Topic: Gambling Money is Dirty Money - page 16. (Read 5140 times)
Pro Contra about gambling does exist and it will stay like this forever, we have our own opinion about gambling as well as other opinion that is the opposite to our own opinion. We do need to respect each other opinions only, we should not force others to think the same as what we think. I respect those who thinks that gambling money is dirty money but I don't think that way. My own opinion is that as long as the money I used to gamble or I earn from gambling does not affect other people's life then I'll say it is clear money, the same as money that I earn from other sources.
I completely disagree with this notion that Gambling is dirty money, we gamblers don’t steal money and play with it rather we play using our hard earned savings. Religion beliefs are not always right and people should not follow them blindly, they should use logic and then make an opinion about it.
I don’t think these has anything to do with religious belief but rather morals because ideally we all know that any profit we make is gotten from some else’s loss. I may be gambling and feel there’s nothing bad with it but deep down I understand this aspect. Some weeks back I won some money on a casino site, I was really happy and on my way home, I met a friend in a public transport. He looked very down and when I asked him what the problem was, he explained to me how he lost so much money on a gambling site, it was even more than what I gained, and apparently, I won mine from his loss, I felt ashamed to even tell him about my win and deep down I felt guilty. Money from gambling is dirty, whether we agree with it or not.
But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries
It is about intent I always say as I understand and learn. And yes, strictly speaking this means as long as the income is from gambling even in a small way, then it is not possible for them to use it in a clean way.
But this is all personal matter to me, the state should not meddle when the state gambles with the economy all the time!
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong
But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries
Obviously, what the OP is saying is not dirty money.
If we will be talking about a money that did not comes out of something without doing wrong, then that is not money.
Dirty money is out of hand since he already defined what that is.
I do not consider it as a dirty money but I do think gambling makes your mind kind of null and you don't get anything worthy from it. So better is to leave it, than arguing about it.
Although, I sometimes gamble for entertainment, if i win then good, I would withdraw the capital and play with winnings, which I would lose sooner. So, I only withdrew my own money and not 'gambling money'.
If I lose I had lost it at the moment i brought it to the casino, no attachment.
Although, I sometimes gamble for entertainment, if i win then good, I would withdraw the capital and play with winnings, which I would lose sooner. So, I only withdrew my own money and not 'gambling money'.
If I lose I had lost it at the moment i brought it to the casino, no attachment.
everyone has their own opinions, we must respect that, and I also value your opinion about gambling, as long as there is no offending element,
but I'm sure gambling is not the right reason to make money, because gambling only makes us lose, and it's different from gambling owners, it will be profitable no matter what the method or form.
but I'm sure gambling is not the right reason to make money, because gambling only makes us lose, and it's different from gambling owners, it will be profitable no matter what the method or form.
Maybe we can agree that gambling is a part to enjoy life although some people will not agree with this. But yes, we have a different opinion about gambling itself, and we hope that everyone should respect others opinion.
As long as we can positioning ourselves in the right thing, I think we can choose whatever we want. And to gamble or not will be your option because we can feel what the best for us and we need to prevent the wrong thing that is not good for us. I agree that gambling is not a way to make money, and we need to know that.
If you are looking at it from a religious point of view, sure, it is morally wrong and you are not allowed to gamble.
It really is just a matter of point of view. Religiously speaking, yes, it's a sin. But on the other hand, I don't see it as a way of earning dirty money. 'Dirty money', for me, is something gained from an unjust way like corruption, or other illegal activities. In gambling, a person still somehow worked hard for it. I mean, he could've stayed long hours analysing the strategies that would and wouldn't work for him. As long as the money that he used to gamble is from his own pocket, then there's nothing wrong with it.
everyone has their own opinions, we must respect that, and I also value your opinion about gambling, as long as there is no offending element,
but I'm sure gambling is not the right reason to make money, because gambling only makes us lose, and it's different from gambling owners, it will be profitable no matter what the method or form.
but I'm sure gambling is not the right reason to make money, because gambling only makes us lose, and it's different from gambling owners, it will be profitable no matter what the method or form.
This doesn't really make sense to me because isn't everything in life considered a gamble if you break it down.
If you hold US dollars you are gambling that they won't experience mass inflation and devaluation?
If you hold stocks your gambling that there won't be a huge market crash.
If you hold gold your gambling the price won't crash again.
If you hold US dollars you are gambling that they won't experience mass inflation and devaluation?
If you hold stocks your gambling that there won't be a huge market crash.
If you hold gold your gambling the price won't crash again.
This is a pretty smart way of looking at it, as long as an individual understands that in most games against the house, he has a negative edge,
he should be free to exercise his free will. The political interpretations of Islam has unfortunately turned it into a medieval tool of control,
drastically limiting freedom of thought and action (whereas it's essentially a very personal religion, and can be very liberal),
hence the extremely backwards state of all nations that adopt Islam as their state's official religion...
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
I can understand why people still hold those beliefs about gambling, as we know a person that is addicted to gambling can lose everything very quickly but they are a very small portion of all of those that gamble, and it could be argued that those that are addicted to gambling could have gotten addicted to something else and still lose their money even if gambling was forbidden, so while I respect those that have those views I do not have any problem with someone that gambles for fun. My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
There so many religion on the world and every religion have their own faith and rules. Personally I don't hate any religion even that's no mine. I believe so many religion believe gambling is a dirty way to earn money. Money can't be dirty but the earning way could be dirty. I respect them also who had not received money from gambling. Because everyone should respect at least his own religion. So I don't think we should make argue about that.
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong
But OP also mentioned Islam in which I think he’s Religion and since it was forbidden from Muslim then it become Dirty money.no matter how good we deal with gambling yet it will be a Negative as not allowed by their religion and that’s the sad reality When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong
Also there are countries that treat gambling as illegal activities so this also applied to the people live in those countries
Depends on their beliefs because even it is dirty money it still money and we can buy needs because of money. I respect their decision about that but we have different person and that means different believe. Maybe for others gambling is dirty money but for the others it is still a money because they use it for their everyday lives. Im not a perfect person so I don't have rights for them of what they belief.
Besides from Muslims since gambling is not allowed, I don't see it right to be called dirty money. When we say gambling to random people, most would think of it as a bad thing because of stereotype. But for me, as long as it isn't coming from illegal gambling, then it's fine. They gamble for fun, or with the purpose of doubling their money, and I don't see it as something bad as long as they don't oppress someone. Not all gamblers are bad. And not all gambling are illegal. It's just a matter of how people perceive gambling.
To define 'dirty money' is money obtained unlawfully or immorally.
When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong
Dirty money can be classified indirectly and as mentioned it do pertains with religion.It might not be a serious matter on most religion but other When I think of 'dirty money' I am thinking about money obtained by doing something illegal or harming a person maybe even drugs
Since gambling is legal where I am from I can not consider it dirty
Like your examples I know of people who feed his family from playing cards- how is this dirty money if he does nothing wrong
do consider this as a sin so therefore any money that being generated or earned by means of gambling will be considered dirty
We have seen that there are people who do make a living with gambling and i agree on what you said that money that havent been obtained by means of
illegal aspect cant be considered dirty.
I can't resist if gambling is a something that can considered as a sin. Maybe that is why it is prohibited by government from a lot of countries. But i still play it. Sometime for me, gambling is when you play it and bet with money. But if play only for fun maybe like in web game like facebook game that allow us to play poker, i not think if that is gambling because not use our real money.
Facebook games like poker that you say can be categorized as Gambling. If the chips / balances in the game are traded, then that can be said to be gambling. Indeed gambling is prohibited a lot, but I personally also still play. This is my choice, and therefore I will not stop playing gambling. Although it is said gambling is dirty money.
I have been seeing a lot more gambling ads recently. A lot on facebook when I was using their marketplace and a lot on my Amazon Fire Tablet. Nearly every time I turn my tablet on the first page is a gambling ad for virtual slot machines or some other game.
Not because of religion or anything related to it but I feel most people tend to frown at gambling because of the bad effect it brings.
Most time, just like in the case of gamers, many gamblers slope in addiction which in turn brings so many negative behaviour.
There have been cases of gamblers stealing or using important funds just to get the fund to gamble. Also, some gamblers, totally depend on gambling as a source of income without doing any other business which is not suppose to be so.
I love to read gambling stories online from people who are once addicted just to know what others are passing through.
If gamblers know when to stop and put themselves in check, people won't be classifying it as 'dirty money'.
Most time, just like in the case of gamers, many gamblers slope in addiction which in turn brings so many negative behaviour.
There have been cases of gamblers stealing or using important funds just to get the fund to gamble. Also, some gamblers, totally depend on gambling as a source of income without doing any other business which is not suppose to be so.
I love to read gambling stories online from people who are once addicted just to know what others are passing through.
If gamblers know when to stop and put themselves in check, people won't be classifying it as 'dirty money'.
That's what you get if you mix cultures, religions, and politics as well as media you will will basically get a lot of different opinions on one kind of matter depending on what kind of belief they grow up in. This is how like alcohol started bad for the United States but it ended up being legal when time passes, now they have marijuana to considere being legal in the whole nation not only the states. What I'm trying to say is as long as the people have an open mind and you don't let the beliefs you have grew up with cloud your judgement your first impressions would change for the better.
I can't resist if gambling is a something that can considered as a sin. Maybe that is why it is prohibited by government from a lot of countries. But i still play it. Sometime for me, gambling is when you play it and bet with money. But if play only for fun maybe like in web game like facebook game that allow us to play poker, i not think if that is gambling because not use our real money.
Facebook games like poker that you say can be categorized as Gambling. If the chips / balances in the game are traded, then that can be said to be gambling. Indeed gambling is prohibited a lot, but I personally also still play. This is my choice, and therefore I will not stop playing gambling. Although it is said gambling is dirty money.
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