Topic: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction? - page 10. (Read 2381 times)

That is why we must first know and understand about what and how the activity we are currently engaged in is, or what is meant before you decide to get involved in an activity, at least know first about the negative side of the activity.
On the other hand, talking about promotional shows carried out by streamers, I think it is very unlikely for them to tell the audience about the magnitude of the negative impacts that can be caused by gambling, especially when someone is trapped in a cycle of addiction, because if they tell the audience that, of course the number of viewers who will join will decrease and of course that means the commission they will get from the casino will not be big either.

And that is why most streamers tend to always show very tempting winning amounts, none other than the goal of getting more viewers interested and registering on the site they are promoting.
But of course apart from all that I quite agree with the idea of ​​your last paragraph that he should not make himself a victim of the negative impacts of gambling.

Minors should not be on social media in the first place, minors having access to mobile devices with internet connection which grants them access to social media and gambling contents goes a long way to show how decayed our society has become.

Streamers are doing their business, streaming is their business and it's where they possibly make their money from, and the fact is that, non of this streamers have ever forced any one to watch their shows and even mimick or try to do what they do in the streaming show, most of the gamblers who watch gambling streamers and at the end, try to do the same thing they watched the streamer do is only doing so at their very own risk.
Because as a fact, we ought to know that many of this wins we see them achieve while streaming has already been programmed by the casino they are promoting in through their stream.

Watch gambling streams for fun only, don't try to do the same thing the streamer did hoping to get or achieve the same result the streamer achieved, you have yourself to blame if you do.

I guess he doesn't really understand how the risk of gambling until he becomes addicted to gambling. If he realize that, he will not lets him deeper in gambling but always be careful when spending his money.
Besides addicted to gambling, he can lost his minds by talking alone so that should make the audience understand what is the danger of gambling.
Streamers should promote the casino but he must always take care of himself so he must know that gambling gives a big temptation to all. He can use gambling for fun and always reminds that he is work to make money by promoting the casino but not for playing gambling to make money.

No difference if it's slots, CS2 skins, or FIFA pack openings. If you're streaming this shit on Twitch or Kick, you're fueling the addiction of minors.

It's a completely different story if you do this stuff in your free time, but streaming to a super young audience on Twitch or any other platform is just dogshit.

But of course, platforms won't ban anything slightly gambling-related, because it brings tons of traffic to the platform. So this is a quite pointless discussion.

What's funny is that today I read an article about a guy who started out as a slot streamer and ended up as a problem gambler with incredible debts and an addiction. He was a young man from the capital, from a wealthy family, he wanted some fame and started streaming how he spins slots.
And I was shocked: in the photo there was a great guy, but during the streams he behaved like a moron who was let out of a cage. He addressed himself in the third person and reacted violently to every win.
Addiction divides personality, that's for sure.

A big problem indeed, even those who really not engage into gambling but when they idolize a streamer they might get the attention and stat playing, those minors who are engaging with what streamers are doing they are prone to believe with what they are seeing and the tendency is they will try and the sad part they might engage deeply to the point that it will fuel addiction.

Streamers though are not worried as they doesn't care about implication as they are more on the money, they do their job and they will recieve their paychecks after.

It was always an object of huge curiosity, why people watch gambling streamers. I can understand those who watch video games walkthroughs on youtube, because they either dont have pc/console or money to buy that game, but are curious to find out what is game and story are about. We know that people envy when other achieve big wins. Because of that, people watch gambling streamers because they line to see how others lose money, while they dont? Or I dont understand, where is the point of watching how others manage to get rich by gambling.

This may not apply to all cases but for the big streaming personalities, they could actually be working with the casinos and getting paid as a promotional measure for the casino but the audience would not understand and would just follow and in situations where they loose the casinos get to make more profit so it could be true the streamers account could be test net accounts but now the cases of the minors I think there's usually ratings for some streams it's probably the minors who have refused staying off based  off the ratings.

Gambling streeming should be regulated if possible as a measure to keep the minors away from getting access to them this is what I suggest but I don't know how achievable it is but if it is I think it will help a whole lot to keeping minors away from it and not grooming addicts at a very early age.

Majority of streamers ars are been paid for the ad you see them doing, and that is why the casino gives them fake accounts to make people feel that gambling is easy to make profit by all those wins. However, streamers can call white, black because of the pay they have collected. They lie to earn a living and mislead people into big loss just to make money for themselves.

This is why, you should not invove yourself in gambling because you want a way out of poverty or because you are too lazy to work, otherwise, you will fall for these streamers. Gamble because you enjoy the fun, and accept the fate of your bet.

The only streamers who are often contacted by online gambling casinos are those who have large numbers of followers on Facebook and YouTube most of the time. That's why many influencers promote online casinos because the minimum per stream is 400$ per live stream, the commission is separate from the referral bonus.

And when there are millions of followers or subscribers, the price for each live stream is 1000$ or more, if you can stream 10 in a week, it's 10 000$ in just 1 week. just imagine that but many lives of people will be ruin because of them.

A casino, an exchange, a wallet, new MMO, dating site, soft drink, collector, tv show, list goes on and on, all advertise to try to get business for the product they are selling. Doesn't matter if you see their ad on your TV, in someone's signature space on a forum, on twitch, a billboard, kick, or youtube. An advertisement is an advertisement no matter where you see it.

As a society it is our job to teach our kids the dangers of engaging in some activities as well as the good things out there. Gambling, drugs, addiction, jobs, skydiving, flying, or whatever. You are constantly learning from the day you are born. Not everything is bad either, some can be both.

If a minor is watching a gambling stream and becomes addicted to gambling and starts stealing, who's fault is it? Is it the kids for finding the content? The parents for not monitoring their child's internet activities? The gambling site? Who's at fault? Lot's seem to want to blame the gambling site, but all they did was sell their product. If you are teaching your kids how to be responsible, there wouldn't be an issue IMO.

I don't feel like many want to take responsibility for their actions these days. Everybody just wants to do whatever and say fuck the consequences until they find themselves buried in debt or in jail.

About the testnet accounts or whatever, some streamers play on demo mode, some are given money to make a stream with. Everyone is different.  Regardless of whether they have higher RTP somehow or endless money, what they are selling is this is what could happen if you are gambling on xxxx site. They're not guaranteeing you will win, hell most of them tell you NOT to gamble.

I totally agree with you, streamers are just doing the job they are paid to do…. By following streamers, people create an illusion for themselves that it is easy to make a profit by gambling. There is so much bad content on the internet, people need to know how to tell the difference between what is just advertising and what is possible in real life.

No one forces anyone to gamble, we make the choice ourselves... and we ourselves are responsible for everything that happens. It's easy to point fingers and blame everyone else for your mistakes, what's hard is to take responsibility for your own actions. And that's what most addicts do.

I've seen many famous influencers in our country (PH) where they made a huge transition from streaming online games to now streaming playing casino games on their page. I find them disgusting at first, but after a while, I realized that they just did it because they're in need of the money, and I don't blame them if they do it because at the end of the day, we need money in order to survive.

As for these influencers using fake accounts, there's no proof that they're using it, and I believe it's only a theory. Maybe those who are saying that they're using a testnet accounts are those who are criticizing or have hate on that particular influencer. As for the audience though, it's not fine especially when you're a minor and you're watching your favorite influencer playing casino games, but on the other hand, these influencers always say that if you don't have spare money to gamble, don't gamble at all. If you can't control yourself when you're gambling, don't gamble at all. IMO, they're streaming casino games, but still they're giving warning to the viewers about the negative things that gambling can do to one's life.

At the end of the day, it's all up to us if we will gamble on the website they're promoting or not. We can watch them, but it's our decision if we will gamble or not.

It is indeed rare for a streamer to end their broadcast with a loss, even I myself from all the streamers who gamble have never seen them end up losing, all the streamers I watch always end up winning even though occasionally I see them almost end up losing but strangely luck always happens and makes them win, this strengthens my own thoughts that they do have a partnership with the casino with the aim of making many people interested in the casino they promote and this creates the opportunity for addiction.
But are we going to blame the streamer or the casino when the results are not in accordance with what happened to the streamer? it is possible but there is no point in doing so, when we experience the opposite happening to the streamer we have to blame ourselves why we are interested in it, realizing that it is just a trick to withdraw and knowing that winning in gambling is based on luck. 

And if they do, then what can you do? Blocked them or demanded from your kid/s not to follow them?


All of them do it for the money, plain and simple. Either to get a bigger paycheck or to have a free balance in the casino that promoting. Some of them don't even care to play but rather to get as many referrals as they can. They get their commission from them and that's it.

Most streamers account are just fake accounts that they must have gotten it from the casino they are promoting for the purpose of publicity of the casino and not because they are doing for fun. Although some streamers are for real and are sincerely doing it for fun and to also gain followers on their channels but I see so many of them that are fake account judging by how they do the streaming.

I think that as long as a streamer is completely upfront about their affiliations and any advantages they may have, then being a gambling streamer is perfectly acceptable. The tricky part, which is not necessarily the fault of the streamer, is the potential for a devious casino to rig their account and make it seem to masses of people that the win rate is much higher, if they can tweak their algorithm for this one account. There would be no way to detect this and just moving the win rate a few percentage points could give a very false impression of actual returns, they could also trigger off bonuses more frequently or give the end user jackpots that the average player is unlikely to win, if you are being completely cynical.

steamer will trigger addiction, because we can clearly see that they often win quite a lot of money, well and what I believe is that they use tester accounts, and show their followers that they do it with real money, so clearly they will trigger addiction because they say that we can also win like them
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Streamers make a service popular with the masses. I believe it starts with them, and the goal of wanting and idolizing them is a problem. I think they want the paycheck for the promotion they are doing. What I don't like is the impact on the possible minors who idolize them or want to be like them. I hope that the platform controls it in some way.

They are definitely fueling an addiction with all their deals and filled balances daily, people get tempted to play watching them and hoping they will also win big as they do but thats not the reality of gambling.