GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 135.

suchmoon

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Quote from: suchmoon on September 15, 2014, 08:10:25 PM

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Quote from: EvilPanda on September 15, 2014, 07:34:45 PM

I'm evil

A few pictures of the new data center for the doubters:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/6512/another-new-hahslet-home

"But Evillllll GAW doesn't have data centers they're just a Ponzi Scheme, everyone knows that"

Queue such moon soon.

Meh, that's too easy. Pictures of the same warehouse in Mississippi that was at full capacity a month ago. It would be nice to see some new scenery from the other 11 data centers, if pictures is all we can get. But you know what they say - 8 mined blocks are worth a thousand pictures, or something like that.

Don't clump me together with the ponzi crowd though, I never said nor implied that. All I'm looking for is some answers and they tend to be hard to find. Whenever we do find something it's posted front and center in the OP.

Are you talking about pictures from this post?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8452780

There are 2 warehouses there. They showed the interior of one of them (the smaller one) and the outside of the other. These new photos show the inside of the bigger one, so it wasn't full before.

I was talking about the PR pictures they posted a while ago, like this one: http://i.snag.gy/WE5Kk.jpg
This is also the inside of the "bigger one".

There were doubts if that was a shipping warehouse or a mining farm because there are no cables or any other infrastructure except miners on shelves. To which the CEO responded that this is indeed a mining farm nearing full capacity and the last few shelves of miners were chosen for the photo shoot right before they were plugged in. I'm paraphrasing here because I think the original post was eaten by hashtalk migration. So it feels a bit like a time machine trick to see a transformer pad still under construction and the interior still being furnished. Either these new pictures are old or those old pictures are not a functioning mining farm. Probably the latter, because there is some cabling and ducting in the new pictures.

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Quote from: EvilPanda on September 15, 2014, 07:34:45 PM

I'm evil

A few pictures of the new data center for the doubters:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/6512/another-new-hahslet-home

LOL WTF i take it someone dont like suchmoon i see on the last picture " from when i looked at it " had a sewage pipe or something for suchmoons tears. Lol that was funny though but in noway take it as me having a problem with suchmoon as they have answered my questions in the past

forzendiablo

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the grandpa of cryptos

the only REAL way for them to proove they have that hashes is to make videos [uncut] of their data centers.
but they wont do it im sure Wink

imo - they have alot o hashing power but.. alot of this money is gambling

still if they do smart gambling [ie doing maring trading and lowering prices on purpose] it may still be best hedge fund to invest in Wink

tom14cat14

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Quote from: dustreveal on August 21, 2014, 10:53:32 AM

I posted these in another thread
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/proof-of-dishonesty-and-lies-from-gawminerscom-hashlet-ponzi-scheme-scam-749980

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I am a GAW customer as well.
But I have to admit that now I understand more about GAW's "business model", and they are very very dodgy.
They are selling a "service" with no real miner on the back. They have a tiny "data center" which is just a small basement.

There is a website collecting information about GAW fraud, and I believe all the questions they raised are valid:

https://flexhash.com/

So GAW is simply gambling with customers money. They are betting on difficulty increasing and LTC price dropping.
Yes, they are still paying out, but I am wondering who manipulated LTC market recently? With leverage, it doesn't cost a lot of money to make LTC price drop.

If you don't care how GAW use your money, feel free to join them.

But this type of "business" is destroying our crypto currency ecosystem, destroying the whole mining industry and making good profit from miners like us by manipulating the market.

Who want to stay in a world full of scammers?

If you really want to defend GAW, be logical and find hard evidences. It's doesn't mean anything simply claiming you are a customer. Maybe you are at higher layer of a ponzi scheme, but still, it's a ponzi scheme. Later customers will be victims. Do not help those fraudster!

Do you realize how much weight your statements carry with most users? 1 you are new. 2 you are just making claims with no proof backing it up. Watch I will do it right now. GAW miners is real they have multiple huge Data center's and have tons of hashpower that is still not even tapped. They are making a ton from mining that is how they can pay everyone. Selling us hashlet's just offset their risk. They get profit upfront while we take 90-130 days to see our profit.
See I have no proof of what I just said but I am making a claim with as much evidence as you so it must be true.

elrugrim

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Yeah, suchmoon is a reasonable skeptic who likes hard data. He isn't one of the whackjobs of the thread.

suchmoon

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Quote from: zdaz14 on September 15, 2014, 07:38:13 PM

Quote from: EvilPanda on September 15, 2014, 07:34:45 PM

I'm evil

A few pictures of the new data center for the doubters:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/6512/another-new-hahslet-home

"But Evillllll GAW doesn't have data centers they're just a Ponzi Scheme, everyone knows that"

Queue such moon soon.

Meh, that's too easy. Pictures of the same warehouse in Mississippi that was at full capacity a month ago. It would be nice to see some new scenery from the other 11 data centers, if pictures is all we can get. But you know what they say - 8 mined blocks are worth a thousand pictures, or something like that.

Don't clump me together with the ponzi crowd though, I never said nor implied that. All I'm looking for is some answers and they tend to be hard to find. Whenever we do find something it's posted front and center in the OP.

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Yes gaw is EVIL and building a machine that will do a 51% attack o_0 ~~'you have been warned'~~ Wink

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The inside scoop on Hashlets. Gaw is actually the sponsor's of the black mass, and is using the powers of evil to steal BTC from Satoshi's account to fund the giant ponzi!

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Quote from: EvilPanda on September 15, 2014, 07:34:45 PM

I'm evil

A few pictures of the new data center for the doubters:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/6512/another-new-hahslet-home

You will never convince everyone.

zdaz14

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Quote from: EvilPanda on September 15, 2014, 07:34:45 PM

I'm evil

A few pictures of the new data center for the doubters:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/6512/another-new-hahslet-home

"But Evillllll GAW doesn't have data centers they're just a Ponzi Scheme, everyone knows that"

Queue such moon soon.

EvilPanda

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I'm evil

A few pictures of the new data center for the doubters:
https://hashtalk.org/topic/6512/another-new-hahslet-home

AirFlame

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MMM the smell of new accounts that post 'GAW is ~~evil~~' same guy again Huh

I bet so

suchmoon

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Quote from: chmick on September 15, 2014, 02:29:42 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on September 15, 2014, 12:21:51 PM

Quote from: zdaz14 on September 15, 2014, 12:05:59 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on September 15, 2014, 11:59:35 AM

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And how would you do it? Analyse each account separately? With the number of clients they have it would take days if not weeks.

Put a hold on withdrawals for accounts that have splits/merges AND more than two boosts in a 24 hour period. Give yourself time to investigate it and then take boost payments away from those if proven that they cheated the system. There are ways to do it, and it doesn't take days or weeks unless it's all stored on punch cards.

Its been less than 24 hours since they announced it. I know its probably effecting you though suchmoon with how much you own over there, that's a lot of extra boost BTC for you :/

Your calendar may be broken, it's been more than 24 hours

Doesn't really matter either way, my point is that there are ways to determine which users cheated and how much boost was valid, based on 30 min every 12 hours or whatever the limit was. I understand that it may be easier and cheaper to roll it back for everyone, but that doesn't make it the best solution.

I made something like $0.20 from my boost, so no, not "effecting" me at all.

Talking about boost and payment , is it me or this time the balance update is very late (almost 6 hours).

I know this a new platform and with new thing comes teethings problems, but heeee gaw's people (I know your are reading, that's PR 101) , don't you think your customers should not pay the price of design flaws ??

Another thing ; what about the market thing ?? I put for sell a wafflepool hashlet and it's still there !!

Edit : I don't know if it's a design flaw but you can't sell a prime while it's boosting ..

I would assume the update is late because they are still sorting through the boost issue.

Good luck with the wafflet, I'm selling one too and nobody is buying it.

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Quote from: oshnap on September 15, 2014, 01:06:46 PM

I was thinking about purchasing a couple hundred mh from these guys but I couldn't find any reliable stats on zenpool and the price just seems too good to be true. The 400 mh titan miners are selling for like ~7k but they advertise a 500mh hashlet for ~8k which doesn't make any sense to me. I have tried to call their toll free number several times and haven't received a call back. I was planning on spending a fairly large amount of money but they can't seem to find the time to call me back? Maybe it was because I expressed my concerns regarding the too good to be true pricing, lack of support, and lack of zenpool stats. sketch level 9000+

Hashlets at $16 were a very good deal which did not last long. But you can still expect about 11% return a week from ZenHashlet at the $21/mH price.

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Quote from: suchmoon on September 15, 2014, 12:21:51 PM

Quote from: zdaz14 on September 15, 2014, 12:05:59 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on September 15, 2014, 11:59:35 AM

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And how would you do it? Analyse each account separately? With the number of clients they have it would take days if not weeks.

Put a hold on withdrawals for accounts that have splits/merges AND more than two boosts in a 24 hour period. Give yourself time to investigate it and then take boost payments away from those if proven that they cheated the system. There are ways to do it, and it doesn't take days or weeks unless it's all stored on punch cards.

Its been less than 24 hours since they announced it. I know its probably effecting you though suchmoon with how much you own over there, that's a lot of extra boost BTC for you :/

Your calendar may be broken, it's been more than 24 hours

Doesn't really matter either way, my point is that there are ways to determine which users cheated and how much boost was valid, based on 30 min every 12 hours or whatever the limit was. I understand that it may be easier and cheaper to roll it back for everyone, but that doesn't make it the best solution.

I made something like $0.20 from my boost, so no, not "effecting" me at all.

Talking about boost and payment , is it me or this time the balance update is very late (almost 6 hours).

I know this a new platform and with new thing comes teethings problems, but heeee gaw's people (I know your are reading, that's PR 101) , don't you think your customers should not pay the price of design flaws ??

Another thing ; what about the market thing ?? I put for sell a wafflepool hashlet and it's still there !!

Edit : I don't know if it's a design flaw but you can't sell a prime while it's boosting ..

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Quote from: oshnap on September 15, 2014, 01:06:46 PM

I was thinking about purchasing a couple hundred mh from these guys but I couldn't find any reliable stats on zenpool and the price just seems too good to be true. The 400 mh titan miners are selling for like ~7k but they advertise a 500mh hashlet for ~8k which doesn't make any sense to me. I have tried to call their toll free number several times and haven't received a call back. I was planning on spending a fairly large amount of money but they can't seem to find the time to call me back? Maybe it was because I expressed my concerns regarding the too good to be true pricing, lack of support, and lack of zenpool stats. sketch level 9000+

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If you can send me an email with your contact info I can get you in contact with the right person! Thank you for your interest!

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Another option could be he is a much smarter businessman than a lot off the profit mongers we have experienced over the years... lol

All this speculation seriously cracks me up. I made to much ROI so this must be a scam! GAW is by NO means perfect but they have had plenty of opportunities to scam and walk away yet they haven't. What are they waiting for? They are a business located in the US that is extremely transparent as far as who and where they are so if they were actually scamming they would go to jail. If Josh buys a house in Mexico then maybe I will start to worry but some of you just crack me up. Thanks for the laughs tho, this thread offers great comedic relief.

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Quote from: oshnap on September 15, 2014, 01:06:46 PM

I was thinking about purchasing a couple hundred mh from these guys but I couldn't find any reliable stats on zenpool and the price just seems too good to be true. The 400 mh titan miners are selling for like ~7k but they advertise a 500mh hashlet for ~8k which doesn't make any sense to me. I have tried to call their toll free number several times and haven't received a call back. I was planning on spending a fairly large amount of money but they can't seem to find the time to call me back? Maybe it was because I expressed my concerns regarding the too good to be true pricing, lack of support, and lack of zenpool stats. sketch level 9000+

If you think it looks suspicious, don't invest. That's what I've been repeating for months. Anyway, most people who decided to trust GAW have already reached ROI (according to GAW over 50% of investors.)

Lack of support? Take a look at this person's posts and you'll see the support is fine. It may take some time but every case is taken care of.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gawamber-347151

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Yep, if gaw keeps on pulling too-good-to-be-true tricks out their ass and basically giving bagloads of money away there's no future for them and for the miners. So it must be downhill from now on. Or maybe gaw Josh really is the new coming of christ like people see him on Hashtalk.

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It's way to easy to make ROI with the huge price increase.. Everybody that bought in early can cash out half of what he bought, make ROI, and make more money for free at 0 risk. Either somebody is making a huge loss or this will not end well imo..

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