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legendary
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August 12, 2021, 03:19:22 PM
I sort of "like" the risky elements in the games. For example, one of the games I played the most in my life is NBA2K (played over 3k hours total) and they have this my team thing where you open cards and sometimes it is a very good player or sometimes it sucks and you spend money on it. You could get that money by playing or you could just buy it, I play it anyway so I do it with that a lot, but there were times in my life where I made a lot of money, in my nation inflation is 43% so I use every money I have right now on surviving, but back in the day the money I made (nearly same to now) was soooo much more, and I used it for buying coins to open packs.

It was seriously entertaining, sometimes it hurt me because I spent money and got nothing, but in the end it was always nothing, think about it you are spending it on a game, even if you get 10 of best ever cards, it is useless because you can't sell it. So, I really liked it and kept doing it.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
August 12, 2021, 11:50:30 AM
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on the other hand there's also these genius kids,
have you guys seen this?
A 12-year-old kid coded his own NFT project and made $160K in a day — an interview.

controlling time and directing kids energies to good things instead of bad things may be ways to go
Not every kid is like that kid, remember that if we force them to do things that we know they aren't interested in, they won't excel from it, it's just a good thing and a chance that this kid is interested in making these kinds of things. Of course teaching them good hobbies can help but we have to be careful not to drown them from expectations.

forcing people to do what WE want them to do instead of what THEY want is never a good idea and can result in trauma, I'd never educate a kid like that, the way is stimulating curiosity and exploration of the world.

but yes, not all kids will do things like that since luck also played a role on this situation
member
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August 11, 2021, 11:31:17 AM
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on the other hand there's also these genius kids,
have you guys seen this?
A 12-year-old kid coded his own NFT project and made $160K in a day — an interview.

controlling time and directing kids energies to good things instead of bad things may be ways to go
Not every kid is like that kid, remember that if we force them to do things that we know they aren't interested in, they won't excel from it, it's just a good thing and a chance that this kid is interested in making these kinds of things. Of course teaching them good hobbies can help but we have to be careful not to drown them from expectations.
hero member
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August 11, 2021, 11:23:30 AM
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It wouldnt really make that big or doesnt involved millions of dollars if it werent interesting  on the first place.Actually these are totally different markets which its understandable that when it comes to interest
then the amount involved  would neither be extraordinary or wouldn't really be that amazing at all.

As long there's demand and interest then you can really see these numbers that you never expect for a certain game or NFT's to reach on which is somewhat unusual or very rare.

it's crazy when you think about it but Axie is the biggest dapp in the world, first crypto applicaation to surpass 1 million daily active users and in the last 30 days had more than 3x revenue than ethereum as you can check on https://www.tokenterminal.com/ (300 million usd in the past 30 days)
I don't know what they are doing but they are doing it right.

but this is clear playing I'd say, not so many gambling elements on the gameplay

It was a success journey from this team, seeing how much support they've got from all the players and investors all over the world.

Like what you noticed, whatever they've done they completely do it right, more support from time to time and if you'll see how much worth profits
for holders just holders itself, they are really enjoying this NFT game.

hero member
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August 11, 2021, 10:28:12 AM
  I more comfortable in playing beside I've enjoyed I ease my bored. Since when I was a child I can not dennied to myself that I'm adding in playing specially now the Moba game which is the Mobile Legends I played also this game I felt challenging and fantastic that I can compete different players .But I also played gambling in my Liesure time it's also ease my bored and I separated my money according for my needs and wants.
When I was a kid, I am playing games for a long time. I do not eat anything because I do not want to miss anything from the games. I feel I am addicted too as you but fortunately, when I grew up, I can stop the addiction because I met many people in my school and made my day busy every day. That happens too in the gambling games because I am not too late to stop gambling as I have been accepted in one office that gives me a chance to make money instead of losing the money on the gambling table.

It is not normal to see a child have an addiction in the games because I can look at what happened to me when I was a kid. I do not want to see my kids playing the games all day long and I do not even want to see them playing gambling because the risk is too big for them.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
August 11, 2021, 07:44:58 AM
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It wouldnt really make that big or doesnt involved millions of dollars if it werent interesting  on the first place.Actually these are totally different markets which its understandable that when it comes to interest
then the amount involved  would neither be extraordinary or wouldn't really be that amazing at all.

As long there's demand and interest then you can really see these numbers that you never expect for a certain game or NFT's to reach on which is somewhat unusual or very rare.

it's crazy when you think about it but Axie is the biggest dapp in the world, first crypto applicaation to surpass 1 million daily active users and in the last 30 days had more than 3x revenue than ethereum as you can check on https://www.tokenterminal.com/ (300 million usd in the past 30 days)
I don't know what they are doing but they are doing it right.

but this is clear playing I'd say, not so many gambling elements on the gameplay
hero member
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August 11, 2021, 07:03:46 AM
I haven't tried doing this on another games but I did tried to use in-game items to bet and win in-game items but a better one and that game is dota 2 but a game having a built-in gambling type feature that use real money and win real money is I never heard or know any game at all. I only play online video games which you can only buy in-game currency where you can use it to buy items/weapons or gamble it on a lotto or spin to win rare items or better equipment.
hero member
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August 11, 2021, 06:54:31 AM
If I'm not mistaken this kind of methods was already used by the NFT games, like a game that has some type of gambling inside the game itself I was talking like creating new weapon for let's say $20 and you will randomly have different weapons price range from $10-$200 and it's a game of chance since you will not know what kind of item you will get or its rarity.
sr. member
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August 11, 2021, 06:22:21 AM
  I more comfortable in playing beside I've enjoyed I ease my bored. Since when I was a child I can not dennied to myself that I'm adding in playing specially now the Moba game which is the Mobile Legends I played also this game I felt challenging and fantastic that I can compete different players .But I also played gambling in my Liesure time it's also ease my bored and I separated my money according for my needs and wants.
legendary
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August 11, 2021, 06:08:08 AM
Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

Basically, the age of children is the age of play. They have the instinct to find and solve challenges in a game. They are purely in pursuit of victory. This is for normal children. But if they have been taught from a young age to win money from a game of course this is not right. We also have to be wise for this problem there is a certain time that we can use to introduce it.

For good parents, of course, they must always supervise their children in using their gadgets and always see what games they download and play, because lately there are several online gambling applications disguised as children's games available on the App store. It is unfortunate if minors play gambling based games, this will become a bad habit for them.

Good parents are the ones who keep a limit on everything their children do,in a tablet and in the app store they can install the games for their kids and then completely disable access to that app.Also good parents are the one who limit which websites their children can access and make sure the most notoriously known gambling websites are blocked,they also have setup their children laptop to not use VPN-s and give the kids only a normal user account and not an Administrator account.Although this does not guarantee 100% protection it is a great step toward that.
full member
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August 11, 2021, 05:56:49 AM
Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

Basically, the age of children is the age of play. They have the instinct to find and solve challenges in a game. They are purely in pursuit of victory. This is for normal children. But if they have been taught from a young age to win money from a game of course this is not right. We also have to be wise for this problem there is a certain time that we can use to introduce it.

For good parents, of course, they must always supervise their children in using their gadgets and always see what games they download and play, because lately there are several online gambling applications disguised as children's games available on the App store. It is unfortunate if minors play gambling based games, this will become a bad habit for them.
sr. member
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August 10, 2021, 05:59:23 PM
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You're right, a lot of people say that they only play for fun, I don't know if they do it to avoid giving information or using it in a diplomatic way, but that's very easy, of course there are people who actually do, but out of every 1000 people 1, and none out of 100, so the odds are low, not only in these gambling games, I have friends who play AXIE and they tell me they play because they like it and not so much for the money, I really don't believe them, there are Always the interest of making money, I think they say it because they think someone is going to ask them for money or something like that. Everyone who enters casinos or games is obviously looking to make money, because I think that nobody likes to lose money, and I think that everyone likes money.


That part with AXIE hehehe  Grin those who are playing this NFT games are more into money-making, I don't believe that they spend a huge amount of money to buy axie just because they are enjoying the game  Tongue

But it's the best way to protect yourself from someone who'll going to ask for money from you, so with those gamblers who are concerned with someone who'll going to lend them once they knew that they are winning from gambling.

There's the fun part but it's more enjoyable if you go out of casino winning some decent amount of money, you can have some beers and celebrate your successful play.

I agree that most are probably playing for money but this doesnt mean the games aren't fun, there's a huge community on it too
and a huge fenomenom with the blue-chip NFTs like Punks, apes and mystic axies selling for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

definitely an interesting space to watch
It wouldnt really make that big or doesnt involved millions of dollars if it werent interesting  on the first place.Actually these are totally different markets which its understandable that when it comes to interest
then the amount involved  would neither be extraordinary or wouldn't really be that amazing at all.

As long there's demand and interest then you can really see these numbers that you never expect for a certain game or NFT's to reach on which is somewhat unusual or very rare.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
August 10, 2021, 05:55:26 PM
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You're right, a lot of people say that they only play for fun, I don't know if they do it to avoid giving information or using it in a diplomatic way, but that's very easy, of course there are people who actually do, but out of every 1000 people 1, and none out of 100, so the odds are low, not only in these gambling games, I have friends who play AXIE and they tell me they play because they like it and not so much for the money, I really don't believe them, there are Always the interest of making money, I think they say it because they think someone is going to ask them for money or something like that. Everyone who enters casinos or games is obviously looking to make money, because I think that nobody likes to lose money, and I think that everyone likes money.


That part with AXIE hehehe  Grin those who are playing this NFT games are more into money-making, I don't believe that they spend a huge amount of money to buy axie just because they are enjoying the game  Tongue

But it's the best way to protect yourself from someone who'll going to ask for money from you, so with those gamblers who are concerned with someone who'll going to lend them once they knew that they are winning from gambling.

There's the fun part but it's more enjoyable if you go out of casino winning some decent amount of money, you can have some beers and celebrate your successful play.

I agree that most are probably playing for money but this doesnt mean the games aren't fun, there's a huge community on it too
and a huge fenomenom with the blue-chip NFTs like Punks, apes and mystic axies selling for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

definitely an interesting space to watch
legendary
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August 10, 2021, 04:20:16 PM
I am sure most of you have played videogames of one short or another and many have noticed that may offer gambling in-game options - I am thinking mostly of Role Games and MMPORGs -  like implementing a casino or some short of fortune game. As an old example, Fallout New Vegas has an in-built game called Caravans, but you can play blackjack, roulette, etc... Newer games that are free to play or cheap to play offer lotteries that award prices such as unique or rare in-game items...

There is currently quite an effort on using these techniques in games that should not be about gambling or chances playing and some people may find undesirable. Is this going too far? What type of effect may this game on underaged players?

There are very few things that I agree with the Chinese government about, but they have got one tiny little thing right - which is limiting the exposure and length of time that kids have to computer games these days. It's building a rather slow and boring society where the only social interaction is taking place in virtual worlds. That does make it easier for companies to manipulate us with the sort of transactions you describe and the youngest - who's brains are still growing - can be stunted or morphed to these sort of addictive games. Once you have an addict in any form, they can often go to extreme lengths to keep fulfilling or repeating the same actions, such as buying items or virtual currency with whatever cash they have available to them.
legendary
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August 10, 2021, 03:41:13 PM
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You're right, a lot of people say that they only play for fun, I don't know if they do it to avoid giving information or using it in a diplomatic way, but that's very easy, of course there are people who actually do, but out of every 1000 people 1, and none out of 100, so the odds are low, not only in these gambling games, I have friends who play AXIE and they tell me they play because they like it and not so much for the money, I really don't believe them, there are Always the interest of making money, I think they say it because they think someone is going to ask them for money or something like that. Everyone who enters casinos or games is obviously looking to make money, because I think that nobody likes to lose money, and I think that everyone likes money.


That part with AXIE hehehe  Grin those who are playing this NFT games are more into money-making, I don't believe that they spend a huge amount of money to buy axie just because they are enjoying the game  Tongue

But it's the best way to protect yourself from someone who'll going to ask for money from you, so with those gamblers who are concerned with someone who'll going to lend them once they knew that they are winning from gambling.

There's the fun part but it's more enjoyable if you go out of casino winning some decent amount of money, you can have some beers and celebrate your successful play.
legendary
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August 10, 2021, 11:57:49 AM
Those people saying that they are just playing for fun isn't the reality to found. No, they will spend money and time as their main goal is to win if they are lucky and these people could literally get mad once they lose.
These days, we found out that young ages are already exposed to this thing. They might just come and started with a simple game but we sometimes notice that these guys are using this for gambling. This has now become a problem as there is no age restriction and that will be hard to control in the future.

You're right, a lot of people say that they only play for fun, I don't know if they do it to avoid giving information or using it in a diplomatic way, but that's very easy, of course there are people who actually do, but out of every 1000 people 1, and none out of 100, so the odds are low, not only in these gambling games, I have friends who play AXIE and they tell me they play because they like it and not so much for the money, I really don't believe them, there are Always the interest of making money, I think they say it because they think someone is going to ask them for money or something like that. Everyone who enters casinos or games is obviously looking to make money, because I think that nobody likes to lose money, and I think that everyone likes money.
hero member
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August 10, 2021, 01:14:38 AM
In all cases, mostly underages have an interest in games so I don't think implementing gambling-based fun is suitable for this audience.
But, corporate are trying to make those underages into gambler as early as possible which must be the reason these days games are coming up with optional gambling things. This is definitely not a healthy sign when considering about the future generations and their focus on academic.

It will always be the parent's responsibility to look for their children on their activities in front of the computer or mobile.
Yeah, at the same time, when technology and corporate are in intention to addict underages to gambling somehow, then whatever steps parents do follow may end up in vain. Corporate must feel their social responsibility along with profit making.
hero member
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August 09, 2021, 05:29:41 PM

Even though you can't cashout profit from these games I think it's still not advised for kids, because they can become addicted. Until the kid wins the desired reward, he won't stop investing money in the game, especially because these online games' rewards are offered for limited time, so it must be achieved fast. Personally, I wouldn't let my children invest money in online games besides traditional membership packages.
These betting features are made in a way to force you to keep spending tons of money without limits in order to collect all the game's items. And doesn't matter how much money you put on it, you will be never able to reach 100% of the game collectibles.

I am not yet a parent but the thought of me that a child may possibly engaged in a game or in an online game with a money involve is beyond my imagination but possible. The kid don't know what this money involved game is all about and this is where the role of the parents should be call of. This is where the thought of fear of mine coming from for the child even if its not my own child but introducing technology to a child is inevitable so the one thing that a mature person besides a child while she/he grows plays a vital role is guiding them and teach them wisely.

You've said it right.
It will always be the parent's responsibility to look for their children on their activities in front of the computer or mobile.
Parents of millennial generation might not going to have any difficulties in identifying online games suitable for children or not because most of us is already computer literate than the Gen x and the boomer's generation.

On the other hand, Online games who instilled gambling as part of the game is another marketing strategy to attract more players and could potentially add in-game resources cash inflows.
hero member
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August 09, 2021, 05:17:28 PM
It is all about budget, if you can afford to gamble then it is going to be the first option to have fun. Video games also have in-game gambling options, GTA should have a small casino inside the bar, some players can gamble there to increase the gameplay money. In all cases, mostly underages have an interest in games so I don't think implementing gambling-based fun is suitable for this audience.
Those people saying that they are just playing for fun isn't the reality to found. No, they will spend money and time as their main goal is to win if they are lucky and these people could literally get mad once they lose.
These days, we found out that young ages are already exposed to this thing. They might just come and started with a simple game but we sometimes notice that these guys are using this for gambling. This has now become a problem as there is no age restriction and that will be hard to control in the future.
hero member
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August 09, 2021, 04:31:05 PM
And what habits could they be? Spending more than you earn? Taking into account the fact that parents manage money, I think that they will quickly explain to the child that money is not endless and should be spent wisely. However, the child receives this knowledge in any game where there are finite resources.
Games that has money involve can still be considered as a game because there’s no way for you to get money in return aside from placing your own bet which I think is already happening in some country where the Children can bet and play that game. Gambling is too risky and can be very addicting, Children still have a weak emotion, this is not for them and we have to monitor our Children especially on their time online to avoid them from spending too much money that can lead into a gambling.

Elements of gambling are found even in those games where there are no purchases for money. Almost every game has resources and they can be spent in different ways. Very often these expenses are probabilistic in nature - like sharpening weapons in Lineage, for example. Whether we like it or not, children encounter gambling very early on.
I agree that there are elements of chance in every single game they play, so if for example they want a certain item and they do not get it at the first try they may try to farm it, however that is not the issue in my mind, most kid are not mature enough to actually gamble for real money and in many games of today that is possible, and while there is nothing wrong with gambling as long as you understand what you are doing a sit is our case a kid is not ready to take that responsibility.
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