Gambling in Moderation, Pros can out weigh its Cons in Financial and Health? - page 9.

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Quote from: Smartprofit on July 24, 2022, 05:02:49 AM

The ancient Stoic philosophers wrote a lot about this in their time. The most famous Stoic philosopher was the Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius.

Stoicism is an ancient philosophical doctrine that promotes moderation in everything to achieve psychological and physiological balance. In modern science, this balance is called homeostasis. The Stoics taught that too strong emotions should be avoided, because they put a person out of psychological balance.

Stoicism applies to gambling as well. Don't try to win too much. You also need to try not to lose too much. The player needs constant control over their own emotions.

Seneca could be one of the most famous Stoics of his time as well (what's up with romans and stoic ideas? lol) and he had similar sayings about this as well. If you do not achieve that balance then you are going to be chasing one too much and end up with going too imbalanced and would result with something wrong.

The best thing in life is the moderation, if you do not live your life on that balance then you are going to lose your balance and fall. Gambling is the same, if you do not gamble at all then it's fine, if you gamble with just free faucet stuff then you will not find it enough, and if you gamble millions then you will be upset when you lose, so find that right balance.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 21, 2022, 06:34:11 PM

Potential for Big Wins Well gambling is a game of chance where if you got lucky and hit a huge multiplier, you can bring home a huge amount of money.

This is where i do see where most people do really focus on on which the pros would be seeing on this spot where someone could potentially earn huge amount of money specially on hitting
big multipliers or jackpots which you could actually say that majority of us gamblers do see this as a pro but we know that having that intent on a severe manner could really be ending up
on someone on ending up on being addicted thats why it would really act out as a double blade if you dont really make yourself in good control then you would really fall into the pit of addiction.
Majority of those things above are indeed the pro sides but if things turns out to be excessive then it would be eventually goes to the negative side of things.
So lets just be wary and careful on our actions is the key on making yourself safe.

This is why most experts advise doing things in moderation. Anything that is excessive is harmful both to our health and finance. Gamblers often ignore this kind of advice since they are too hooked on getting huge multipliers. We all know being greedy do not give a good result. We will end up either losing more or worst than that. That is why we should strictly implement gambling moderation. Let the big win take its course while we are playing in our perfectly planned responsible gambling engagement.

Yes, moderation is very important.

The ancient Stoic philosophers wrote a lot about this in their time. The most famous Stoic philosopher was the Roman Emperor Marcus Aurelius.

Stoicism is an ancient philosophical doctrine that promotes moderation in everything to achieve psychological and physiological balance. In modern science, this balance is called homeostasis. The Stoics taught that too strong emotions should be avoided, because they put a person out of psychological balance.

Stoicism applies to gambling as well. Don't try to win too much. You also need to try not to lose too much. The player needs constant control over their own emotions.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 23, 2022, 06:53:17 PM

I will have to disagree with almost everything on these points:

- Makes you Happier: It will only make the person happy if that person wins the game, something that doesn't happen every day, which means that the person spends more time sad regretting losses than happy

- Stress reduction: Huh

definitely not, people spend more time stressed, the fact that they are losing money on gambling makes them stressed

- Relaxation and Comfort big NO

- Improves your Skills: I agree with this part, the fact that the person has to think about new strategies for a certain game every day, that person exercises the brain at a high level

- Helps with Socialization: Grin

Big NO, on the contrary people stop being sociable because they stay at home playing online, you can see that many people who like gambling are not sociable

- Potential for Big Wins: this is the hope of all people who are in this world of gambling

It will depend on the perspective of each individual on how they'll be able to interpret their gambling activity. Just as OP said, this list can be achieved if you are gambling in moderation.
Not because you are losing means that you'll feel sad since it is expected that you will experience more lose than win on gambling. Also, it will depend on you if you gambling activity will make you feel relax and provide comfort which could induce stress relief.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 21, 2022, 06:34:11 PM

With that, do you think it is worth moderating our gambling engagement to maximize the benefits of gambling activities?

Gambling is a form of entertainment so there are definitely some benefits you will get from it. The only problem is people get too much addicted because of its huge price that you can win that can change your life IF you're lucky. Gambling in moderation only works for people who does it for fun and not for profit but for people who thinks it is the answer to their financial problem, it will only cause more harm to their health.

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First of all, thank you for bringing a topic with a positive approach, I think that you cannot hide or pretend to ignore the different cases of addiction that exist, but a "healthy" betting environment benefits more from the positive approach of those who are successful.

On the other hand, I am not very much in agreement with the comparison of going out to have fun or investing money in leisure time on the grounds that with betting we can have a return, I do not think that this is healthy in a betting approach.

On the contrary, it is a combination of both things, so that if I would have to give it a percentage of importance of the money destined for entertainment that includes games of chance, I would put it at 80% for entertainment outings and 20% for betting.

Nor do I believe that to contribute to the tax revenue of a country you should go to a casino or you have to justify your stay or bets online with that idea.

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I will have to disagree with almost everything on these points:

- Makes you Happier: It will only make the person happy if that person wins the game, something that doesn't happen every day, which means that the person spends more time sad regretting losses than happy

- Stress reduction: Huh

definitely not, people spend more time stressed, the fact that they are losing money on gambling makes them stressed

- Relaxation and Comfort big NO

- Improves your Skills: I agree with this part, the fact that the person has to think about new strategies for a certain game every day, that person exercises the brain at a high level

- Helps with Socialization: Grin

Big NO, on the contrary people stop being sociable because they stay at home playing online, you can see that many people who like gambling are not sociable

- Potential for Big Wins: this is the hope of all people who are in this world of gambling

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Quote from: AicecreaME on July 23, 2022, 07:38:47 AM

Moderate gambling is easier said than done, but it is true than gambling in moderation won't really be that bad to a certain individual. The only problem is that most of the time for most of the gamblers out there, pride always dictate them, as well as their ego. There are so many things that eliminates the word "moderate" in the world of gambling, I'll add up greed, frustration, and depression.

As I pointed out, just be on our usual. If we force ourselves to gamble moderately, it will just make us feel not contented. Learn how to control the emotion as much as we can as that's a problem if we allow ourselves to be slaves to gambling.

Even if we turned into gambling addicts, it doesn't mean we are at doom. Just be responsible. I know some people who don't gamble moderately and lose a decent amount regularly but still, they are the people who are still in control of themselves.

In other words, gambling moderately is not the solution but rather being responsible even how addicted we are.

This advice only works for people who will still have a house over their heads and food at the table even after a loss of huge amounts. This advice will not work on people who are still gambling even if they are only living from paycheck to paycheck. If you are one of those people who worries about rent every month but still has to gamble anyway, just try to get your fill and do other things to help you feel occupied. If you allow yourself to become addicted to gambling, your time is only wasted and your money will go down the drain without you moving forward with your life.

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That freedom is sometimes being abused by us. We tend to forget that freedom should also be limited by us because if it gets too much, we know where we're heading.
Being responsible for our actions should really be there because as we do things through our freedom like in gambling, we're like to break free and that won't do good in the end.

I highly agree that too much freedom without any restriction will only destroy us. Having too much freedom will make us careless, for example, in a scenario of leaving alone and having lots of funds, we are able to play anytime and for how long we wanted. If we engaged ourselves in gambling activities 24/7 because we have the freedom to do so, this will greatly affect our physical, mental, and social health. So we moderate this freedom to engage in gambling activities to avoid the possible bad effect of our actions. Self-Moderation isn't suppressing freedom but rather balancing our activity for our own benefits.

We know that there's no such thing about unlimited funds where if you do play that much then sooner or later you would really be finding yourself sleeping on the streets.Of course everything should really be in moderation because if not then that would really be causing lots of problems in the future. When gambling then it is really basically for fun but if you are really that lucky then winning or profits would really be just a bonus aside on the entertainment that you had get from playing gambling.It is understandable that things should really be in moderation or else you would really be that involving
yourself too excessively and we know that things having too much engagement and spending amount which arent supposed to be then that would really be resulting on some negative things ahead.

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Quote from: passwordnow on July 23, 2022, 06:07:03 PM

That freedom is sometimes being abused by us. We tend to forget that freedom should also be limited by us because if it gets too much, we know where we're heading.
Being responsible for our actions should really be there because as we do things through our freedom like in gambling, we're like to break free and that won't do good in the end.

I highly agree that too much freedom without any restriction will only destroy us. Having too much freedom will make us careless, for example, in a scenario of leaving alone and having lots of funds, we are able to play anytime and for how long we wanted. If we engaged ourselves in gambling activities 24/7 because we have the freedom to do so, this will greatly affect our physical, mental, and social health. So we moderate this freedom to engage in gambling activities to avoid the possible bad effect of our actions. Self-Moderation isn't suppressing freedom but rather balancing our activity for our own benefits.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 23, 2022, 06:04:05 PM

Indeed we have our own freedom, but freedom always comes up with responsibility. That said, we should be responsible in our actions, so gambling in moderation is one way of our responsibility to protect ourselves form harmful effects of too much exposure from gambling.

That freedom is sometimes being abused by us. We tend to forget that freedom should also be limited by us because if it gets too much, we know where we're heading.
Being responsible for our actions should really be there because as we do things through our freedom like in gambling, we're like to break free and that won't do good in the end.

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Quote from: goinmerry on July 23, 2022, 07:46:05 AM

As I pointed out, just be on our usual. If we force ourselves to gamble moderately, it will just make us feel not contented. Learn how to control the emotion as much as we can as that's a problem if we allow ourselves to be slaves to gambling.

Indeed we have our own freedom, but freedom always comes up with responsibility. That said, we should be responsible in our actions, so gambling in moderation is one way of our responsibility to protect ourselves form harmful effects of too much exposure from gambling.

Quote from: goinmerry on July 23, 2022, 07:46:05 AM

Even if we turned into gambling addicts, it doesn't mean we are at doom. Just be responsible. I know some people who don't gamble moderately and lose a decent amount regularly but still, they are the people who are still in control of themselves.

If a person became a gambling addict he then experiences an uncontrollable urge to engage in gambling activity. That pretty much a contradiction. Saying a gambling addict that are still in control of himself. Then that person isn't addicted at all.

Quote from: goinmerry on July 23, 2022, 07:46:05 AM

In other words, gambling moderately is not the solution but rather being responsible even how addicted we are.

And gambling moderation is the result of a gambler being responsible.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on July 23, 2022, 07:38:47 AM

Moderate gambling is easier said than done, but it is true than gambling in moderation won't really be that bad to a certain individual. The only problem is that most of the time for most of the gamblers out there, pride always dictate them, as well as their ego. There are so many things that eliminates the word "moderate" in the world of gambling, I'll add up greed, frustration, and depression.

As I pointed out, just be on our usual. If we force ourselves to gamble moderately, it will just make us feel not contented. Learn how to control the emotion as much as we can as that's a problem if we allow ourselves to be slaves to gambling.

Even if we turned into gambling addicts, it doesn't mean we are at doom. Just be responsible. I know some people who don't gamble moderately and lose a decent amount regularly but still, they are the people who are still in control of themselves.

In other words, gambling moderately is not the solution but rather being responsible even how addicted we are.

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Moderate gambling is easier said than done, but it is true than gambling in moderation won't really be that bad to a certain individual. The only problem is that most of the time for most of the gamblers out there, pride always dictate them, as well as their ego. There are so many things that eliminates the word "moderate" in the world of gambling, I'll add up greed, frustration, and depression.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 21, 2022, 06:34:11 PM

Everyone has negative connotations when it comes to gambling activity but little that we know that gambling when done in moderation can offer great benefits to our mental and physical health and finance.

well, this is related to one's perspective on gambling, it is undeniable that gambling has a negative connotation.
what becomes negative is the effect that is caused after gambling or we can give an example, someone loses all his possessions in gambling, or someone becomes bad after being involved with a lot of gambling activities.

in the modern era gambling is entertainment and has become a metropolis culture. Despite the positive effects described in the article above, I have to admit and agree.
and regarding the standard in moderation, I think it depends on the financial condition of a person and how he reacts so that the gambling he enjoys does not become excessive and does not make it something bad and lead to addiction.

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Gamblers literally don't need to stop. Just take a break every after a painful loss and they can return again in action.

Stopping to do gambling is not that simple and it needs a strong dedication to do. But in the very first place, there's no need to actually stop. Just take it slowly and make way to moderate our gambling activity. In that way, we are not fully falling down to the negative effects of gambling.

I know it's hard to resist the temptation of gambling and chasing our losses is always the thing on our minds.

But if we don't do anything to help ourselves, then big problems are ahead.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 21, 2022, 06:34:11 PM

Aside from the personal benefits, we are also contributing to our country's income by playing in their gambling infrastructure. It is proven that the development of gambling addiction in a gambling engagement in moderation is highly unlikely.

It also doesn't hurt to stop for good since it's better to help ourselves first before looking at the side of the casino as they can always find other ways to bring in customers if they're somewhat struggling.

Quote from: BitcoinPanther on July 21, 2022, 06:34:11 PM

With that, do you think it is worth moderating our gambling engagement to maximize the benefits of gambling activities?

It's always worth moderating just based on those benefits that were mentioned in the article and gambling activities can easily go out of control and quickly ruin someone's day or life.

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The essence of gambling is a game. Not so different from chess, jeopardy or reality TV. The main difference is money being involved. And some betting more than they can healthily afford in an effort to become filthy rich.

Like many games gambling can involve critical thinking, math, statistics, pattern recognition and other academic trends. There is a computational and intellectual side to gambling. Which is one of the reasons why fantasy sports tends to blur the lines separating games of skill from our traditional definition of what gambling is.

Hobbies like gambling can be healthy in moderation, and unhealthy when taken in excess. Like practically everything people encounter in life.

The wrong way to approach gambling is purely as a money making enterprise. Greed and money have a powerful negative influence on decision making. Approaching gambling with the intent to make money will often result in emotions influencing people into making irrational decisions. The goal is to separate things like emotions, money and greed which cloud judgement, from the act of gambling. To enable choices to remain logical and rational.

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Quote from: el che on July 22, 2022, 06:09:18 PM

isn't there some rule in the universe that everything should be done in moderation, it's important to have a healthy balance in life. from experience the more i chase something the more it eludes me while the more i sit back the more things come and attract to me.

Not all the times because even if you do sit and wait and as long there's no action had been taken earlier or something effort you have done then you are waiting for something that wont come but i do agree
into the idea about positive things to come but depends on what you are currently dealing with. Everything should be in moderation which is really a common sense because if you do
things on excessive manner then you would really able to expect that bad things would really be coming along and this is something that you should let for it to happen.
Gambling should be fun and not something stressful or would result for financial devastation.

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isn't there some rule in the universe that everything should be done in moderation, it's important to have a healthy balance in life. from experience the more i chase something the more it eludes me while the more i sit back the more things come and attract to me.

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Quote from: Quidat on July 22, 2022, 04:35:08 PM

People wouldnt care most of the times on which they are really that ignoring other peoples advice and wont matter if you are a professional or not because its their money and they do have the rights on
how they would be spending it.It isnt really bad to play gambling as long you do have the right control and discipline on how you should gonna spend up your funds and wont really be able to go
beyond your limit because that would surely fuck you up if you do spend up your money like having no tomorrow. Gambling doesnt automatically means that it is really a devastation into your financial
once you do step your foot on it but rather it would really be just coming into that point when you are allowing yourself on spending on the amounts which is really outside of your limits or the
things you are capable of.

That is why many gamblers that started having full disciplined end up being gambling addicts because they failed to listen to advice. I do agree, that gambling isn't bad in any way unless the one engaging on gambling activity loses his self-control. Gambling in moderation is always better than prolonged gambling even though a person claimed that he has full control of himself because prolong exposure to gambling and repetitive activities can dull a person's rationality and often times a cause of gambling addiction. Prolonged gambling can make a person lose his essence of time, and that is one of the sign that the person is losing control over his gambling activity.

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