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I believe that when talking about footballers that are still actively playing, only Ronaldo can be compared to Messi, and surely Mbappe cannot. Messi has won so many titles and individual awards, i do not think any other player can win the number of individual awards that Messi has won, but surely Mbappe has a bright future, he is very young and has achieved so much at a young age, i will not say he luckily won the world cup, there is nothing such as luck in that, and if he gets another world cup medal back to back at his young age, he might even win a total of 3 before he retires from football, and that is him writing down his name in history. Mbappe may never reach some heights Messi has attained, but i will not take anything away from that boy, he has a bright future and he will surely dominate.
Comparison with age Mbappe right now still 23 years old but he has excellent achievement with national team than Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. I don't blame with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo won many trophies with their club and success get many individual award but you can't close your eyes between Ronaldo and Messi never have World Cup tittle in their football career.

Surely Mbappe will reach and break all record achievement by Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, he has more than 10 years later career in football and many individual award achievement later.
Kylian Mbappe will never break Lionel Messi's record. Because Kylian Mbappe is just a striker or goal scorer. He has enough ability to score goals. But Lionel Messi is unique, there is no comparison, he is a playmaker, dribbler, scorer, there is no part of football that he does not participate in. The real beauty of football is revealed when Lionel Messi plays football. Lionel Messi can be called an all-rounder in football.
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Comparison with age Mbappe right now still 23 years old but he has excellent achievement with national team than Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. I don't blame with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo won many trophies with their club and success get many individual award but you can't close your eyes between Ronaldo and Messi never have World Cup tittle in their football career.
Mbappe is talented and younger than Messi and Ronaldo. His career is only at beginning but careers of Messi and Ronaldo are coming to endings. Only a few seasons left for us to enjoy football of Messi and Ronaldo.

Many legendary players have never won Champions League or World Cup in their careers so it is not the end of world if Messi and Ronaldo ends their careers without World Cup title.

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Surely Mbappe will reach and break all record achievement by Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, he has more than 10 years later career in football and many individual award achievement later.
It depends on his body too. If you are old enough, you should know about Ronaldo Nazario de Lima, the Brazilian player. He is a phenomenon in global football before his career was damaged by his knee injuries.



The seven minutes that changed Ronaldo's career... and the history of football?

Don't forget about Bale, Eden Hazard, Kaka, all of their careers were affected negatively by injuries.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronaldo_(Brazilian_footballer)
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kak%C3%A1
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gareth_Bale
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eden_Hazard
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Ligue 1 matches will return this December, and among their first matches, Paris Saint Germain will face Strasbourg. Of course this will be an easy match for Paris Saint Germain to get 3 points from a team in the relegation zone like Strasbourg. I think this will be the first win for Paris Saint Germain after coming back from the World Cup break. And what will be awaited are their 2 players who have successfully penetrated the final in Qatar.
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In any case the comparison is indeed not very appropriate because in terms of age, in terms of achievement it is also very far now. because if you really want a comparison, at least look for an equal comparison because Mbappe and Messi don't really match in terms of performance because from any perspective there are quite significant differences.
When you say Mbappe is better in terms of performance, it's quite natural, because the age is also very different. If you say Messi is better in terms of individuals, this achievement is also reasonable because he is nearing the end.
In this case I also agree with you, because what Messi already has, obviously, Mbappe doesn't necessarily have at this point. Both have different achievements in their careers and also different speed in the game, but it's about accuracy and how to carry the ball past their opponents in the game. I see that things are not that much different so it is correct to compare the two, it is very less suitable to do except with players who are both senior in their football career.
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Mbappe has much better potential at his relatively young age, before that Messi also had great speed and smart at Barcelona. Lionel Messi and Mbappe have their own uniqueness and advantages, that's all we can say for now because Mbappe still has a long way to grow better, but I think Messi is also a smart person even very smart. Anyway, PSG already have Messi and Mbappe and this team dominating the French league so far.

Messi has received several awards, at the age of 23 years. two from the Balon D'Or, he had gotten at a relatively young age. an achievement that is difficult to be rivaled by any player. Messi also has speed and good balance when dribbling, he has had everything besides the world cup trophy. Mbappe is a very talented young player, unfortunately Mbappe's individual titles are not as flashy as Messi's.

Mbappe only has an advantage over Messi in the form of a world title. and now, they will fight each other for the world cup trophy for their country. Mbappe is a young talent, at his age he is showing his skills. Unfortunately, he is not equipped with a good attitude. his career could fade, if he could not control his own ego.
on the other hand, Haaland is a candidate who will become his rival for various awards. these two young stars, will be one of the next golden generation.
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Kylian Mbappé is a fantastic striker. He has great pace in his game, he is able to beat the opposing team's defense and score goals with his speed. But comparing Lionel Messi to Kylian Mbappé is absolutely stupid. Kylian Mbappe is just a smart striker.
In any case the comparison is indeed not very appropriate because in terms of age, in terms of achievement it is also very far now. because if you really want a comparison, at least look for an equal comparison because Mbappe and Messi don't really match in terms of performance because from any perspective there are quite significant differences.
When you say Mbappe is better in terms of performance, it's quite natural, because the age is also very different. If you say Messi is better in terms of individuals, this achievement is also reasonable because he is nearing the end.
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But if PSG this season might be able to get to the Champions League final match, then I'm sure Mbappe will stay at PSG. Because moving to Real Madrid too I think the competition in La Liga is the same, because Real Madrid is also always the favorite and it's the same situation with PSG in Ligue 1.
Although indeed, in La Liga there are opponents who at least have the same quality as Barcelona. Meanwhile, at this moment for PSG in Ligue 1, even though sometimes PSG also only gets draws and also loses, in the end PSG will still be at the top of the Ligue 1 standings.

The situation is at least the same as Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga and therefore, if Mbappe can take PSG further in the Champions League then I'm pretty sure Mbappe will stay at PSG maybe for a longer time.
Because the benchmark right now is only about the Champions League, because their target of being strong in the local league has at least been achieved. Also, if Mbappe can lead PSG to win the Champions League title too then it is very possible for Mbappe to get the Ballon d'Or and therefore, basically the potential for achievement for Mbappe at PSG is very big if he can get many top achievements.
Winning the Champions League will not stop Mbappe from leaving if he is bent on saying goodbye to ligue 1. Madrid almost finalized the deal of bringing him over to  laliga before he got a mouth watering offer from PSG to extend his contract. Mbappe is one player who loves good football, which made him consider the initial offer from Madrid. If he fails to win the CL in PSG for two years consecutive, he might decide to go on loan to PSG since his contract extends till 2025 at PSG.

I know we are almost certain that Mbappé is not intending to stay at PSG. But what happens if PSG just offers him another stupid contract which will give him a stupid amount of money and he decides to stay, again?

Because at this point, I am not convinced that the target of Mbappé is to have a legacy. I honestly think that money is more important for him. I am quite certain that PSG will be able to have a respectable result in the Champions League. And obviously, PSG will also win the Ligue-1 title. These are going to be enough for Mbappé to stay in the PSG squad.

Real Madrid are not interested in Mbappé at this moment as far as I know. At this point, it is also not going to be surprising if he stays in the PSG squad or leaves. And I will have to disagree on one thing which is I don’t see Mbappé winning too many things with PSG. At least he is not looking to leave a legacy behind, that’s for sure.
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There is no need to compare Mbappe to a legend like Messi. They are both amazing players above all else. But I'm putting each one of them in different places rather than comparing them. Both of them are very significant players for PSG at the moment. Maybe Mbappe has a much bigger ego than Messi and Neymar both. But as long as this ego doesn't get ahead of his performance quality there is still no problem for the team.

Mbappe has long years ahead of him in his career as he is very young now. His character would get better while he is getting more experienced day by day. I don't expect to watch him only at PSG as well by the way. Real Madrid might be his next team in the future.

For those comparing Mbappe and Messi, I think they are making cooked-up stories out of nothing because looking at the age, achievements, and quality of the players, Mbappe is nowhere to get closer to Messi who has been in the system for decades, and still doing great at his old age. At a young age, Mbappe proved that he is the new Messi and Ronaldo with his good performance but until the era of Messi and Ronaldo is gone, Messi will always come out as the best when compared to Mbappe.

As for the character of the young Mbappe, the ego will be reduced when he understands that pride and ego don't get the work done on the field but hard work and good relationship with teammates and coaches get the job done then he will moved to get the maturity he needs to become a successful player.

I wasn't finding a comparison between Messi and Ronaldo logical either. Because these players haven't even been playing in the same positions. But people have been comparing them because of being the biggest legends of their time. I think it is better to compare the performances of players who are playing in the same position.

I just see Messi and Ronaldo as one of the best players in football history. Both of these players deserve a big respect due to having amazing careers so far.
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I believe that when talking about footballers that are still actively playing, only Ronaldo can be compared to Messi, and surely Mbappe cannot. Messi has won so many titles and individual awards, i do not think any other player can win the number of individual awards that Messi has won, but surely Mbappe has a bright future, he is very young and has achieved so much at a young age, i will not say he luckily won the world cup, there is nothing such as luck in that, and if he gets another world cup medal back to back at his young age, he might even win a total of 3 before he retires from football, and that is him writing down his name in history. Mbappe may never reach some heights Messi has attained, but i will not take anything away from that boy, he has a bright future and he will surely dominate.
Comparison with age Mbappe right now still 23 years old but he has excellent achievement with national team than Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. I don't blame with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo won many trophies with their club and success get many individual award but you can't close your eyes between Ronaldo and Messi never have World Cup tittle in their football career.

Surely Mbappe will reach and break all record achievement by Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, he has more than 10 years later career in football and many individual award achievement later.
Kylian Mbappé is a fantastic striker. He has great pace in his game, he is able to beat the opposing team's defense and score goals with his speed. But comparing Lionel Messi to Kylian Mbappé is absolutely stupid. Kylian Mbappe is just a smart striker.
Mbappe has much better potential at his relatively young age, before that Messi also had great speed and smart at Barcelona. Lionel Messi and Mbappe have their own uniqueness and advantages, that's all we can say for now because Mbappe still has a long way to grow better, but I think Messi is also a smart person even very smart. Anyway, PSG already have Messi and Mbappe and this team dominating the French league so far.
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I believe that when talking about footballers that are still actively playing, only Ronaldo can be compared to Messi, and surely Mbappe cannot. Messi has won so many titles and individual awards, i do not think any other player can win the number of individual awards that Messi has won, but surely Mbappe has a bright future, he is very young and has achieved so much at a young age, i will not say he luckily won the world cup, there is nothing such as luck in that, and if he gets another world cup medal back to back at his young age, he might even win a total of 3 before he retires from football, and that is him writing down his name in history. Mbappe may never reach some heights Messi has attained, but i will not take anything away from that boy, he has a bright future and he will surely dominate.
Comparison with age Mbappe right now still 23 years old but he has excellent achievement with national team than Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. I don't blame with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo won many trophies with their club and success get many individual award but you can't close your eyes between Ronaldo and Messi never have World Cup tittle in their football career.

Surely Mbappe will reach and break all record achievement by Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, he has more than 10 years later career in football and many individual award achievement later.
Kylian Mbappé is a fantastic striker. He has great pace in his game, he is able to beat the opposing team's defense and score goals with his speed. But comparing Lionel Messi to Kylian Mbappé is absolutely stupid. Kylian Mbappe is just a smart striker.
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I believe that when talking about footballers that are still actively playing, only Ronaldo can be compared to Messi, and surely Mbappe cannot. Messi has won so many titles and individual awards, i do not think any other player can win the number of individual awards that Messi has won, but surely Mbappe has a bright future, he is very young and has achieved so much at a young age, i will not say he luckily won the world cup, there is nothing such as luck in that, and if he gets another world cup medal back to back at his young age, he might even win a total of 3 before he retires from football, and that is him writing down his name in history. Mbappe may never reach some heights Messi has attained, but i will not take anything away from that boy, he has a bright future and he will surely dominate.
Comparison with age Mbappe right now still 23 years old but he has excellent achievement with national team than Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. I don't blame with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo won many trophies with their club and success get many individual award but you can't close your eyes between Ronaldo and Messi never have World Cup tittle in their football career.

Surely Mbappe will reach and break all record achievements of Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, he has more than 10 years later career in football and many individual award achievement later.
No doubt, mbappe is doing extremely great. But it's still too early to compare him to Messi and Ronaldo. Mbappe may be greater than Messi and Ronaldo if he's able to keep the walls of his football career high and stronger than it is now. A lot of factors have hindered so many football stars from reaching their expected height. I've heard about the story of great footballers like Adrian Mutuz>>former Millan and Chelsea,  Andrey Kanchelskis >> former manchester united, Andy Van der Meyde>>>>> former Ajax and Everton, and so many others who lost their careers as a result of addiction to some inappropriate vices like Drugs, alcohol, rape and many more. Is better we give Respect to Messi and Ronaldo and encourage young Mbappe to Emulate their footstep, than comparing the young star to his icons.
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I believe that when talking about footballers that are still actively playing, only Ronaldo can be compared to Messi, and surely Mbappe cannot. Messi has won so many titles and individual awards, i do not think any other player can win the number of individual awards that Messi has won, but surely Mbappe has a bright future, he is very young and has achieved so much at a young age, i will not say he luckily won the world cup, there is nothing such as luck in that, and if he gets another world cup medal back to back at his young age, he might even win a total of 3 before he retires from football, and that is him writing down his name in history. Mbappe may never reach some heights Messi has attained, but i will not take anything away from that boy, he has a bright future and he will surely dominate.
Comparison with age Mbappe right now still 23 years old but he has excellent achievement with national team than Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. I don't blame with Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo won many trophies with their club and success get many individual award but you can't close your eyes between Ronaldo and Messi never have World Cup tittle in their football career.

Surely Mbappe will reach and break all record achievement by Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, he has more than 10 years later career in football and many individual award achievement later.
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At the moment it seems that Mbappe and Messi are getting more attention, that is because they will meet in the final round of the World Cup to help their country become champions. Not only that, they are also the players who have scored the most goals in Qatar with a collection of 5 goals each. This will be good for Paris Saint Germain, because they have players who have performed very well in the World Cup. This is good news for them after these two players joined PSG.
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There is no need to compare Mbappe to a legend like Messi. They are both amazing players above all else. But I'm putting each one of them to different places rather than comparing them. Both of them are very significant players for PSG at the moment. Maybe Mbappe has a much bigger ego than Messi and Neymar both. But as long as this ego doesn't get ahead of his performance quality there is still no problem for the team.

Mbappe has long years ahead of him in his career as he is very young now. His character would get better while he is getting more experienced day by day. I don't expect to watch him only at PSG as well by the way. Real Madrid might be his next team in the future.
Indeed, Mbappe is still young and it is natural that he is often selfish, but even so, he has great abilities and has been able to contribute a lot to PSG so far. But in the future, maybe Mbappe will be on the same level as Messi and Neymar. For him, when these two players have retired, he still has good physicality and stamina to give the best for the club he defends. About Real Madrid, maybe he could come there, but Real Madrid still have a good enough squad on the front lines, maybe in 1 or 2 years, if there is a mature plan, Real Madrid can bring in Mbappe later.
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Mbappe is as good as Messi, maybe even better. Especially as they know each other very well. In yesterday's game against Morocco, Mbappe made excellent passes, no worse than Leonel Messi. By the way, in the PSG game Mbappe also plays better than Messi in my opinion. They just have an age difference, so Messi seems wise.
I believe that the efficiency of motion is something that many people are unaware of. Messi uses his extra movement to do a lot. He will only make the necessary movements to get from Point A to Point B, which frequently involves passing through the legs of a defender, such as a shoulder dip, hip movement, jab step, or shortening or lengthening his dribble.

Given that he is making something that is extraordinarily difficult to achieve appear simple, it is that simplicity and efficiency that is so captivating. Given that his style of play is so successful, you might question why other players haven't used it previously. And the reason is that he excels at throwing the defense off balance.
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Mbappe is as good as Messi, maybe even better. Especially as they know each other very well. In yesterday's game against Morocco, Mbappe made excellent passes, no worse than Leonel Messi. By the way, in the PSG game Mbappe also plays better than Messi in my opinion. They just have an age difference, so Messi seems wise.
age affects the performance of every player, maybe the times of messi and cristiano have faded and been replaced with young ones. but from what I see, mbappe imitates cristiano's playing style a lot, maybe because he used to be a big fan of cristiano. messi and mbappe are competing for the world cup and also the top scorer in the world cup, they are a team (on PSG) but competing in a healthy manner.
Yes, indeed Mbappe has adopted a lot of games from Cristiano Ronaldo, this is inseparable because Kylian Mbappe is a fan of Cristiano Ronaldo and really motivates him. Mbappe is a good player, but it's a shame his attitude is often unstoppable which makes him hated a lot for his attitude. But in terms of the game, it must be admitted that he is one of the best players in this era.
Before returning to Paris Saint Germain, they will fight for the title for their respective countries, as well as determine who will be the top scorer in this edition of the World Cup.
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Mbappe is as good as Messi, maybe even better. Especially as they know each other very well. In yesterday's game against Morocco, Mbappe made excellent passes, no worse than Leonel Messi. By the way, in the PSG game Mbappe also plays better than Messi in my opinion. They just have an age difference, so Messi seems wise.
age affects the performance of every player, maybe the times of messi and cristiano have faded and been replaced with young ones. but from what I see, mbappe imitates cristiano's playing style a lot, maybe because he used to be a big fan of cristiano. messi and mbappe are competing for the world cup and also the top scorer in the world cup, they are a team (on PSG) but competing in a healthy manner.
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Neymar's absence wouldn't be a big problem in the Ligue 1 matches even if he doesn't return until then. Because PSG are still too powerful against the remaining teams in the league. Mbappe and Messi would already be enough to obtain comfortable victories in many matches. As you said Neymar is returning very soon so there isn't any problem for PSG. They will just hope for Brazil to have him playing for as short time as possible. If he gets another injury this time it might be more serious.

He is already an injury-prone player you know. PSG had to face with a serious injury for Neymar in the previous season. He missed so many matches due to this. PSG need to keep all of their players in the trio away from an injury before their Champions League matches. Otherwise the Champions League title would be no more than a dream.

Well, according to Neymar's face, he is prone to injuries and the worst thing is that ankles are a factor that slows down any player and I think that a common person is also very difficult to have that weakness, because against Ney's complexion It is very similar to that of the Argentine noodle Dimaria, because they are players to exploit but they are not very strong, any blow sends them to the ground and hurts them a lot, but ability is what is most measured here, we have the example of a Lukaku from Belgium, he is very strong, but he does not have the ability of Ney, he can reach the penalty spot and dribble goals like he did with the Belgian team in the World Cup and thanks to that they were left out, in that sense, I prefer to have Neymar in a team that someone very strong but not so effective.


Bayern is now missing their great goalkeeper, and PSG is not missing anyone unless Messi gets injured for the remainder of the world cup, which means that they will have an advantage.

Bayern may not miss Neuer during bundesliga, but PSG will use their talents to abuse the newer goalkeeper for sure, it will be a better for them without a doubt. I am not saying that we should be expecting them to lose for sure, Bayern could still win, but I see PSG as the favourites for sure, that means betting on them should be easier. Odds will not take Neuers importance all that much, and they will give them close odds, and that is why betting on PSG would be so great.
I don't expect Messi to be injured in the World Cup final where he will need more than a month to recover. Of course, injuries will have an impact on PSG's strength, especially in the attack line because so far the two mainstays of PSG, both Messi and Mbappe, are in their best performance. These two players are competing to become the top scorer or maybe the best player during the World Cup, each of them has scored 5 goals and the number is still likely to increase.

PSG's advantage is to have both of them in attack, which is great. And maybe Mbappe and Messi will clash in the final if France beat Morocco in the semi-finals. I really see Messi having a huge impact on Argentina's game and victory in the current World Cup, and so far Messi has been absolutely amazing.

Well, I also think the same, I think that Messi is in one of the best moments of his life and one of the things that I think he is going to win is the world cup, and this without underestimating his opponent (whoever he is) since Messi He has done excellently, this for PSG is a pride that could be seen coming, both Messi and Mbappé representing one of their best performances, that when they arrive at PSG to play they will do it in a great way and with much less stress, because PSG is somewhat relaxed, the only thing is the commitment they have in the UCL, which is something very different and obviously they are all expected to be 100%.

This match will be very good, both Messi and Mbappé have their arsenal, now, here as to what is my personal criteria, I would like Argentina to win the championship and with that he gives the French a lesson in humility.

Kylian Mbappé's 'issue' with Lionel Messi revealed ahead of World Cup final



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According to the Spanish newspaper El Pais, Mbappé is good friends with PSG teammate Achraf Hakimi but with Messi and Neymar, the French forward's relationship 'never exceeds strictly professional limits.' His relationship with Neymar is said to be strained.

Meanwhile, back in October, Spanish media outlet Marca reported that Mbappé has an 'issue' with Messi. The forward reportedly believes that his teammate has too much power in the PSG squad. Messi is said to have assumed a similar position to the one he held at Barcelona, where he was the dressing room leader.

Source: https://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/kylian-mbappe-lionel-messi-world-cup-final-278775

If Messi wins and Argentina, I think Neymar will celebrate as if it had been Brazil itself that had won the World Cup.
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Luckily he won the World Cup at a young age doesn't warrant fans talking these and that Mbappe on his own knows his level
I believe that when talking about footballers that are still actively playing, only Ronaldo can be compared to Messi, and surely Mbappe cannot. Messi has won so many titles and individual awards, i do not think any other player can win the number of individual awards that Messi has won, but surely Mbappe has a bright future, he is very young and has achieved so much at a young age, i will not say he luckily won the world cup, there is nothing such as luck in that, and if he gets another world cup medal back to back at his young age, he might even win a total of 3 before he retires from football, and that is him writing down his name in history. Mbappe may never reach some heights Messi has attained, but i will not take anything away from that boy, he has a bright future and he will surely dominate.
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I think Mbappe and Messi are still under the danger of getting injured. Mbappe was even nearly getting injured in the Morocco match today. Morocco players weren't going easy on him at all. Mbappe had some problems both they were only temporary injuries which was gone in a short time. PSG must have been really worried after seeing him in pain that much of course.

We will be watching Messi vs Mbappe in the finale of the World Cup as it seems. I hope there will be no injury incident for any of these two stars and they will come back to PSG as healthy players. Of course there will be still a long time until their first leg against Bayern Munich. But a lasting injury for any of the trio would be a big problem for PSG anyway. For now I'm also thinking that they are one step ahead of Bayern Munich as they are lacking Mane and Neuer for now.

Both Lionel Messi and Mbappé are in the final of the World Cup. Now there is no question that these two are determined to try their hardest to bring the World Cup to their own country. Lionel Messi is obviously determined to give his 100%, or even more than that, if possible. Mbappé has already brought in one World Cup for France, but that does not mean he’s gonna try any less this time. So, obviously, there is a substantial chance for both of them to get injured. And that is proving to be very problematic for PSG.

I really hope that none of them gets injured in the final. I also hope that Lionel Messi will be able to win the World Cup for Argentina. But I don’t think Argentina will be able to accomplish that.

For me, the equation is simple. If none of these two players get injured, PSG should be able to win against Bayern Munich. But if even one of these players does get injured, PSG will face some difficulties.
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