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legendary
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July 13, 2021, 07:24:18 AM
#52
The thing is, the government would likely want to block access to minors on games with some elements of gambling embedded on it. It's the best move, though I'm pretty sure minors would find a way to play the game especially if they are really into it. In order to prevent minors on being exposed to gambling, be better parents and supervise their playtime, or explain to them the possible consequences of gambling at an early age without being too harsh on them or too rude on them.

Games with some gambling elements would be hard to prevent honestly. GTA V alone is a huge game with loads of gambling references, elements, and features, and that game is being played by lots of minors for sure yet the government doesn't do anything about its existence.
hero member
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July 13, 2021, 06:39:46 AM
#51
I think that underaged players are more at risk to become addicted to gambling and to gaming than adult players. There need to be more strict regulations for games with a lot of underage players. There is a reason why most casinos only allow people above 18 to enter and gamble. The same needs to be done with gaming. All these loot boxes and kind of roulette games where you don't win money, but skins instead, shouldn't be allowed to be played by minors. Once hooked on gambling at a young age you will likely never be  able to enjoy it later again.
I tend to disagree, I guess adults are more prone on being an addict to gambling rather than this underage gamblers or players. This underage gamblers has no monetary capacity to gamble over and over again if they got out of stash. Better to ground them over what they do, what to give them especially over money matters and restrict them over what they do on mobile and PC gaming.
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July 13, 2021, 06:34:53 AM
#50
If you're worried about underage children gambling or curious about gambling, you might want to be a responsible adult and supervise so you can tell them that's too early for them or that it's not good for them since it's a vice. I think there is nothing wrong with making gambling look like you're just playing, that's part of how they want to make money.
hero member
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July 13, 2021, 06:20:06 AM
#49
I am sure most of you have played videogames of one short or another and many have noticed that may offer gambling in-game options - I am thinking mostly of Role Games and MMPORGs -  like implementing a casino or some short of fortune game. As an old example, Fallout New Vegas has an in-built game called Caravans, but you can play blackjack, roulette, etc... Newer games that are free to play or cheap to play offer lotteries that award prices such as unique or rare in-game items...

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

I remember that Dragon's Tale used to be quite a popular game where actual BTCs were involved.

I personally think that this is a particular niche. Gamblers can't all be put into one single characterisation - some prefer to play traditional casino games and others like to have a little flair to what they play.

For instance, I could never get around to playing Dragon's Tale because I just wanted to play a game and bet all in first bet without having to go through the fancy storyline or whatnot. But others absolutely swear by it.
hero member
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July 13, 2021, 02:39:00 AM
#48

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

I think that underaged players are more at risk to become addicted to gambling and to gaming than adult players. There need to be more strict regulations for games with a lot of underage players. There is a reason why most casinos only allow people above 18 to enter and gamble. The same needs to be done with gaming. All these loot boxes and kind of roulette games where you don't win money, but skins instead, shouldn't be allowed to be played by minors. Once hooked on gambling at a young age you will likely never be  able to enjoy it later again.
hero member
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July 13, 2021, 06:01:09 AM
#48
I don't think they affect or should affect people that much? It's a feature inside the game and not really the core of what the game is about, so sooner or later, people would actually forget about it or just acknowledge it as fun. They'd acknowledge the minigame INSIDE the game as fun, and not the gambling one. I also would like to say that most players aren't really stupid imo, I'm pretty sure they understand the concept of using money vs game currency in such games.

Now as for the latter, which I think is gacha maybe? or maybe something like apex's (BR FPS game) game packs or something? They're completely optional. It's not a necessity nor is it something one should actively spend money on, but rather a free feature of the game.
sr. member
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July 13, 2021, 04:39:08 AM
#47
Although the videogame includes games like a casino or other types of bets, but when it doesn't involve real money then I don't think it can be called gambling. It's different if it involves real money which of course is gambling even if it's done in any videogame that provides it, I personally in the past sometimes did gambling in videogames but for now I think things like this would be better to leave but it depends on individual.
Even if it doesn't involve money and it creates an idea on the youth the idea of gambling, it will still be a problem because you never know the tendency of a children's curiosity when it comes to different things, and some of them take action on that curiosity. It's an adult responsibility to guide and prevent children from being introduced to gambling at a really young age.
full member
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July 13, 2021, 02:32:31 AM
#46
this was not new tho but some games before already have lotteries and some has other forms of gambling .
 i heard there is also one in gta v where you can play in a casino but this is not going to far as long as there is no real money involved .
every player will still consider this as a video game and not more of a gambling because the story of the game does not totally rely on it


I've found some video games have gambling in them, but as long as it doesn't involve real money it's not really a problem. Because gambling in video
games is only a complement, it is very unlikely that it will have a bad effect. Actually, old video games have had gambling elements for a long time,
and I didn't like playing gambling when I played them. Because gambling in video games is not the main thing in the story, so we will not feel like
gambling. So it shouldn't make we addicted to gambling when playing the video game, but to be safer, it does prohibit underaged players from playing
video games that are a form of gambling.
member
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July 13, 2021, 02:22:21 AM
#45
If we are talking about underage gambling, that should be an adult's responsibility to stop them from doing so because what's the point of being an adult if you just let them get on with the vices this early in their life. It's not the fault of the casino that they make it look like this because they are just trying to make money too.
legendary
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July 13, 2021, 01:57:29 AM
#44
What type of effect may this game on underaged players?
VERY BAD!!! loot boxes or other in-game game of chance (like Gacha) that gives considerable rewards can be addictive. I remember there was a discussion(I am not sure if I read it here in the forum or read it in an article) regarding the danger of Loot boxes/game of chance inside the game and how it can be addictive and how it should be restricted to underage gamers.

I for one became sort of addicted to in-game lottery boxes(or similar to it), although I didn't really spend money buying it I spent a lot of time farming in-game currency in order to be able to buy lottery boxes from other players. it never affected me financially in real life but it did inside the game.

if anyone was curious what game it was, the game is Ran Online. I played the game on and off until the game closed.
legendary
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July 12, 2021, 11:30:14 PM
#43
Although the videogame includes games like a casino or other types of bets, but when it doesn't involve real money then I don't think it can be called gambling. It's different if it involves real money which of course is gambling even if it's done in any videogame that provides it, I personally in the past sometimes did gambling in videogames but for now I think things like this would be better to leave but it depends on individual.
full member
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July 12, 2021, 11:06:51 PM
#42
this was not new tho but some games before already have lotteries and some has other forms of gambling .
 i heard there is also one in gta v where you can play in a casino but this is not going to far as long as there is no real money involved .
every player will still consider this as a video game and not more of a gambling because the story of the game does not totally rely on it
hero member
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July 12, 2021, 10:15:51 PM
#41
It's not an issue I guess if the player is going to be honest about it's age, I mean only players that's age is 18 are the only ones who can access the gambling part of the game, they could ask for KYC verification for that part of the game to make sure that no underage are playing gambling instead of just MMORPG.

Adding gambling on a certain game means that they want to increase their revenue, simple as that, or they don't have the budget for another domain or team creating the gambling games alone.

Most players of course minor ignore this age restriction warning since all you need to do is to press that ypu are above 18 years of age. I am not seeing any issues here well it is up for minors' guardians to check their kids what kind of games they play.
Those kids will not try to access a gambling site if they have someone who will guard them, but I am not sure that guardians can always beside that kids since the kids nowadays are very smart to hide their activities while they use their mobile phones.
The kids can come to the gambling site by coincidence and do not even know if that is a gambling game site but they found many games they can try.
Even if that site needs KYC, the kids can solve it by borrowing adult identity and write it without a problem.
I prefer just to play the games than gambling because the risk of gambling will be there and I do not think that people can accept the risk, especially if they already made a mistake.
hero member
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July 12, 2021, 10:00:00 PM
#40
It's not an issue I guess if the player is going to be honest about it's age, I mean only players that's age is 18 are the only ones who can access the gambling part of the game, they could ask for KYC verification for that part of the game to make sure that no underage are playing gambling instead of just MMORPG.

Adding gambling on a certain game means that they want to increase their revenue, simple as that, or they don't have the budget for another domain or team creating the gambling games alone.

Most players of course minor ignore this age restriction warning since all you need to do is to press that ypu are above 18 years of age. I am not seeing any issues here well it is up for minors' guardians to check their kids what kind of games they play.
legendary
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July 12, 2021, 08:20:45 PM
#39
If there is no money involved or some kind of token or chip representing money, I think this doesn't fall under gambling in its strict sense. Underage kids are not prohibited to play roulette, blackjack, lotteries, and other games usually played with a wager or are closely attached to gambling. For as long as it is not played in gambling houses, casinos, or online gambling platforms and there's no money involved, I guess it is not illegal.

If these games are played with certain game items as prizes, I don't think it is already gambling. It is merely playing.
hero member
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July 12, 2021, 06:57:41 PM
#38
And the age limit is there for every game but I bet no one is going to follow it, if there is a pop up which are are you over 18? then everyone is going to click 'yes'. Smiley

worse is that there are many 18 year olds who still need to mature and have responsibilities and when they are exposed to things like gambling they lose in the world of addiction
People who become very responsible in their teenage or even before that and still there are many guys out there who wants to hang out all night so its all depends on their lifestyle but over 18 is some kind of general thing since government can't evaluate each personals mental strength and allow them to gamble or not, even government is not going to care about it as long as they make revenue in the name of tax so as an individual we need to learn everything.
We would know sort of things as we do grow older and be aware and that would really be varying on someones experience in life  and its indeed differs on each personal mental strength on dealing up into something specially with gambling-like activities but when you are just young and not being aware then its most likely you would be ignoring it.

Its been already in ages that those gambling similar activity in online games or mmropgs is there ex. rolling roulettes or even showing off some random cards for items
and you've been paying for it.

Its a personal choice neither you do get involved with that or not.
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July 12, 2021, 05:41:25 PM
#37
And the age limit is there for every game but I bet no one is going to follow it, if there is a pop up which are are you over 18? then everyone is going to click 'yes'. Smiley

worse is that there are many 18 year olds who still need to mature and have responsibilities and when they are exposed to things like gambling they lose in the world of addiction
People who become very responsible in their teenage or even before that and still there are many guys out there who wants to hang out all night so its all depends on their lifestyle but over 18 is some kind of general thing since government can't evaluate each personals mental strength and allow them to gamble or not, even government is not going to care about it as long as they make revenue in the name of tax so as an individual we need to learn everything.
hero member
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July 12, 2021, 05:13:25 PM
#36
~snip~
There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?
Video games are fun to play but I doubt gamblers will spend too much time on this since many prefer an easy game to win like on slots game, roulette and card game but with regards to a video games, a serious one will be the one to adopt and some will just ignore it. Though the idea is great, you just have to know who is your target market and do necessary promotions to attract gamers and gamblers at the same time.
^ The perfect question is who are those your target and that is right, I even don't have an interest in this kind of game, I prefer to choose sports betting or those betting games that are based on the house edge because there is nothing for you to worry. Probably the MMORPG will start adopting BTC now and use this as payment but who knows this belongs to the revolution games someday.
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July 12, 2021, 04:52:42 PM
#35
Look, this is an interesting question, but I'm a little doubtful, maybe I believe that KYC could be an advantage to separate people over 18 years old, and make it clear that in a given game there is the possibility of gambling.
I believe there are several factors that need to be analyzed
hero member
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July 12, 2021, 04:38:54 PM
#34
Not that far. AFAIK, there are games like GTA that have an in-game casino mission and we all knew the success that the franchise of this game. But it's a good idea for those matured content and theme games to have in-game casinos that would give in-game items and if they can, it should be in crypto for easier access and faster transfers. I think MMORPGs can easily have it and IIRC, I've played one of it but it's not a common game. And this feature is the one that's being done by those Dapps and blockchain games.
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