Topic: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction? - page 9. (Read 2381 times)

There'll be no means possible for the viewer's performance to near the success rate of those streamers. While it's addictive to watch and enjoy seeing others win big, the impact it has on potential gamblers is dangerous to their finance, because of the assumption that winning big requires a bigger bet. And that's exactly what streamers portray for their followers to learn. Isn't that a treat for a beginner to start with?

However, with such a communicative control, streamers would have been the best tool to instigating responsible gambling on people, but the reverse is there, and it has a lot to teach about the aim of casinos using streamers to increase compulsive gambling.

Youtube, Facebook, Instagram etc didn't allow people to live stream gambling. Gambling streamers are mostly stream in Kick, how can minors know about Kick? it's not easy to find this site since it's not popular.

What you see the new generations is stupid in social medias is just tip of the iceberg, while most of them are really smart, creative and better than the previous generations. They're more talented, it just that the previous generations are jealous and don't want the new generations to take over their titles/positions.

Just think about it, casino streaming is an explosive mixture. At the same time, gambling affects the gambler psychologically, and this is no small thing. This includes excitement and frustration and intermediate small joys when winning. But if the gambler streams and talks to himself and the audience, then this is another big factor in the load on his nervous system. And this may not be noticeable at first, but I am sure that after several such streams, such a gambler will be emotionally exhausted.

If the warning was directed at minors, regardless of how much warning people say it doesn't really have any effect imo. They're called minors for a reason. They're tiny little brains aren't that developed to think about
how gambling can negatively affect them. Or at least, most of them don't understand that. Especially in the recent generations where afaik, the level of intelligence seem to have dropped somehow. Or maybe that's just what social media feeds me to think but anyway, regardless, they don't really understand the repercussions of gambling both their time and money away.


If it was your average adult pretty sure they have they're able to think for themselves, warning or not.

The most important question is different. Why gambling streams are still allowed on big streaming platforms?
Some countries have very strict anti-gambling regulations, when it comes to offline gambling, and yet they don't do much to stop and regulate online gambling. This includes the promotion of online gambling via streaming platforms. The US gambling regulators could simply force platforms like Twitch, KIK and Youtube to ban gambling streamers. This hasn't been done yet, for some reason.
Anyway, to answer your question. Gambling streamers are promoting both fun AND are fueling gambling addiction. Gambling is fun(at least in the beginning), that's why most people get addicted. If gambling wasn't fun, nobody would ever get addicted.

But the streamers can always warn their audience not to playing gambling excessively or use too much money but only use gambling as for fun. If they can do that, at least they invite their audience to be more carefully when playing gambling and responsible with what their audience will do. They can not follows what the streamers do because there is a differences of many things.

Maybe that can makes their audience realize that all things that the streamers serves to them will be for entertainment only so they don't have to playing gambling. If all people can treat gambling as a fun thing, no one will gets a problem from gambling.

Yes, of course, researching to find out and understand what activities you are actually going to do applies to everything you find, not just gambling, because sometimes even though there is no impact from the activities you want to do, of course when you don't know what the activity is really about, it will lead you to various inappropriate actions and even cause problems.
Another thing, as you said, is that there are some people who are able to maintain themselves and their rational mindset when they see everything that looks tempting and there are also some people who are unable to do it.

This means that for some people who are unable to maintain their rational mindset in responding to everything they find, it is very possible for them to easily fall into and get trapped in the wrong place, such as thinking that they will also be able to achieve big wins like those achieved by streamers or even thinking that gambling is the right place to overcome financial problems. So in conclusion, I think the key is to maintain a level of awareness and a rational perspective so that you can think that everything that seems too easy to get is unreasonable.

You are right, most likely what will happen with many people watching it will only have a negative impact, because usually streamers show games where they managed to get big wins and of course most people who watch it will definitely be interested and want to try it, but unfortunately there is no guarantee that people who try will get the same results as the streamer. This makes it possible for many people to become addicted. But maybe this also depends on the mindset of each individual, because if from the start watching but with a good mindset maybe no one will be interested in trying it, maybe there is but there is still a side of awareness that is owned where when the results are the opposite of what the streamer got, it doesn't make us addicted but realize that this is just a way of withdrawing which is done to make the casino being promoted more visitors.

This is really alarming nowadays, you can't control who's going to be the audience that could see these streamers online through social media. I've observed this several times, and minors or even kids got stucked through gambling promotional ads which viewers couldn't skip the videos. It even pop up through android applications that has a priority actions through your phone functions. I don't think it's gonna be fair enough for parents raising their kids, without even knowing that their children have been slowly learning or desiring to engage themselves with gambling.

Undoubtedly. I see nothing wrong with a streamer getting a casino to sponsor them if they promote the casino as long as they are from a region where gambling is legal. All a streamer needs to do is write a note somewhere during the stream that gambling can be dangerous and anyone who gambles should understand the risks involved and gamble at their own risk, other than that, they aren't obligated to do anything and it's the responsibility of the viewers to understand and decide what is good and bad for them.

As for the children who might be watching such streams, I would blame the parents and elders for allowing them to do that, and streamers would usually have their restrictions set so that only people with account ages above 18 or something can watch them. So if kids are watching YouTube Kids, they aren't going to stumble upon such things in general.

I think this might be the same about video game streamers and thus, at least there are those who actually follow or practice what the streamer does or they just enjoy it by watching it. But indeed, what the streamer does I think will have more negative impacts because after all, if they only play gambling with a demo balance then it will make the game easier to win. Unfortunately, many viewers end up following the way they bet but unfortunately, these viewers use real money so in reality more of them experience defeat. Thus, the negative impact is that it triggers addiction so that it will be bad for their social and financial lives.

Personally, I will never believe streamers game because there games are too real to be true. If streamers are making, there should be atleast 10/100 that should be making the same thing as them but most often, it's a scam promotion just to make people fall for whatever they are promoting for that time and when they are done giving the PR and referrals, they move to the new casino games that offer them money for marketing their casinos to their customers.

Think about it, do you think people will play a new game in a new casino that is looking for users and new players when they see their mentor losing? Definitely they will not, that's why the casino and the streamers has to make a collaboration about the new game and gave them a special login, that can only be their on user interface and no other person will have access to it even though it look real and not testnet account.

Well, the casinos Business model is very broad , Obviously marketing for people who are quite Famous because they take advantage of them to advertise them , so in this order of ideas , Primarily the streamers get money, and as for feeding the Addiction , I don't think so , I Don't think the level of Evil of any person goes that far , I think what they are Looking for is more customers for the casinos, it is something normal, but they make it Clear that with very influential people , their Public will follow them wherever they go and doing what they do is valid.

I will not say all of them are fake streamers who took money from the casinos and made their stream on those casinos for promotion I think most of them are fake but there are also some legit gamers i.e. gamblers also. As we know all kinds of sectors have bag and good both peoples.
But personally I never watch those gambler stream, But I saw some of my friends give their time on their stream so that they will also have good chances to win. And moreover they are also looking for bonus codes on the streamers live. But I haven't saw any of them success by using the tactics that are used by the streamer. I am again want to say that most of them are fake streamers who are promoting the gambling sites and as well on some people they are also fueling the gambling addiction.

Both of your concerns can be true. It's not that hard for minors to watch these live streams and start gambling.
Even watching gambling streams is easy and creating gambling accounts is easy.
Not all the gambling streams would be sponsored by gambling platforms to the influencers but some do.
It's hard to tell if the influencer was paid to promote the gambling platform. We have to stay aware and keep ourselves in control of our gambling accounts.

Yeah, that's mostly the case for a streamer. It's a job. They are working, they earn money. It's not about conscience or anything even if kids see their advertisements or streams as long as they will receive money from it.
Well, that's the world we live in now. Since most jobs are done online, who cares if a kid will be a gambling addict because of the stream? It's their parents' fault, etc. etc.
Well, I don't blame them. It's difficult to find a job now especially after the pandemic. Morality is not something you will think twice anymore as long as you can feed your family. There's lesser good in this world now and I think most people are mimicking that idea and they are doing the same by becoming a streamer or a Youtube sensation that will do the same someday.

The goal of streamers is to make money from what they do, and I'm sure when they play on a casino site they have also collaborated and have earned money. When they make money through the streaming they do, they also won't want to promote the casino for free.

They just do it without caring who watches, be it children or adults, what's important to them is that they have benefited from what they do. Casinos will also know what they will get when they work with streamers, so this is a form of promotion that they can do.

Not really just that limited on gambling alone but also in other things as well on which you would really be that trying out to deal on with. Everything which is really that execessive will really be always that bad.
On the moment that you've seen these streamers in regarding into the things that they've been dealing into, then there's really that high chance that you would really be that ending up on dealing with it
specially on the time or moment that you would really be finding yourself that being too impulsive or having those kind of assumptions that you could be able to make easy money with gambling on which it is really that too wrong on having these kind of thoughts or having these minding on things about winning with gambling. There are people who are really that good when it comes to self control and moderation but there are ones
who do get easily hooked up.

It is really just that too impossible that you wont really be wary on the things that you are really that feeling into on the moment that you are dealing into something. There were really some accusations
that streamers are really that having that rigged kind of game outcomes or results on which it will really be adding up that peak interest for its viewers specially on the time or moment
that you do win up that big. You will really be trying out to copy those things.

I think it's not all of them that have a direct affiliate with the casino, although I know that non of them is doing it for fun but for rewards. Those that are not in affiliate with the casino will definitely get followers on their accounts and it can become monetized that they can even earn more from it than they are earning from the games.

I read it wrong the first time and now when seeing "promoting fun" lol, I'm just laughing.
A far better question would have been are they promoting this for fun or are they getting paid for it, and obviously, what could be the motive for it other than the financial one?


I never understood that, in videogames at last you watch the skills of that player, you watch how to do things that you can always replicate to win yourself the game or complete a challenge, a map, or a labyrinth, but I will never understand people watching other people playing slots.
This is beyond me, I can't understand how you can be entertained by something like this one drop, and despite all the reasons I got from people that do watch this I still think it's a complete waste of time.