Gambling in Moderation, Pros can out weigh its Cons in Financial and Health? - page 8.

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Quote from: Reid on July 25, 2022, 03:54:18 AM

Great share, I love it. Thank you. I always think of gambling that way after I had bad losses in the past. Mostly from dice.
When I felt that I was not having fun anymore, I stopped it. It became a habitual thing, not entertainment.
I think we all have to deal on some point about what is happening, gambling should be fun not adding more stress in our everyday routine.
Now, I love sports betting because it honestly hypes me up whenever I watch the game live with my bet being on the line.
I can say, I am now relieved with the stress and regrets that I experienced before.

I can say that it was a very good strategy that you could stop when you were no longer having fun, not only do you save yourself from losing money, but also from falling into one of the possible things that some people fall into, and that is addiction, however I I understood in a long time but I apply that same power when I play slots, I just do it for fun.

Regarding what you say about sports betting, you are right, for me betting on sports the chances of winning are much stronger than winning in a casino game, unless you are in a PVP poker tournament, it is what I most I like it and I also know that the chances of winning increase, of course this is what I think and according to my little experience.

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It described a scientific invention of the distant future, which provided people with the achievement of homeostasis (physiological and psychological balance). It was a combination of special medical sensors (which recorded the smallest changes in the human body) and a first aid kit implanted in the human body.

At the slightest deviation from the norm, the drugs automatically entered the human blood and returned him to a normal psychological and physiological state. This was how the balance was ensured...

Undoubtedly, such devices would be very useful for gamblers in online casinos!

So it's something like forcefully making the state of mind of a person return back to normal? It's helpful but also kinda scary really since we'd then be able to pretty much force the body to produce the emotions that we want. I mean Pheromone exists but that's a different thing than this which is a simple stick that could control the state of a human being.

Quote from: Reid on July 25, 2022, 03:54:18 AM

Great share, I love it. Thank you. I always think of gambling that way after I had bad losses in the past. Mostly from dice.
When I felt that I was not having fun anymore, I stopped it. It became a habitual thing, not entertainment.
I think we all have to deal on some point about what is happening, gambling should be fun not adding more stress in our everyday routine.
Now, I love sports betting because it honestly hypes me up whenever I watch the game live with my bet being on the line.
I can say, I am now relieved with the stress and regrets that I experienced before.

A simple mindset to have is to think of the money you spend to pay being like an entrance fee of sorts. Imagine computer rentals and stuff like that, you pay to play kind of thing (though the game being something simple like dice kind of kills the idea ngl).

Any disease is a way out of the equilibrium state.

Diseases are treated with chemicals (drugs) and surgery.

However, the problem is that diseases are diagnosed very late, when the deviation from the initial equilibrium state is already very large. This is due to the fact that at present modern medicine and psychiatry conduct medical examinations of the human body only periodically (once a year, and sometimes much less frequently). But there is another approach - to conduct medical examinations of the human body constantly (in real time).

And if a problem is detected, immediately and automatically carry out treatment by introducing appropriate chemicals into the human blood.

This will prevent the disease at an early stage. In particular, this will completely get rid of gambling addiction.

Painful arousal will be diagnosed at a very early stage and the player will be injected with appropriate sedatives into the bloodstream.

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What could always be missing is enjoying the game.
Before it was easy because you get to interact with different people in a small casino. Now, it's not that easy anymore. You will need to join a group in discord or telegram but its still different when you talk to people physically.
Now, I have a hard time enjoying every table game unlike before when I rest for a long time after standing up at a poker table because I just like the discussions with other players.
Being alone in a room can be stressful and the fun given by gambling is short-lived.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 21, 2022, 05:34:11 PM

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Engaging in gambling in moderation will greatly save us financial losses compared to engaging in entertainment outdoor. Aside from that, recreational activities such as picnics, watching movies, and playing arcade games often have our finance in an outflow system. The only reward is entertainment and happiness whereas, if engage in gambling there is a chance of getting back what we spent since gambling always involved a chance of getting back what we bet in a certain multiplier. Of course, we are talking about gambling in moderation. Besides this kind of control, we are far from developing a gambling disorder.

This is the most interesting part. I think many people in their lives have met people who criticize gambling (or other "bad") spending, but at the same time have an expensive hobby that eats up a lot more time/money. Moreover, if you point it out to them, they get angry and say that "this is different" and cannot be compared Grin

In general, everything is obvious: any activity that brings pleasure is good if you do it within reasonable limits and do not become a fanatic/addict.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 21, 2022, 05:34:11 PM

According to this articles[1][2][3] gambling if done in moderation can give us the following benefits.

If I consider those who are involved in gambling, all factors cannot be separated from the individual himself in Moderation, my considerations in the article some of my studies agree but some don't.

Something interesting here that I read:
first.

Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 21, 2022, 05:34:11 PM

Improves your Skills - this is more focus on observation, reaction and mental task of brain on determining patterns and numbers. This is very beneficial to brain since it exercises our brain when engaged in gambling activity.

And the second:

Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 21, 2022, 05:34:11 PM

Potential for Big Wins Well gambling is a game of chance where if you got lucky and hit a huge multiplier, you can bring home a huge amount of money.

I've seen many studies that say as above and I myself admit and have experienced it, Skill and victory, indeed from some experience in gambling says so.

Conclusion: gambling is risky, for me health, profit, stress, happiness, social all of that cannot be separated from the way the individual thinks, the way they engage in gambling.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 21, 2022, 05:34:11 PM

Engaging in gambling in moderation will greatly save us financial losses compared to engaging in entertainment outdoor. Aside from that, recreational activities such as picnics, watching movies, and playing arcade games often have our finance in an outflow system. The only reward is entertainment and happiness whereas, if engage in gambling there is a chance of getting back what we spent since gambling always involved a chance of getting back what we bet in a certain multiplier. Of course, we are talking about gambling in moderation. Besides this kind of control, we are far from developing a gambling disorder.

Aside from the personal benefits, we are also contributing to our country's income by playing in their gambling infrastructure. It is proven that the development of gambling addiction in a gambling engagement in moderation is highly unlikely. With that, do you think it is worth moderating our gambling engagement to maximize the benefits of gambling activities?

I remember something interesting in the past personally, gambling is a medicine for our expenses when we are doing refreshing, you're right the picnic will cost us money but it also puts our mind at ease and I was lucky to get profit the refund maybe almost 3.2x during the picnic. Doing activities in nature is not bad, it is very good for your mind.

Moderating gambling is more appropriate maybe making rules for yourself, the money involved in gambling must be carefully calculated and only play gambling on certain days, well agree with that the pro players have even already do it but the problem it is not easy.

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Quote from: Wexnident on July 25, 2022, 06:59:28 AM

A simple mindset to have is to think of the money you spend to pay being like an entrance fee of sorts. Imagine computer rentals and stuff like that, you pay to play kind of thing (though the game being something simple like dice kind of kills the idea ngl).

TO me the financial instability and loss is a serious mental stress.
This destroys my health and make me sick too - I am not sure about other people but I have so much health issues when I am dealing with financial instability.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on July 25, 2022, 04:36:20 AM

It described a scientific invention of the distant future, which provided people with the achievement of homeostasis (physiological and psychological balance). It was a combination of special medical sensors (which recorded the smallest changes in the human body) and a first aid kit implanted in the human body.

At the slightest deviation from the norm, the drugs automatically entered the human blood and returned him to a normal psychological and physiological state. This was how the balance was ensured...

Undoubtedly, such devices would be very useful for gamblers in online casinos!

So it's something like forcefully making the state of mind of a person return back to normal? It's helpful but also kinda scary really since we'd then be able to pretty much force the body to produce the emotions that we want. I mean Pheromone exists but that's a different thing than this which is a simple stick that could control the state of a human being.

Quote from: Reid on July 25, 2022, 03:54:18 AM

Great share, I love it. Thank you. I always think of gambling that way after I had bad losses in the past. Mostly from dice.
When I felt that I was not having fun anymore, I stopped it. It became a habitual thing, not entertainment.
I think we all have to deal on some point about what is happening, gambling should be fun not adding more stress in our everyday routine.
Now, I love sports betting because it honestly hypes me up whenever I watch the game live with my bet being on the line.
I can say, I am now relieved with the stress and regrets that I experienced before.

A simple mindset to have is to think of the money you spend to pay being like an entrance fee of sorts. Imagine computer rentals and stuff like that, you pay to play kind of thing (though the game being something simple like dice kind of kills the idea ngl).

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 24, 2022, 05:57:23 PM

Quote from: Slow death on July 23, 2022, 05:53:17 PM

I will have to disagree with almost everything on these points:

- Makes you Happier: It will only make the person happy if that person wins the game, something that doesn't happen every day, which means that the person spends more time sad regretting losses than happy

Then the person gambles money that he can't afford to lose.

Quote from: Slow death on July 23, 2022, 05:53:17 PM

- Stress reduction: Huh

definitely not, people spend more time stressed, the fact that they are losing money on gambling makes them stressed

Same thing, the person uses money that is possibly committed to elsewhere thus, it gives him stress when wagering or betting, hoping not to lose the money.

That's right. You wouldn't be stressed that much if you lost the amount you could spend on something like cake or coffee. In fact, it could make you healthier, if you didn't buy those later. But if you lose money intended for baby carriage, that's a big problem.

Gambling in moderation is possible. It's not only possible, it's what most gamblers are doing. It is wrong to take a real minority, summat around 5%, who tend to be addicted, and say that all gamblers are like that.

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Quote from: Reid on July 25, 2022, 03:54:18 AM

Now, I love sports betting because it honestly hypes me up whenever I watch the game live with my bet being on the line.
I can say, I am now relieved with the stress and regrets that I experienced before.

It does hype you up most especially when the game are close and neither of the team may win. But it would be a different story when you bet on a team that's been down by a huge margin. That's actually very frustrating to watch. Your favourite team will have to lose with a big lead from the opposing team while your bet is on the line.
I've had it a handful of times and i turned off the TV and went outside to vent out my frustrations lol.

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The ancient Stoic philosophers wrote a lot about this in their time. The most famous Stoic philosopher was the Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius.

Stoicism is an ancient philosophical doctrine that promotes moderation in everything to achieve psychological and physiological balance. In modern science, this balance is called homeostasis. The Stoics taught that too strong emotions should be avoided, because they put a person out of psychological balance.

Stoicism applies to gambling as well. Don't try to win too much. You also need to try not to lose too much. The player needs constant control over their own emotions.

Seneca could be one of the most famous Stoics of his time as well (what's up with romans and stoic ideas? lol) and he had similar sayings about this as well. If you do not achieve that balance then you are going to be chasing one too much and end up with going too imbalanced and would result with something wrong.

The best thing in life is the moderation, if you do not live your life on that balance then you are going to lose your balance and fall. Gambling is the same, if you do not gamble at all then it's fine, if you gamble with just free faucet stuff then you will not find it enough, and if you gamble millions then you will be upset when you lose, so find that right balance.

Moderation is the key to appreciate the goodness of everything.
Because if you abuse one thing, that's when you will start having problems.
As mentioned by the OP, I can agree with those positive impact of gambling to people.
That is, if you know how to control yourself in front of the gambling table and know your limits.

I recently read a science fiction novel by the author Hamilton.

It described a scientific invention of the distant future, which provided people with the achievement of homeostasis (physiological and psychological balance). It was a combination of special medical sensors (which recorded the smallest changes in the human body) and a first aid kit implanted in the human body.

At the slightest deviation from the norm, the drugs automatically entered the human blood and returned him to a normal psychological and physiological state. This was how the balance was ensured...

Undoubtedly, such devices would be very useful for gamblers in online casinos!

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Great share, I love it. Thank you. I always think of gambling that way after I had bad losses in the past. Mostly from dice.
When I felt that I was not having fun anymore, I stopped it. It became a habitual thing, not entertainment.
I think we all have to deal on some point about what is happening, gambling should be fun not adding more stress in our everyday routine.
Now, I love sports betting because it honestly hypes me up whenever I watch the game live with my bet being on the line.
I can say, I am now relieved with the stress and regrets that I experienced before.

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Gambling in moderation is a fun adventure with so much pros, the cons of gambling starts when the idea of gambling been seen as a get rich quick scheme. Gambling is too emotional that you need extra care to maintain a fixed level of discipline and keep all activity in moderate level. One thing a gambler should learn is big risk is like a two edged sword it can be productive or disastrous. And disaster comes with frustration and suicide. Keep everything moderate and enjoy the fun

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The pros and cons are on both sides and are radical in every way they can go.For example when you play slots and you win let's say from 100 EUR balance and goes to 1500-2000 EUR as a winning result for this game play session you are very happy which your brain says it by creating dopamine in high quantities and also financially you are very happy because you won quite a nice amount of money.

Now when you lose that 100 EUR and you don't even get the bonus rounds that often,you feel not a great session of game play then it is only natural for you to be sad which is bad for the health and also financially you lost 100 EUR which you could have used to pay the electricity bill for example.

As we see in both cases they are in synchrony with each other,when you win you are happy and healthy and when you lose you are sad which can then impact the health if you are sad for a long time.

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Quote from: passwordnow on July 23, 2022, 05:07:03 PM

That freedom is sometimes being abused by us. We tend to forget that freedom should also be limited by us because if it gets too much, we know where we're heading.
Being responsible for our actions should really be there because as we do things through our freedom like in gambling, we're like to break free and that won't do good in the end.

I highly agree that too much freedom without any restriction will only destroy us. Having too much freedom will make us careless, for example, in a scenario of leaving alone and having lots of funds, we are able to play anytime and for how long we wanted. If we engaged ourselves in gambling activities 24/7 because we have the freedom to do so, this will greatly affect our physical, mental, and social health. So we moderate this freedom to engage in gambling activities to avoid the possible bad effect of our actions. Self-Moderation isn't suppressing freedom but rather balancing our activity for our own benefits.

in the context of freedom there is no absolute freedom of any kind.
The most important thing is how a person can control himself and prevent excessive gambling activities, one of which is by moderating.

limiting the amount in moderation is a highly recommended way for those of us who like to do gambling activities to minimize any loss and lead to addiction. but psychological changes are very vulnerable when the mood is controlled by emotions and this is a common thing that usually happens to us who like to gamble.
So IMO, it is not only limited to moderation that must be applied, but also involves a sense of responsibility to oneself.

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Quote from: serjent05 on July 23, 2022, 05:34:10 PM

Quote from: passwordnow on July 23, 2022, 05:07:03 PM

That freedom is sometimes being abused by us. We tend to forget that freedom should also be limited by us because if it gets too much, we know where we're heading.
Being responsible for our actions should really be there because as we do things through our freedom like in gambling, we're like to break free and that won't do good in the end.

I highly agree that too much freedom without any restriction will only destroy us. Having too much freedom will make us careless, for example, in a scenario of leaving alone and having lots of funds, we are able to play anytime and for how long we wanted. If we engaged ourselves in gambling activities 24/7 because we have the freedom to do so, this will greatly affect our physical, mental, and social health. So we moderate this freedom to engage in gambling activities to avoid the possible bad effect of our actions. Self-Moderation isn't suppressing freedom but rather balancing our activity for our own benefits.

That's true and it's a matter of your own decision for being free as you think you can anything that you want. Having a budget as you gamble, you think that it's okay that you won't limit your budget because you'll eventually win them back. But many times it has been proven that it don't go like that at most times. That's why it's destroying us and we're just realizing it too late when we're at the situation that it's hard to deal with and there's no other people that we can blame for that situation but only ourselves.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 21, 2022, 05:34:11 PM

Everyone has negative connotations when it comes to gambling activity but little that we know that gambling when done in moderation can offer great benefits to our mental and physical health and finance.

According to this articles[1][2][3] gambling if done in moderation can give us the following benefits.

Makes you Happier

Stress reduction

Relaxation and Comfort -

Helps with Socialization -

Responsible gamblers know all of these they've to strive on their limit and maintain their moderation, there are a lot of benefits to moderation and we can only moderate gambling if we are not very much into it like having a good family relationship, better working condition, and a healthy environment, that gambling will not take most of our time putting the right perspective in gambling will give us a lot of benefits and we can truly enjoy gambling.

If we live a balance lifestyle, I guess it’s way too far to fall into gambling addiction. Gambling is a form of entertainment, hence it also contributes to a positive well being of a person. But that’s not the case right now as gambling has been abused and become a source of living instead. In fact, a lot have ruined their lives because of gambling, except for those responsible and disciplined gamblers who always put gambling into moderation.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on July 24, 2022, 04:02:49 AM

The ancient Stoic philosophers wrote a lot about this in their time. The most famous Stoic philosopher was the Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius.

Stoicism is an ancient philosophical doctrine that promotes moderation in everything to achieve psychological and physiological balance. In modern science, this balance is called homeostasis. The Stoics taught that too strong emotions should be avoided, because they put a person out of psychological balance.

Stoicism applies to gambling as well. Don't try to win too much. You also need to try not to lose too much. The player needs constant control over their own emotions.

Seneca could be one of the most famous Stoics of his time as well (what's up with romans and stoic ideas? lol) and he had similar sayings about this as well. If you do not achieve that balance then you are going to be chasing one too much and end up with going too imbalanced and would result with something wrong.

The best thing in life is the moderation, if you do not live your life on that balance then you are going to lose your balance and fall. Gambling is the same, if you do not gamble at all then it's fine, if you gamble with just free faucet stuff then you will not find it enough, and if you gamble millions then you will be upset when you lose, so find that right balance.

Moderation is the key to appreciate the goodness of everything.
Because if you abuse one thing, that's when you will start having problems.
As mentioned by the OP, I can agree with those positive impact of gambling to people.
That is, if you know how to control yourself in front of the gambling table and know your limits.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 23, 2022, 05:53:17 PM

I will have to disagree with almost everything on these points:

- Makes you Happier: It will only make the person happy if that person wins the game, something that doesn't happen every day, which means that the person spends more time sad regretting losses than happy

Then the person gambles money that he can't afford to lose.

Quote from: Slow death on July 23, 2022, 05:53:17 PM

- Stress reduction: Huh

definitely not, people spend more time stressed, the fact that they are losing money on gambling makes them stressed

Same thing, the person uses money that is possibly committed to elsewhere thus, it gives him stress when wagering or betting, hoping not to lose the money.

Quote from: Slow death on July 23, 2022, 05:53:17 PM

- Relaxation and Comfort big NO

Probably the person is too excited and nervous on the result of his bet that makes him uncomfortable and unable to relax? So he should stop spending money that is committed elsewhere Grin

Quote from: Slow death on July 23, 2022, 05:53:17 PM

- Helps with Socialization: Grin

Big NO, on the contrary people stop being sociable because they stay at home playing online, you can see that many people who like gambling are not sociable

Not because a person is an introvert, all around him is also an introvert Grin

. Physical Casinos are flocks with players that look for social activities.

Quote from: Slow death on July 23, 2022, 05:53:17 PM

- Potential for Big Wins: this is the hope of all people who are in this world of gambling

Now I understand why the person can't relax and stress keeps piling in Grin

I do hope for this too but I just let it realized in my course of gambling engagement. Forcing it won't do us any good.

In short, gambling in moderation really works it is that sometimes other factors make us experience the other way around.

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Quote from: Jemzx00 on July 23, 2022, 11:48:45 PM

Quote from: Slow death on July 23, 2022, 05:53:17 PM

I will have to disagree with almost everything on these points:

- Makes you Happier: It will only make the person happy if that person wins the game, something that doesn't happen every day, which means that the person spends more time sad regretting losses than happy

- Stress reduction: Huh

definitely not, people spend more time stressed, the fact that they are losing money on gambling makes them stressed

- Improves your Skills: I agree with this part, the fact that the person has to think about new strategies for a certain game every day, that person exercises the brain at a high level

- Potential for Big Wins: this is the hope of all people who are in this world of gambling

It will depend on the perspective of each individual on how they'll be able to interpret their gambling activity. Just as OP said, this list can be achieved if you are gambling in moderation.
Not because you are losing means that you'll feel sad since it is expected that you will experience more lose than win on gambling. Also, it will depend on you if you gambling activity will make you feel relax and provide comfort which could induce stress relief.

I do understand the contrasting ideas behind gambling. I believe a gambler should fix his expectation first before gambling. He should also make himself open for possible losses or possible scenario that may happen during his gambling activity. Even if the person is gambling in moderation, he will still feel disappointed, and stressed when his expectation isn't met. So I believe moderation should be coupled with acceptance in whatever his gambling session resulted.

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- Helps with Socialization: Grin

Big NO, on the contrary people stop being sociable because they stay at home playing online, you can see that many people who like gambling are not sociable

Just to call this out. Not because a person is playing online he isn't sociable at all. There are certain reasons why a player uses online gambling, one is probably because convenience is far more important for him than socializing to others. But gambling isn't limited to online, there are physical gambling casinos where most people use it as a venue to interact with their friends and meet a new friends. And I found out that all the rest are just your personal thought about gambling

I do respect every one of it but gambling views isn't limited to our personal thought alone.

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