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Quote from: madnessteat on August 09, 2022, 08:04:12 AM

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Many respectable people put gambling, alcoholism and drug addiction on the same level because all of these activities negatively affect the human psyche in the acute phase. If you drink a glass of wine on Fridays or play poker, it does not mean that it will negatively affect your health. But you should always remember that any hobby that can grow into a habit must be controlled.

It's pretty much the same thing. That's how addiction is formed, you do something, get the dopamine effect, you feel good at the moment, and then in the long term you have negative consequences.

It doesn't matter if the thing is tobacco, alcohol, chocolate, or gambling. You feel good in the moment, and you continue doing it because of it.

Short term mindset vs long term mindset.

The people with long term mindset tend to be healthier and wealthier than the ones with short term mindset.

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Quote from: Theones on August 07, 2022, 11:20:25 AM

One thing I have learnt over the course of time . . is - that you are your only true friend.
And that your mental health is important and your health too.
So try to avoid trouble as much as you could.

If you feel you can't keep yourself from gambling, it's best to leave gambling for good because it's not good for you.
You can use many ways to fill your spare time by not playing gambling if gambling will bring badness to you.
But unfortunately, many people do not understand and instead continue playing gambling because they think gambling does not require control.
Gambling with control will protect you from the risk of loss, therefore, take care of yourself before things turn bad.

Its easier said than done you cannot do that unless there's an intervention coming from an outside source like your relatives and professional help, the interference includes curing and replacing the urge to gamble without this you cannot stop the gambling if you are a compulsive gambler, I have seen people promising themselves and their family that they will stop gambling but they end doing it in secret because they cannot keep up.

Even on intervention it wont really assure that it could really make you stop midway.For sure you would really be having in mind on how the hell they would care? Its your money then its your right to play.
Everything should be in moderation not only on gambling but also in other things as well because everything thats excessive will really be giving a big problem.
It would be mainly affecting finances and health if you dont really make yourself to have good control or discipline thats why you should be mindful on making decisions.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on August 09, 2022, 04:01:06 AM

I think gambling is sort of simulation in life where you play and directly win at financial means. So it has escapist mechanism in itself. Because of this I believe, gambling can be very fun to go away from stressful things in life. I don't count financial benefits even. But gamblers should be respectful to their family while escaping from bad sides of life. It can be damaging to totally escape life.

Yeah, totally escaping life is never a good thing, especially if you want to do it frequently and for a long period of time. Maybe you should reconsider your way of living instead of trying to escape it through gambling, alcohol, drugs or whatever. In fact, I think gambling shouldn't be in one list along with drugs and alcohol even. Gambling, if done in moderation, can be a healthier way for you to relax.

Many respectable people put gambling, alcoholism and drug addiction on the same level because all of these activities negatively affect the human psyche in the acute phase. If you drink a glass of wine on Fridays or play poker, it does not mean that it will negatively affect your health. But you should always remember that any hobby that can grow into a habit must be controlled.

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Quote from: traderethereum on August 08, 2022, 11:24:04 PM

Quote from: Theones on August 07, 2022, 11:20:25 AM

One thing I have learnt over the course of time . . is - that you are your only true friend.
And that your mental health is important and your health too.
So try to avoid trouble as much as you could.

If you feel you can't keep yourself from gambling, it's best to leave gambling for good because it's not good for you.
You can use many ways to fill your spare time by not playing gambling if gambling will bring badness to you.
But unfortunately, many people do not understand and instead continue playing gambling because they think gambling does not require control.
Gambling with control will protect you from the risk of loss, therefore, take care of yourself before things turn bad.

Its easier said than done you cannot do that unless there's an intervention coming from an outside source like your relatives and professional help, the interference includes curing and replacing the urge to gamble without this you cannot stop the gambling if you are a compulsive gambler, I have seen people promising themselves and their family that they will stop gambling but they end doing it in secret because they cannot keep up.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on August 09, 2022, 04:01:06 AM

I think gambling is sort of simulation in life where you play and directly win at financial means. So it has escapist mechanism in itself. Because of this I believe, gambling can be very fun to go away from stressful things in life. I don't count financial benefits even. But gamblers should be respectful to their family while escaping from bad sides of life. It can be damaging to totally escape life.

I don't see any respect for the family when you tend to go to gambling to escape the stressful reality rather than spending your time for your family. Well, there's an exception to that If you're not frequently doing it, but as you label a person a "gambler", first thing that comes out to your mind would be, this person gambles regularly.
Another exception would be, when you're working from home and you have enough time for your family, so I can say you're perfect fine to gamble regularly as long as you will not exceed financially.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on August 09, 2022, 04:01:06 AM

I think gambling is sort of simulation in life where you play and directly win at financial means. So it has escapist mechanism in itself. Because of this I believe, gambling can be very fun to go away from stressful things in life. I don't count financial benefits even. But gamblers should be respectful to their family while escaping from bad sides of life. It can be damaging to totally escape life.

Yeah, totally escaping life is never a good thing, especially if you want to do it frequently and for a long period of time. Maybe you should reconsider your way of living instead of trying to escape it through gambling, alcohol, drugs or whatever. In fact, I think gambling shouldn't be in one list along with drugs and alcohol even. Gambling, if done in moderation, can be a healthier way for you to relax.

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I think gambling is sort of simulation in life where you play and directly win at financial means. So it has escapist mechanism in itself. Because of this I believe, gambling can be very fun to go away from stressful things in life. I don't count financial benefits even. But gamblers should be respectful to their family while escaping from bad sides of life. It can be damaging to totally escape life.

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Quote from: serjent05 on August 09, 2022, 01:47:31 AM

It isn't just a financial problem that we may encounter but actually, every aspect of our daily lives might be affected if we don't moderate our gambling activities.

Thats why we must limit ourselves. If you know that you might end up becoming addicted due to lack of discipline then dont even try to gamble. It has a pros (like what op have said) that can be benefical for gamblers who are playing in moderation but lets admit, thats not always the case for many gamblers especially to those who cant accept the losses.

So youre right, gambling affects the every aspect of our lives and it depends on us how we will let gambling influence us, is it for the better by playing in moderation, or for worse for not limiting ourselves.

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Quote from: TopT3ns on August 09, 2022, 01:01:09 AM

he may be very easy to get money in my opinion it is not an important problem because the money he gets is very easy and by gambling he is just looking for entertainment and does not intend to make his assets go up because if you gamble with the hope of increasing the value of assets then it is a big mistake because in a gambling place no one can guarantee that he can double his assets in an instant, use gambling to play not to make money and if it is difficult to make money then you have to work so that it is easy to get money.

Anything excess is always harmful. Even with the limitless bankroll, if we don't moderate our gambling activity even if it is for entertainment, we might find ourselves having health problems since if we gamble excessively every day, we deprived ourselves of proper sleep, physical exercise, and relaxation for emotional balance, not saying we might forget to eat balanced foods too since we are too hooked-up in gambling. It isn't just a financial problem that we may encounter but actually, every aspect of our daily lives might be affected if we don't moderate our gambling activities.

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Quote from: traderethereum on August 08, 2022, 11:24:04 PM

Quote from: Theones on August 07, 2022, 11:20:25 AM

One thing I have learnt over the course of time . . is - that you are your only true friend.
And that your mental health is important and your health too.
So try to avoid trouble as much as you could.

If you feel you can't keep yourself from gambling, it's best to leave gambling for good because it's not good for you.
You can use many ways to fill your spare time by not playing gambling if gambling will bring badness to you.
But unfortunately, many people do not understand and instead continue playing gambling because they think gambling does not require control.
Gambling with control will protect you from the risk of loss, therefore, take care of yourself before things turn bad.

he may be very easy to get money in my opinion it is not an important problem because the money he gets is very easy and by gambling he is just looking for entertainment and does not intend to make his assets go up because if you gamble with the hope of increasing the value of assets then it is a big mistake because in a gambling place no one can guarantee that he can double his assets in an instant, use gambling to play not to make money and if it is difficult to make money then you have to work so that it is easy to get money.

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Quote from: n0ne on July 21, 2022, 07:26:51 PM

Makes you Happier - When you win.
Stress Reduction - increase the stress when lost. Very few consider it for fun/entertainment.
Relaxation and Comfort - Recalls the loss and always think of the way to recover.
Improves your Skills - I don't know in what way it is improving one's skills, because all we learn is strategies to win. Apart from that we do collection of information.
Helps with Socialization - More gamblers have turned friends through online and offline gambling platforms which is true.
Potential for big wins - You need to be extremely lucky or in the process of being lucky what you get out of the luck will be lower than what you have spend to achieve it.

Don't think that I've made things with a negative perspective. This is the reality that happens with the normal gambler. What is being mentioned through the article is all about the gamblers who have a big bag of money and never mind of win/loss.

There is truth in what you mentioned mate, almost most of the people who have a lot of money or rich people don't care if they lose a lot in a game whether it is landbase or online gambling. while the majority of gamblers seek and struggle or participate to get a gambling jackpot. Sometimes others even lead to bad things because they become a vice without realizing it, they no longer control themselves because of being greedy for money to get from a gambling that their actions are out of control.

Quote from: traderethereum on August 08, 2022, 11:24:04 PM

If you feel you can't keep yourself from gambling, it's best to leave gambling for good because it's not good for you.
You can use many ways to fill your spare time by not playing gambling if gambling will bring badness to you.
But unfortunately, many people do not understand and instead continue playing gambling because they think gambling does not require control.
Gambling with control will protect you from the risk of loss, therefore, take care of yourself before things turn bad.

Sometimes, when a gambler is addicted to a gamble, he doesn't know what is called self-control anymore, because he doesn't think about anything else but to win the gamble and get a big profit from it and that's not on his mind anymore. he is the one who loses, so most of those gamblers lose a lot of money and others even lead to the destruction of their families and the sale of their properties and the destruction of their lives.

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Quote from: Theones on August 07, 2022, 11:20:25 AM

One thing I have learnt over the course of time . . is - that you are your only true friend.
And that your mental health is important and your health too.
So try to avoid trouble as much as you could.

If you feel you can't keep yourself from gambling, it's best to leave gambling for good because it's not good for you.
You can use many ways to fill your spare time by not playing gambling if gambling will bring badness to you.
But unfortunately, many people do not understand and instead continue playing gambling because they think gambling does not require control.
Gambling with control will protect you from the risk of loss, therefore, take care of yourself before things turn bad.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 08, 2022, 08:35:54 PM

Quote from: serjent05 on August 06, 2022, 06:13:46 PM

It is really the most horrible because it will really take almost everything from you. Financial stress often leads to depression and the only way to remove this depression is to have a regular income that can pay both our daily needs and debt. It is worst for people who are hooked or addicted to gambling because they can be trapped in a loop wherein they keep circling in taking loans, work, and paying loans just to sustain their gambling addiction.

And this is not only a problem with gambling addiction, to be honest I do not know how people deal with being in debt for the most part of their lives as I know that I would not be able to sleep properly if I owed a great deal of money to the banks and I knew that I will need to work for decades to settle that debt, it is because of this I have remained debt free almost all my life and it is one of the main reason why I can be relaxed all the time as I know that even if I were to lose my job I have the resources to deal with it for a long time.

At least in the US it seems that it's pretty common to have debt.

Here's what type of debt people have in the US:

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Quote from: serjent05 on August 06, 2022, 06:13:46 PM

It is really the most horrible because it will really take almost everything from you. Financial stress often leads to depression and the only way to remove this depression is to have a regular income that can pay both our daily needs and debt. It is worst for people who are hooked or addicted to gambling because they can be trapped in a loop wherein they keep circling in taking loans, work, and paying loans just to sustain their gambling addiction.

And this is not only a problem with gambling addiction, to be honest I do not know how people deal with being in debt for the most part of their lives as I know that I would not be able to sleep properly if I owed a great deal of money to the banks and I knew that I will need to work for decades to settle that debt, it is because of this I have remained debt free almost all my life and it is one of the main reason why I can be relaxed all the time as I know that even if I were to lose my job I have the resources to deal with it for a long time.

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Quote from: serjent05 on August 06, 2022, 06:13:46 PM

Quote from: Theones on August 06, 2022, 05:23:52 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on August 06, 2022, 04:09:01 PM

your basebet whenever you do lose which even if you do set out the maximum losing streak for even 30 plus or something it couldnt really assure that it could really able to sustain
thats why this is a wrong misconception for almost everyone specially to those who are just new into gambling where they do commonly make use of this very
common and usual betting strategy specially on dice or even on crash.Its up to you on how you would make out adjustments.

I think financial stress is the most horrible of all. It drains you and takes away all your energy and freshness.
The loan and interest and the payoff - is the horrible of all. I have suffered one of the loan payoff - which I lost during gambling and I was in so much trauma for approx 6 months.

It is really the most horrible because it will really take almost everything from you. Financial stress often leads to depression and the only way to remove this depression is to have a regular income that can pay both our daily needs and debt. It is worst for people who are hooked or addicted to gambling because they can be trapped in a loop wherein they keep circling in taking loans, work, and paying loans just to sustain their gambling addiction.

One thing I have learnt over the course of time . . is - that you are your only true friend.
And that your mental health is important and your health too.
So try to avoid trouble as much as you could.

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Quote from: Theones on August 06, 2022, 05:23:52 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on August 06, 2022, 04:09:01 PM

your basebet whenever you do lose which even if you do set out the maximum losing streak for even 30 plus or something it couldnt really assure that it could really able to sustain
thats why this is a wrong misconception for almost everyone specially to those who are just new into gambling where they do commonly make use of this very
common and usual betting strategy specially on dice or even on crash.Its up to you on how you would make out adjustments.

I think financial stress is the most horrible of all. It drains you and takes away all your energy and freshness.
The loan and interest and the payoff - is the horrible of all. I have suffered one of the loan payoff - which I lost during gambling and I was in so much trauma for approx 6 months.

It is really the most horrible because it will really take almost everything from you. Financial stress often leads to depression and the only way to remove this depression is to have a regular income that can pay both our daily needs and debt. It is worst for people who are hooked or addicted to gambling because they can be trapped in a loop wherein they keep circling in taking loans, work, and paying loans just to sustain their gambling addiction.

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Quote from: Theones on August 06, 2022, 05:23:52 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on August 06, 2022, 04:09:01 PM

your basebet whenever you do lose which even if you do set out the maximum losing streak for even 30 plus or something it couldnt really assure that it could really able to sustain
thats why this is a wrong misconception for almost everyone specially to those who are just new into gambling where they do commonly make use of this very
common and usual betting strategy specially on dice or even on crash.Its up to you on how you would make out adjustments.

I think financial stress is the most horrible of all. It drains you and takes away all your energy and freshness.
The loan and interest and the payoff - is the horrible of all. I have suffered one of the loan payoff - which I lost during gambling and I was in so much trauma for approx 6 months.

Having a debt is really a big burden to some especially if you are going to get that loans so you can use it to pay another debt, its just like you are trap on that and the only way to get out is to increase your source of income. Gambling in moderation can save you from the big stress, it gives you more time to think and more time to get extra money so you can gamble. This only mean to me that you are still in control with your gambling activities, and its really good.

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Quote from: Mahanton on August 06, 2022, 04:09:01 PM

your basebet whenever you do lose which even if you do set out the maximum losing streak for even 30 plus or something it couldnt really assure that it could really able to sustain
thats why this is a wrong misconception for almost everyone specially to those who are just new into gambling where they do commonly make use of this very
common and usual betting strategy specially on dice or even on crash.Its up to you on how you would make out adjustments.

I think financial stress is the most horrible of all. It drains you and takes away all your energy and freshness.
The loan and interest and the payoff - is the horrible of all. I have suffered one of the loan payoff - which I lost during gambling and I was in so much trauma for approx 6 months.

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Quote from: Silberman on August 05, 2022, 08:59:56 PM

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Quote from: Silberman on August 02, 2022, 10:48:52 PM

The stress reduction aspect of gambling depends on the mentality of each person, after all something that can be incredibly stressful for you can be something relaxing for me and vice versa, however it is true that if someone does not gamble in moderation and they are abusing it then it is very unlikely they are going to get any stress reduction as there is not really a single person that likes to lose money they cannot afford to lose in a consistent basis.

Not only in consistent basis which I agree everyone get stressed after they lose the money but even if you overdo it like a couple of times.I never thought I would get sad because I lost some money that I can afford to lose but yesterday I thought to myself today I am going to play with a high bet and see in a short amount of time if I will be a winner or not,I play slot machines,and sadly I lost everything in less than 5 minutes.I thought to myself that I tried to hit it big and should not be worried,however my wife directly noticed that I was not in the normal mood I am always,so deep inside me I was stressed even when losing money I can afford to lose.

That is an interesting observation, even if you lose some money that you had already planned on using to gamble if the speed at which you do so is too fast then you may still get some lingering regrets about it, this is something that I think it has happened to everyone and I include myself as well, as I remember that once I decide to use the martingale strategy and I got busted in less than 10 minutes when the chances of that happening that fast were very low, it was a bad loss but I learned a lot from it.

Using up martingale doesnt really assure whether it would be a long or short session because it would vary on how early or late you would really be able to experience because this strategy had been known on doubling

your basebet whenever you do lose which even if you do set out the maximum losing streak for even 30 plus or something it couldnt really assure that it could really able to sustain
thats why this is a wrong misconception for almost everyone specially to those who are just new into gambling where they do commonly make use of this very
common and usual betting strategy specially on dice or even on crash.Its up to you on how you would make out adjustments.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 03, 2022, 08:33:23 AM

It's normal to be sad over losing money that you can afford to lose. I guess it's our body's natural response. After all, we have emotions and even though we try hard to control it and don't let it affect us in our everyday routine, there will be times that it will took over unconsciously. Just like being in an attitude for the day or out of energy.

So why aren't we sad when we are spending money on entertainment such as watching movies, rides, park entrances etc., I don't think we can label the money which we are sad when lost as money that we can afford to lose. Because if we can afford to lose, there shouldn't be bitter feelings towards losing it.

Quote from: AicecreaME on August 03, 2022, 08:33:23 AM

I guess it's really a matter of mind conditioning and at the same time moderation in gambling. Despite the pros of gambling, we can't really say it will outweigh the cons most especially if you frequent lose bets. Self-discipline is really a must so you won't get caught up betting over and over after a win or loss.

Surely, the pros can't outweigh the cons, if we are sad about losing money in gambling since it has taken away the several pros of engaging in a gambling game.

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