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legendary
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March 22, 2017, 04:19:09 PM
I know of a situation in Africa in which after the children were vaccinated against polio, the vaccine which was supposed to cure polio ended making the children that were vaccinated being crippled rather.
I am not sure how to respond to this ,may be they have provided fake vaccines or low quality medicine,if it is properly managed and developed under strict government regulation vaccines are used to cure rather than crippling and i have not heard about it in my county,may be because they are superior when it comes to medicine.

It's hardly uncommon to tailor vaccines to a country based on the particular 'needs' of the country in question

https://www.pop.org/content/bad-blood-philippines

From: http://www.zebrafactcheck.com/did-kissinger-call-depopulation-a-priority/
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We did not find an attribution for the whole quotation. But when we broke the quotation into pieces we found a big hunk in NSSM 200, also known as “Implications of Worldwide Population Growth For U.S. Security and Overseas Interests (THE KISSINGER REPORT).” NSSM stands for “National Security Study Memorandum.” The government document was published in 1974 and made public in 1980.
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Whatever may be done to guard against interruptions of supply and to develop domestic alternatives, the U.S. economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries. That fact gives the U.S. enhanced interest in the political, economic, and social stability of the supplying countries. Wherever a lessening of population pressures through reduced birth rates can increase the prospects for such stability, population policy becomes relevant to resource supplies and to the economic interests  of the United States.

I'm all for good-faith efforts to help others with their problems, but when the driving force is to help one's crony friends and sponsors make more money it is totally reasonable to expect the programs and implementation to be unethical.

To this day all U.S. presidents regularly make the pilgrimage to kiss Henry Kissinger's ring.  Including Trump so it seems, though it would be awfully interesting to be a fly on the wall.

People who will risk their kid's well-being on the assumption that they are 'western' and thus immune from the machinations of the likes of Kissinger, Gates, and Merck probably deserve what they get.  From my perspective, the problem with these people is that they are likely to be holding the guns which force others into taking the same crap-shoot with their own kids.

full member
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March 22, 2017, 03:05:35 PM
I know of a situation in Africa in which after the children were vaccinated against polio, the vaccine which was supposed to cure polio ended making the children that were vaccinated being crippled rather.
I am not sure how to respond to this ,may be they have provided fake vaccines or low quality medicine,if it is properly managed and developed under strict government regulation vaccines are used to cure rather than crippling and i have not heard about it in my county,may be because they are superior when it comes to medicine.
newbie
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March 22, 2017, 02:07:44 PM
Vaccinations are absolutely necessary.
As with any medical product, there are also possible side effects, which can have serious consequences in individual cases. Nevertheless vaccinations are more useful than harmful. If you do not vaccinate yourself or your child, you will only benefit from herd immunity in a vaccinated society. I do not know if the government should carry out forced vaccinations, but vaccinations against serious diseases should be made for your own safety.
As an example, thousands of people, especially children in Africa and Asia (India), could be saved every year if they had a rabies vaccine available.
legendary
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March 22, 2017, 01:43:25 PM

No more effective means than vaccination at this time did not come up. I am sure that vaccination is needed. Before something to cancel you need to come up with an alternative.

What about an immune system?  It got us this far.  The relatively recent invention of drinking clean water and washing the shit off one's hands occasionally turned our native immune systems from being a satisfactory solution to one which serves with remarkable effectiveness.  Looking at the infection rate profiles of a lot of the 'vaccine preventable diseases' seem to indicate that vaccination may have had no effect whatsoever and lifestyle changes did it all.

If anything we need MORE disease to limit population growth.  Further, the right kinds of disease or impairment can produce significant advantages from a political and economic perspective, and designing other social control infrastructure around it can multiply the effect by orders of magnitude.  Looking at things through this lens makes a lot of observations fall neatly into place.

BTW, David Rockefeller, who's dynasty got it's start selling snake oil medical cures, died a few days ago.  Some posit that we will shift to a new dynasty with Bill Gates at it's head.  For my part I'll be watching with interest.

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March 22, 2017, 01:14:14 PM
No more effective means than vaccination at this time did not come up. I am sure that vaccination is needed. Before something to cancel you need to come up with an alternative.
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March 22, 2017, 01:01:59 PM
I know of a situation in Africa in which after the children were vaccinated against polio, the vaccine which was supposed to cure polio ended making the children that were vaccinated being crippled rather.
legendary
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March 22, 2017, 11:54:41 AM

  "Only the small secrets need to be protected.
   The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity.
"

        --- Marshall McLuhan


My two special friends that can see through all the world wide conspiracies of the modern dark age.
Connecting all that secret links of the big puzzle into one wonderful conspiracy which everyone can understand.
How can humanity just not realise that we have another einstein and hawking here?!

Lol

 Cheesy

Careful about santa on christmas - i read that he is actually a secret moon nazi. Grin

s/moon /Ashken/ perhaps?

Spurred in part by the pedogate stuff which likely involves a fair number of our politicians, I got to trying to sort out the various esoterica that a lot of peeps seem to be impacted by.  Talmudic law, Kabbalah, Thelema, Freemasonry, Catholicism, etc.

  Santa Klaus --> Satan Claws

I mean you have some creepy old weirdo who lives past the edge of nowhere doing God knows what with a bunch of stunted freaks.  He spends most of the year spying on kids and logging their activities (like the NSA) and on a specially prescribed day he sneaks out and breaks into their houses.  If offerings are left he might leave without doing any terrible harm.

The old creep spends a lot of time trying to get kids to sit on his lap.  He wears a red outfit which may have significance to those who like smear kids blood on themselves as the kid bleeds out.

On a more down-to-earth level, the whole Santa Klaus thing teaches a fairly important lesson to some.  Namely, 'authority figures lie like crazy.'  At least it did in my case.  I remember back to about age three, and I remember being pretty dubious about the whole thing even by that time.  I liked the candy canes though since my sweet-tooth was still active.

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March 22, 2017, 09:07:22 AM
Everyone decides to do it or not. Well, I have not seen anything bad from vaccinations, except that we do not suffer from those diseases from which we vaccinated.
legendary
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December 22, 2016, 12:07:25 PM

I would call them the 'pharmaceutical company executive' and 'useful idiots' (e.g., criptix, sithara007, etc.)

I am not on the payroll of any pharmaceutical company. I just want normal human beings to use modern medicine, so that they live longer and healthier. On the other hand, your behavior was very disappointing.

You snipped the important part:

 - pharma execs == morlock
 - useful idiots == eloi

If you have a well trained horse it will comply with your commands at the reigns and often enough will anticipate your desires on it's own.  Like stop and turn at the end of the row that was just plowed.

If you team a well trained horse with a poorly trained one, the well trained one will sometimes discipline the poorly behaving one on it's own.  Like reach over and bite it when it's doing something which is known by the trained one to be against the wishes of the master.  It doesn't even need to be trained to exhibit this behavior.

I'm not accusing you of being 'on the payroll' per-se.

I am saying that it is a big mistake to assume or take in faith without thinking that things are either 'all good' or 'all bad'.  There is nothing in logic which would preclude some modern medicine from being used for 'good' purposes and others to be used for 'bad' purposes.

Beyond that, 'good' and 'bad' are themselves subjective terms which mean different things to different people.  It can be argued that achieving and maintaining 'sustainable' human population levels is, for all intents and purposes, 'doing God's work'.  I can also be argued 'why not make a dime off doing God's work?'...Especially if one is endowed with a more sophisticated ethical framework than the average bear.

legendary
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December 22, 2016, 11:47:46 AM

You know what they say. Yes, we're all cattle. But many are sheeple too. I'm totally tired of explaining unexplainable to brainwashees who think state and pharmaceutical mafia have any kind of positive intent. People, for the sake of humanity, you need to open your eyes and your minds. Internet, which is mainly uncensored when you read not just mainstream news is great source of information. There are countless studies and countless interviews with insiders that confitm negative impact of vaccination, and it's not just the vaccination. We're living in a world where policies are made by elite and corporations and it goes deeply covering every aspect of living.

Here's a little handbook about most obvious conspiracies that are actually praxis, but many people won't believe it because it sounds too weird to be true.

1) 9/11 was a false flag operation which was good excuse for war games in Middle East, capturing oil fields and heroin production. Osama Bin Laden is most probably alive, there was a whole circus with his capture, why didn't they show him?
2) Vaccination is part of population control policy, spreading diseases through it.
...

  "Only the small secrets need to be protected.
   The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity.
"

        --- Marshall McLuhan



My two special friends that can see through all the world wide conspiracies of the modern dark age.
Connecting all that secret links of the big puzzle into one wonderful conspiracy which everyone can understand.
How can humanity just not realise that we have another einstein and hawking here?!

Lol

 Cheesy

Careful about santa on christmas - i read that he is actually a secret moon nazi. Grin
newbie
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Merit: 0
December 22, 2016, 11:44:12 AM
Reminds me of those horror tales about people getting government approved and paid for 'Flu' jabs

Enter the Twilight zone !
full member
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December 22, 2016, 11:37:54 AM
 "Only the small secrets need to be protected.
   The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity.
"
        --- Marshall McLuhan

So weird, but so true. That's just illustrates the dark ages we live in. Forget Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Idiotism... they're all deceptions. Remember, Modern Slavery is the system we live in and you're changing nothing by going to elections. You just think you're changing because it's lovely to have sense you have some (fake) power.
The world is ruled by clans which transmit power from one clan to others. A simple man cannot lead the country. If this system is not broken, the world is doomed to a clan fight. Who is sponsoring the company for failure to vaccinate? Why? Think!
legendary
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December 22, 2016, 11:37:14 AM
I would call them the 'pharmaceutical company executive' and 'useful idiots' (e.g., criptix, sithara007, etc.)

I am not on the payroll of any pharmaceutical company. I just want normal human beings to use modern medicine, so that they live longer and healthier. On the other hand, your behavior was very disappointing.
legendary
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December 22, 2016, 11:29:15 AM
 "Only the small secrets need to be protected.
   The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity.
"
        --- Marshall McLuhan

So weird, but so true. That's just illustrates the dark ages we live in. Forget Capitalism, Communism, Socialism, Idiotism... they're all deceptions. Remember, Modern Slavery is the system we live in and you're changing nothing by going to elections. You just think you're changing because it's lovely to have sense you have some (fake) power.
full member
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December 22, 2016, 11:22:36 AM
IMHO only vaccines that has been thoroughly tested should be allowed for these mandatory vaccination. That provided, I don't see any reason why the gov't should not do it. Imagine an epidemic the scale of the Ebola outbreak. You may not even have universal healthcare but when s**t happens the gov't would have to shell out some cash. Which is coming out of your pocket.

The epidemic is easier to prevent than to fight its consequences. Where people take money for treatment? Where should take the money those people whom it infects? To such consequences need to prepare in advance.

Yes, "prevention is better than cure" may be to cliche but there's truth to it. People who skimp usually end up spending more. Say, a dengue vaccine is already available and the gov't is offering it for free. By not taking it you risk getting infected (and in dengue's case, it can kill you). And you spend more on hospital bills, you can just imagine how expensive it is, especially in poorer countries like mine where people can't afford to get their own health insurance. Even with some help from the gov't, the costs can add up. And since the gov't is spending, where do you think they're getting the money from? Yes, from you -- and you're also paying for other people who got sick because they refused the vaccine.


I agree with you completely. Man cannot exist outside society and therefore can not ignore the rules that exist in this society. I'm all for a tax with those who are not vaccinated, but if he hasn't the money to return it to the heirs.
legendary
Activity: 4760
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December 22, 2016, 11:20:50 AM

You know what they say. Yes, we're all cattle. But many are sheeple too. I'm totally tired of explaining unexplainable to brainwashees who think state and pharmaceutical mafia have any kind of positive intent. People, for the sake of humanity, you need to open your eyes and your minds. Internet, which is mainly uncensored when you read not just mainstream news is great source of information. There are countless studies and countless interviews with insiders that confitm negative impact of vaccination, and it's not just the vaccination. We're living in a world where policies are made by elite and corporations and it goes deeply covering every aspect of living.

Here's a little handbook about most obvious conspiracies that are actually praxis, but many people won't believe it because it sounds too weird to be true.

1) 9/11 was a false flag operation which was good excuse for war games in Middle East, capturing oil fields and heroin production. Osama Bin Laden is most probably alive, there was a whole circus with his capture, why didn't they show him?
2) Vaccination is part of population control policy, spreading diseases through it.
...

  "Only the small secrets need to be protected.
   The big ones are kept secret by public incredulity.
"

        --- Marshall McLuhan

sr. member
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December 22, 2016, 11:13:37 AM
IMHO only vaccines that has been thoroughly tested should be allowed for these mandatory vaccination. That provided, I don't see any reason why the gov't should not do it. Imagine an epidemic the scale of the Ebola outbreak. You may not even have universal healthcare but when s**t happens the gov't would have to shell out some cash. Which is coming out of your pocket.

The epidemic is easier to prevent than to fight its consequences. Where people take money for treatment? Where should take the money those people whom it infects? To such consequences need to prepare in advance.

Yes, "prevention is better than cure" may be to cliche but there's truth to it. People who skimp usually end up spending more. Say, a dengue vaccine is already available and the gov't is offering it for free. By not taking it you risk getting infected (and in dengue's case, it can kill you). And you spend more on hospital bills, you can just imagine how expensive it is, especially in poorer countries like mine where people can't afford to get their own health insurance. Even with some help from the gov't, the costs can add up. And since the gov't is spending, where do you think they're getting the money from? Yes, from you -- and you're also paying for other people who got sick because they refused the vaccine.

sr. member
Activity: 263
Merit: 250
December 22, 2016, 11:01:06 AM
IMHO only vaccines that has been thoroughly tested should be allowed for these mandatory vaccination. That provided, I don't see any reason why the gov't should not do it. Imagine an epidemic the scale of the Ebola outbreak. You may not even have universal healthcare but when s**t happens the gov't would have to shell out some cash. Which is coming out of your pocket.

The epidemic is easier to prevent than to fight its consequences. Where people take money for treatment? Where should take the money those people whom it infects? To such consequences need to prepare in advance.
legendary
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December 22, 2016, 10:57:59 AM
You know what they say. Yes, we're all cattle. But many are sheeple too. I'm totally tired of explaining unexplainable to brainwashees who think state and pharmaceutical mafia have any kind of positive intent. People, for the sake of humanity, you need to open your eyes and your minds. Internet, which is mainly uncensored when you read not just mainstream news is great source of information. There are countless studies and countless interviews with insiders that confitm negative impact of vaccination, and it's not just the vaccination. We're living in a world where policies are made by elite and corporations and it goes deeply covering every aspect of living.

Here's a little handbook about most obvious conspiracies that are actually praxis, but many people won't believe it because it sounds too weird to be true.

1) 9/11 was a false flag operation which was good excuse for war games in Middle East, capturing oil fields and heroin production. Osama Bin Laden is most probably alive, there was a whole circus with his capture, why didn't they show him?
2) Vaccination is part of population control policy, spreading diseases through it.
3) War on drugs is war for money and war for people not to be fully aware of the potential of their brain.
4) Chemtrails / GMO / Haarp are connected operations which have various goals.
5) Financial/banksters FIAT money fraud, fractional reserve banking - well connected with Blockstream's (Bilderberg) investment in demise of Bitcoin.
6) Religions are deception, a tool for making new wars, same goes for mainstream media.
... there is much much more, but those are most important conspiracies.

That's the world we live in today, if you can't see that, you're stupid, you're blind and I have nothing but pity for you. You're the part of the reason why we will soon have World War III.
sr. member
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December 22, 2016, 10:54:18 AM
IMHO only vaccines that has been thoroughly tested should be allowed for these mandatory vaccination. That provided, I don't see any reason why the gov't should not do it. Imagine an epidemic the scale of the Ebola outbreak. You may not even have universal healthcare but when s**t happens the gov't would have to shell out some cash. Which is coming out of your pocket.
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