French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) - page 1133.

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Quote from: asriloni on December 19, 2022, 05:33:02 AM

Mbappe didn't feel so good at that moment but that must not be a problem if mbappe must have another chance again. i think that messi deserves it caused by he was also trying so hard to win from the france.

Mbappe is young enough to have a few more chances in World Cup but this failure in World Cup 2022 and the fantastic performance of Messi will probably help him to win the 8th Ballon d'Or. Please notice, 8th Ballon d'Or!

What Messi achieves with Ballon d'Or will never be repeated by anyone else. That's magic!

So this season can be another failed season of Mbappe with Ballon d'Or competition. He must wait for one more season to beat Messi and other players.

But there is something that Mbappe has and that Messi doesn't have at the moment, yes, that is an opportunity that is still very far ahead of him. On the other hand Messi has used the opportunity he has because I think in a few years we will hear an official announcement from Lionel Messi to retire.
He must take advantage of Mbappe's long opportunities, to achieve the achievements achieved by Messi or other players or even break new records.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 18, 2022, 06:22:31 PM

Mbappe is returning to PSG's games again by a disappointing result in the World Cup. He made a really huge effort and satisfied the expectations for sure. But they could have won the cup as well if they were able to play better as a team. I hope this result won't affect his performance at PSG badly for some time. Because this was a meaningful tournament for him as well just as it was for Messi.
France missed a big chance of winning the World Cup two times in a row and being the third team to make it in World Cup history. Messi would return with a big motivation of course which is good for PSG of course.

Respect for Kylian Mbappe and congratulations for Lionel Messi. We forgot for a moment about the world cup which ended last night, now is the time to focus back on the hunt for the Ligue 1 title. Here PSG will compete against Strasbourg on December 29, it is likely that Mbappe and Messi will not fill PSG's starter line up because they may still be tired after participating in the 2022 world cup. As hosts it seems they don't need to worry about this match, with the full support of their fans they will definitely win, especially in the last 5 matches PSG have always won.

In the first place, I would like to congratulate Lionel Messi on his remarkable performance at the World Cup. I would also like to express my condolences to Kylian Mbappe for his loss. Returning to the league, I believe PSG should have no problem beating Strasbourg on 29-Dec. In spite of the fact that they will rest Lionel Messi and Kylian Mbappe for the match, they have a strong depth of attacking options in their squad. I think they might be able to play players like Angel Di Maria and Mauro Icardi if needed.

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Quote from: asriloni on December 19, 2022, 05:33:02 AM

Mbappe didn't feel so good at that moment but that must not be a problem if mbappe must have another chance again. i think that messi deserves it caused by he was also trying so hard to win from the france.

Mbappe is young enough to have a few more chances in World Cup but this failure in World Cup 2022 and the fantastic performance of Messi will probably help him to win the 8th Ballon d'Or. Please notice, 8th Ballon d'Or!

What Messi achieves with Ballon d'Or will never be repeated by anyone else. That's magic!

So this season can be another failed season of Mbappe with Ballon d'Or competition. He must wait for one more season to beat Messi and other players.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 18, 2022, 06:22:31 PM

Mbappe is returning to PSG's games again by a disappointing result in the World Cup. He made a really huge effort and satisfied the expectations for sure. But they could have won the cup as well if they were able to play better as a team. I hope this result won't affect his performance at PSG badly for some time. Because this was a meaningful tournament for him as well just as it was for Messi.

France missed a big chance of winning the World Cup two times in a row and being the third team to make it in World Cup history. Messi would return with a big motivation of course which is good for PSG of course.

Mbappe and Messi had unforgettable moments at the World Cup. Messi won the trophy, Mbappe came very close to the trophy and didn't win. But both of them gained morale and motivation. I think they will carry what they experienced in the World Cup to the league. Paris Saint-Germain FC were already dominating the league. Now they will begin to dominate more strongly. Hakimi, Mbappe and Messi will return from Qatar with morale boosting. Also, rival teams in the league will be psychologically afraid of them. Paris Saint-Germain FC were the strongest contender for the league title. I don't think anyone can stop them now. They will beat Strasbourg comfortably at home next week.

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Quote from: Despairo on December 19, 2022, 01:37:31 AM

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France lost a chance to be a first team can protect their trophy after Brazil many years ago. Mbappe will return to PSG with bad mood and relationship with Messi and Neymar. Neymar congratulated Messi but did not show anything for Mbappe.

Will PSG be able to win Champions League with internal conflict of their biggest attacking players?

Don't forget Mbappe is the most important player in PSG and he has a control to choose his teammates, managers etc, this mean Mbappe can request to put Messi on bench until he's satisfied with his revenge. Technically PSG has the best strikers among other clubs since they have Messi and Mbappe who become man of the match from the final world cup, while Neymar is also important for Brazil.

I think PSG is currently have an awkward situation or internal conflict between Mbappe and Messi, it just depends on Mbappe ego, he's young and a selfish person, so he can't control his own emotion.

His hat-trick in the world cup final is not a huge success because it includes penalties and in the match where he did not do much, he evaluated the offer of the defenders who lacked IQ, although, the man was very calm. There are the British and the French, who cannot make use of these treats and will miss it when they look at their faces. The other players' faces fall after the second penalty missed in the world cup final. look at mbappe, he goes to comfort his friend and applauds. 24 years old, but calm like a brother, like a father. In a very good way. In my opinion, after last night, there will be no problem between them in the PSG, in Ligue 1 or CL or anywhere else. These big footballers will not be affected by these tournaments permanently. I am sure they will perform better than ever for PSG.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 18, 2022, 06:22:31 PM

France missed a big chance of winning the World Cup two times in a row and being the third team to make it in World Cup history. Messi would return with a big motivation of course which is good for PSG of course.

Mbappe didn't feel so good at that moment but that must not be a problem if mbappe must have another chance again. i think that messi deserves it caused by he was also trying so hard to win from the france. Both of players were playing for PSG.
The fact that if PSG is still on the champion league and mbappe can also try to being PSG to be a winner in the champion league. Mbappe's journey was still very long compared with mbappe which has even won the world cup in 2018.
i think that mbappe must try to wake from the result of current world cup

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Quote from: Despairo on December 19, 2022, 01:37:31 AM

Don't forget Mbappe is the most important player in PSG and he has a control to choose his teammates, managers etc, this mean Mbappe can request to put Messi on bench until he's satisfied with his revenge. Technically PSG has the best strikers among other clubs since they have Messi and Mbappe who become man of the match from the final world cup, while Neymar is also important for Brazil.

I think PSG is currently have an awkward situation or internal conflict between Mbappe and Messi, it just depends on Mbappe ego, he's young and a selfish person, so he can't control his own emotion.

Mbappe is an important player at PSG because PSG is also a team based in France, I see the French president pampered Mbappe too much and made him a golden boy. now each of the players competing in the world cup, be it messi or mbappe, have returned to their respective places, it's been a great journey in the world cup, and not until a month, ligue 1 starts again, i'm sure PSG will continue to maintain their dominance they are in ligue 1.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 18, 2022, 06:22:31 PM

Mbappe is returning to PSG's games again by a disappointing result in the World Cup. He made a really huge effort and satisfied the expectations for sure. But they could have won the cup as well if they were able to play better as a team. I hope this result won't affect his performance at PSG badly for some time. Because this was a meaningful tournament for him as well just as it was for Messi.

France missed a big chance of winning the World Cup two times in a row and being the third team to make it in World Cup history. Messi would return with a big motivation of course which is good for PSG of course.

Respect for Kylian Mbappe and congratulations for Lionel Messi. We forgot for a moment about the world cup which ended last night, now is the time to focus back on the hunt for the Ligue 1 title. Here PSG will compete against Strasbourg on December 29, it is likely that Mbappe and Messi will not fill PSG's starter line up because they may still be tired after participating in the 2022 world cup. As hosts it seems they don't need to worry about this match, with the full support of their fans they will definitely win, especially in the last 5 matches PSG have always won.

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Quote from: hd49728 on December 18, 2022, 11:13:34 PM

France lost a chance to be a first team can protect their trophy after Brazil many years ago. Mbappe will return to PSG with bad mood and relationship with Messi and Neymar. Neymar congratulated Messi but did not show anything for Mbappe.

Will PSG be able to win Champions League with internal conflict of their biggest attacking players?

Don't forget Mbappe is the most important player in PSG and he has a control to choose his teammates, managers etc, this mean Mbappe can request to put Messi on bench until he's satisfied with his revenge. Technically PSG has the best strikers among other clubs since they have Messi and Mbappe who become man of the match from the final world cup, while Neymar is also important for Brazil.

I think PSG is currently have an awkward situation or internal conflict between Mbappe and Messi, it just depends on Mbappe ego, he's young and a selfish person, so he can't control his own emotion.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 18, 2022, 06:22:31 PM

Mbappe is returning to PSG's games again by a disappointing result in the World Cup. He made a really huge effort and satisfied the expectations for sure. But they could have won the cup as well if they were able to play better as a team. I hope this result won't affect his performance at PSG badly for some time. Because this was a meaningful tournament for him as well just as it was for Messi.

Mbappe played very bad in about first 70 minutes but he suddenly scored two goals for France. Starting by a mistake of Otamendi, Mbappe scored 1 then 2 goal to bring France back to the match. Later he scored another third goal, another equalizer for France. In the final, France made lot of challenge and fear for Argentina after Deschamps sent some strong and fast players in like Marcus Thuram, Kolo Muani, Kingsley Coman, Camavinga.

I felt Argentina should lose that match because their coach, Scaloni was very late with substitutions and before two appearances of Lautaro Martinez and Paolo Dybala, Argentina were mostly at verge of failure with big pressure from France. A substitution of Marcos Acuna for Angel Di Maria is a failed one too.

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France missed a big chance of winning the World Cup two times in a row and being the third team to make it in World Cup history. Messi would return with a big motivation of course which is good for PSG of course.

France lost a chance to be a first team can protect their trophy after Brazil many years ago. Mbappe will return to PSG with bad mood and relationship with Messi and Neymar. Neymar congratulated Messi but did not show anything for Mbappe.

Will PSG be able to win Champions League with internal conflict of their biggest attacking players?

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Quote from: Velvet78 on December 18, 2022, 06:22:31 PM

Mbappe is returning to PSG's games again by a disappointing result in the World Cup. He made a really huge effort and satisfied the expectations for sure. But they could have won the cup as well if they were able to play better as a team. I hope this result won't affect his performance at PSG badly for some time. Because this was a meaningful tournament for him as well just as it was for Messi.

France missed a big chance of winning the World Cup two times in a row and being the third team to make it in World Cup history. Messi would return with a big motivation of course which is good for PSG of course.

Yes i totally agree we have seen the disapointement and grief on mbappe face at the end of the game this might affect him in a negative way along with neymar who must be more disapointed since his team lost to croatia on the quarter final but maybe this will give them a boost to try and win the champions league so we will have to wait for the game against bayern to see.

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Mbappe is returning to PSG's games again by a disappointing result in the World Cup. He made a really huge effort and satisfied the expectations for sure. But they could have won the cup as well if they were able to play better as a team. I hope this result won't affect his performance at PSG badly for some time. Because this was a meaningful tournament for him as well just as it was for Messi.

France missed a big chance of winning the World Cup two times in a row and being the third team to make it in World Cup history. Messi would return with a big motivation of course which is good for PSG of course.

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Quote from: wiss19 on December 18, 2022, 04:38:03 PM

Marseille and Monaco which are also struggling hopefully this break will help them for having positive change in their approach for the reminder of this season, and they will be able to fight back at higher rank which is important but Lens and Rennes are also not easy teams to fight with quality performance from them in first round of this season.

At the start of the season they looked confident but towards the holiday they had a little problem even in the last 5 matches before the holiday they won 2 wins, 2 defeats and 1 draw this is clearly a little difficult for them and like it or not they have to get up even in 2 matches Finally, Marseille is actually quite good.
In their first match after the holiday, this actually became one of the good opportunities because seeing their opponents, of course, Marseille and Monaco were slightly favored.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on December 18, 2022, 01:22:42 PM

PSG currently has the world's best striker strikers, mbappe and messi contributed greatly to their respective countries by becoming top scorers during the world cup, mbappe only had to bring PSG to win the UCL, so he has managed to make a big personal record at a young age

After today's game, PSG must have realized how lucky they were. They have 2 of the best attacking players in the world. I think what they need to do is to collect a lot of 3 points in the league as soon as possible and open the gap with their opponents and give all their attention to the Champions League. It would be a shame if this squad doesn't make it to the Champions League. They have always won the French league, except for the accident they have experienced for a year. Against such a roster, other smaller teams don't have much to do. They should complete the league early by making a winning streak and widening the points gap by the end of March. So all focus becomes CL.
Messi will be more willing after this championship. Mbappe likewise wants more success. I think this PSG should dominate all tournaments.

I would like to listen to the conversation of these two players on their return from WC. Two players from the same team scored 5 goals in a WC final, even with the final penalties 7. Can we witness something like this again? I don't think so.

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Quote from: indah rezqi on December 18, 2022, 02:29:06 PM

Messi and Mbappe will probably get a lot of vacation time after the final. The struggle of the two was very tiring after chasing each other to catch the top score and determine the fate of their country. Messi won the golden ball trophy while Mbappe was the top scorer, and France should be proud of the performance of its two players in the final.

So because of that, some PSG players will be out, and I think Lens can take advantage of that. Indeed, PSG will not be as weak as expected, that is because the quality of the players is on average above Lens.

We all know these are professional players, and they have to follow their clubs approach in future but still now we have first match on 29th December which mean ten days left but it's against Strasbourg which is easy game and reminder of the players can win without any help from these players but after this we have second match against second spotted Lens which is also doing amazing stuff and hopefully PSG will be able to have services of their best players for this match as well because they don't want to cut this gape of points which is currently giving them good edge.

Marseille and Monaco which are also struggling hopefully this break will help them for having positive change in their approach for the reminder of this season, and they will be able to fight back at higher rank which is important but Lens and Rennes are also not easy teams to fight with quality performance from them in first round of this season.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on December 18, 2022, 01:22:42 PM

PSG currently has the world's best striker strikers, mbappe and messi contributed greatly to their respective countries by becoming top scorers during the world cup, mbappe only had to bring PSG to win the UCL, so he has managed to make a big personal record at a young age

PSG will face Strasbourg, I bet they will win easily, PSG is really not caught up by other teams in Ligue 1

Mbappé is just 24 years old, and he already plays two FIFA World Cup finals with both times he is able to score goals which is amazing stuff even this time they lost on penalties but still a hard fought win for Argentina and amazing performance from this wonder boy of France and PSG hopefully with this performance he will be able to win the Champions League title as well which will bring him in legit list of top players in UEFA.

Now we have ten days left into start of next phase of this season which is going to be good for them because they are already at the top of the Ligue 1 table and now have all sights on Champions League title with things looking easy in league best defence and lethal attack is already giving them five points gapes.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on December 18, 2022, 03:19:26 AM

Mbappé have success with national team from Euro until World Cup tittle success get it during still 23 years old, Lionel Messi can't get tittle with his national team in young age but need waiting until achievement on 30 years old for Copa America tittle. I don't think for Lionel Messi and Mbappé have drastically level difference with Champion League trophy only missing.

Why many bad viewed with Mbappé about his attitude, during World Cup with France national team he most friendly and never made any mistake yet with their team and matches played, I sure Mbappé will reach the same level with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo later after joining potential team with Champion League opportunity tittle like Real Madrid.

This is a very very shallow approach to football. It is played with 11 people, if you calculate how strong France is without Mbappe and how strong Argentina would be without Messi you would have your answer. Lets assume that we take out Messi and Mbappe from this finals, they won't play, who do you think would win? I can easily tell you that the result would be like 5-0 France win, easily.

The only reason Argentina even came to finals twice now is the fact that Messi scored 5 goals and assisted plenty as well because dude knows how to control the game. When he has the ball on his foot, it's also a way other team can't score, he dictates the pace and the style of the game all by himself.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on December 18, 2022, 01:22:42 PM

PSG currently has the world's best striker strikers, mbappe and messi contributed greatly to their respective countries by becoming top scorers during the world cup, mbappe only had to bring PSG to win the UCL, so he has managed to make a big personal record at a young age

PSG will face Strasbourg, I bet they will win easily, PSG is really not caught up by other teams in Ligue 1

This still needs to be proven by his performance in the league later because playing as a team and as a club are clearly different, but indeed in this case to say they are great strikers actually from the start everyone also knew about this. Currently they still need to work hard in the Champions League especially in February they will still have a big match against Bayern in the last 16.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on December 18, 2022, 12:19:23 PM

Looks like it would be very difficult to happen. the reason is, after Ligue 1 was rolled back after a week, Lens had a game against PSG, at their own headquarters. so, to maintain the difference in points between PSG it will be very difficult for them to maintain. because after all, PSG is too strong for Lens to beat even though they are playing at home. moreover, to maintain their ranking in second place in the Ligue 1 standings is very dubious.

I am pessimistic, Lens will continue to perform consistently after Ligue 1 is rolled out again. I'm pretty sure, Marseille will perform even better once the league resumes. since the league break because of the world cup, it's enough for them to recover their stamina and fitness after a busy match. and Marseille will take back, the ranking they left before.

Messi and Mbappe will probably get a lot of vacation time after the final. The struggle of the two was very tiring after chasing each other to catch the top score and determine the fate of their country. Messi won the golden ball trophy while Mbappe was the top scorer, and France should be proud of the performance of its two players in the final.

So because of that, some PSG players will be out, and I think Lens can take advantage of that. Indeed, PSG will not be as weak as expected, that is because the quality of the players is on average above Lens.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on December 18, 2022, 01:22:42 PM

PSG currently has the world's best striker strikers, mbappe and messi contributed greatly to their respective countries by becoming top scorers during the world cup, mbappe only had to bring PSG to win the UCL, so he has managed to make a big personal record at a young age

PSG will face Strasbourg, I bet they will win easily, PSG is really not caught up by other teams in Ligue 1

There is no doubt about the outcome of this match. But it might also be nice for PSG to resume the competition with a relatively simple victory. Many players have also made an appearance at the World Cup, I don't know how they return from that. That was also football and training every day for 3 weeks. Those players now only have a few days off and can then play football again in the new year. It is a mess with the planning in the competitions, also in France. But it cannot be otherwise due to the playing dates of the Qatar World Cup.

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