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Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 139. (Read 262935 times)

sr. member
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Put it this way. Its broken to the point that I can keep all my primes in BOOST mode.  If you are catching my drift.

Its tedious as fuck to do, but very possible to do every time the 30mins expires   -  hell you can even CANCEL the current timer and restart it.
IF gaw are smart they would run a script where by EVERYONE only gets 2 boosts payments per billing cycle - regardless

They are just lucky I can only do this with 5 Primes... if I had more...


Problem not happening here. Well, "problem" Wink

Oh, was thinking about the Hashpoints. 20.000 HP = 10 Gh/s SHA256. Or if you buy, keep for 2 weeks and sell about 10 USD. So with the current market where you can sell it's possible to actually monetize the Hashpoints. Having 4 BTC in the online wallet will earn you a 10 Gh/s hashlet per 2-3 weeks, depending on what the exchangerate does.

Sure you can, this should be affecting EVERY prime. Just did another boost, after my initial 30mins from my last post.  So that's 3 since I started posting in here about it.



I am posting this so it gets fixed. 


Meh dont really care for hash points personally.
The boost function is broken.  I submitted a ticket and pmd gaw_ceo for no response after finding this bug/problem/exploit

Been hours now yet the problem/bug/exploit still exists and I am sure if others are aware of it and have a lot more primes then I do - can make serious buck on it.






where can i fond the boost option ?

On your primes there is a little blue rocket - click it. ONLY FOR PRIMES



hero member
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I've been trying to withdraw some btc today and the same error message for the last couple of hours:

Code:
Unable to process transaction at this time

Does anyone experience the same issue?
newbie
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The boost function is broken.  I submitted a ticket and pmd gaw_ceo for no response after finding this bug/problem/exploit

Been hours now yet the problem/bug/exploit still exists and I am sure if others are aware of it and have a lot more primes then I do - can make serious buck on it.






where can i fond the boost option ?
legendary
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Put it this way. Its broken to the point that I can keep all my primes in BOOST mode.  If you are catching my drift.

Its tedious as fuck to do, but very possible to do every time the 30mins expires   -  hell you can even CANCEL the current timer and restart it.
IF gaw are smart they would run a script where by EVERYONE only gets 2 boosts payments per billing cycle - regardless

They are just lucky I can only do this with 5 Primes... if I had more...


Problem not happening here. Well, "problem" Wink

Oh, was thinking about the Hashpoints. 20.000 HP = 10 Gh/s SHA256. Or if you buy, keep for 2 weeks and sell about 10 USD. So with the current market where you can sell it's possible to actually monetize the Hashpoints. Having 4 BTC in the online wallet will earn you a 10 Gh/s hashlet per 2-3 weeks, depending on what the exchangerate does.
sr. member
Activity: 339
Merit: 250
Put it this way. Its broken to the point that I can keep all my primes in BOOST mode.  If you are catching my drift.

Its tedious as fuck to do, but very possible to do every time the 30mins expires   -  hell you can even CANCEL the current timer and restart it.


IF gaw are smart they would run a script where by EVERYONE only gets 2 boosts payments per billing cycle - regardless

They are just lucky I can only do this with 5 Primes... if I had more...




hero member
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Dream become broken often
The boost function is broken.  I submitted a ticket and pmd gaw_ceo for no response after finding this bug/problem/exploit

Been hours now yet the problem/bug/exploit still exists and I am sure if others are aware of it and have a lot more primes then I do - can make serious buck on it.


my boost worked just fine...you sure you don't get a pop up saying you've done it within the last 12hrs?
sr. member
Activity: 339
Merit: 250
The boost function is broken.  I submitted a ticket and pmd gaw_ceo for no response after finding this bug/problem/exploit

Been hours now yet the problem/bug/exploit still exists and I am sure if others are aware of it and have a lot more primes then I do - can make serious buck on it.




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Smiley I just purchase 3MH worth of Mining Shares for $100. Not Miners.. mining shares. Lawyer cleared this up for me. Its all in the language and how they present it. Do i mind, not at all.. as long as i can get my ROI back.

If the process we're more similar to renting a rig, then yes i can see it being an actual miner you are buying. But GAW is controlling the coin and pools only because it flow's with their financial projections and what they are able to return to investors.

This is the obvious. Anyone with a business sense can see what they are offering are not miners but shares in an operation. Probably doing this to avoid regulation from the securities commission and ultimately higher taxes.

In Canada, any mining operation selling shares must be registered with the securities commission because they are selling shares Wink
No difference with what GAW is doing. They are just trying to get around it with some wording and presentation.

Think of the production costs to manufacture these hashlets. And they spit em out like quick fast. (Good graphic designer)
If i wanted to purchase $75,000 worth of hashlets i can get them right away!! (SHARES make this possible)

No refunds, but i can trade them at a lower price??  Huh

Selling something that is a security as not a security is illegal in the US.  It is two separate felonies: felony fraud and selling of unregistered securities.

I agree these are just shares, and thus securities.

I also agree anyone with some experience in finances can see that these are shares, but many people on hashtalk have no idea what they are purchasing because they are unable to see through the marketspeak nonsense.

Every single detail at zenminers communicates to the buyer that he is buying a MINER, not a SHARE.

A MINER is a physical asset that is generating income by contributing hash power to some multipool and the income thus generated is directly influenced by a number of real market conditions.
Hashlets are represented as MINERs in all and every detail. Being in the "cloud" doesn't change their core quality which is the supply of hash power to a pool.
If this is real, then we can't speak of shares or securities but rather for ownership of actual, physical asset which is measured in actual, existing MH/s and has specific, real world expenses attached to it (hosting + electricity + maintenance).

If MINERS do not exist, then a SHARE to a company that has no income generating mechanism other than SHARES SELLS is the exact definition of PONZI.

Doesn't GAW have lawyers? Isn't it completely and utterly stupid to publicly and openly advertise a fraud?

I agree that the whole business model with the aggressive marketing, the aggressive zenpool payouts, the aggressive and most generous upgrade of original hashlets to prime hashlets etc can only be easily explained by the PONZI (SHARES) model.

However, it can also be explained in complicated business and technical arrangements as well as by a really aggressive and expansive business attitude.
As an example, someone suggested in an earlier post the possibility GAW may actually have 2x the MHs they are selling: for every 1MHs hashlet they sell, they keep and operate 2MHs power. Obviously such arrangements (if indeed exist) are valuable company secrets that will never be revealed.

To objectively judge such possibilities one must have access to information about almost any corner of altcoin industry: total hash rates, total asic manufacture, fluctuations in exchanges and so on...

Without that, we can only speculate. The easiest explanation is that they collect money from new buyers to pay out existing buyers aka ponzi.

I am an old buyer of hashlets and I am paid every single day like clockwork from GAW so far.
But this is NOT ENOUGH!

As an investor, I want to know if I can trust to invest MORE in hashlets.

Therefore, I must be able to judge what's the risk I'm taking with them.

If hashlets are assets directly corresponding to actual and measurable hash power, then my risk is low and will follow the general risks of this altcoin market. UP with zenminers!

If hashlets are shares to non-existent hash power, pay outs being based on MY money and new comers money, then this is BIG FRAUD. DOWN with zenminers!
 
I am more inclined to accept the idea of hashlets being real assets based mostly on that the other alternative (ponzi) is so stupid and has grave, unavoidable consequences for GAW.
legendary
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Sell off your Prime and get almost $40 bucks!

Today The Zen portal made it possible to sell your Hashlets. For us early adapters we make a nice profit selling hour hashlet prime.

Early adaptors profits
Also today i Made 60% roi on my Primes, and i can sell them for $39.96
We made a list of the rates you get for your hashlets, we think the value will drop fast.

Rates:
Hashlet Prime $39.96
Hashlet Genesis $7.90
CleverHashlet $13.56
MultiHashlet $12.70

Boost your Hashlets Prime whit 50% for free!
I've just boosted my Hashlet Prime 1 Mh/s  and now it's running at 1.55 Mh/s. Good reason to login every day and boost them while getting the payouts done anyway.  A boost for 30 mins each time once every 12hrs, and only %50 of your hash.

Must I sell or keep my Hashlets?
Read more here: http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/hashlets-market-opened-his-doors-free-upgrade-for-prime-users

I dont know If I agree with you on selling a portion of your hashlet primes.
It`s a gamble.. do not forget KnC is shipping the fist batch Monday, the Diff wile rise pretty fast.
And Yesterday out of no are 400GH/s increase of hashrate.
Thats why i think sell halve of your prime if got cheap (15,99 19,95, or 24,95)
hero member
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Sell off your Prime and get almost $40 bucks!

Today The Zen portal made it possible to sell your Hashlets. For us early adapters we make a nice profit selling hour hashlet prime.

Early adaptors profits
Also today i Made 60% roi on my Primes, and i can sell them for $39.96
We made a list of the rates you get for your hashlets, we think the value will drop fast.

Rates:
Hashlet Prime $39.96
Hashlet Genesis $7.90
CleverHashlet $13.56
MultiHashlet $12.70

Boost your Hashlets Prime whit 50% for free!
I've just boosted my Hashlet Prime 1 Mh/s  and now it's running at 1.55 Mh/s. Good reason to login every day and boost them while getting the payouts done anyway.  A boost for 30 mins each time once every 12hrs, and only %50 of your hash.

Must I sell or keep my Hashlets?
Read more here: http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/hashlets-market-opened-his-doors-free-upgrade-for-prime-users

I can't find the market place to sell the hashlet and the boost function too in zenportal. Could anyone please tell me how to or give me a link.
Thanks

The boost function. Go to miners page and go to your primes. There is a rocket click on that and it will activate the boost. The market is really just them buying it back at 80% of retail. It is the gear symbol in the lower left of your hashlet.
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Sell off your Prime and get almost $40 bucks!

Today The Zen portal made it possible to sell your Hashlets. For us early adapters we make a nice profit selling hour hashlet prime.

Early adaptors profits
Also today i Made 60% roi on my Primes, and i can sell them for $39.96
We made a list of the rates you get for your hashlets, we think the value will drop fast.

Rates:
Hashlet Prime $39.96
Hashlet Genesis $7.90
CleverHashlet $13.56
MultiHashlet $12.70

Boost your Hashlets Prime whit 50% for free!
I've just boosted my Hashlet Prime 1 Mh/s  and now it's running at 1.55 Mh/s. Good reason to login every day and boost them while getting the payouts done anyway.  A boost for 30 mins each time once every 12hrs, and only %50 of your hash.

Must I sell or keep my Hashlets?
Read more here: http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/hashlets-market-opened-his-doors-free-upgrade-for-prime-users

I can't find the market place to sell the hashlet and the boost function too in zenportal. Could anyone please tell me how to or give me a link.
Thanks
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 500
Sell off your Prime and get almost $40 bucks!

Today The Zen portal made it possible to sell your Hashlets. For us early adapters we make a nice profit selling hour hashlet prime.

Early adaptors profits
Also today i Made 60% roi on my Primes, and i can sell them for $39.96
We made a list of the rates you get for your hashlets, we think the value will drop fast.

Rates:
Hashlet Prime $39.96
Hashlet Genesis $7.90
CleverHashlet $13.56
MultiHashlet $12.70

Boost your Hashlets Prime whit 50% for free!
I've just boosted my Hashlet Prime 1 Mh/s  and now it's running at 1.55 Mh/s. Good reason to login every day and boost them while getting the payouts done anyway.  A boost for 30 mins each time once every 12hrs, and only %50 of your hash.

Must I sell or keep my Hashlets?
Read more here: http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/hashlets-market-opened-his-doors-free-upgrade-for-prime-users

I dont know If I agree with you on selling a portion of your hashlet primes. For those of use who could profit form selling we have made a good portion of our money back on these already. If they keep adding new features the price will remain the same or go up. It all depends on do you think GAW is real? Do you think GAW will continue to improve the Prime meaning you will be able to make more in the future which would justify the cost of the prime.

I have done a ton of research on GAW and josh's past companies. I am gambling on him right now and that he is who he says he is. I have not completed my research on him but I guarantee I have done more then most. If GAW is a ponzi he will go to jail because we all know who he is. If he is not who we think then from what I see he would have had to have this planned out years ago because there is info on him and his companies dating back for sure to 2009 and some info that dates to 2002. 
MOB
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Anyone want my two remaining hashlet primes for $35/MH? Smiley  That is all that is left on the account.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1031
Sell off your Prime and get almost $40 bucks!

Today The Zen portal made it possible to sell your Hashlets. For us early adapters we make a nice profit selling hour hashlet prime.

Early adaptors profits
Also today i Made 60% roi on my Primes, and i can sell them for $39.96
We made a list of the rates you get for your hashlets, we think the value will drop fast.

Rates:
Hashlet Prime $39.96
Hashlet Genesis $7.90
CleverHashlet $13.56
MultiHashlet $12.70

Boost your Hashlets Prime whit 50% for free!
I've just boosted my Hashlet Prime 1 Mh/s  and now it's running at 1.55 Mh/s. Good reason to login every day and boost them while getting the payouts done anyway.  A boost for 30 mins each time once every 12hrs, and only %50 of your hash.

Must I sell or keep my Hashlets?
Read more here: http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/hashlets-market-opened-his-doors-free-upgrade-for-prime-users
full member
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I am at 50%, but I am thinking of selling them to Gaw. They buy back for 80%. I bought when $16 = 1 MH/s  Grin

Nice one Wink. I was just a bit too late for that I guess. Bought them for $21.-, but I received a Solo Hashlet Gift extra (= also 1 MH/s) and my hashlet was updated to a hashlet Prime. Together with earnings, my $21 can be worth $60.- now if I sell everything (and take my earnings).  But i'm not going to, I like hashletss Smiley



I might sell, but I will probably hold for another 2 weeks.
legendary
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legendary
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I am at 50%, but I am thinking of selling them to Gaw. They buy back for 80%. I bought when $16 = 1 MH/s  Grin

Nice one Wink. I was just a bit too late for that I guess. Bought them for $21.-, but I received a Solo Hashlet Gift extra (= also 1 MH/s) and my hashlet was updated to a hashlet Prime. Together with earnings, my $21 can be worth $60.- now if I sell everything (and take my earnings).  But i'm not going to, I like hashletss Smiley

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I am at 50%, but I am thinking of selling them to Gaw. They buy back for 80%. I bought when $16 = 1 MH/s  Grin
hero member
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Dream become broken often
as of today i have made 50% ROI in about one month
im happy with hashlets

i'm upto 75% ROI and bout 2 more weeks i should be at 100% for my first unit...i've since bought some more Smiley
legendary
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as of today i have made 50% ROI in about one month
im happy with hashlets
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