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Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 145. (Read 262906 times)

newbie
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Withdrawals are back up again if anyone wanted to know.
MOB
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On day 5 of my support ticket + post on hashtalk + chat with Amber trying to get my last 26 hours of payouts from selling my Hashlets.  At least the ticket was finally assigned to someone after I chatted with Amber.

Since this "accidental" pocketing of of my payout happened to everyone that sold Hashlets, I am not sure why they have no method in place for efficiently resolving it.  It's so hard not to talk about businessmen.

Following up on my ongoing ticket with GAW as I attempt to get the final payouts I was due after transferring my 100MH of hashlets to someone else.  (as we all know, GAW says that the payouts are for the previous 24 hour cycle)



Luke from ZenMiner finally replied on my ticket.  However he said that the payout would be "impossible to calculate" so as a "courtesy" he would pay me 45% of what the payout should have been, assuming it was equal to the previous day.

He provided no rationale or explanation for not paying the full amount, instead acting as if he was doing me a great favor.  What?


Why would someone not receive payment for the "work" that they did?  I understand GAW has a terrible terrible payment system that seems to be maintained by human labor instead of code, but why not payout the full amount when it is brought to their attention?

edit: The amount is fairly trivial, ~.034 BTC, but I can't let it rest on principle.
newbie
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so is this the same bug the other time we did not get balance ?
its 3:50pm est thought this would have been fixed already but seems like u get to watch a bar that does nothing

Check now. Mine is updated now.
legendary
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so is this the same bug the other time we did not get balance ?
its 3:50pm est thought this would have been fixed already but seems like u get to watch a bar that does nothing
newbie
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Incase anyone has issues finding their forum and updates:

"We are experiencing an issue with todays payout round where the running process spun out of control and some accounts may have been paid out double or even more.

We have temporarily locked the ability to withdraw (for security reasons) until all accounts are rectified.

We are currently looking through the logs at this time and will provide more information as soon as we have it. After the actual issue is found, we will be running another process to adjust accounts according to actual payout.

Edit: We have stopped the running of payouts as things got a bit out of control so currently we are still looking in the logs. Thanks for your patience.

Update We are now running the payouts on a staging environment in order to get more insight on where the process got hung and will be able to provide a better update in the next 30 minutes. Thanks again for your patience.

Update It turns out that the payout issue is related to merging of hashlets and the team is still looking to be sure there are no other issues before attempting to reconcile the payouts for today accordingly. I will provide another update within the next 30 minutes with more details. Thanks again.

Update We have now found the issue and are working on a fix. We will then run a simulation in the next few minutes to be sure the issue is resolved, update a few collections in the database, and then begin the actual payout run for today. I will provide another update soon. Thank you.

Update The payout code is being updated now and a test dry run will occur directly after to be absolutely sure the problem is resolved. This process shouldn't take to much longer before the actual payout round runs for today. I will keep you posted on the most recent progress. Thanks for your patience.

Update The testing is complete and all balances are in the process of being updated to reflect the correct amount before today's payout. After this is complete, they actual payout round will run again. This shouldn't take to much longer and I will provide another update when I have more information. Thanks.

Update The process for resetting account balances is still underway and immediately after this finishes, the actual payout will run like normal. That said, the payout round for today will be a little late. We tried hard to make sure it was not late but during this situation, we actually discovered another way to improve the speed in which payouts run and will be implementing enhancements in the next week or so to speed up this actual process. Thanks for your patience. I will send another update when we have more information.

Update Currently the reconciliation is being finished up and the actual payouts are running. Thank you all for your support. I'll post another final update when this process is complete.

Update The payouts are still running like normal and shouldn't have much longer until completion. Thanks very much for your patience."
newbie
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My zencloud account now has less BTC today in it than it did yesterday after the payout and fee's  Sad

They haven't ran payments yet today I believe. Its lower because the price of bitcoin itself has dropped I believe.
hero member
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My zencloud account now has less BTC today in it than it did yesterday after the payout and fee's  Sad

They've always come through on Zen so don't worry, you just need to be patient a bit more.
newbie
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When i see posts of I_IZ_CEO/MemCiD and other trolls sometimes I wonder where is the limit of this bull shit :/ Accounts made 2 weeks ago and all posts concern GAW.

To be fair, I'm a real person, not trying to push an agenda and my account is new...

and this is your first post too lol.

Both sides here and basically hostile to each other and I'm sure both sides here have at least one person using multiple accounts.


To be fair i am using GAW for a long time now. And i disagree about the ponzi sheme posts in this forum about them. Everyone can see that new account posting bad stuff about GAW are fake accounts used by trolls. I do not want to remind You the post of MemCiD when he forgot to log out from the fake troll acount and posted like I_IZ_CEO Cheesy
hero member
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My zencloud account now has less BTC today in it than it did yesterday after the payout and fee's  Sad
give it time, they acked the issues
legendary
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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
My zencloud account now has less BTC today in it than it did yesterday after the payout and fee's  Sad
newbie
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Yeah they own millions of dollars and can't get a simple payout system running correctly.

* a payment system that would be a heck of a lot simpler if they were actually mining at the pools they act like they are...
legendary
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this popup appeared some time ago:


newbie
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When i see posts of I_IZ_CEO/MemCiD and other trolls sometimes I wonder where is the limit of this bull shit :/ Accounts made 2 weeks ago and all posts concern GAW.

To be fair, I'm a real person, not trying to push an agenda and my account is new...

and this is your first post too lol.

Both sides here and basically hostile to each other and I'm sure both sides here have at least one person using multiple accounts.
newbie
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When i see posts of I_IZ_CEO/MemCiD and other trolls sometimes I wonder where is the limit of this bull shit :/ Accounts made 2 weeks ago and all posts concern GAW.
sr. member
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CEO FlawMiners TM®
Guys, stop being idiots.

Josh has said multiple times they are mining on their own private pools. They are then paying out to their owners based on public pools. Different hashlets cost differently to get it.

And yes, I agree its fine to shut down Nicehash until they figure out a solution to gaming the system. That's not how their service works so they immediately posted an announcement saying they are fixing it.

Trolls be trollin. Guess that's what you do jobless surrounded by block erupters Sad


Says they guy who spent 3 hours hooking up a Fury.. You need to get your head out of your a$$ dude.

Yeah man, thanks for lookin through my history to find dirt on me Cheesy Was my first machine and one of my partitions has an error that took me a while to figure out originally.

Thanks though again.

No problem.
Now let me ask you a question, one that I can not understand, why would I mine on zenpool and payout what nicehash is paying out?
Also what happened on nicehash is not a flaw for nicehash because this is how nicehash works.

EDIT: Nice pics btw Smiley.

Thanks for the pic comment Smiley Fun side gig until I get to an area that I can do it full-time lol.

I totally understand its not a flaw on Nicehashes end (that's actually where my Fury mines all day), I just don't think GAW thought about others gaming rental sites (like Nashhash) in order to turn a higher profit with Hashlets over a long period of time.

I don't believe that it effected them immediately but, say, a year down the road if it had continued to allow it and they were losing money long term on the SHA hashlets then it wouldn't be a smart business venture for them to even offer it. So might as well nip it in the butt quickly.

That said, I've asked to trade my SHA miners over to ZenHashlets (and pay the $1 difference myself) because the only reason I bought them originally was Nicehashes payout. I originally was going to stick it out but a ZenHashlet seems like a better option, really.

GAW is a business, they are out to make money first. I, personally, find that they've treated me well as a customer for the most part which is why I defend them. If they are a scam, I guess we'll see, but as of now I don't have anything negative to say about them.

I honestly hope everything works out for you and I mean it. I swore by them when I purchased my miners and was a return customer, I just feel later on in the game things started changing, promises were not kept (I have stated some of them here) etc. It really got to me when someone on this forum posted that Eric was posting for Josh, Josh +Eric lied about mining on 3 pools and the pool owners said they were not... then they banned the pool owners on their forum, 1 miner I purchased came to me used and many other things.
Anyways have fun Smiley I need to get some work done here because my team is slacking off after lunch Smiley
sr. member
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CEO FlawMiners TM®
Guys, stop being idiots.

Josh has said multiple times they are mining on their own private pools. They are then paying out to their owners based on public pools. Different hashlets cost differently to get it.

And yes, I agree its fine to shut down Nicehash until they figure out a solution to gaming the system. That's not how their service works so they immediately posted an announcement saying they are fixing it.

Trolls be trollin. Guess that's what you do jobless surrounded by block erupters Sad


Says they guy who spent 3 hours hooking up a Fury.. You need to get your head out of your a$$ dude.

Yeah man, thanks for lookin through my history to find dirt on me Cheesy Was my first machine and one of my partitions has an error that took me a while to figure out originally.

Thanks though again.


Zdaz, don't give this guy the time of day. Him and a few other of his accounts MemCID/Flexhash/CEO are all troll accounts. Most of us just ignore his rants.

You're just as much a troll as "any" of us. You're so pro GAW it seems like you're dating Josh or something.
Sorry if you think I am a troll, I just question GAW just as much as the other guy and there are way too many scams out there and GAW has SCAM written all over it.
We've heard lies upon lies from these guys.

LMAO I can see their posts when you quote them.. Wish I would be able to ignore quotes 2.
Anyway I think I have asked legit questions and all these ignored people do is make personal attacks.
Now they have double pay or triple pay problems.
Like 3 pool owners went to hashtsalk and are not allowed there anymore plus old forum was supposed to transfer all posts to new forum "Not Found
You seem to have stumbled upon a page that does not exist. Return to the home page." Why do this? What do we have to hide? Search button went POOF, no more..
My ignored trolls if you are not part of GAWSCAM you should be asking these questions and the many other questions RESPECTED COMMUNITY MEMBERS have asked.
KEEP UP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS maybe a few will laugh with you but "He who laughs last, laughs longest"
newbie
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Guys, stop being idiots.

Josh has said multiple times they are mining on their own private pools. They are then paying out to their owners based on public pools. Different hashlets cost differently to get it.

And yes, I agree its fine to shut down Nicehash until they figure out a solution to gaming the system. That's not how their service works so they immediately posted an announcement saying they are fixing it.

Trolls be trollin. Guess that's what you do jobless surrounded by block erupters Sad


Says they guy who spent 3 hours hooking up a Fury.. You need to get your head out of your a$$ dude.

Yeah man, thanks for lookin through my history to find dirt on me Cheesy Was my first machine and one of my partitions has an error that took me a while to figure out originally.

Thanks though again.

No problem.
Now let me ask you a question, one that I can not understand, why would I mine on zenpool and payout what nicehash is paying out?
Also what happened on nicehash is not a flaw for nicehash because this is how nicehash works.

EDIT: Nice pics btw Smiley.

Thanks for the pic comment Smiley Fun side gig until I get to an area that I can do it full-time lol.

I totally understand its not a flaw on Nicehashes end (that's actually where my Fury mines all day), I just don't think GAW thought about others gaming rental sites (like Nashhash) in order to turn a higher profit with Hashlets over a long period of time.

I don't believe that it effected them immediately but, say, a year down the road if it had continued to allow it and they were losing money long term on the SHA hashlets then it wouldn't be a smart business venture for them to even offer it. So might as well nip it in the butt quickly.

That said, I've asked to trade my SHA miners over to ZenHashlets (and pay the $1 difference myself) because the only reason I bought them originally was Nicehashes payout. I originally was going to stick it out but a ZenHashlet seems like a better option, really.

GAW is a business, they are out to make money first. I, personally, find that they've treated me well as a customer for the most part which is why I defend them. If they are a scam, I guess we'll see, but as of now I don't have anything negative to say about them.
sr. member
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 LOL I was right!  Grin

Just look at the timing of my last post and the one that appeared below it:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gaw-zencloud-zenpool-hashlet-does-it-really-exist-always-make-money-720844

The pattern repeats. So obvious...
sr. member
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Merit: 251

Yeah man, thanks for lookin through my history to find dirt on me Cheesy Was my first machine and one of my partitions has an error that took me a while to figure out originally.

Thanks though again.
Don't even waste time on this idiot.
If you start talking with him he'll just ignore you and switch to his memcid sockpuppet to ask the same things again. Let him drown in his own stupidity.
sr. member
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Guys, stop being idiots.

Josh has said multiple times they are mining on their own private pools. They are then paying out to their owners based on public pools. Different hashlets cost differently to get it.

And yes, I agree its fine to shut down Nicehash until they figure out a solution to gaming the system. That's not how their service works so they immediately posted an announcement saying they are fixing it.

Trolls be trollin. Guess that's what you do jobless surrounded by block erupters Sad


Says they guy who spent 3 hours hooking up a Fury.. You need to get your head out of your a$$ dude.

Yeah man, thanks for lookin through my history to find dirt on me Cheesy Was my first machine and one of my partitions has an error that took me a while to figure out originally.

Thanks though again.

Zdaz, don't give this guy the time of day. Him and a few other of his accounts MemCID/Flexhash/CEO are all troll accounts. Most of us just ignore his rants.
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