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Quote from: klidex on August 18, 2023, 02:16:00 PM

Your story reminds me of a case in my city not long ago a minor was addicted to playing slots and this child was only 14 years old until he owed his neighbor a total of $40 and after that when he ran out of money he stole goods from his neighbors to sell and the money is used for gambling.
At first all the neighbors not suspect that the boy was stealing because they did not know about his gambling activities, but one night my friend tried to lurk in someone house and saw the boy and his friend stealing things and my friend caught them and was interrogated, all of them turned out to be playing slot.

After that, best way is to return it to the parents and put it in a psychology doctor to give lessons about the dangers of gambling and carry out rehabilitation and also when the child is given less money at home, which is only enough to buy food and drinks.
Maybe this method is a little more helpful and the most appropriate way only his family can determine.

Some children doesn't have enough money to play the gambling,So such children will do the steal habit and it only reflected after complete monitoring.Because the neighbor will not focus the children at the beginning,mostly they target the workers of their house.So the children will not get enough money to play the gambling in long run.The best way for the children is they need to win the big amount before being captured by the neighbor.From the winning money the children will play the gambling on the upcoming days.

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Quote from: Zlantann on August 18, 2023, 03:17:53 AM

A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

I would advice him to stop gambling. Imagine the hardworks his parents is going through just to provide his needs, then all of a sudden instead of saving the money he spend it on gambling. It is not a matter of whether he steals or not. It is a matter of giving value to the money his parents is giving him as an allowance and as a dependent, he should think the sacrifices of his parents and should stop gambling because his parents wanted him to stop, as a respect he must heed his parents advice.

He can then continue his gambling activities or engagement if he is not dependent on his parents or working and getting fund for gambling himself.

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Quote from: Zlantann on August 18, 2023, 03:17:53 AM

A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

Try to give some advise on stopping that gambling habit because rather than on spending those allowance on gambling, then it would be better if those funds would be make use on other means on which you would be

able to utilize and able to buy something which is really that worthy and not on spending on something that cant really be giving out that assurance on making money or totally depending on luck. We know that gambling could give out those kind of probabilities and this might be the main reason on why that kid really loves on gambling which winning up some huge amount which is something that could make him buy on what he want.
This is the main problem when you do have this kind of intent on your mind on which it would really be that driving force for you to play even more.

Advises might work but not likely specially if this kid had been doing this for a while now. As long he arent stealing or doing some shit things then it should be fine but on the time that he's already
that stealing up something then this is a solid indicative sign that he's already addicted to it.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on August 18, 2023, 01:10:37 PM

Quote from: ralle14 on August 18, 2023, 12:44:04 PM

If the boy is that interested in continuing to gamble, then i'd suggest creating a spreadsheet and listing every transaction and bet he made as proof that he's a responsible gambler. I know stopping would be for the best, but i'd assume he won't stop because even if he says yes, there could still be a chance for him to gamble secretly. Having a spreadsheet and tracking his every gambling move gives him at least the awareness because you never know when he'll start to make mistakes and possibly develop an addiction.

I really like this suggestion. This will make the parents calm on worrying their children to become addicted since they can track the gambling activities of the boy. I think adding transaction link or pictures that will serves as proof on the balance history will make this spreadsheet reliable and can't be tampered by the boy when he wants to hide his addiction.

It's easy to control gambling if you track your progress and also if you knew that someone will monitor your activity. Being open to each other will make this small issue solve without the boy show a rebellious traits because he is being stopped to gamble while he can do it secretly.

It is very easy for we all to see it that way that the spreadsheet recommendation will be reliable, because counting the cost, that's just another way of giving more burden to the mother having to spend quality time tracking the child's gambling habit when he could just stop and save the mum the stress.... Moreover the child is still young and there's much time for him to gamble after he's done with school and financial independent.

You can't control a gambler if he has not first of all control himself. No mechanism you use can, and when a gambler is not yet satisfied with how much he has gambled for the day he can conceal a means to gamble more secretly to the ignorance of those trying to monitor him.

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As parents. it is still our responsibility to guide or remind our children about the negative effects of gambling though they have reached the right age to gamble. We still have a part not to control everything but to advise them to do it wisely and never fall for gambling addiction.

If we know that our children are still financially dependent then we can say that they still aren't ready for gambling because to be honest, their gambling journey will still affect our finances and they still aren't knowledgeable of handling finances wisely since they aren't earning it.

If our children reach 18, that doesn't necessarily mean that they could gamble if they couldn't sustain it. We must let them do it when they already have their own source of income because if we will just let them rely on us when it comes to gambling, we will only end up regretting things because if they aren't prepared for it financially and emotionally, it will cause damage in the end.

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Your story reminds me of a case in my city not long ago a minor was addicted to playing slots and this child was only 14 years old until he owed his neighbor a total of $40 and after that when he ran out of money he stole goods from his neighbors to sell and the money is used for gambling.
At first all the neighbors not suspect that the boy was stealing because they did not know about his gambling activities, but one night my friend tried to lurk in someone house and saw the boy and his friend stealing things and my friend caught them and was interrogated, all of them turned out to be playing slot.

After that, best way is to return it to the parents and put it in a psychology doctor to give lessons about the dangers of gambling and carry out rehabilitation and also when the child is given less money at home, which is only enough to buy food and drinks.
Maybe this method is a little more helpful and the most appropriate way only his family can determine.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on August 18, 2023, 01:10:37 PM

Quote from: ralle14 on August 18, 2023, 12:44:04 PM

If the boy is that interested in continuing to gamble, then i'd suggest creating a spreadsheet and listing every transaction and bet he made as proof that he's a responsible gambler. I know stopping would be for the best, but i'd assume he won't stop because even if he says yes, there could still be a chance for him to gamble secretly. Having a spreadsheet and tracking his every gambling move gives him at least the awareness because you never know when he'll start to make mistakes and possibly develop an addiction.

I really like this suggestion. This will make the parents calm on worrying their children to become addicted since they can track the gambling activities of the boy. I think adding transaction link or pictures that will serves as proof on the balance history will make this spreadsheet reliable and can't be tampered by the boy when he wants to hide his addiction.

It's easy to control gambling if you track your progress and also if you knew that someone will monitor your activity. Being open to each other will make this small issue solve without the boy show a rebellious traits because he is being stopped to gamble while he can do it secretly.

Arguably a better workaround in my opinion. Not only does this help him track his expenses and all that budgety-stuff. If he presents this to his parents this could also be grounds for them to trust him more, maybe even let him to his own devices eventually although I could only assume that taking a long-ass time before happening. Still, it establishes responsibility and most importantly a trust system that enables his parents to believe him and trust him, beyond the fact that it opens his eyes to just how much he spends every time he gambles.

Or he could just quit, saves him the trouble from the nagging and all that nasty stuff.

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Quote from: ralle14 on August 18, 2023, 12:44:04 PM

If the boy is that interested in continuing to gamble, then i'd suggest creating a spreadsheet and listing every transaction and bet he made as proof that he's a responsible gambler. I know stopping would be for the best, but i'd assume he won't stop because even if he says yes, there could still be a chance for him to gamble secretly. Having a spreadsheet and tracking his every gambling move gives him at least the awareness because you never know when he'll start to make mistakes and possibly develop an addiction.

I really like this suggestion. This will make the parents calm on worrying their children to become addicted since they can track the gambling activities of the boy. I think adding transaction link or pictures that will serves as proof on the balance history will make this spreadsheet reliable and can't be tampered by the boy when he wants to hide his addiction.

It's easy to control gambling if you track your progress and also if you knew that someone will monitor your activity. Being open to each other will make this small issue solve without the boy show a rebellious traits because he is being stopped to gamble while he can do it secretly.

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Quote from: Zlantann on August 18, 2023, 03:17:53 AM

A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

You can never know if the guy is actually being honest with you or not. What if he actually steals money from his mother but he refused to accept that in front of you? And what if he is already addicted to gambling but tells you that he only gambles when he has savings and doesn't do it when he doesn't? I'm not saying that he is lying specifically, but I'm just saying that there is always a possibility that a gambler doesn't openly accept how deep they have gotten into it.

However, even if he is not lying or hiding anything, or even if he is a responsible gambler if his mother doesn't want him to do that, he should stop immediately, because not obeying your mother means you will never get success in life, she is the person you should always respect and obey.

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Judging by the fact that your nephew's still living under his mom's roof and is depending on her for sustenance and daily cash, I say he might wanna stop gambling for the meantime until such a time comes when he can create his own moolah. If he pushes for gambling against his mom's wishes he might land on her bad side which will lead to more problems than he can deal with. The smartest path here is to quit gambling and invest his money instead for the meantime, or at least save it if he's not keen about investing money since he's still 18 anyway.

It all boils down to making sure that you don't bite the hand that feeds you. It's his mom for sure but everyone's got their limits to their temper. We wouldn't want him to blow her fuse especially since he's still entirely dependent to her for money.

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If the boy is that interested in continuing to gamble, then i'd suggest creating a spreadsheet and listing every transaction and bet he made as proof that he's a responsible gambler. I know stopping would be for the best, but i'd assume he won't stop because even if he says yes, there could still be a chance for him to gamble secretly. Having a spreadsheet and tracking his every gambling move gives him at least the awareness because you never know when he'll start to make mistakes and possibly develop an addiction.

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Quote from: DabsPoorVersion on August 18, 2023, 12:33:12 PM

Quote from: Zlantann on August 18, 2023, 03:17:53 AM

What will be your advice for this young boy?

My advice would be for him to stop and not use his money for gambling, the money that is suppose to be used for his needs in school. The kid still being responsible for now, but who knows what he will do once he started to become greedy. He better stop immediately before he comes to the point that he needs to steal money just to gamble. His mother should talk to him regularly and make her son realize that this is not the right time for him to enter gambling until he make his own hard earned money.

As per the OP, he is just using his allowance. Maybe he is saving his money by not spending part of it so that he can use it to gamble which I think alright because he already earn it through his own action by saving that money. He is not using tuition or money that is intended for his school requirements but rather those funds that dedicated to for personal use.

As long as he is still in control, I don’t think the need to worry since he will still do this even without the parent consent. Worst is the boy hides gambling to his parents until he suffer addiction without everyone noticing it.

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Quote from: Zlantann on August 18, 2023, 03:17:53 AM

What will be your advice for this young boy?

My advice would be for him to stop and not use his money for gambling, the money that is supposed to be used for his needs in school. The kid still being responsible for now, but who knows what he will do once he started to become greedy. He better stop immediately before he comes to the point that he needs to steal money just to gamble. His mother should talk to him regularly and make her son realize that this is not the right time for him to enter gambling until he makes his own hard-earned money.

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My personal advice it would be to encourage the young man to engage in other activities outside gambling, like practicing some sport and also to check on his grades while he is at school. He is 18 years old so legally he is in his right to gamble, however since he is dependent on his family, then his family should at least try to monitor whether he starts to show early symptoms of addiction as moths or years pass by.

For example, if he joins a football club and study, then his family could tell something is wrong if he suddenly stops to practice a sport he likes or his grades start to drop dramatically, so they can intervene in time and see what is going on.

Otherwise, there would be no way to know he is going through hard times, the addiction could crawl forwards and make him feel ashamed of his losses and stigmatized.
The whole point is to be honest with the people who maintain the way of life he is having and provide him food, shelter, medicine, etc. It is the least he could do for them, in my opinion.

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He could lie about not stealing the money. This is very shameful and often almost no one admits it. I observed something similar with my relatives, when one family member stole money from the rest for alcohol. It is necessary not to keep money at home, so as not to provoke him to steal. Because if the moment convenient for him turns up, he will do it, I don’t even doubt it.

On the other hand, you will not be able to exert permanent control over him, and if he wants to, he will still find a way to gamble. Of course, this is a very dangerous age. But by my example, I will say that at his age I was also fond of gambling, and although much older, I only make a few bets a year and do not feel strong attraction to it. Maybe time will pass and he will come to his senses

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Quote from: Zlantann on August 18, 2023, 03:17:53 AM

A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

I suspect the lad's mum is just paranoid seeing his son spending part of a time he's supposed to use in his studies as a student on gambling which could be a distraction agent somehow to his education. And also, just because he's a dependant and now gambling it then mean he's going to start stealing too. What she needs to do now is not to scold but to advise and counsel the boy the dangers related to gambling and why he's not in the rightful financial condition yet for him to start gambling even if he takes it as source of entertainment.

By your country's gambling age, the boy is in the rightful age to gamble just that he's not independent of himself in many ways than one, and as such he should listen to his mother's advise and apply brake in his interest to gamble not until he has started living on himself as an independent adult. There's so much time in the world for him to gamble in whatever ways he wants to but for now he should take a leave.

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Quote from: Zlantann on August 18, 2023, 03:17:53 AM

What will be your advice for this young boy?

Don’t let his mother know that he is gambling? What type of gambling we are talking about because this issue will be solved easily by hiding his gambling activity from his mother if he is only playing online gambling. No mother will allow their son to gamble especially if the son is still studying and not earning for his own.

The boy should respect his mother decision since his allowance is still comes from his parents. I think gambling is suitable only for those whose earning through their own salary and not from someone money because there’s always a risk that you will steal money from others since you are not the source of your money.

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Quote from: Zlantann on August 18, 2023, 03:17:53 AM

A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

Prevention is better than cure.
We might see the boy being responsible at this moment but once emotions take place, then that is where problem could arise. Given that he's still young, how sure are you that your nephew won't change once he experience bigger amount of money? You ones are easily being eaten by their emotions and theu are reported to be having a higher tolerance with risk taking simply because they are not thinking with the full extent of consequences on their actions. Also, the mother is right; financial dependency would be a factor not unless the kid has his own source of income wherein he could decide where he would spend it. Remember, an amount of money easily earned would be easily spent as well.

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Quote from: Zlantann on August 18, 2023, 03:17:53 AM

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

Since it was known I think he should just stop but if he really knows his limit I think he's really a responsible gambler. On my own point of view, I guess the boy will just continue it otherwise, I guess it's best if there will be leverage or some sort of punishment if he tend to do so. For example, he'll gonna be stopped if he caught again or if it's the cause he fail some subjects. In that way he'll really know his own limit.

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Quote from: Zlantann on August 18, 2023, 03:17:53 AM

A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

No parent will be happy to see their child doing bad things,but in fact, I am wondering why his mother is not worried about his gambling but only worries that he will later start stealing from her or someplace else. If your son does not have any means of getting money but solely depends on his mother for anything he does and is still a gambler, it will surely shame his mother one day by acting badly. Even if he did not steal from her, he will still do something wrong in another way, like using school fees to gamble or borrowing money to gamble. This is also a bad idea.

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I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

Nobody to be trusted, especially gamblers, are always good liars. The nephew can just be lying to cover up his dirty act. I am not saying maybe he stole from someone before or did anything bad, but let's look around at the attitude of the gambler and judge. Let's not judge by only the nephew's attitude. My advice for the boy is to stop gambling, because even if he doesn't act bad now, he may do it in the future when he becomes gambling addicted. It is best to stop early.

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