15 matches, Nice collected 20 points with 5 won, 5 draw and 5 loss and seems not easy for Nice back to European spot standing finish.

Nice can get moment with postponed at World Cup for recovering their team and back to top level performance, left 10 points from latest team in Champion League spot standing I think still ability for Nice catching Marseille points if can consistency at second half match.

Before break Nice having average performance and with this they already lost their chance for the having any top spot because here now they need quality performance which is not easy in current situation they are losing points against weaker sides which mean things looking not good, and they have to invest for the improvement in quality and performance which can give them better return right now they are at the ninth spot and after break they are going to face Lens before end of this year which is surely not easy game, and they can go down with this as well they were in good shape, but their recent performance is not helpful for having better rank and for their qualification into European competitions.

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Quote from: hahay on December 10, 2022, 01:05:21 PM

Friendly matches cannot be used as a reference, because usually they also only try to make several strategies with players who are mostly not the main players. But apart from that, basically Nice is not a team that has high consistency every season, at least with Nice still being able to compete in the mid-table in Ligue 1, that is good enough for them.
You can check how Nice has been in the previous few seasons, at least Nice has only fluctuated in the top ten and is more precise in the five to ten positions.

Therefore, if Nice only loses in a friendly match I think that is still an okay result, because it is not certain that these bad results will continue to be experienced by Nice throughout the season.
If Nice continues to have bad results then it is unlikely that Nice will be able to survive in the top ten in the Ligue 1 standings. So in this case, I think Nice still hasn't experienced much change in performance, even though they changed coaches and also made some reshuffles but Nice still doesn't could be stable but Nice is good enough if it can consistently compete in the top ten.

Can't used reference for friendly match because Nice in not completed player and have several main player still in their national team at World Cup, seems Nice have inconsistency performance after last two season can dominance at top fourth standing in Ligue 1. Have 15 matches, Nice collected 20 points with 5 won, 5 draw and 5 loss and seems not easy for Nice back to European spot standing finish.

Nice can get moment with postponed at World Cup for recovering their team and back to top level performance, left 10 points from latest team in Champion League spot standing I think still ability for Nice catching Marseille points if can consistency at second half match.

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It would make sense to lose a few players, hell even if the big trio didn't play, the rest of the squad would be good enough to fight for a title, they won without Messi many times before, so that is for sure, and Neymar was constantly injured, so Mbappe alone with others can win we have seen that, and I feel like there is a chance they could do that again and without Mbappe too because they have a great roster now.

However, UCL requires all of them healthy, they need to be all 100% healthy, including the big three and everyone else, they need all players to not just be healthy but also play the best football they could possibly play to win UCL, it is a very tough competition.

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Quote from: CLS63 on December 10, 2022, 02:53:50 PM

There is some good news for PSG. Neymar is already coming back to the team after the elimination of Brazil. Grin

Messi and Mbappe are still going on in the tournament but they are much less injury-prone than Neymar obviously. Neymar was really demoralized after being eliminated by Croatia but there is still a very long time ahead for PSG's next matches.

He can use this time to gather himself up and focus on his game at PSG again. PSG need these three important players not only healthy but also mentally strong. The Ligue 1 is pretty easy for them maybe but the Champions League doesn't forgive any weakness.

The most vulnerable is Messi, if he and his Argentina make it to the final round. if not injured, the effects of fatigue can greatly affect him to face his matches with PSG after all leagues are rolled out again. because after all, this world cup tournament will really drain the energy and mentality of the players who take part in this championship. for Neymar, I'm not sure that he has fully recovered. but he has enough rest time, before returning to play with PSG.

Mbappe, he's still young I'm sure he'll be fine after the world cup is over and come back to the club in top shape. on the other hand, the elimination of the Portugal squad over Marocco. several PSG players who defended Portugal will return to the team, such as, Vitinha, Nuno Mendes. Unfortunately, Danilo Pereira is reportedly injured. there is no certainty as to how long it will take him to recover. another formidable defender who will still be in Qatar is Hakimi.

so there are 3 PSG players who are still defending their national team in this world cup. even so, I hope that all PSG players who defend their national team will not experience problems after returning to PSG.

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There is some good news for PSG. Neymar is already coming back to the team after the elimination of Brazil. Grin

Messi and Mbappe are still going on in the tournament but they are much less injury-prone than Neymar obviously. Neymar was really demoralized after being eliminated by Croatia but there is still a very long time ahead for PSG's next matches.

He can use this time to gather himself up and focus on his game at PSG again. PSG need these three important players not only healthy but also mentally strong. The Ligue 1 is pretty easy for them maybe but the Champions League doesn't forgive any weakness.

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Girona is not a French team but a Spanish team. I think that the top teams in France are disappointing, we can expect more from teams like Marseille and especially Monaco. Monaco is a very rich state, you would expect that they would attract better players in recent years? Finding the same sponsor as PSG isn't easy, but I think they can underperform now. PSG has suddenly emerged in the last 10 years, before that it was just a normal club, and it did not become champions of France. Maybe Mnoaco should bring Depay back? It is a pity that PSG has let Xavi Simons go to PSV.

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Quote from: Ratash on December 10, 2022, 12:48:30 PM

Nice team is a really confusing team they get good results in the tough games and lose or draw in the relatively easy ones today they lost to girona in a friendly game, girona are not exactly a tough team but they can sometimes be hard to beat, its a big difference between Nice performance in the last and current season i think they need some changes, the manager departure was a huge blow in my opinion.

Friendly matches cannot be used as a reference, because usually they also only try to make several strategies with players who are mostly not the main players. But apart from that, basically Nice is not a team that has high consistency every season, at least with Nice still being able to compete in the mid-table in Ligue 1, that is good enough for them.
You can check how Nice has been in the previous few seasons, at least Nice has only fluctuated in the top ten and is more precise in the five to ten positions.

Therefore, if Nice only loses in a friendly match I think that is still an okay result, because it is not certain that these bad results will continue to be experienced by Nice throughout the season.
If Nice continues to have bad results then it is unlikely that Nice will be able to survive in the top ten in the Ligue 1 standings. So in this case, I think Nice still hasn't experienced much change in performance, even though they changed coaches and also made some reshuffles but Nice still doesn't could be stable but Nice is good enough if it can consistently compete in the top ten.

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Nice team is a really confusing team they get good results in the tough games and lose or draw in the relatively easy ones today they lost to girona in a friendly game, girona are not exactly a tough team but they can sometimes be hard to beat, its a big difference between Nice performance in the last and current season i think they need some changes, the manager departure was a huge blow in my opinion.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on December 10, 2022, 02:14:01 AM

PSG is lucky to have too many top quality players in their squad which can help them for having better results into domestic league, and they can win this without their few top players as well but for the Champions League surely they need availability of their top players which help them for having good performance and better chances for the win in this season hopefully all will be clear in few weeks, and they will be able to perform with their best.

PSG don't have enough confidence in important matches and who is their captain? Their captain is Marcos Marquinhos and he is the heart of PSG defense. Honestly in many seasons, PSG lost their big advantages by conceding one, two or three goals very quickly. In World Cup, he made mistakes again and contributed to Brazil defeat.

Sergio Ramos has lot of experience and confidence but will he be able to force Marquinhos to play better?

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Things are interesting as Bayern Munich is also missing their striker Sadio Mané even they are also having few good replacements but still this can hurt their chances for the win in this season into Champions League, but few players are also good and improving which will help there for the best results.

Bayern Munich will have bad German players with super bad mood after returning from World Cup. I really believe that Bayern will have not too good matches a few weeks after Bundesliga resumes in January.

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Quote from: Slow death on December 09, 2022, 08:08:47 AM

Quote from: MuffinMaster on December 09, 2022, 07:27:33 AM

PSG will be back to their full form shortly after the World Cup ends.

PSG has no opponents in Ligue 1, even without having their main players they could be champions of Ligue 1, PSG's biggest problem is that they have made big investments and aim to win the Champions League, and their objective is not so easy to succeed, so they need to be much stronger than they already are to win the champions league and since Ligue 1 doesn't have strong opponents it makes it very difficult for them to get stronger

I agree with you that Paris Saint Germain have no equal in Ligue 1, the real competition for them is the Champions League. In fact, I can say they don't need to worry when they lose 1 or 2 players who have been a mainstay like Neymar for example. Because there are still other players who can cover the positions left behind if they do their Ligue 1 matches. I think the Champions League is their main target.

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Quote from: Doell on December 09, 2022, 08:17:34 AM

nothing to worry about PSG in league champions, if Neymar and Messi are injured we still have another one, namely Mbappe, and vice versa maybe we have to think is about PSG defense. Regarding the quality of attack, we have top players who can take advantage of opportunities as well as possible. Meanwhile, Bayern is also having serious problems about S.Mane coming back 3 months after operation, there is still a possibility that PSG will win if Bayern main player does not return to his best performance.

PSG is lucky to have too many top quality players in their squad which can help them for having better results into domestic league, and they can win this without their few top players as well but for the Champions League surely they need availability of their top players which help them for having good performance and better chances for the win in this season hopefully all will be clear in few weeks, and they will be able to perform with their best.

Things are interesting as Bayern Munich is also missing their striker Sadio Mané even they are also having few good replacements but still this can hurt their chances for the win in this season into Champions League, but few players are also good and improving which will help there for the best results.

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Quote from: bering on December 09, 2022, 07:59:33 AM

It's hard to repeat AS Monaco achievement currently considering PSG is too strong and after being an the champion on that year Monaco performance just like roller coaster that sometimes they playing well and finish at top 3 on standings league but often too Monaco cannot playing as fans expects even their worst season happened was on 2019 at that time Monaco almost be relegated

However currently Monaco under new manager Philippe Clement and actually before train Monaco he has good achievement during train Belgium teams but apparently under him Monaco still cannot performing well even more likely unstable and for upcoming matches on Ligue 1 actually Monaco will faced weak teams that Brest and Auxerre so i think Monaco should be able to collect points from these teams

In last season Monaco done good job and achieve third spot with just two points behind Marseille but in this season they are struggling with most chances they will come back in coming weeks but surely now few teams already done good job for the improvement in quality and performance of their teams which creating challenge for all top teams and Monaco have some big defeats like Marseille 2 - 3 and Lille 4 - 3 which give them setbacks and now after break they need to improvement which helps them for having good results and good spot as well even Lens is having nine points gape from them, but we can expect changes because still nearly 24 rounds available for having better results.

Now after break they are going to face Auxerre which is also in bad shape and right now struggling into relegation zone which will helps Monaco for having all three points in this match.

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Quote from: Doell on December 09, 2022, 08:17:34 AM

Yes nothing to worry about PSG in league champions, if Neymar and Messi are injured we still have another one, namely Mbappe, and vice versa maybe we have to think is about PSG defense. Regarding the quality of attack, we have top players who can take advantage of opportunities as well as possible. Meanwhile, Bayern is also having serious problems about S.Mane coming back 3 months after operation, there is still a possibility that PSG will win if Bayern main player does not return to his best performance.

Messi, Mbappe, have no problems so far. however, it looks like Neymar's injury has not really fully recovered. and if Argentina wins vs Netherlands, Messi still has another match in this world cup. Likewise with Mbappe, if he wins the match against England, Mbappe still has other matches if he advances to the final. on the other hand, there are also PSG players who are still participating in this world cup tournament to defend their national team. Vitinha, Danilo, Nuno Mendes, Hakimi, they are all important players for PSG. if one of them gets injured in this world cup, of course it will be a loss for the PSG boss.

but it could be a bad scenario, these PSG players are experiencing fatigue after carrying out their matches in the world cup. I think Galtier is quite worried about his players who are defending their respective national teams. as for Munich, even if Sadio Mane has to be absent for three months. Bayern Munich still has other players who are just as good to fill Mane's position. besides that, Bayern Munich benefited from the players having more prime stamina during this world cup break. however, at least if the PSG players are not injured Galtier can prepare his troops for the round of 16 later.

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Quote from: Doell on December 09, 2022, 08:17:34 AM

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It should be noted that the match in the Champions League is still a long time away. Their match will be held in February, which means that there are still a few months left from now, so why worry about something far more than that they are still in good condition, although some news say that Mbappe is having a little problem but it was only a small matter as the injury was not serious.

Yes nothing to worry about PSG in league champions, if Neymar and Messi are injured we still have another one, namely Mbappe, and vice versa maybe we have to think is about PSG defense. Regarding the quality of attack, we have top players who can take advantage of opportunities as well as possible. Meanwhile, Bayern is also having serious problems about S.Mane coming back 3 months after operation, there is still a possibility that PSG will win if Bayern main player does not return to his best performance.

Currently, Marquinhos and Neymar have confirmed that they will return home safely and there will be no problem for PSG because Brazil must accept the shocking reality of losing to Croatia in a penalty shoot-out some time ago.
At the moment there are still several players competing and their 2 superstrates namely Messi and Mbappe are still uncertain because Messi is still playing and Mbappe is playing tomorrow.
With things like this, it seems that injuries are not a problem anymore and there is no need to associate players with the added worry of being injured because of the world cup, especially for their star players.

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Quote from: herurist on December 08, 2022, 02:11:08 PM

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Messi, Neymar and Mbappe all are still continuing in the World Cup which must be worrying news for PSG. Because even if one this great trio gets a serious injury then they might have a really big problem against Bayern Munich. PSG have got a very tough draw in last 16 round already. I assume they were hoping to face a weaker team. Now it is more important for them to keep their best players healthy.

Especially Neymar is very injury-prone. He already got an injury too as you know but he is good now. If he gets another one then it might be more serious. Because we are in the later stages of the World Cup and teams would try to defend their opponents harder then before.

It should be noted that the match in the Champions League is still a long time away. Their match will be held in February, which means that there are still a few months left from now, so why worry about something far more than that they are still in good condition, although some news say that Mbappe is having a little problem but it was only a small matter as the injury was not serious.

Yes nothing to worry about PSG in league champions, if Neymar and Messi are injured we still have another one, namely Mbappe, and vice versa maybe we have to think is about PSG defense. Regarding the quality of attack, we have top players who can take advantage of opportunities as well as possible. Meanwhile, Bayern is also having serious problems about S.Mane coming back 3 months after operation, there is still a possibility that PSG will win if Bayern main player does not return to his best performance.

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Quote from: MuffinMaster on December 08, 2022, 12:25:37 PM

Three of PSG's best attacking players are still at the World Cup with their national teams. Their team is now in the top eight. Hopefully none of them will suffer too serious injuries, and will integrate and perform well after the World Cup.

something interesting about PSG is that even if they are missing one of their main strikers, I'm talking about mbappe or neymar or messi they would still have good results in Ligue 1, the only problem for them would be only in the Champions League so looking at Ligue 1 or PSG don't have to worry about injuries but looking at the champions league scene they need to have all 3 forwards in good health so they can have a chance of beating bayern, i doubt they would have any chance of beating bayern if they have some embezzlement with one of these 3 players, probably the PSG coach is worried about these 3 players and the next champions league game

Quote from: MuffinMaster on December 09, 2022, 07:27:33 AM

PSG will be back to their full form shortly after the World Cup ends.

PSG has no opponents in Ligue 1, even without having their main players they could be champions of Ligue 1, PSG's biggest problem is that they have made big investments and aim to win the Champions League, and their objective is not so easy to succeed, so they need to be much stronger than they already are to win the champions league and since Ligue 1 doesn't have strong opponents it makes it very difficult for them to get stronger

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Quote from: emrecemsan on December 08, 2022, 03:48:01 PM

It must be really sad for Monaco to get to this point from a team which were competing for the league title seriously. The 2016/17 season was the one in which they became the champions. They had an amazing squad back then. There were really skilled young players and the harmony among them was very solid. They had Mbappe those times above all else. He was so young but he was still able to impress big teams by an impressive effort. It was the time Falcao was keeping a great form as well - he finished the season with 21 goals.

It's hard to repeat AS Monaco achievement currently considering PSG is too strong and after being an the champion on that year Monaco performance just like roller coaster that sometimes they playing well and finish at top 3 on standings league but often too Monaco cannot playing as fans expects even their worst season happened was on 2019 at that time Monaco almost be relegated

However currently Monaco under new manager Philippe Clement and actually before train Monaco he has good achievement during train Belgium teams but apparently under him Monaco still cannot performing well even more likely unstable and for upcoming matches on Ligue 1 actually Monaco will faced weak teams that Brest and Auxerre so i think Monaco should be able to collect points from these teams

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