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Quote from: bekti3 on November 16, 2022, 03:24:43 PM

Obviously this will be a blow that hurts again and silences PSG fans who always say they can go further in the Champions League.
The last 2 seasons they have always been in second place in the group phase and for the knockout phase always facing a team that can be said to be a champion candidate is definitely a burden for them.
But indeed, if they fail again, this will surely become a subject of ridicule again.

Right now this all is too early who is going home after this round of 16 because PSG is also doing good work for their progress and their results are improving which is positive development for them even Bayern is one of the toughest teams in UEFA but still they are beatable and PSG with his current strength can do magic in this round which could be the biggest success for them even still they have to do hard work for reaching out into last four, but we can expect good match between two teams which are coming from same level league and same level environment as both are dominating in their leagues.

There is no doubt if in this season we have no positive results in knock out rounds from PSG then surely we can expect good changes even we can expect change of management because current owners are having dream of winning Champions League and right now they are looking for this otherwise they can sell this club after end of this season.

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Quote from: ShowOff on November 16, 2022, 03:32:13 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 16, 2022, 08:28:04 AM

It will be interesting to see how PSG play after (hopefully) they are sent home from the Champions League by Bayern. For many PSG players (Mbappe, for example), this will be a severe psychological blow and, in fact, the end of the season. The paradox is that there will be many games ahead in Ligue 1 and maybe PSG will perform much worse in this scenario. It is hard to believe that any of the opponents will be able to take advantage of this opportunity, but in theory why not.

Hahaha, I don't think PSG is so bad this season mate. We know the statistics of these two teams and can probably determine which one deserves to go through, so the scenario may never be the same as we think now.

Neymar, Mbappe, Messi are great strikers this season with good performances. They have scored as many goals 16 goals during the group stage as a team and for now Mbappe is still the top scorer in the Champions League with his 7 goals. PSG will be weak if the defense is bad, but this season their defense seems good enough to rely on.

I agreed with you in this season we have some positive development in this team PSG even their two back to back draw matches are looking for few answers but still they can do good fight against Bayern Munich which is surely currently in the best shape after having few bad matches in Bundesliga their performance in Champions League is at their best but now this three months break can bring good changes in both teams which is surely going to have good impact on performance in knock out rounds.

Neymar and Messi are surely doing amazing job with Mbappé is also at his best, but his childish behaviour is surely creating problems for himself he needs to do change if he wants to be one of the best in current generation because this is also important for good performance.

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Quote from: izsara on November 16, 2022, 06:52:13 PM

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 16, 2022, 08:28:04 AM

It will be interesting to see how PSG play after (hopefully) they are sent home from the Champions League by Bayern. For many PSG players (Mbappe, for example), this will be a severe psychological blow and, in fact, the end of the season. The paradox is that there will be many games ahead in Ligue 1 and maybe PSG will perform much worse in this scenario. It is hard to believe that any of the opponents will be able to take advantage of this opportunity, but in theory why not.

Hahaha, I don't think PSG is so bad this season mate. We know the statistics of these two teams and can probably determine which one deserves to go through, so the scenario may never be the same as we think now.

Neymar, Mbappe, Messi are great strikers this season with good performances. They have scored as many goals 16 goals during the group stage as a team and for now Mbappe is still the top scorer in the Champions League with his 7 goals. PSG will be weak if the defense is bad, but this season their defense seems good enough to rely on.

But indeed, on the other hand, experience will also be a bit decisive now and if you look at that, of course, Bayern is much better.
Last season PSG lost to Madrid, one of the main reasons was because their experience was not very good in the Champions League. It's not impossible now too, especially in terms of statistics during the group phase they also lost when compared to Bayern.

@KTChampions assuming a hypothetical scenario where PSG is eliminated, then too I don’t expect them to lose too many games and surrender the league title. Furthermore in that scenario PSG board will sack the coach at the end of the season and with Tuchel available it’s always a possibility, however personally I expect PSG to top and win the league irrespective of their champions league result.

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Quote from: ShowOff on November 16, 2022, 03:32:13 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on November 16, 2022, 08:28:04 AM

It will be interesting to see how PSG play after (hopefully) they are sent home from the Champions League by Bayern. For many PSG players (Mbappe, for example), this will be a severe psychological blow and, in fact, the end of the season. The paradox is that there will be many games ahead in Ligue 1 and maybe PSG will perform much worse in this scenario. It is hard to believe that any of the opponents will be able to take advantage of this opportunity, but in theory why not.

Hahaha, I don't think PSG is so bad this season mate. We know the statistics of these two teams and can probably determine which one deserves to go through, so the scenario may never be the same as we think now.

Neymar, Mbappe, Messi are great strikers this season with good performances. They have scored as many goals 16 goals during the group stage as a team and for now Mbappe is still the top scorer in the Champions League with his 7 goals. PSG will be weak if the defense is bad, but this season their defense seems good enough to rely on.

But indeed, on the other hand, experience will also be a bit decisive now and if you look at that, of course, Bayern is much better.
Last season PSG lost to Madrid, one of the main reasons was because their experience was not very good in the Champions League. It's not impossible now too, especially in terms of statistics during the group phase they also lost when compared to Bayern.

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Quote from: Raflesia on November 16, 2022, 04:46:24 PM

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 16, 2022, 07:53:59 AM

This season, Messi has performed well compared to Ronaldo. he has always been a determining factor in SPG's victory, even though he didn't always score. his contribution as a playmaker has made SPG too strong for their opponents in Ligue 1. he is a smart player, even though he is no longer young. however, the talent he had did not disappear. currently all leagues have stopped due to the world cup break, and I hope Messi will give his best game with Argentina in the world cup championship later.

Compare to himself first, he actually has better performance than what he did in the past season. Compares to Ronaldo, Messi have better appearances and better performance than Ronaldo. It lasts from clubs to national teams for two players. This season is totally disappointed for Ronaldo but he still has World Cup to fight.

In this case, I personally don't really feel this is good enough if I'm still comparing the 2 goats now. In terms of competition it is clear that Ligue 1 is more comfortable, on the other hand the conditions of Ronaldo and Messi at the club are also very different.
In this case, they can still be said to be rivals, but the current conditions are not very suitable to compare these two players, especially since they are in 2 different leagues.

I agree with you. Comparison between Messi and Ronaldo should not be made now. Firstly they are now playing in two different leagues. The Premier League is very competitive, while in Ligue 1 we only see PSG dominate. Also, Messi is the main player in the squad at PSG, on the other hand, Ten Hag is not interested in keeping Ronaldo in the squad now. He was forced to keep Ronaldo in the squad, possibly under pressure from the management. And so now the comparison between Messi and Ronaldo should not be made.

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Quote from: OcTradism on November 16, 2022, 08:31:55 AM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on November 16, 2022, 07:53:59 AM

This season, Messi has performed well compared to Ronaldo. he has always been a determining factor in SPG's victory, even though he didn't always score. his contribution as a playmaker has made SPG too strong for their opponents in Ligue 1. he is a smart player, even though he is no longer young. however, the talent he had did not disappear. currently all leagues have stopped due to the world cup break, and I hope Messi will give his best game with Argentina in the world cup championship later.

Compare to himself first, he actually has better performance than what he did in the past season. Compares to Ronaldo, Messi have better appearances and better performance than Ronaldo. It lasts from clubs to national teams for two players. This season is totally disappointed for Ronaldo but he still has World Cup to fight.

In this case, I personally don't really feel this is good enough if I'm still comparing the 2 goats now. In terms of competition it is clear that Ligue 1 is more comfortable, on the other hand the conditions of Ronaldo and Messi at the club are also very different.
In this case, they can still be said to be rivals, but the current conditions are not very suitable to compare these two players, especially since they are in 2 different leagues.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 16, 2022, 08:28:04 AM

It will be interesting to see how PSG play after (hopefully) they are sent home from the Champions League by Bayern. For many PSG players (Mbappe, for example), this will be a severe psychological blow and, in fact, the end of the season. The paradox is that there will be many games ahead in Ligue 1 and maybe PSG will perform much worse in this scenario. It is hard to believe that any of the opponents will be able to take advantage of this opportunity, but in theory why not.

Hahaha, I don't think PSG is so bad this season mate. We know the statistics of these two teams and can probably determine which one deserves to go through, so the scenario may never be the same as we think now.

Neymar, Mbappe, Messi are great strikers this season with good performances. They have scored as many goals 16 goals during the group stage as a team and for now Mbappe is still the top scorer in the Champions League with his 7 goals. PSG will be weak if the defense is bad, but this season their defense seems good enough to rely on.

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Quote from: rozak on November 15, 2022, 02:59:31 AM

there are no problems for PSG this season. they continue to win big and keep on top of the standings. PSG's focus I think is no longer on Ligue 1. they always dream of the Champions League trophy. and they will not let go of the opportunity.
Lens is not a threat to PSG. they have good points, but if PSG always wins consistently. Lens will not stand a chance.

It will be interesting to see how PSG play after (hopefully) they are sent home from the Champions League by Bayern. For many PSG players (Mbappe, for example), this will be a severe psychological blow and, in fact, the end of the season. The paradox is that there will be many games ahead in Ligue 1 and maybe PSG will perform much worse in this scenario. It is hard to believe that any of the opponents will be able to take advantage of this opportunity, but in theory why not.

Obviously this will be a blow that hurts again and silences PSG fans who always say they can go further in the Champions League.
The last 2 seasons they have always been in second place in the group phase and for the knockout phase always facing a team that can be said to be a champion candidate is definitely a burden for them.
But indeed, if they fail again, this will surely become a subject of ridicule again.

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I agree with the people who find the Ligue 1 not very intriguing. Because it is just a league dominated by PSG for years above all else.

However we are still able to watch really nice games between the other teams as well. Like games with many goals in it. Besides, I'm watching the league sometimes just for the sake of PSG's great trio of Mbappe, Messi and Neymar. When all of them are in the field and showing solid performances, the games are much more watchable. Apart from that, the boring part is that there is no proper title race between PSG and some other team most of the time.

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Funny how Mbappe, Messi and Neymar were substituted at the same time in the last game. A private jet was reportedly ready for Neymar to travel to Qatar. That's what you get with such statuses. But about the game, at that point they were leading 3-0 and the game had been played long and wide. And PSG seem to be in better shape than ever before. Also nice for those players that they will start the World Cup with that form. There is a very good chance that they will face each other. Would that still have an influence if they start again in the competition? At the World Cup, of course, they are all enemies of each other.

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Quote from: Warkop on November 16, 2022, 02:24:49 AM

To be honest, I'm not that interested in the French league (Ligue 1) because what we know is that PSG will always be a club that has been confirmed as a champion in the League (Ligue 1), even though several clubs (Ligue 1) have the ability to surpass PSG but when PSG bring in several of his star players last year, it made it difficult for all clubs to face PSG, because since Sergio Ramos, Gianluigi Donnarumma, Achraf Hakimi and Lionel Messi, were brought in by PSG to make the defense even stronger and sharper for PSG's attackers and defense, this is what creates a silhouette for all Clubs (Ligue 1) to balance PSG's game, only outside clubs can balance PSG's pattern of play, because of the several matches that brought PSG together with Bayern Munich in the last 16 of the Champions League, in my opinion this is a comparable opponent for PSG to face rather than the team team (Ligue 1), not intending to belittle the club (Ligue 1), but seeing the reality in the current standings, it is proof, this imbalance in (Ligue 1)..

You could have 2 different reasons why you could be interested in ligue 1 and watch the games there. First of all we all know that PSG will be the one that will win it, that’s true, but you do not know who would be the second or third, so you could watch to see who will be the "best or the rest" type of deal and that could be understandable.

Secondly you could watch because PSG sometimes loses, it's rare but it could happen and at that point you could just watch to see which games those losses would be and you could hope that you could wager at the smart time and hope that you could hit the losses on the head and make a lot of money from PSG losses, rare but profitable.

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Quote from: Xxmodded on November 16, 2022, 10:40:46 AM

Bayern have quite performance than PSG at champion league in this season, Bayern won 6 matches and PSG only won 4 match and 2 draw have settled at 2nd position and meet with Bayern on 16 round,

It would be very interesting if this season PSG managed to bring Bayern Munich back to the Bundesliga. I don't believe PSG will be so weak compared to Bayern Munich this season even though Bayern Munich has actually proven its worth in the group stage. I think PSG's defense is well prepared to thwart Bayern Munich this season and Mbappe will destroy the arrogance of those who underestimate them so easily.

It's clear to me that no one really knows who will qualify from the last 16, and both teams currently have a chance to beat their opponents. I'm support PSG to qualify because I don't really know why Bayern Munich deserve favorites over PSG.

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The victory in the group phase actually doesn't really matter in my opinion, regardless of whether they manage to win overall or fail in several matches in the group phase, it doesn't matter too much because the match is determined whether they are capable or not.
If indeed things like victory were used as a benchmark in the group phase maybe last season Madrid would not have won.
They are both big clubs and now it depends on how the coach plans and I'm looking forward to this match especially I've only seen them play once in 2018 and that's been too long considering the current squad is completely different.

But that can be one of the factors for us to analyze and predict their next match. Because the results of their matches will not be separated from their own game which causes them to win or lose in one game. And I think most of us will use that as our basis for predicting whether or not they deserve to be able to win and qualify for the group phase or round of the last 16. Indeed, that doesn't guarantee that it will actually happen, because the outcome of the match will be determined by their game at that time, but that could be an illustration of whether or not they can play well, reflecting on the previous match.

Even though in this match PSG are in 2nd place but we also know in terms of points and number of goals with Benfica they are still balanced, it's just that the quality of Benfica's goals is more that makes them in first place.
The problem for PSG may still be in the defense because they are a bit disturbed in the Champions League there even though their attack line has.
The statistics look at the clear win rate Bayern are superior to but when looking at it in terms of sporadic and fast attacks I personally prefer to see PSG with the record that they are not too selfish for the attackers.

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Quote from: AakZaki on November 16, 2022, 12:08:36 PM

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When talking about Messi, so far he is doing good than Ronaldo, and I hope they got in what his dream is on the National team. But, sometimes Messi looks childish, and sometimes that trait is still attached on the field which makes all squad will follow him. This is the last event for him, all fans hope Messi brings the cup to the Argentine, that only one he can't get from all achievements on football.

So far Messi has chosen the right club. The PSG coach really understands their character. So they are able to take advantage of Messi at an old age. Even Messi is now the choice of PSG coach along with Neymar and Mbappe. Besides that, the players seemed to welcome Messi with pleasure. But I heard that Man United are ready to offer Mbappe to replace Ronaldo, who is ready to leave this winter. If he left, of course it would be very detrimental.

Messi is old enough. Yet Galtier still likes Messi. And he helped to adapt to the team and strategy. And so Messi continues to perform consistently well. He is playing very well. And right now the most valuable player in Ligue 1 is Messi. On the other hand, Ronaldo's relationship with Ten Hag is not good. He does not allow an experienced player like Ronaldo in his squad. Now an experienced coach should never do this. Ten Hag should use Ronaldo's experience to improve their overall performance. But Ten Hag is stubborn, so he doesn't want to keep Ronaldo with the squad.

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Quote from: Luzin on November 16, 2022, 09:13:52 AM

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PSG is strong but is Bayern Munich - their opponent - weak or weaker than PSG?

At this time, Munich's strength is better a little bit. I guess Munich can win by 2-0 if they face PSG. The experience of Munich players is more if they compete in the UCL.
Indeed PSG continue to try to break the UCL's string of poor results. Since the arrival of Neymar, Mbappe and Messi they have always failed to win. In 2020 they made it to Final but lost to Munich. It seems like they've always been unlucky at UCL.

Even when Bayer Munich struggled in their league, they were strong in the UCL and never dropped a match until they advanced through the group stage. The two teams currently have gaps, and I believe that these gaps are what maybe they will use to find victory, just like Munich. Of course they will try to carry out attacks effectively considering that PSG defense is not powerful enough, but Bayern Munich should still be wary of PSG attack line which is quite complex by relying on the trio of Messi, Mbappe, and Neymar. So, I believe PSG will be able to defeat Munich with a lot of goals.

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Quote from: blue Snow on November 15, 2022, 09:36:46 PM

When talking about Messi, so far he is doing good than Ronaldo, and I hope they got in what his dream is on the National team. But, sometimes Messi looks childish, and sometimes that trait is still attached on the field which makes all squad will follow him. This is the last event for him, all fans hope Messi brings the cup to the Argentine, that only one he can't get from all achievements on football.

So far Messi has chosen the right club. The PSG coach really understands their character. So they are able to take advantage of Messi at an old age. Even Messi is now the choice of PSG coach along with Neymar and Mbappe. Besides that, the players seemed to welcome Messi with pleasure. But I heard that Man United are ready to offer Mbappe to replace Ronaldo, who is ready to leave this winter. If he left, of course it would be very detrimental.

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Quote from: fachant on November 16, 2022, 09:41:40 AM

I don't know which team will win, but PSG's attack is a hundred times better than Bayern Munich's attack. Messi and Neymar and Mbappe no one can imagine what kind of attacking they can do. However, PSG have some defensive problems that make it very difficult to win matches. But hopefully we will enjoy the match.

The number of star players in a team also does not guarantee that the team can win easily when facing a strong team like Bayern Munich, because Bayern Munich's counterattack is also better in every game they have ever played. And when there are two big teams competing in a competition, the first thing that must be seen is the cooperation and cohesiveness of the players to give the best performance in order to win the match.

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Quote from: herurist on November 16, 2022, 11:09:28 AM

The victory in the group phase actually doesn't really matter in my opinion, regardless of whether they manage to win overall or fail in several matches in the group phase, it doesn't matter too much because the match is determined whether they are capable or not.
If indeed things like victory were used as a benchmark in the group phase maybe last season Madrid would not have won.
They are both big clubs and now it depends on how the coach plans and I'm looking forward to this match especially I've only seen them play once in 2018 and that's been too long considering the current squad is completely different.

But that can be one of the factors for us to analyze and predict their next match. Because the results of their matches will not be separated from their own game which causes them to win or lose in one game. And I think most of us will use that as our basis for predicting whether or not they deserve to be able to win and qualify for the group phase or round of the last 16. Indeed, that doesn't guarantee that it will actually happen, because the outcome of the match will be determined by their game at that time, but that could be an illustration of whether or not they can play well, reflecting on the previous match.

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Quote from: OcTradism on November 16, 2022, 08:31:55 AM

Bayern is weaker than a few seasons ago when they won Champions League but they are at same level of PSG. I can not pick what team will win after two matches. Maybe I don't make any prediction here, just wait for their matches and enjoy.

Bayern have quite performance than PSG at champion league in this season, Bayern won 6 matches and PSG only won 4 match and 2 draw have settled at 2nd position and meet with Bayern on 16 round, will get different opponent for next round if PSG can beaten Benfica and lead standing position.

The victory in the group phase actually doesn't really matter in my opinion, regardless of whether they manage to win overall or fail in several matches in the group phase, it doesn't matter too much because the match is determined whether they are capable or not.
If indeed things like victory were used as a benchmark in the group phase maybe last season Madrid would not have won.
They are both big clubs and now it depends on how the coach plans and I'm looking forward to this match especially I've only seen them play once in 2018 and that's been too long considering the current squad is completely different.

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Quote from: KTChampions on November 16, 2022, 08:28:04 AM

Quote from: rozak on November 15, 2022, 02:59:31 AM

there are no problems for PSG this season. they continue to win big and keep on top of the standings. PSG's focus I think is no longer on Ligue 1. they always dream of the Champions League trophy. and they will not let go of the opportunity.
Lens is not a threat to PSG. they have good points, but if PSG always wins consistently. Lens will not stand a chance.

It will be interesting to see how PSG play after (hopefully) they are sent home from the Champions League by Bayern. For many PSG players (Mbappe, for example), this will be a severe psychological blow and, in fact, the end of the season. The paradox is that there will be many games ahead in Ligue 1 and maybe PSG will perform much worse in this scenario. It is hard to believe that any of the opponents will be able to take advantage of this opportunity, but in theory why not.

Yes, there really isn't a problem, but I think it's interesting when you say with confidence that PSG will be sent home by Bayern Munich. But indeed, PSG's not-so-perfect performance in the group stage in the Champions League is a job that Christophe Galtier has not been able to overcome.
But for Bayern Munich, they got the perfect result and in fact, the two teams in the Bayern Munich group are two big teams. At least, on paper to get results without losing and drawing, is a difficult job but Bayern Munich managed to get it.

With these results, at least PSG doesn't have many chances to qualify, but if PSG have found comfort at the top of the standings in Ligue 1.
So, maybe PSG will be able to focus more on being able to play even better in the Champions League, because to get the expected achievements will not be easy and they must be able to make more efforts than usual.

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