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June 20, 2013, 04:01:44 PM
#97
I feel like it deserves it's own song.

Maybe we should contact Zhou Tonged?
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June 20, 2013, 03:11:20 PM
#96
I've heard about the $25k he's holding but only through some posts here now - are there any other older forum posts that document this? Just curious about it, really.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=24589
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141503.0;all
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1642658

@Matthew

It's been less than 24h, maybe he is looking into it or busy with something else, I don't think people will forget it until it is resolved so a bit more waiting shouldn't hurt.

Sigh. I wish it was just this, but the hypocrisy here is so deep and wide I feel like it deserves it's own song.
legendary
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June 20, 2013, 03:10:49 PM
#95
No offense to BFL or you but people have been complaining about BFL advertising on the forum. Nothing was solved as far as I know.

Because, as dishonest and/or unprofessional they may appear to be - they haven't really scammed anyone, AFAIK anyone who requests a refund is refunded.

But this is more serious and I believe Theymos will look into it.
hero member
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June 20, 2013, 03:10:23 PM
#94
I've heard about the $25k he's holding but only through some posts here now - are there any other older forum posts that document this? Just curious about it, really.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=24589
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141503.0;all
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1642658


Thank you for the concise list - really sheds a better light on that aspect.
legendary
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June 20, 2013, 03:06:20 PM
#93
To tell you truth, I couldn't care leas about him and have no axe to grind, but I continue to be insulted by the double standard and corruption on these forums. There is not another person on these forums who gets as much flack as I do for the mistakes I've made, and Theymos (as he has twice) would waste no time theowing a scammer tag down (what was it, 20 second record last time I pissed him off?), yet it's been a whole day now and not a peep from dear leader. Forgive me for allowing myself to be emotional about something on the internet, but passion is what drives me, and once I learn that my role models, teachers, or offenders are worse than me, it is a bit of a wake up call to rise up and crush these false prophets.

There is no way I'm not going to start another forum project now, and not because I'm delusional or think I'll be particularly perfect and flawless, but because I know myself and what I would do if I were Theymos, and it wouldn't have been to ignore criticisms and stay in power all this time despite corruption, insider trading, theft and broken promises to the community. The disgust has reached a boiling point. I don't dare test the cultists by calling for anyone to "GTFO", but rather I should strive to build something where even I in all my flawed nature cannot possibly fuck it up this badly.

I personally have never had a problem with this forum. There have been scammers and such but thats life. Tho I do agree with Matt that something should be done or said. No mods posting is just pissing more people off. This could of been solved in less then an hour. Simply saying yes its true or no its false. Either way it would be done and solved instead you have users arguing about it and loosing trust in this forum.

I have my own feelings and beliefs to base my actions on, but my reasoning for starting a new forum will be to provide a place where this kind of thing simply cannot happen. It will be challenging, but this pseudo-decentralizing community needs to start realizing just how much influence people have on everything from the price of their bitcoins to the opinions they hold. It's time for a platform that doesn't need Theymos, or accusations against Garr, or advertising money from bfl, and eventually won't need me either.

I deserve it, this community deserves it, the internet deserves it.

+1 if you need help id love to help with a decentralized site. It will be hard but interesting

I've heard about the $25k he's holding but only through some posts here now - are there any other older forum posts that document this? Just curious about it, really.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=24589
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141503.0;all
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1642658

@Matthew

It's been less than 24h, maybe he is looking into it or busy with something else, I don't think people will forget it until it is resolved so a bit more waiting shouldn't hurt.

No offense to BFL or you but people have been complaining about BFL advertising on the forum. Nothing was solved as far as I know.
legendary
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June 20, 2013, 03:00:49 PM
#92
I've heard about the $25k he's holding but only through some posts here now - are there any other older forum posts that document this? Just curious about it, really.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=24589
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=141503.0;all
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1642658

@Matthew

It's been less than 24h, maybe he is looking into it or busy with something else, I don't think people will forget it until it is resolved so a bit more waiting shouldn't hurt.
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June 20, 2013, 02:57:15 PM
#91
To tell you truth, I couldn't care leas about him and have no axe to grind, but I continue to be insulted by the double standard and corruption on these forums. There is not another person on these forums who gets as much flack as I do for the mistakes I've made, and Theymos (as he has twice) would waste no time theowing a scammer tag down (what was it, 20 second record last time I pissed him off?), yet it's been a whole day now and not a peep from dear leader. Forgive me for allowing myself to be emotional about something on the internet, but passion is what drives me, and once I learn that my role models, teachers, or offenders are worse than me, it is a bit of a wake up call to rise up and crush these false prophets.

There is no way I'm not going to start another forum project now, and not because I'm delusional or think I'll be particularly perfect and flawless, but because I know myself and what I would do if I were Theymos, and it wouldn't have been to ignore criticisms and stay in power all this time despite corruption, insider trading, theft and broken promises to the community. The disgust has reached a boiling point. I don't dare test the cultists by calling for anyone to "GTFO", but rather I should strive to build something where even I in all my flawed nature cannot possibly fuck it up this badly.

I personally have never had a problem with this forum. There have been scammers and such but thats life. Tho I do agree with Matt that something should be done or said. No mods posting is just pissing more people off. This could of been solved in less then an hour. Simply saying yes its true or no its false. Either way it would be done and solved instead you have users arguing about it and loosing trust in this forum.

I have my own feelings and beliefs to base my actions on, but my reasoning for starting a new forum will be to provide a place where this kind of thing simply cannot happen. It will be challenging, but this pseudo-decentralizing community needs to start realizing just how much influence people have on everything from the price of their bitcoins to the opinions they hold. It's time for a platform that doesn't need Theymos, or accusations against Garr, or advertising money from bfl, and eventually won't need me either.

I deserve it, this community deserves it, the internet deserves it.

/internet hero mode
legendary
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June 20, 2013, 02:52:11 PM
#90
To tell you truth, I couldn't care leas about him and have no axe to grind, but I continue to be insulted by the double standard and corruption on these forums. There is not another person on these forums who gets as much flack as I do for the mistakes I've made, and Theymos (as he has twice) would waste no time theowing a scammer tag down (what was it, 20 second record last time I pissed him off?), yet it's been a whole day now and not a peep from dear leader. Forgive me for allowing myself to be emotional about something on the internet, but passion is what drives me, and once I learn that my role models, teachers, or offenders are worse than me, it is a bit of a wake up call to rise up and crush these false prophets.

There is no way I'm not going to start another forum project now, and not because I'm delusional or think I'll be particularly perfect and flawless, but because I know myself and what I would do if I were Theymos, and it wouldn't have been to ignore criticisms and stay in power all this time despite corruption, insider trading, theft and broken promises to the community. The disgust has reached a boiling point. I don't dare test the cultists by calling for anyone to "GTFO", but rather I should strive to build something where even I in all my flawed nature cannot possibly fuck it up this badly.

I personally have never had a problem with this forum. There have been scammers and such but thats life. Tho I do agree with Matt that something should be done or said. No mods posting is just pissing more people off. This could of been solved in less then an hour. Simply saying yes its true or no its false. Either way it would be done and solved instead you have users arguing about it and loosing trust in this forum.
hero member
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June 20, 2013, 02:40:28 PM
#89
I may be out of the loop here but is garr255 jeff garzik?
Yea, that's out of the loop alright. And no, Garzik is not a teenager.

And here are Garr's buds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cVvuoG303s Matt being the closest.

Bruno, we've been through this with Atlas. What Garr255 did was wrong, but unless I'm not mistaken, he's still a minor in high school.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/garrett-macdonald/4a/234/61

Quote
Coeur d'Alene High School and North Idaho College
2010 – 2013
Activities and Societies: Robotics, Crew, Lacrosse

Graduated and over 18, and trusted by theymos as an adult (17 at the time) in currently holding $25K+ USD of this forums money.

I've heard about the $25k he's holding but only through some posts here now - are there any other older forum posts that document this? Just curious about it, really.
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June 20, 2013, 02:39:07 PM
#88
To tell you truth, I couldn't care leas about him and have no axe to grind, but I continue to be insulted by the double standard and corruption on these forums. There is not another person on these forums who gets as much flack as I do for the mistakes I've made, and Theymos (as he has twice) would waste no time theowing a scammer tag down (what was it, 20 second record last time I pissed him off?), yet it's been a whole day now and not a peep from dear leader. Forgive me for allowing myself to be emotional about something on the internet, but passion is what drives me, and once I learn that my role models, teachers, or offenders are worse than me, it is a bit of a wake up call to rise up and crush these false prophets.

There is no way I'm not going to start another forum project now, and not because I'm delusional or think I'll be particularly perfect and flawless, but because I know myself and what I would do if I were Theymos, and it wouldn't have been to ignore criticisms and stay in power all this time despite corruption, insider trading, theft and broken promises to the community. The disgust has reached a boiling point. I don't dare test the cultists by calling for anyone to "GTFO", but rather I should strive to build something where even I in all my flawed nature cannot possibly fuck it up this badly.
sr. member
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June 20, 2013, 02:37:15 PM
#87
Forum Mods please do the right thing and investigate the IP / post history of Garr255  & Werner.
legendary
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June 20, 2013, 02:30:51 PM
#86
I may be out of the loop here but is garr255 jeff garzik?
Yea, that's out of the loop alright. And no, Garzik is not a teenager.

And here are Garr's buds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cVvuoG303s Matt being the closest.

Bruno, we've been through this with Atlas. What Garr255 did was wrong, but unless I'm not mistaken, he's still a minor in high school.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/garrett-macdonald/4a/234/61

Quote
Coeur d'Alene High School and North Idaho College
2010 – 2013
Activities and Societies: Robotics, Crew, Lacrosse

Graduated and over 18, and trusted by theymos as an adult (17 at the time) in currently holding $25K+ USD of this forums money.
I stand corrected, sharpen your pitchfork.

I guess there'll be no need to unless you want to discuss Garr's banking and lottery sites.
hero member
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June 20, 2013, 02:27:59 PM
#85
I may be out of the loop here but is garr255 jeff garzik?
Yea, that's out of the loop alright. And no, Garzik is not a teenager.

And here are Garr's buds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cVvuoG303s Matt being the closest.

Bruno, we've been through this with Atlas. What Garr255 did was wrong, but unless I'm not mistaken, he's still a minor in high school.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/garrett-macdonald/4a/234/61

Quote
Coeur d'Alene High School and North Idaho College
2010 – 2013
Activities and Societies: Robotics, Crew, Lacrosse

Graduated and over 18, and trusted by theymos as an adult (17 at the time) in currently holding $25K+ USD of this forums money.
I stand corrected, sharpen your pitchfork.
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June 20, 2013, 02:27:24 PM
#84
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In poker, on the river, if you're SURE someone's bluffing/has a worse hand then you DON'T call.  You always raise.  If you're telling the truth then you hold the nuts - and a raise was in order.



Raising gives the opportunity to get re-raised. You're so sure you're trying to raise induce a re-raise?? You better make sure your read is SPOT on. I don't see how this situation is anything like poker though. Back to the thread!

legendary
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June 20, 2013, 02:01:42 PM
#83
I may be out of the loop here but is garr255 jeff garzik?
Yea, that's out of the loop alright. And no, Garzik is not a teenager.

And here are Garr's buds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cVvuoG303s Matt being the closest.

Bruno, we've been through this with Atlas. What Garr255 did was wrong, but unless I'm not mistaken, he's still a minor in high school.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/garrett-macdonald/4a/234/61

Quote
Coeur d'Alene High School and North Idaho College
2010 – 2013
Activities and Societies: Robotics, Crew, Lacrosse

Graduated and over 18, and trusted by theymos as an adult (17 at the time) in currently holding $25K+ USD of this forums money.
legendary
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amarha
June 20, 2013, 01:56:21 PM
#82
Goodness gracious there is alot of scandalous ass shit going on around here lately

Lately? If anything bitcoin has really improved over the years on the scandal front. This is pretty small potatoes.
legendary
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Okey Dokey Lokey
June 20, 2013, 01:50:55 PM
#81
Goodness gracious there is alot of scandalous ass shit going on around here lately
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June 20, 2013, 01:35:49 PM
#80
Inaba has been following this and pretty reasonable with the outcome to this point.  It may well be worth asking if some kind of hold could be placed on Garr/Werner's order for your single until this matter is resolved and if he does disappear, perhaps some other arrangement could be met so you get what you were scammed into overpaying for.

Unfortunately, while that would seem like a nice thing to do, it seems to me it would set a precedent that puts BFL in the middle of a shitstorm between eBay pre-order scammers and their irate customers.... and opens the door for fake customers of fictional scammers to join the fray also... messy.

Ahhh that's a good point.  Nice in theory but would likely just generate a whole new wave of flak.
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June 20, 2013, 01:33:07 PM
#79
I may be out of the loop here but is garr255 jeff garzik?

No.

http://admitmeplease.org/
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Hodl!
June 20, 2013, 01:32:44 PM
#78
Inaba has been following this and pretty reasonable with the outcome to this point.  It may well be worth asking if some kind of hold could be placed on Garr/Werner's order for your single until this matter is resolved and if he does disappear, perhaps some other arrangement could be met so you get what you were scammed into overpaying for.

Unfortunately, while that would seem like a nice thing to do, it seems to me it would set a precedent that puts BFL in the middle of a shitstorm between eBay pre-order scammers and their irate customers.... and opens the door for fake customers of fictional scammers to join the fray also... messy.
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