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Toulouse, AC Ajaccio and Auxerre are clubs that have successfully moved up the ranks to the highest caste in France. However, of the 3 clubs, only Toulouse performed better than the other 2 clubs. Ajaccio and Auxerre are still trying to get out of the red zone they currently occupy. However, it will be a very tight competition at the bottom of the standings because 6 clubs only have one point difference from the position they occupy, even from the 3 clubs having the same number of points, namely by collecting 13 points. . I hope that from the three clubs promoted, they will not only pass, but they will provide real competition in the table.

The promoted teams have always difficulties to stay in the league for the first season since their players are weaker and weren't used to play vs professional teams mainly.
Their most important goal is to stay in the league first then to progress in the ranking whenever they consolidate the team with new good players.
Unfortunately for Ajaccio and Auxerre is that they joined Ligue 1 in the hardest season where 4 teams at once will drop to the second league..

Players in promoted teams are not experienced enough. So suddenly they cannot perform well when they face strong teams. Gradually they lose confidence and their performance deteriorates further. However, the main weakness of teams like Ajaccio and Auxerre this season is their poor defense. The defense of these two teams is one of the weakest defenses in the league. I'd say Ajaccio and Auxerre can stay out of the relegation zone if they can strengthen their defenses.

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PSG consistently gives at least one title a year - Champion of France. Plus, there is also the French Cup, so Messi can easily get titles that will allow him (if I'm not mistaken, he has very little left) to become the most titled player in the world. And in fact, PSG is now higher than the level of Messi, I would say that the club is pulling him and not vice versa. Leaving such a comfortable club to Barcelona in crisis or somewhere else is stupid. The question is whether PSG will be interested in continuing cooperation.

They do not need one title, they need all 6 and that's the issue. Could they end up with all 6? To win the ligue 1, that’s easy, to win the domestic cup? That should be easy, to win UCL? That’s very hard and that’s what they aim every single year, and spending that much money? Owners surely believe they deserve to win UCL at least once. After that is easy, it's domestic super cup, which should be child’s play, to win uefa super cup, to play with europa winner, not as easy but still should be easy, and then club world cup which is hard but still doable.

If we ever see PSG win those all 6 cups, that would be "enough", like not just for one year, but after that they can just win ligue 1 and nothing else for another 10 years and still be happy about the situation.

Yes, it is as you say, for now Messi has managed to win many titles, what happens is that the UCL is very tough, I think that for now what they have to ensure is Ligue 1, which will not be difficult at all, for me it is something that they can easily achieve without much effort, plus the participation of Neymar and Mbappé will always make it easier, but as I had said before, both Messi and Neymar understand each other very well on the pitch, much more than Mbappé with Messi, maybe because Mbappé is a bit more selfish.

When they put the 3 players to play it's something that can be scary, the team that I thought was going to make things tough for them the most was Marseille, but I see that no, so it's something that we should rule out, but getting the UCL would do it. I see it as very difficult, what's more, beating Bayern I see it as even more complicated.

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‘He is world-class’: Former France boss Domenech names the one Liverpool player he would like to play for PSG

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“If we talk about Mohamed Salah, I can only say he is world-class,” Domenech said.

“All the awards that Salah won are fully deserved. It is unfortunate that he will not participate in the 2022 World Cup.

“I would certainly like to see him play for Paris Saint-Germain. A player with this mentality pushes the team forward and is a huge addition.

“He is on a level that only Lionel Messi and Kylian Mbappe reached, and he embodies what every coach wishes for in a player and will add so much to French football.”

Source: https://www.rousingthekop.com/2022/11/20/he-is-world-class-former-france-boss-domenech-names-the-one-liverpool-player-he-would-like-to-play-for-psg/

It would be quite a surprise to have one of the best players they can sign next to a great trident, Mo Salah is undoubtedly a player who can make a difference at any time.

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PSG has done it in previous seasons maintaining all three star players and the are good at playing their various positions as strikers. If Neymar be willing to leave then the club will have no choice but to let him go. I don't know of any club that can actually afford to keep him at their stadium the very reason he might end up retiring at PSG except he leaves on loan or free transfer.

Neymar still has plenty of time to retire, after showing good performance, I'm sure PSG will intend to keep him at PSG. actually from the start, the reason PSG recruited him was so they could get the UCL trophy (because they were too bored with the Ligue 1 trophy), let's see if this season PSG can get it.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 20, 2022, 01:39:20 PM

Toulouse, AC Ajaccio and Auxerre are clubs that have successfully moved up the ranks to the highest caste in France. However, of the 3 clubs, only Toulouse performed better than the other 2 clubs. Ajaccio and Auxerre are still trying to get out of the red zone they currently occupy. However, it will be a very tight competition at the bottom of the standings because 6 clubs only have one point difference from the position they occupy, even from the 3 clubs having the same number of points, namely by collecting 13 points. . I hope that from the three clubs promoted, they will not only pass, but they will provide real competition in the table.

But if we compare the three promoted teams, at least Toulouse was the best team last season in Ligue 2 because Toulouse won the Ligue 2 title last season. Whether it's a decent result or not, because every team that wins a title in the second tier of the league basically doesn't guarantee that they will be good when playing in the top tier of the league.
Because such cases also occur frequently in different leagues and countries, and it is still a decent result.

Because most promoted teams find it difficult to get good results or the expected results when playing in the highest caste of the league, but if one of them or maybe all of them can survive in the highest caste of the league for the next season then of course that is an achievement good for them.
But still, usually with time they will get degraded again and that's how it usually happens.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 20, 2022, 01:39:20 PM

Toulouse, AC Ajaccio and Auxerre are clubs that have successfully moved up the ranks to the highest caste in France. However, of the 3 clubs, only Toulouse performed better than the other 2 clubs. Ajaccio and Auxerre are still trying to get out of the red zone they currently occupy. However, it will be a very tight competition at the bottom of the standings because 6 clubs only have one point difference from the position they occupy, even from the 3 clubs having the same number of points, namely by collecting 13 points. . I hope that from the three clubs promoted, they will not only pass, but they will provide real competition in the table.

The promoted teams have always difficulties to stay in the league for the first season since their players are weaker and weren't used to play vs professional teams mainly.
Their most important goal is to stay in the league first then to progress in the ranking whenever they consolidate the team with new good players.
Unfortunately for Ajaccio and Auxerre is that they joined Ligue 1 in the hardest season where 4 teams at once will drop to the second league..

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 20, 2022, 06:03:03 AM

PSG consistently gives at least one title a year - Champion of France. Plus, there is also the French Cup, so Messi can easily get titles that will allow him (if I'm not mistaken, he has very little left) to become the most titled player in the world. And in fact, PSG is now higher than the level of Messi, I would say that the club is pulling him and not vice versa. Leaving such a comfortable club to Barcelona in crisis or somewhere else is stupid. The question is whether PSG will be interested in continuing cooperation.

They do not need one title, they need all 6 and that's the issue. Could they end up with all 6? To win the ligue 1, that’s easy, to win the domestic cup? That should be easy, to win UCL? That’s very hard and that’s what they aim every single year, and spending that much money? Owners surely believe they deserve to win UCL at least once. After that is easy, it's domestic super cup, which should be child’s play, to win uefa super cup, to play with europa winner, not as easy but still should be easy, and then club world cup which is hard but still doable.

If we ever see PSG win those all 6 cups, that would be "enough", like not just for one year, but after that they can just win ligue 1 and nothing else for another 10 years and still be happy about the situation.

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Toulouse, AC Ajaccio and Auxerre are clubs that have successfully moved up the ranks to the highest caste in France. However, of the 3 clubs, only Toulouse performed better than the other 2 clubs. Ajaccio and Auxerre are still trying to get out of the red zone they currently occupy. However, it will be a very tight competition at the bottom of the standings because 6 clubs only have one point difference from the position they occupy, even from the 3 clubs having the same number of points, namely by collecting 13 points. . I hope that from the three clubs promoted, they will not only pass, but they will provide real competition in the table.

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Quote from: zuzie on November 20, 2022, 09:03:50 AM

It will be difficult to maintain three star players at the same time, let especially since all three play for the same position, strikers. Offers from several other clubs to be one cause
But we know that Neymar's value is quite high, whether there will be a club other than Paris Saint-Germain willing to spend a lot of money for a player like Neymar, that is still a question mark because several clubs seem to be just interested without further discussion.

PSG has done it in previous seasons maintaining all three star players and the are good at playing their various positions as strikers. If Neymar be willing to leave then the club will have no choice but to let him go. I don't know of any club that can actually afford to keep him at their stadium the very reason he might end up retiring at PSG except he leaves on loan or free transfer.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on November 20, 2022, 06:43:46 AM

Whether Messi will leave PSG cannot be said yet. Because he is busy with the World Cup, his main goal now is the World Cup title. However, he will consider what is available after the World Cup. But I think it wouldn't hurt too much if he stays at PSG.

In fact, if you look at the current conditions, he would be better off at PSG at least to play safely and comfortably while making other decisions about the future of his career.
With him at PSG, actually avoiding a decline in performance because PSG doesn't have too much competition for the domestic league and he can still bring the Trophy even though it's only a Ligue 1 trophy.
In contrast to him leaving because indeed for other leagues even if he is capable but there is no guarantee of being able to bring the Trophy at the end of the season.

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But there could be other repercussions as they continue to fail for the Champions League.
For Mbappe and Messi there may be a little consideration, but it seems not for Neymar because we know that Neymar's condition with PSG is actually not very good from last season and there could be several possibilities regarding his future later, especially if you look at last season there were several clubs who wanted to bring Neymar even though he was hindered by a salary.

For Neymar I do have a hunch that he will move from PSG. As we know, it is rumored that Juventus are interested in bringing Neymar to Allianz Stadium Juventus, apart from that last season he was also rumored to be moving to Chelsea. We'll see what happens to him next season, Although actually I hope he will stay at PSG with Mbappe and Messi.

It will be difficult to maintain three star players at the same time, let especially since all three play for the same position, strikers. Offers from several other clubs to be one cause
But we know that Neymar's value is quite high, whether there will be a club other than Paris Saint-Germain willing to spend a lot of money for a player like Neymar, that is still a question mark because several clubs seem to be just interested without further discussion.

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PSG does not need any more star players in attack. This is why the management of PSG was in a lot of trouble by keeping three big star players like Messi, Neymar and Mbappe in the team. Galtier has just settled the feud between Neymar and Mbappe. Now if PSG again adds any star player to the team then their performance will become unstable. And I guess Galtier doesn't want to destabilize his team now. PSG have a lot of money. It is possible for them to take Ronaldo into the team. But it will adversely affect their performance. So I think the chances of Ronaldo coming to PSG are very low.

For now, maybe PSG doesn't need additional players in attacking line positions, but with speculation about Lionel Messi's future, it is still unclear whether he will stay at PSG or not to take steps to find a replacement player with quality equal to the main player. World cup is quite the right stage for scout talent to look for talented players, I think PSG must take advantage of the world cup moment to at least get a backup player in the attack line.

Clearly PSG have completed at attacking line with Messi, Neymar and Mbappe have consistency scoring goals on every match, but I don't think with Mbappe and Lionel Messi keep extended long time based on many rumor talked them want to leave PSG actually with Mbappe.

Messi is unlikely to stay at PSG. And even if he is with PSG, he doesn't seem to be able to maintain his good form for long. Because they are about 35 now. But we cannot consider Ronaldo as Messi's replacement. Ronaldo is older than Messi. I was saying that Ronaldo is unlikely to join PSG's squad. He will not be able to serve the team for a long time. PSG management should definitely find a replacement for Messi. But I don't think it's possible to find a suitable replacement for Messi.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 19, 2022, 03:36:59 PM

I don't expect PSG's trio to fall apart very soon honestly. They are here for a purpose, to win the Champions League title. I still want to believe that PSG will win this title one way or another. I don't know if they can do it this season but hopefully they will. All the investments into the team shouldn't be for nothing. The Ligue 1 is already too easy for them and there isn't any surprise about their dominating the league. The fans want success in the Champions League as they have Mbappe, Messi and Neymar all here.

I don't expect Messi to leave at the end of the season unless he gets a reasonable offer from Barcelona again. But it doesn't seem likely considering Barcelona's financial condition now.

Their main goal to bring in star players is indeed to win the Champions League title, but before doing that they have to face a team that is as strong as them, even a team that is better in terms of teamwork. What they haven't got until now is a game that combines all the players. Indeed, now this trio has found good chemistry, but they also cannot rely on these 3 players alone, the role of other players is also very important to help them achieve all that is targeted.

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PSG consistently gives at least one title a year - Champion of France. Plus, there is also the French Cup, so Messi can easily get titles that will allow him (if I'm not mistaken, he has very little left) to become the most titled player in the world. And in fact, PSG is now higher than the level of Messi, I would say that the club is pulling him and not vice versa. Leaving such a comfortable club to Barcelona in crisis or somewhere else is stupid. The question is whether PSG will be interested in continuing cooperation.

Although winning titles are good because it helps players have positive mood and Messi is not an exception, Messi actually aims at Champions League, not Ligue 1 or French Cup. He joined PSG after leaving Barcelona because he sees PSG are very strong and competitive for Champions League.

Messi knows that at his old age, he is no longer able to be a hub of one team and in PSG, he will be shared a lot of pressure, responsibility by other star players. Therefore he will have great opportunity to have funny playing time and can contribute his best for PSG.

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I don't expect PSG's trio to fall apart very soon honestly. They are here for a purpose, to win the Champions League title. I still want to believe that PSG will win this title one way or another. I don't know if they can do it this season but hopefully they will. All the investments into the team shouldn't be for nothing. The Ligue 1 is already too easy for them and there isn't any surprise about their dominating the league. The fans want success in the Champions League as they have Mbappe, Messi and Neymar all here.

Why not soon as we saw Mbappe is not actually happy in PSG. He still really want to leave PSG and join Real Madrid. If not Real Madrid and La Liga, maybe he will consider to join Premier League. Generally Ligue 1 is smaller than La Liga and Premier League and Mbappe want to play in big one to increase his chance to win Ballon d'Or, not only Champions League.

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I don't expect Messi to leave at the end of the season unless he gets a reasonable offer from Barcelona again. But it doesn't seem likely considering Barcelona's financial condition now.

It will depend on what he will achieve in this World Cup with Argentina. If Messi wants to play at highest level, he will not leave PSG. If he does not want it, he might leave PSG and Europe to return to Argentina and Newell Old Boys.

Whether Messi will leave PSG cannot be said yet. Because he is busy with the World Cup, his main goal now is the World Cup title. However, he will consider what is available after the World Cup. But I think it wouldn't hurt too much if he stays at PSG.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 20, 2022, 06:03:03 AM

PSG consistently gives at least one title a year - Champion of France. Plus, there is also the French Cup, so Messi can easily get titles that will allow him (if I'm not mistaken, he has very little left) to become the most titled player in the world. And in fact, PSG is now higher than the level of Messi, I would say that the club is pulling him and not vice versa. Leaving such a comfortable club to Barcelona in crisis or somewhere else is stupid. The question is whether PSG will be interested in continuing cooperation.

Although winning titles are good because it helps players have positive mood and Messi is not an exception, Messi actually aims at Champions League, not Ligue 1 or French Cup. He joined PSG after leaving Barcelona because he sees PSG are very strong and competitive for Champions League.

Messi knows that at his old age, he is no longer able to be a hub of one team and in PSG, he will be shared a lot of pressure, responsibility by other star players. Therefore he will have great opportunity to have funny playing time and can contribute his best for PSG.

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 19, 2022, 03:36:59 PM

I don't expect PSG's trio to fall apart very soon honestly. They are here for a purpose, to win the Champions League title. I still want to believe that PSG will win this title one way or another. I don't know if they can do it this season but hopefully they will. All the investments into the team shouldn't be for nothing. The Ligue 1 is already too easy for them and there isn't any surprise about their dominating the league. The fans want success in the Champions League as they have Mbappe, Messi and Neymar all here.

Why not soon as we saw Mbappe is not actually happy in PSG. He still really want to leave PSG and join Real Madrid. If not Real Madrid and La Liga, maybe he will consider to join Premier League. Generally Ligue 1 is smaller than La Liga and Premier League and Mbappe want to play in big one to increase his chance to win Ballon d'Or, not only Champions League.

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I don't expect Messi to leave at the end of the season unless he gets a reasonable offer from Barcelona again. But it doesn't seem likely considering Barcelona's financial condition now.

It will depend on what he will achieve in this World Cup with Argentina. If Messi wants to play at highest level, he will not leave PSG. If he does not want it, he might leave PSG and Europe to return to Argentina and Newell Old Boys.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on November 19, 2022, 05:01:59 PM

Honestly, we have heard a lot of promises from PSG before as well. But they have never lived up to their expectations.

In the last season, PSG also had shown some great promises with a great squad. But the problem is they did not do anything. Well, they did the win league title which is not an achievement at all.

So, I have actually lost my trust in PSG. And Lionel Messi has very little time left in his career. So, I don’t see why he would stay in PSG and basically waste his time when he cannot win anything with this team. A senior player is supposed to be angry at the team management when they are giving a kid more powers and authority which is not good for any team at all.

PSG consistently gives at least one title a year - Champion of France. Plus, there is also the French Cup, so Messi can easily get titles that will allow him (if I'm not mistaken, he has very little left) to become the most titled player in the world. And in fact, PSG is now higher than the level of Messi, I would say that the club is pulling him and not vice versa. Leaving such a comfortable club to Barcelona in crisis or somewhere else is stupid. The question is whether PSG will be interested in continuing cooperation.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 19, 2022, 03:36:59 PM

I don't expect PSG's trio to fall apart very soon honestly. They are here for a purpose, to win the Champions League title. I still want to believe that PSG will win this title one way or another. I don't know if they can do it this season but hopefully they will. All the investments into the team shouldn't be for nothing. The Ligue 1 is already too easy for them and there isn't any surprise about their dominating the league. The fans want success in the Champions League as they have Mbappe, Messi and Neymar all here.

I don't expect Messi to leave at the end of the season unless he gets a reasonable offer from Barcelona again. But it doesn't seem likely considering Barcelona's financial condition now.

PSG and its trio is surely having just one purpose, and it's clear from Messi's arrival from Barcelona to PSG, and they are doing their best from first day which is having not good result for them but still they are doing their best which mean they can achieve this because now their trio is already having good combination which is giving them positive results and now after three months they are going to face Bayern Munich which is also one of the best in business and their recent record is also having all details about their strength and aims.

But, here now we have to praise PSG which is having few edges against their opponents even in last few matches in Champions League they fail to keep their momentum, but hopefully things could be positive, and they could be able to have better results in this season which will give them better return of this positive development.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on November 19, 2022, 03:36:59 PM

I don't expect PSG's trio to fall apart very soon honestly. They are here for a purpose, to win the Champions League title. I still want to believe that PSG will win this title one way or another. I don't know if they can do it this season but hopefully they will. All the investments into the team shouldn't be for nothing. The Ligue 1 is already too easy for them and there isn't any surprise about their dominating the league. The fans want success in the Champions League as they have Mbappe, Messi and Neymar all here.

I don't expect Messi to leave at the end of the season unless he gets a reasonable offer from Barcelona again. But it doesn't seem likely considering Barcelona's financial condition now.

Honestly, we have heard a lot of promises from PSG before as well. But they have never lived up to their expectations.

In the last season, PSG also had shown some great promises with a great squad. But the problem is they did not do anything. Well, they did the win league title which is not an achievement at all.

So, I have actually lost my trust in PSG. And Lionel Messi has very little time left in his career. So, I don’t see why he would stay in PSG and basically waste his time when he cannot win anything with this team. A senior player is supposed to be angry at the team management when they are giving a kid more powers and authority which is not good for any team at all.

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I don't expect PSG's trio to fall apart very soon honestly. They are here for a purpose, to win the Champions League title. I still want to believe that PSG will win this title one way or another. I don't know if they can do it this season but hopefully they will. All the investments into the team shouldn't be for nothing. The Ligue 1 is already too easy for them and there isn't any surprise about their dominating the league. The fans want success in the Champions League as they have Mbappe, Messi and Neymar all here.

I don't expect Messi to leave at the end of the season unless he gets a reasonable offer from Barcelona again. But it doesn't seem likely considering Barcelona's financial condition now.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 19, 2022, 06:41:11 AM

After failing in the Champions League, Igor Tudor will automatically focus his troops more on concentrating on Ligue 1. Marseille has time to rest its players, as well as rebuild performance and mentality which had dropped after carrying out a series of busy schedules in various competitions.

With the league paused due to the world cup event, at least Marseille has the opportunity to fix the weaknesses of its troops and prepare the energy to carry out the league after being rolled out again. I am optimistic, Marseille can perform even better after the world cup ends.

on the other hand, Lens is the only strong obstacle to fighting for a place in the 2nd position of the Ligue 1 standings. So far, their performances have been very impressive. it's just that, after this world cup is over. Lens will have tough matches, in particular they will meet PSG later. if Lens slips, losing full points will be an advantage for the team below their ranking, including Marseille which will reduce the gap in points between them. so, the competition for the Ligue 1 runner up is still very wide open.

Not like they had to focus on UCL too much if you ask me, they are not a great team to win it all, which means the best they were hoping for would be go as far as you can and eventually lose. Instead of doing, if they can focus on being second every single year, like build a team that would be "clear" second best team, no doubt remaining, that means they will make a ton of money from both the league and also from UCL each year and players will want to come there to play in UCL every year.

How many teams in the world played in UCL group stages without ever missing it in the past 10 years? Maybe like a dozen of them? I do not know but not a ton, most miss it once or twice, be the team that does it for France along with PSG.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 19, 2022, 06:41:11 AM

After failing in the Champions League, Igor Tudor will automatically focus his troops more on concentrating on Ligue 1. Marseille has time to rest its players, as well as rebuild performance and mentality which had dropped after carrying out a series of busy schedules in various competitions.

With the league paused due to the world cup event, at least Marseille has the opportunity to fix the weaknesses of its troops and prepare the energy to carry out the league after being rolled out again. I am optimistic, Marseille can perform even better after the world cup ends.

on the other hand, Lens is the only strong obstacle to fighting for a place in the 2nd position of the Ligue 1 standings. So far, their performances have been very impressive. it's just that, after this world cup is over. Lens will have tough matches, in particular they will meet PSG later. if Lens slips, losing full points will be an advantage for the team below their ranking, including Marseille which will reduce the gap in points between them. so, the competition for the Ligue 1 runner up is still very wide open.

Due to Champions League Marseille were having hard pressure so which was surely having big impact on their performance in Ligue 1 as well but now after their exit their concentration is all on here which is surely going to have big impact even now competition is not easy because Monaco, Marseille, Rennes and Lens all are fighting and have equal chance, but Marseille is surely better side which have good experienced and quality players which can give them.

French League is surely on development even we have no challenge for PSG but for other top spots few teams are giving their best and trying to improve quality which will give them good benefit specially teams like Monaco and Marseille having good chance but sadly Lille, Nice and Lyon these are slipping which is not normal for them.

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